New to roleplaying on ffxiv

[Berrod Armstrong]

My advice? Play as you like. The moment you start asking a 'community' of people to start deciding what you play is the moment you place your fun into someone else's hands.

 

You wanna play a norse goddess who has to start over as a mortal on Hydaelyn? Go for it! No, I mean it, go for it. The events prior to her banishment -- is that a word? -- are apart from the lore of the world you are going to be playing her in, so it's not really getting in the way of anything unless she's going to be prancing around declaring what she is and where she's from. 

 

It's actually an interesting angle, I'm personally interested in seeing what you do with it; how you illustrate her struggles, her mental state, and how she copes, learns, grows and forms relationships in this 'new world'. The ONLY advice I'd give you on the finger-wagging side is just...don't run around screaming it out to everyone. That'll get really bad, really fast. 

 

Even some the loremongers have their bit of lorebendery and lorebreakery going on, so in the end the only person in a proper position to judge, is you! In addition, so long as her origins remain under wraps and your character behaves like a denizen of Eorzea (or at least TRIES)...there's nothing different between roleplaying with her and roleplaying with some other fresh-faced, aethersick fresh-off-the-boat yahoo.

 

What you have done for your concept isn't something I'd do myself...I really like getting deep into the lore of a world and establishing a backstory within it. However! I wouldn't discourage you from trying that -- EVEN if it's just to learn from it. Have fun with it, yet understand that it is unusual and will require quite a bit of discretion to pull off. If you can't pull it off, it's not the end of the world; you can rewrite and try again. 

 

Such is the nature of roleplaying and learning.

 

...and if you are a troll? Good one, lol.

 

Edit: My post was with regard to the backstory only, I didn't address the whitemagery.

[Kage]

Or if Metroid suddenly appear and he started hunting bad guys?

He is not a Metroid! /cry

 

The thing is, if you did RP with this backstory in mind it won't really do anything for the character. Her entire interactions with people will be them trying to get her put as insane, left in a refugee camp to rot, etc.

 

I mean, I've seen some super lore-bent backstories. One in particular that I know people in the RPC have a very negative view of way back when. It had -some- basis in lore with nothing that said it CANNOT be done but it was a big bend/stretch. In game they were given flack for it OOCly and many ICly acted appropriately when the story was revealed. They wanted the character killed, committed to an asylum etc. People were revolted.

[ValkyrieRangris]

My advice? Play as you like. The moment you start asking a 'community' of people to start deciding what you play is the moment you place your fun into someone else's hands.

 

You wanna play a norse goddess who has to start over as a mortal on Hydaelyn? Go for it! No, I mean it, go for it. The events prior to her banishment -- is that a word? -- are apart from the lore of the world you are going to be playing her in, so it's not really getting in the way of anything unless she's going to be prancing around declaring what she is and where she's from. 

 

It's actually an interesting angle, I'm personally interested in seeing what you do with it; how you illustrate her struggles, her mental state, and how she copes, learns, grows and forms relationships in this 'new world'. The ONLY advice I'd give you on the finger-wagging side is just...don't run around screaming it out to everyone. That'll get really bad, really fast. 

 

Even some the loremongers have their bit of lorebendery and lorebreakery going on, so in the end the only person in a proper position to judge, is you! In addition, so long as her origins remain under wraps and your character behaves like a denizen of Eorzea (or at least TRIES)...there's nothing different between roleplaying with her and roleplaying with some other fresh-faced, aethersick fresh-off-the-boat yahoo.

 

What you have done for your concept isn't something I'd do myself...I really like getting deep into the lore of a world and establishing a backstory within it. However! I wouldn't discourage you from trying that -- EVEN if it's just to learn from it. Have fun with it, yet understand that it is unusual and will require quite a bit of discretion to pull off. If you can't pull it off, it's not the end of the world; you can rewrite and try again. 

 

Such is the nature of roleplaying and learning.

 

...and if you are a troll? Good one, lol.

 

Edit: My post was with regard to the backstory only, I didn't address the whitemagery.

Finally someone who gets it!

 

I was not going to go running around saying I am a goddess from another planet, that is silly. The point of my character was to feel like a fresh start, because it is something new to me I have never roleplayed here so everything is new. I like to make characters I relate to I can not relate to something that I have not spent much time being around. Plus I really wanted to develop my character a lot, for  her to be blank to the world. But I am kind of baffled that a lot of the people posting on this thread are seeing it as a personal attack or something. Kind of off putting to be honest.

[Warren Castille]

But I am kind of baffled that a lot of the people posting on this thread are seeing it as a personal attack or something. Kind of off putting to be honest.

 

We have some defensive sorts here. Don't let it bug you.

[ArmachiA]

No one is seeing it as a personal attack, we're discussing it's lore validity and how much people would want to interact with said person.

 

In all honesty, is there a reason why you can't go with a girl who has Amnesia? Or, if that's too normal for you, someone who was stuck in the void for a thousand years from Ampador and knows nothing about the new world? Or someone from Doma who knows nothing about Eorzea? Why a God? Why an EARTHEN God? You'd get the same results with a more lore compliant character.

[ValkyrieRangris]

But I am kind of baffled that a lot of the people posting on this thread are seeing it as a personal attack or something. Kind of off putting to be honest.

 

We have some defensive sorts here. Don't let it bug you.

Nah its not just find it odd. I do not think I said anything rude in the thread?

[ArmachiA]

I don't think anyone has said anything rude. You asked for advice and it was given.

[Kage]

As long as you are not afraid of the... well some negativity that may happen once it comes up (and it may come up very early or it may come up late), I think it all depends on who you are roleplaying with and how you deal with it.

 

it's my experience that some characters are very chatty and something that is supposed to be a secret will blow out into the Quicksand open in a fortnight. Hell, you may be the talk of Quicksand in the morning. How would you respond? Will you take the (possibly inevitable) ooc criticisms?

 

The person I mentioned had at one point very much considered completely retconning the character etc. I don't know if they decided to or not but I've seen them sort of start to really react to the negativity surrounding their character's backstory.

[Imo]

OP... Judging from your reactions, you're not really here for advice. You're here for butt-pats and people telling you that your character concept is totally cool, aren't you? You have a knee-jerk defensive reaction to everyone who doesn't agree with that.

 

Technically you can play anything you want - if other players don't like it, they can choose not to RP with you. But your character concept is so lore-breaking that almost all decent roleplayers will choose not to RP with you as soon as they learn of it.

 

Roleplaying is all about being creative, but limitations encourage creativity, to an extent. Taking a character who's unfitting to the game world and putting them into the setting anyway is not creative, it's lazy. You can totally play a character who has an interesting, rich backstory, and who's not just a generic commoner, while staying within the setting. You can play a character who's new to it too - just play a foreigner from far away, or someone who lost her memory. There are many ways to create the character you want without taking the lore and breaking it in half.

[Warren Castille]

But I am kind of baffled that a lot of the people posting on this thread are seeing it as a personal attack or something. Kind of off putting to be honest.

 

We have some defensive sorts here. Don't let it bug you.

Nah its not just find it odd. I do not think I said anything rude in the thread?

 

I can't begin to explain that. I know I get my dander up when people insult Batman. We've all got our triggers.

 

If you're intent on using the backstory as something that doesn't come up often, you might want to restructure your wiki a little? Maybe spoiler the first bit so it doesn't immediately turn anyone off, then embellish a little more on your history in Eorzea. She appeared in Western Thanalan? Did she stumble out of the desert knowing nothing of the world? What was her reaction to reaching Ul'dah? That sort of stuff, it'll make her a little more accessible for folks trying to invest themselves in you.

 

If she showed up to a public place and started asking about the history of the city, you'd find plenty of folks willing to show her around.

[Berrod Armstrong]

But I am kind of baffled that a lot of the people posting on this thread are seeing it as a personal attack or something. Kind of off putting to be honest.

 

We have some defensive sorts here. Don't let it bug you.

Nah its not just find it odd. I do not think I said anything rude in the thread?

 

I can't begin to explain that. I know I get my dander up when people insult Batman. We've all got our triggers.

 

If you're intent on using the backstory as something that doesn't come up often, you might want to restructure your wiki a little? Maybe spoiler the first bit so it doesn't immediately turn anyone off, then embellish a little more on your history in Eorzea. She appeared in Western Thanalan? Did she stumble out of the desert knowing nothing of the world? What was her reaction to reaching Ul'dah? That sort of stuff, it'll make her a little more accessible for folks trying to invest themselves in you.

 

If she showed up to a public place and started asking about the history of the city, you'd find plenty of folks willing to show her around.

That can work! Or perhaps make her backstory something privately documented. I've actually been tempted to do that with my own character a few times, even though his back story fits in with the world's lore. In the end, the choice is yours! Either way, I suppose I forgot to tell you welcome.

 

Welcome! I'm sure you'll work out whatever kinks you need sorted out in good time for us to catch you around sometime. The game is fun, the RP is -- good lord, it's fantastic. 

 

I'm sure some of the more...short responders in the thread mean well, but with everything laid out before you, the choice is still yours in the end.

[ValkyrieRangris]

No one is seeing it as a personal attack, we're discussing it's lore validity and how much people would want to interact with said person.

 

In all honesty, is there a reason why you can't go with a girl who has Amnesia? Or, if that's too normal for you, someone who was stuck in the void for a thousand years from Ampador and knows nothing about the new world? Or someone from Doma who knows nothing about Eorzea? Why a God? Why an EARTHEN God? You'd get the same results from a more lore compliant light.

I have been reading too much Ovid lately and it has caused me into a binge of mythology lol. I really enjoy horror feels to roleplays that is why I chose such an off character. I thought of making a character with Schizophrenia but I could not really think of an everyday person role that I enjoy playing with that. Maybe I will come up with one. Its made me feel very off put from using this character if it offends so many people though.

[Imo]

Please don't give your character a mental disorder. Unless you research it really well, it tends not to go well. And even when you do, it still can.

[ValkyrieRangris]

Please don't give your character a mental disorder. Unless you research it really well, it tends not to go well. And even when you do, it still can.

Is there a list of things that are acceptable? Not being rude just very curious. I did not see any rules besides the ones posted on the sticky for guides. Please post I am actually curious.

[Warren Castille]

I think that as long as nobody knows your history and you don't tell anyone there's no harm from this. If it's merely a springboard for you to jump into a world you don't know much about OOCly and ICly, there's nothing wrong with it. As long as you don't go Super Saiyan Valkyrie-Mode on everyone when it's convenient, there's no trouble. As long as borrowing the character is solely for the player's comfort and will have no bearing on the RP itself, well... No one's got any real reason to condemn it. It never comes up. It means nothing, but it makes the player more comfortable.

 

Rock on.

[ArmachiA]

If you like horror in your rp, having your character being trapped in the void for a while would do the same thing. We know it's possible to be trapped - from World of Darkness and the void is... basically a limbo. "Demons" (Called voidsent) live there, trying to escape to our world because they want to feed on our Aether. They are scary, very scary and your character would have had to have found away to escape - one they did only to realize quite a lot of time has passed. Once she comes out, she would have to relearn how to live and function in this new society.

 

It could have made her somewhat off, weird...

 

That's just an idea though, I'm not exactly sure how being trapped in the void works really (Does it age you or would you need to be put in a sort of Stasis?)

 

Warren is right though, if it's never brought up it doesn't much matter, though I'm not sure why you asked for advice about it, then...

[Berrod Armstrong]

I see a lot of the sentiment that 'that backstory doesn't add anything to your character'. While I disagree with that for my own reasons, even if it didn't add anything...then what's the difference! May as well if it adds something to your enjoyment, right? As Warren said, if nobody knows about the backstory IC and you're playing it for your own fun...you may as well!

 

Concepts like these, while frowned upon generally -- well forget that, if YOU enjoy it, and if you can pull it off in a way that doesn't smash a hole into other people's enjoyment (and by that I don't mean 'I don't like your idea'. It has to be more profound than that)...go for it. 

 

Also, if you develop an interest in the lore during your time roleplaying and need anything at all explained, there are a few good heads on here who will be more than willing to explain the why, how, and goodness-gracious-me of things.

[Branson Thorne]

Since I'm decently new to RP and FFXIV in general, along with not really having any friends on this forum yet, I wont to give some unbiased advice on this. So bear with me if you will

 

It is 100% okay if you want to re-write the lore for your character. If you want your character to be the love child between Hercules and Obama, it's certainly your right to do so. You paid your money for the game, same as any of us. That gives you the right to do what you want.

 

However......

 

As you well have noticed, people here do not support that style of RP. Yes, you can RP that if you want regardless. But it will be a lonely road you'll walk yourself./ By having your character be this lore bending fallen goddess type person, you completely shatter the lore and immersion for everyone else around you. Therefore, nobody will really want to associate with your character.

 

So for your own sake and not because "oh hey this is our game you go away" it really isn't what you are looking for. I hope there's no hard feelings, just don't want you to invest time into something and not be happy with it.

[Imo]

Please don't give your character a mental disorder. Unless you research it really well, it tends not to go well. And even when you do, it still can.

Is there a list of things that are acceptable? Not being rude just very curious. I did not see any rules besides the ones posted on the sticky for guides. Please post I am actually curious.

 

There's no list, because most things are not hard and fast rules. They depend on your ability to pull them off. And from my experience, most people can't pull off a mental disorder they don't know really well. Especially schizophrenia and multiple personality syndrome.

[g0ne]

I don't normally post on threads that consist of big debates and discussions like this, but erm, I'll give you my two gil.

 

You can RP whatever you want, what makes you happy, but please know that what makes you happy might not make everyone else feel the same way. Keep your character's story hidden and no one will have any issues. Advertise it and the characters your character will interact with will most definitely have issues. The RL player may be fine, but in an RP community where your character will flesh out by interacting with other characters, this could pose a problem. Like, I wouldn't mind anything (I believe in the SMILE), but I know that Eleni would.

 

Furthermore, if you will keep your character's story hidden, then technically won't your character be normal/ an everyday person like the others if she refrains from revealing her powers and stuff. Then the special snowflake element is eliminated altogether if only your character herself is aware of all this.

 

So, erm. Yeah.

[ValkyrieRangris]

Please don't give your character a mental disorder. Unless you research it really well, it tends not to go well. And even when you do, it still can.

Is there a list of things that are acceptable? Not being rude just very curious. I did not see any rules besides the ones posted on the sticky for guides. Please post I am actually curious.

 

There's no list, because most things are not hard and fast rules. They depend on your ability to pull them off. And from my experience, most people can't pull off a mental disorder they don't know really well. Especially schizophrenia and multiple personality syndrome.

Please post  more stuff like this so I can figure out what not to do.

[Spethah]

I think that as long as nobody knows your history and you don't tell anyone there's no harm from this. 

 

This on so many levels.

 

The idea of throwing an character that knows nothing into the world from another sounds far-fetched but it's not non-plausable. Do what you want, just be careful with how and who you tell such a backstory to. A lot of people don't like the idea of it simply because it doesn't abide to lore in any way, but that doesn't mean everyone doesn't like it. You'll get bad reception every now and then, but who doesn't?

 

What matters the most if your enjoyment factor. Do you enjoy this kind of character? Do you enjoy roleplaying it and seeing what happens to them in this brand new world? If the answer is yes, what is stopping you from rolling it? People not liking it? Look at what Warren said up there. Yes up there.

 

There is no harm in it. I personally don't like the idea just because I've see way too many "hyper-snowflakes" in my decade of roleplay but that doesn't mean I won't roleplay with you. 

 

[Warren Castille]

Please don't give your character a mental disorder. Unless you research it really well, it tends not to go well. And even when you do, it still can.

Is there a list of things that are acceptable? Not being rude just very curious. I did not see any rules besides the ones posted on the sticky for guides. Please post I am actually curious.

 

There's no list, because most things are not hard and fast rules. They depend on your ability to pull them off. And from my experience, most people can't pull off a mental disorder they don't know really well. Especially schizophrenia and multiple personality syndrome.

Please post  more stuff like this so I can figure out what not to do.

 

Man, I thought we were getting somewhere but this response in particular sets off my internal alarm again.

 

GUYS I THINK WE'RE BEING TESTED. AND WE'RE EITHER PASSING SPECTACULARLY OR FAILING SPECTACULARLY. At least we're spectacular.

[Berrod Armstrong]

I'll RP with you. 

 

I'm saying that now because I would not want my first experience to be general unwelcome, even if I'm doing something that I think is fun that is generally frowned upon. I gave you a couple pointers as to how to not make ripples in the point with it.

 

I want you to feel welcome, I want you to try, and see for yourself if it works, or if it doesn't work -- if you enjoy it, or if you don't, or if you can pull it off or if you can't.

 

I want you to see as well, that even through keeping something like that secret it CAN make a difference for you, because you get to experience your character's internal struggles and learn/develop more about her through them. 

 

I want you to have fun, I want you to grow. 

 

I'd like to think that's what this place is about.

 

Edit: If we're being trolled, I'm good with taking the bait. You know, juuust in case.

[ArmachiA]

I'm still leaning toward troll, but polite troll.