Smiling River

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lol you want to play a toddler? Kinky. Anyway, comparing Miqo'te gestation period to cats is much like comparing Hyur gestation period to monkeys. Yes, technically they have a common ancestor, perhaps, if we can assume that earthly evolution takes place in Eorzea, but they are not 'cats' just biologically related to them, just as we are to monkeys. (I used monkey as a word for both 'monkeys' and 'apes', the English language makes a distinction between the two, Russian and a few others does not- and for the purpose of this, there really is no point in drawing that line between the primates.) So, that said- Aysun had a good point about this last night, which was that generally in biology the larger the animal the longer the gestation period is. That would mean Miqo'te are just shy of 9 months, maybe 8.

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Welcome to the RP community ova' here

(Totally going to make it )

(I /might/ not be able to make it due to my issue logging into the game, which I hope will be resolved by then. In which case we will post-pone it to the following Thursday. If that's alright with you.)

I'm going to tag Nel for my second pick.

If those NMs /are/ part of the plot though, wouldn't it make sense that we find something out, since we are in essence killing the Goblins that are related to this story, as you said. Although this would be outside of your OOC planning, if we happened to come upon it through IC means with no OOC spoilers/metagaming, IC'ly we'd find w/e it is ahead of your planned event... which can also spin off into interesting RP. Your event will need to be altered, but that's world-RP for you. Otherwise it seems you OOC'ly are keeping the event just for the sake of it, even though IC'ly things would happen differently. Doesn't matter to me, but I was just going by IC, and it would suck if we hit some OOC boundaries in the process just because it was unplanned.

I believe I've sent you an IC PM regarding Elza. Is she out of commission until much later or... what? She made a promise that I was looking forward to her keeping. Also, we are taking on Haughtpox Bloatbelly NMs because Mtoto notified Oskar that she suspects Goblins behind the attack on the Mavanix house, and said that if they escaped to Coerthas, they would be going through the Shroud. At the moment Everwatch is notified that these goblins near Treaspeak may know something about that.

Well, I think the point is to provide a list where the RP is active, or somewhat active. Hence the 'hotspot' in the title. Not a list of places that are suitable for RP, potentially. I am not around Limsa often, but do those places get used regularly? EDIT: I should also add Hyrstmill as a candidate out of left field. With the hamlet defense starting up, I know for a fact that Everwatch, and several others will be stationed there.

Gridania - Nophica's Altar (Outside the Stillglade Fane, aka CNJ guild) This spot is not used too often but worth checking if you are looking for RP in Gridania. I'd say most often used for one on one RP, as well as limited group RP such as meditations. Everwatch HQ - Adder's Nest, second floor. We RP the second floor as a sort of instance, since there is no LS housing in-game. Our HQ is open to anyone though so any RPers are free to roam in and interact with us. Typically we RP in /say and /em for that reason.

Welcome to the community~!

During our LS leaders meeting, all agreed that the way linkshells are categorized needs to be broken down into, for a lack of a better example, "Yellow Pages" style linkshell listing. Each Linkshell will stand on it's own, not put into any specific category, and will offer as much information in as little a space as possible. This means bullet points, to further specify details about the LS aside from what you already see up there. However, what do we specify? We would like to ask you, a perspective member, someone who is browsing for a Linkshell, to tell us! What type of questions do you have about a linkshell, that you do not see answered currently? Give us question prompts, and we will consider adding bullet point(s) to address your questions, because chances are you're not the only one who has that same question! Others, such as members of existing linkshells, who wish to join a second, third, etc, Linkshell- what would you like to ask? Members of Linkshells, what do you wish you had known beforehand? Be sure identify yourself as one of the above three, or something else. It'd help to know from which direction the questions are coming from. Thanks~

Welcome back into the fold~

I was under the impression that it wasn't to be posted up, but kept as a back up in case... well this happens. I'll get on it, but should I try to isolate the part where we discussed this or post the entire thing? It will be up on Sunday for sure, and maybe earlier if I have spare time, which I will try to make due to the sensitive nature of this post. Going to read the replies now and then maybe post something else... we'll see. lol EDIT: Meh, as I saw before, they really don't know IC from OOC, and have a tendancy to think they have a copy right on certain ideas and plots that have been around, not only in the past but this game specifically for a lot longer than they have been playing. The monarchy idea? That's me, not Edricane. I've been around since beta, and had that idea on the backburner for a lot longer than that. I can understand your surprise, Magistra peeps, since Oskar doesn't go around talking with strangers about these plans, as I regard the setting differently than Nana-something (sorry I forget the leader's name). When we RPed that one time, he basically told Oskar /everything/, the fact that he was in fact Garlean, and he wanted to make an Empire, and then how he didn't want to make an Empire... the whole thing was very very confusing and while I at first thought this would be fun- as I do not regard any idea as original and welcomed 'competition' in that regard, at the end I concluded that I would not be RPing with him and possibly the group anyway, as it would be too frustrating, because of different RP styles/views of the setting. I just kind of went OOC and /didn't/ have Oskar take him out for a long walk in the rain, into a cave, where a Duskwight would be the only one leaving it... because you know, I was super-scared of his army stationed in Thanalan, of Eorzeans /and/ Vanadelians. :approve: I guess what I mean to say is, while it would be nice for the RPC to be a hub for every RPer... I am personally not going to suffer either way, since I wouldn't really RP with them (as a linkshell, not individuals) regardless of their membership in the RPC.

I am actually able to record voice communication over skype which I think will be helpful given that otherwise you cannot really keep a record of what was /said/ in skype. Let me know if that will be needed at all. Regular skype name: MasonFFXIV Recording skype name: Identitycrisispodcast

We will not be able to meet up in-game due to a patch. I suggest mumble/vent/skype. Anything with a chat/voice server should be fine. Otherwise we'll have to re-schedule.

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Isaac you are creating a strawman argument when you say that a group flying solo should be shunned, because no one made that case. I made a point against uniting everyone under a single Free Company, simply because of the OOC reason that we all self-identify ourselves as Role-Players in this game. I never made a case for solo groups. What I have said though, is that I aim to unify ICâly. I am not apposed to multiple Linkshells sharing a Free company, it just has to make sense ICâly. If a linkshell is a bunch of Imperials who aim to help the Empire, would they still be in this company? You speak of uniting people as if every character has the same goal. Some want to fight, others want to just live on without much care, while others prepare for post-war conditions⦠there are many possibilities there, and uniting everyone not only doesnât make sense ICâly it also limits future RP linkshells. For example we have no Imperial LS atm, but in the future if all Linkshells unite under one Free Company, there may never be one, if you define the members of that FC as your RP community. It would be pretty implausible for them to join and remain with some other groups. And we are not even sure how the FCs will work so itâs hard to say how much anyone will have to interact with one another, but if there are multiple FCs, why would one company join the same FC that has their opposition? Itâs not like SE intends to imply that all people of Eorzea must join one FC to unite everyone under one flag⦠So the whole unite or die logic doesnât quite work⦠it matters how you unite, why, with whom etc⦠because the fact that there can be a number of GCs/FCs indicates that the setting of the game isnât as drastic, else there would theoretically be only one GC, and so on. You use the words âeveryoneâ and âcommunityâs best interestâ in your OOC reply to this issue there⦠but Iâve not yet any poll up with significant number of voters to indicate communityâs desire for any of this. Nor do I think popular opinion is automatically the right opinion. Even if 99% vote for something, it can still be wrong. Much like Momo, it seems you reply on the support of the âcommunityâ behind you to cushion your point of view. Guess what? I am part of the community to. I feel like your entire post marginalizes those who are not on the same page with the premise of some of the things âin the name of the communityâ that have been said here. That will only divide the RP community further, if you make people with different views feel like outsiders. And yeah, mere existence of certain RP does rub me the wrong way at times. I know a number of people donât mind, but I need for it to be at a certain quality (from my point of view) for me to enjoy it. Itâs like watching a movie where you can see the awkward dialogue and the predictable plots and so on versus a movie which completely drags you in and hours fly by without you noticing. Thatâs one way I can describe how I feel about other styles of RP vs one I am comfortable with. But then, I am pretty satisfied with the RPC framing the picture, instead of being used as a brush. We can agree on basic changes, but beyond that, I think that as a community of role-players, itâs best to not try to regulate to a degree which people here propose. Much like Eva, I feel that Iâve nothing left to add, as this sort of discussion seems to be pushing out decent. I just hope you guys donât take that dive, of putting a fence around whatever you think the community represents and pushing people out because they donât agree. Itâs arguably one of the reasons the RPC took a plunge some time in the past, and while specific points of arguments have changed, that ideology seems to be creeping up again, so Iâll just excuse myself and do whatever I think would work instead.

Welcome to the community! The linkshell tab up there will guide you to a directory from which you can check some groups! There is also an OOC pearl for all RPers on the server.

Hm, well this points out a lot of issues that you are seeing as a player, yet proposes no solutions. Momo, I am sorry but I just don't see things the way you do, and it irks me that you speak on behalf of some 'group', or at least it sounds that way. Who is "we"? Do not attempt to unify all into one, because not everyone shares your point of view. Sorry but it's really annoying to me when people speak on behalf of the community. Not everyone agrees that the community is broken. Not everyone agrees that the community is broken in the ways you think it's broken. Not everyone wants what you want. Everyone is their own person... so speak for yourself, not the community. It may be a lot difficult to defend your views when you do not assume they are shared by everyone. Aside from that, honestly if we want to better the community beyond just the clean up/reorganization we need to define what "better" is... what would be an ideal, and only then rally and march toward it. Otherwise even if we put in effort, we'll still be disjointed as a community since we're going 10 different ways. As for all linkshells joining one Free Company... on what basis would this be? Simply all RP groups? So Knights and thieves in the same one? Sorry if it seems like I am trying to shoot holes through it. It's true, by the way, I am. This is a way to find if this stuff would really fly, though. Anyway, IC it doesn't make sense it seems to me... OOC it can cause tension to have people who clearly do not agree on basic RP playstyle somehow under the same roof. I would rather work from IC on. If my LS bonds closely enough with others, and if OOC'ly we have similar RP styles, then we can form a Free Company together. Makes sense to me, instead of metagaming and tossing everyone together just for the sake of what? I'd rather not be frustrated in-game. I am sure folks on all sides can agree on that.

I think the re-haul of the RPC has brought in more traffic though, since more people actually post.

I agree completely that a clean up is in order. Dissolving the brackets of RP based on weight (hehe) would also be a quick-fix to all of the Linkshells appearing to be "Heavy." I actually am/was under the impression that most RPers are not into heavy RP, but somewhere in the 'moderate' range, so I am a llittle surprised that we have so many heavy RP Linkshells. Not to say that they do not 'belong' or something silly like that, since perhaps the few moderate LSs may be simply larger, but again - we face the problem of self-evaluation. I know some people who take their RP seriously and would call themselves heavy RPers, who I do not consider as such. It's difficult to represent these things on an unbiased 'standard'. So yeah, kind of supports the previous point about simply getting rid of the brackets and letting each LS stand on their own. Momo and Mtoto (you guys and your funny names) have both now mentioned an OOC LS leaders meet (working on an IC one, just give it time, have to finish some of the current story arcs first). Especially with regards to Momo's previous point about the RPC being the place to connect for RPers rather than enforce rules upon the community - it sounds like a case being made (again) for the Leader's council here on the boards. Threads about it may have been nuked or moved to where I couldn't find them, the latest started by Eva, wherein several RPers wished to bring back the council - which is a forum only for leaders of linkshells on these boards (perhaps with viewing privileges for everyone) that can be used to start organizing cross-LS RP and so on OOC'ly. This has been discussed and obviously it didn't go through... I am happy to try again now, but I just wanted you guys to be aware of that... since it seems like in both cases same things are being asked for. If worst comes to worst I have no problem picking one of our LS forums at random to host such a section >.> But then again, I want to just do it IC'ly first and foremost so I may not even really need it as much. Momo, I think you're right though on getting the opinions of the quiet folks that we never hear from, especially leaders of the community. Last night I asked over the OOC pearl if people were psyched to reply to this as much as I was, no one seemed to share the enthusiasm. I don't think many people care for these discussions unfortunately >.> EDIT: Could not find Eva's thread, but here is a poll that was a byproduct of it LINK

You as in whoever agrees with that idea. I think it's horrible. If anyone wants to challenge me on that- let's discuss, but it seems that it was brought up twice, and Mtoto doesn't support it, not sure about MoMo... so I am confused why it's up there at this point... just for the sake of tossing it the worst idea out there? Let's talk about ideas we actually support, new ideas. And I agree, there are other options, which, as I said, something like alliances between shells has already been in the works for quite some time. So what new ideas does everyone have in regard to this? And I get that that one can be new to people who haven't been doing it, as well. But like Mtoto said in her post, a lot of what she said has already been happening as is. Do we add a cap on Linkshells which are advertised here? It would seem unfair as well. Of course actually preventing people from starting RP Linkshells is impossible. So with regards to Linkshells, and keeping more people on one... what /can/ be done? Cleaning up the Guild Hall so that only active Linkshells are listed would be cool. Reaching out to some of those unheard of shells to poke around and see what's up is also good. That simply will eliminate those who aren't adding or subtracting to the equasion. It's not like if a RPer decided to join an inactive group, and got no response, that they will not join any active LS. No, they will try another time, with an active LS likely... So while clean up is nice, it's just that, clean up. Doesn't solve anything really. I liked Mtoto's idea of basically a bullet point list of 'traits' each LS has. Everwatch [*] Needs more male characters. Pay rate doubled if male.[/list:u] I personally would rather RP with a small group that I agree with in terms of RP style than a large one where people frustrate me. I don't play the game for that, and there is no way I am willing to sacrifice fun/quality of my RP for a bigger shell, just for the sake of putting more people under the same pearl. I've been around, I know what is out there, I've sampled many Linkshells in the past. Not all linkshells will be able to RP on that scale, sad fact. Maybe a handful can enhance RP by linking up IC, but that depends on so many IC factors. If your LS is amazing, has events often, and really really nice members, but it's an assassin group, or a collection of thieves... there is no way that I'd be able to RP with them. I am not saying that there should be no discussion, I am saying that I think a lot of what I have read just seems disagreeable to me. While the community may be small, I find that I don't have enough time in the day to RP, and there are plenty of IC stuff to do... so I guess I am not feeling the pain.