Body-Switching! [Rules Added]

[Verad]

More seriously, the following:

 

-It's a pretty well-trod concept at this point. It would be really easy to make a Freaky-Friday style plot that lasts for a day or so for the lulz or whatever the youth are calling it these days, but it will be largely superficial RP unless you can make the hook somewhat more interesting and give it some longevity.

 

-If you do it, your characters' efforts to fix the problem should not be the focus. Give that to the players who choose to join. Presume you're going to be spending more time managing the idea than getting to RP. If you insist on being the character who fixes everything, ask yourself why.

 

-Reed is 100% correct. People will escalate the event and do stuff like grope the body the participants find themselves in. It's an expected component of this kind of story (the old joke about the character finding him/herself in a new body and checking their junk to confirm the truth of it, to their horror and our amusement). You will need to establish OOC boundaries on what is and isn't acceptable behavior or somebody is going to get upset.

 

-Set an upper limit on how many people you want to join, and get assistance from other people whose chief interest is in managing the plot. If you have limited experience managing a plot, you will quickly find it escalates beyond your ability to run it alone if you don't.

[Verad]

Guys, if you don't want to participate in it - then don't participate it. But don't put circle jerk comments and give OP a hard time.

 

Positivity was not listed as a requirement for posting in the thread.

 

While making childish snarking comment is required? 

 

1. Respect: "Be Excellent to Each Other." Please respect all fellow posters and role-players on these boards. That means no flame wars, no discrimination, no godmoding, no metagaming, no harassment, and no snarky attitudes. Additionally, don't call out individuals or groups by name on the forums for their actions; if you want to discuss the actions without mentioning those performing them, however, that's acceptable. Part of our respect for you is that we will never display ads, use third-party analytics tools, send you unsolicited e-mail, or provide your e-mail address to a third party except as required by law.

 

 

See what I was writing below and then come back to me.

[Coatleque]

[Aldotsk]

Guys, if you don't want to participate in it - then don't participate it. But don't put circle jerk comments and give OP a hard time.

 

Positivity was not listed as a requirement for posting in the thread.

 

While making childish snarking comment is required? 

 

1. Respect: "Be Excellent to Each Other." Please respect all fellow posters and role-players on these boards. That means no flame wars, no discrimination, no godmoding, no metagaming, no harassment, and no snarky attitudes. Additionally, don't call out individuals or groups by name on the forums for their actions; if you want to discuss the actions without mentioning those performing them, however, that's acceptable. Part of our respect for you is that we will never display ads, use third-party analytics tools, send you unsolicited e-mail, or provide your e-mail address to a third party except as required by law.

 

 

See what I was writing below and then come back to me.

 

Yes you wrote that AFTER I posted about mine. But that still doesn't change the fact that aside from your well written suggestions afterwards doesn't really apply to the previous poster's attitudes before mine and yours. It's a violation of the first rule regardless. What Gharen did was wrong.

[Verad]

 

Yes you wrote that AFTER I posted about mine. But that still doesn't change the fact that aside from your well written suggestions afterwards should apply to the previous poster's attitudes. It's a violation of the first rule regardless. What Gharen did was wrong.

 

Previous poster attitudes are informed by the tiredness of the plot and the obvious ease with which the plot could lead into some shady business. Previous poster attitudes are being excellent in trying to kibosh the problem before it comes to light. I commend the previous poster for being excellent.

[SM Nick]

More seriously, the following:

 

-It's a pretty well-trod concept at this point. It would be really easy to make a Freaky-Friday style plot that lasts for a day or so for the lulz or whatever the youth are calling it these days, but it will be largely superficial RP unless you can make the hook somewhat more interesting and give it some longevity.

 

-If you do it, your characters' efforts to fix the problem should not be the focus. Give that to the players who choose to join. Presume you're going to be spending more time managing the idea than getting to RP. If you insist on being the character who fixes everything, ask yourself why.

 

-Reed is 100% correct. People will escalate the event and do stuff like grope the body the participants find themselves in. It's an expected component of this kind of story (the old joke about the character finding him/herself in a new body and checking their junk to confirm the truth of it, to their horror and our amusement). You will need to establish OOC boundaries on what is and isn't acceptable behavior or somebody is going to get upset.

 

-Set an upper limit on how many people you want to join, and get assistance from other people whose chief interest is in managing the plot. If you have limited experience managing a plot, you will quickly find it escalates beyond your ability to run it alone if you don't.

 

Dude I plan to put OOC rules in the OP of the RP thread, be it within spoiler tags or not. The device that switches will be small, like an orb, and stuff like that can be very hard to find in a place like Ul'dah, so it could take a while. There will be a limit to what can happen in terms of content, like there might be groping if only to see if what just happened is true, but if they are not comfortable with it I will add that to the restrictions as well. As for upper limit, I don't know what number of people should it be.

[Faye]

Can I propose something looping back to Fantasia? For April Fool's Day, my FC did a fun little RP event where those of us interested Fantasia'd our character's because they were ICly "cursed" and had to find a way to break it. If you want to avoid all the trouble with role-players concerned about their character's bodies being groped or misused, I think that could be a decent alternative for some light-hearted RP centered around waking up in another body. The basic idea is still there, minus the creepy factor.

[Aaron]

I pictured Natsuru from Kampfer while looking at this thread.

 

I wouldn't particularly mind because both OOC and IC I don't find groping in my nature if by some chance I did wound up in a hot woman's body. It's basically touching yourself (Lord please never put me in Rosie O'Donnell body k thanks)

 

Id probably refuse to use the bathroom or shower though. Because boobs.

[Verad]

More seriously, the following:

 

-It's a pretty well-trod concept at this point. It would be really easy to make a Freaky-Friday style plot that lasts for a day or so for the lulz or whatever the youth are calling it these days, but it will be largely superficial RP unless you can make the hook somewhat more interesting and give it some longevity.

 

-If you do it, your characters' efforts to fix the problem should not be the focus. Give that to the players who choose to join. Presume you're going to be spending more time managing the idea than getting to RP. If you insist on being the character who fixes everything, ask yourself why.

 

-Reed is 100% correct. People will escalate the event and do stuff like grope the body the participants find themselves in. It's an expected component of this kind of story (the old joke about the character finding him/herself in a new body and checking their junk to confirm the truth of it, to their horror and our amusement). You will need to establish OOC boundaries on what is and isn't acceptable behavior or somebody is going to get upset.

 

-Set an upper limit on how many people you want to join, and get assistance from other people whose chief interest is in managing the plot. If you have limited experience managing a plot, you will quickly find it escalates beyond your ability to run it alone if you don't.

 

Dude I plan to put OOC rules in the OP of the RP thread, be it within spoiler tags or not. The device that switches will be small, like an orb, and stuff like that can be very hard to find in a place like Ul'dah, so it could take a while. There will be a limit to what can happen in terms of content, like there might be groping if only to see if what just happened is true, but if they are not comfortable with it I will add that to the restrictions as well. As for upper limit, I don't know what number of people should it be.

 

Where did the device come from, who put it there, who made the device, why would somebody leave that kind of device lying around, and if it wasn't just lying around, what's the agenda of the person leaving it there, such that it serves their interests to have random people switch bodies?

 

Start with an upper limit of ten.

[Aldotsk]

 

Yes you wrote that AFTER I posted about mine. But that still doesn't change the fact that aside from your well written suggestions afterwards should apply to the previous poster's attitudes. It's a violation of the first rule regardless. What Gharen did was wrong.

 

Previous poster attitudes are informed by the tiredness of the plot and the obvious ease with which the plot could lead into some shady business. Previous poster attitudes are being excellent in trying to kibosh the problem before it comes to light. I commend the previous poster for being excellent.

 

I am pretty sure this isn't called "We choose our roleplayers selectively and weed out people who think differently from us." - Because this community is made for people to show civil manners and show friendly tones and try to work it out between players if they have some kind of issues. If you think that kind of attitude is being excellent, then you obviously are just being a sadistic troll and is not really doing any favor for the OP to improve his ideas of events.

[Dravus]

Let's leave the actual moderation to the actual moderators, eh?

 

As an aside, it's really getting tiresome to jump into a thread and see people arguing over whether or not somebody should even comment in the first place. The tone policing is also pretty stale as well.

 

As for the event itself? I tend to favour such things being limited to OOC 'what if' situations rather than anything super serious on an IC level. More often than not, however, this sort of thing just ends up revolving around people not so subtly making a big deal out of having the opposite gender's...uh...'bits' and basing most of their interaction around that.

 

Hence the wariness, I'd imagine.

[Gharen]

There was no hostility involved, and I'm fairly certain I'm allowed warn folks that they're about to walk into a building scheduled for demolition. But that's just me channeling Carnac.

 

Futurama was great, with great comedy. Which followed a script and predefined rules so that it was fit for television. With some of the personalities that we have here? Someone will do something stupid, feelings will get hurt, people will get angry, and so on and so forth.

 

Do with it what you will.

[Verad]

 

 

I am pretty sure this isn't called "We choose our roleplayers selectively and weed out people who think differently from us." - Because this community is made for people to show civil manners and show friendly tones and try to work it out between players if they have some kind of issues. If you think that kind of attitude is being excellent, then you obviously are just being a sadistic troll and is not really doing any favor for the OP to improve his ideas of events.

 

The potential issues have been listed. Other people have recognized them as valid issues, and even the OP has acknowledged that these issues can be a problem and, to his credit, is placing guidelines in his plot to help mitigate them.

 

Are you sure you're defending him the way you think you are?

[SM Nick]

Can I propose something looping back to Fantasia? For April Fool's Day, my FC did a fun little RP event where those of us interested Fantasia'd our character's because they were ICly "cursed" and had to find a way to break it. If you want to avoid all the trouble with role-players concerned about their character's bodies being groped or misused, I think that could be a decent alternative for some light-hearted RP centered around waking up in another body. The basic idea is still there, minus the creepy factor.

Ok but you got to factor in the fact that it costs RL money for a Fantasia, and some of us might not have enough money to get one or two.

I pictured Natsuru from Kampfer while looking at this thread.

 

I wouldn't particularly mind because both OOC and IC I don't find groping in my nature if by some chance I did wound up in a hot woman's body. It's basically touching yourself (Lord please never put me in Rosie O'Donnell body k thanks)

 

Id probably refuse to use the bathroom or shower though. Because boobs.

Aaron you are helping me. Groping in this case is still touching yourself. Even though you are in someone else's body, technically it can still count as your own at the moment until you get back in your own body.

More seriously, the following:

 

-It's a pretty well-trod concept at this point. It would be really easy to make a Freaky-Friday style plot that lasts for a day or so for the lulz or whatever the youth are calling it these days, but it will be largely superficial RP unless you can make the hook somewhat more interesting and give it some longevity.

 

-If you do it, your characters' efforts to fix the problem should not be the focus. Give that to the players who choose to join. Presume you're going to be spending more time managing the idea than getting to RP. If you insist on being the character who fixes everything, ask yourself why.

 

-Reed is 100% correct. People will escalate the event and do stuff like grope the body the participants find themselves in. It's an expected component of this kind of story (the old joke about the character finding him/herself in a new body and checking their junk to confirm the truth of it, to their horror and our amusement). You will need to establish OOC boundaries on what is and isn't acceptable behavior or somebody is going to get upset.

 

-Set an upper limit on how many people you want to join, and get assistance from other people whose chief interest is in managing the plot. If you have limited experience managing a plot, you will quickly find it escalates beyond your ability to run it alone if you don't.

 

Dude I plan to put OOC rules in the OP of the RP thread, be it within spoiler tags or not. The device that switches will be small, like an orb, and stuff like that can be very hard to find in a place like Ul'dah, so it could take a while. There will be a limit to what can happen in terms of content, like there might be groping if only to see if what just happened is true, but if they are not comfortable with it I will add that to the restrictions as well. As for upper limit, I don't know what number of people should it be.

 

Where did the device come from, who put it there, who made the device, why would somebody leave that kind of device lying around, and if it wasn't just lying around, what's the agenda of the person leaving it there, such that it serves their interests to have random people switch bodies?

 

Start with an upper limit of ten.

Ok well the device would be an magical orb left behind by an ancient civilization (probably Allagans), and it would have been buried underground until it was dug up by accident.

[Aaron]

I don't think the question the OP had or whatever he was trying to ask was so serious that it had to derail into a underground battle of political correctness for commenting.

 

Then again, it's hard to read tones over the net so it's probably not as serious as it sounds.

[Verad]

Ok well the device would be an magical orb left behind by an ancient civilization (probably Allagans), and it would have been buried underground until it was dug up by accident.

 

Break it halfway through the plot.

[Faye]

Can I propose something looping back to Fantasia? For April Fool's Day, my FC did a fun little RP event where those of us interested Fantasia'd our character's because they were ICly "cursed" and had to find a way to break it. If you want to avoid all the trouble with role-players concerned about their character's bodies being groped or misused, I think that could be a decent alternative for some light-hearted RP centered around waking up in another body. The basic idea is still there, minus the creepy factor.

Ok but you got to factor in the fact that it costs RL money for a Fantasia, and some of us might not have enough money to get one or two.

 

 

 

Maybe I misread or was just presumptuous; I thought this was gonna be a forum role-play since body-switching would be kind of odd to do in-game since it can't really be portrayed without Fantasias, either. Either way, if it was just going to be an imagined change anyway, Fantasias wouldn't actually be necessary regardless.

[Aaron]

Aaron you are helping me. Groping in this case is still touching yourself. Even though you are in someone else's body, technically it can still count as your own at the moment until you get back in your own body.

I try to help when I can

[SM Nick]

Ok well the device would be an magical orb left behind by an ancient civilization (probably Allagans), and it would have been buried underground until it was dug up by accident.

 

Break it halfway through the plot.

 

And? What would happen?

 

On another note, I freaking hate that a single topic did indeed derail SO MUCH. I was just pitching a concept, and it became a freaking battle here.

[SM Nick]

Can I propose something looping back to Fantasia? For April Fool's Day, my FC did a fun little RP event where those of us interested Fantasia'd our character's because they were ICly "cursed" and had to find a way to break it. If you want to avoid all the trouble with role-players concerned about their character's bodies being groped or misused, I think that could be a decent alternative for some light-hearted RP centered around waking up in another body. The basic idea is still there, minus the creepy factor.

Ok but you got to factor in the fact that it costs RL money for a Fantasia, and some of us might not have enough money to get one or two.

 

 

 

Maybe I misread or was just presumptuous; I thought this was gonna be a forum role-play since body-switching would be kind of odd to do in-game since it can't really be portrayed without Fantasias, either. Either way, if it was just going to be an imagined change anyway, Fantasias wouldn't actually be necessary regardless.

 

It IS forum RP. This would not be done in-game; it would be done in the Town Square and it would be like an open thread.

[Aaron]

Ok well the device would be an magical orb left behind by an ancient civilization (probably Allagans), and it would have been buried underground until it was dug up by accident.

 

Break it halfway through the plot.

 

And? What would happen?

 

On another note, I freaking hate that a single topic did indeed derail SO MUCH. I was just pitching a concept, and it became a freaking battle here.

Twas to be expected. 

 

I sometimes feel a lot of people platonically hate each other lol.

 

Don't feel to bad, im sure no one intentionally tried and or meant to attack you or your idea.

[Verad]

Ok well the device would be an magical orb left behind by an ancient civilization (probably Allagans), and it would have been buried underground until it was dug up by accident.

 

Break it halfway through the plot.

 

And? What would happen?

 

On another note, I freaking hate that a single topic did indeed derail SO MUCH. I was just pitching a concept, and it became a freaking battle here.

 

That puts the burden of finding a new solution to the problem on the players, whether that be building another solution or digging up an alternative orb somewhere. If you don't want the plot to be your characters fixing the problem for the people caught up in it, you will need to take the means of fixing it away from them.

 

If this is just going to be "my character causes and then fixes a problem for some strangers" then I retract the suggestion, but at that point why do you need the other players except as an audience?

[Aldotsk]

Can I propose something looping back to Fantasia? For April Fool's Day, my FC did a fun little RP event where those of us interested Fantasia'd our character's because they were ICly "cursed" and had to find a way to break it. If you want to avoid all the trouble with role-players concerned about their character's bodies being groped or misused, I think that could be a decent alternative for some light-hearted RP centered around waking up in another body. The basic idea is still there, minus the creepy factor.

 

Personally, I think this is also the best way to go as a safe measure. Regardless, I think we will have some creepy factor in terms of gender change related anyways. But the thing is, as Solis said - the vial of fantasia is required for real money to buy the bottle. At least two to return back to yourself. OR you can pretend to be a female without using the bottle should your budget cannot do much.

 

Let's leave the actual moderation to the actual moderators, eh?

 

As an aside, it's really getting tiresome to jump into a thread and see people arguing over whether or not somebody should even comment in the first place. The tone policing is also pretty stale as well.

 

As for the event itself? I tend to favour such things being limited to OOC 'what if' situations rather than anything super serious on an IC level. More often than not, however, this sort of thing just ends up revolving around people not so subtly making a big deal out of having the opposite gender's...uh...'bits' and basing most of their interaction around that.

 

Hence the wariness, I'd imagine.

 

It honestly can just be private RP between people who sign up to do it. Some people do their own RP in terms of plot and events - and even within the FC to avoid conflicts with all other roleplayers outside the event. 

 

 

 

I am pretty sure this isn't called "We choose our roleplayers selectively and weed out people who think differently from us." - Because this community is made for people to show civil manners and show friendly tones and try to work it out between players if they have some kind of issues. If you think that kind of attitude is being excellent, then you obviously are just being a sadistic troll and is not really doing any favor for the OP to improve his ideas of events.

 

The potential issues have been listed. Other people have recognized them as valid issues, and even the OP has acknowledged that these issues can be a problem and, to his credit, is placing guidelines in his plot to help mitigate them.

 

Are you sure you're defending him the way you think you are?

 

I think at this point, the way I am reading it is that you are just trying to prove something here as in to aggravate me more. But I'll just stop bickering with you since it's going nowhere.

[Verad]

 

I think at this point, the way I am reading it is that you are just trying to prove something here as in to aggravate me more. But I'll just stop bickering with you since it's going nowhere.

 

I appreciate that. Your negativity is really dragging things down.

[Branson Thorne]

Ok well the device would be an magical orb left behind by an ancient civilization (probably Allagans), and it would have been buried underground until it was dug up by accident.

 

Break it halfway through the plot.

 

And? What would happen?

 

On another note, I freaking hate that a single topic did indeed derail SO MUCH. I was just pitching a concept, and it became a freaking battle here.

 

I was actually thinking it was one of the more civilized threads I've seen that went wrong.

 

People are discussing and arguing points of view. Not needless name calling and tearing each other down.

 

You pitched a concept and the community responded. If I was in your place, I'd get everything in order, rules, guidelines, event coordinators and try again.

 

I think if you'd of done that before hand, it may of went smoother.