Edited Title; Public Space OOC/IC issue~

[Oli!]

There are many ways you can be stopped from peeing on the sidewalk. Tackled by a passerby, tazed by a police officer, having your urine caught by a cup, who knows. The point is that just about any action done in meatspace can be stopped through physical interference. Not the case in Roleplay, where any interference at all has to go through the person being interfered with, who then makes the choice of whether or not they want to go with it or not. Therefore, this situation would be more akin to someone coming up and asking you whether you would allow them to stop you from peeing on the sidewalk, at which point you decide yes, no, or to ignore them.

 

Um, no. No other human has control over the function of my bladder, thank you. They could tackle me, taze me, etc, but they literally can't stop me from exercising bodily functions, nor can they inhibit the effect of gravity upon the results. The sidewalk got wet. Sorry.

 

Regarding the rest, I feel at this point that you may be arguing for the sake of arguing, and I'm going to disengage from that. It's unproductive.

 

 

Then in that case, that would fall under the category of Able, which I outlined in the second part of my post. When Morality is removed, you are Allowed to pee on the sidwalk, because you are physically Able to do so. So, the answer in that scenario would be Yes, you are Physically Allowed to pee on the sidewalk, though it may not be Socially Acceptable. I expressed such a little further down after the portion that you quoted.

 

Also, I never argue solely for the sake of argument. I argue for the sake of increased understanding regarding people's motives and outlooks on the way they conduct themselves. As I've stated beforehand, I don't necessarily morally agree with everything that I'm stating. The reason why I am arguing it nonetheless is that we can achieve a greater amount of communal cohesion and understanding by recognizing the reasons why someone may choose to do something, or what they may be thinking when they do something, regardless of whether or not one agrees. The end goal, at least for me, is to have someone think "huh, here's a few reasons why someone might not want me to intrude on their RP despite being in public, maybe I can use my new understanding to see where they're coming from next time I'm in this situation," instead of blacklisting them outright because of an initial disagreement. And to be honest, I actually kind of find the accusation that I'm only arguing for the sake of arguing or being confrontational a little on the rude side.

[D'aito Kuji]

While yes, not doing it in public is the easiest solution at first glance, the problem arises of where to have it in the first place.

 

Party chat or tells, even in the middle of the Quicksand, have been used for private RP since there was RP in the game. If people wanna RP in /say and get pissy when people enter their range and reply, they should have considered it beforehand.

 

I suppose I just presumed if people were RP'ing in public it was more or less an invitation to join if there seemed like there was a reasonable opportunity. If two characters are PDA'ing I feel like I could say "ew gross!"  I wouldn't but I think it should be expected that someone might.

 

The way I usually get involved in RP is to speak to NPCs as though there were other PCs.  I've had some negative feedback here and there but it's mostly been positive.

 

I've also done public RP in the Drowning Wench and expected (hoped) that others would join in.  I don't understand why anyone would do public RP in an RP game and NOT want others to join in.  I feel like public RP is an invitation.  That's my intention anyway.  If a group is standing together and not saying anything (or speaking only in /em) then I presume it's private.

[Anthony Valron]

When it comes to roleplay, and even situations in real life, there is really only one clear answer: Don't. In no way is it ever acceptable to just waltz up to anyone you have had no prior interaction with and engage them in any way, shape, or form. It is rude and disrespectful. Even so much as emoting your character's annoyance or interest in the conversation between two friends is highly inconsiderate and should be avoided at all costs.

 

As anyone who knows me can tell you, I recently removed the "walk-ups welcome" blurb in my search info, and I would encourage any and all roleplayers to do the same. If someone is roleplaying publicly, that does not give you the right to engage them if they are a complete stranger. If I have a need to introduce my character to someone new, then I will arrange for it to be done so through an existing, mutual contact, just like how ever other normal person meets new people in real life.

 

For more information on the issues regarding engaging strangers in any way, please refer to this article. Though it is written for IRL purposes, I think it can be applied to roleplay as well.

I'm sorry, I highly disagree with pretty much everything you just said!

 

I Roleplay an Ishgardian Highborn. If you don't understand the connotations to that, he's an entitled, self-confident and xenophobic snob.

 

My character was in a room in Dragonhead, waiting for another to enter for a meeting.

 

He expressed his annoyance with a two-line emote that didn't engage so much as speak to state of mind.

 

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I engage strangers all the time, in real life. It's my job. I'm a political science major and I was in charge of many public events for a national-level congressional campaign in which I had to interact with and socialize with the general public.

 

To make such a blanket statement reeks of ignorance and elitism, as well as a great deal of entitlement in saying that we must abide by your rules.

 

 

(E: for those who don't understand, it's the onion quoted and I'm feeding the satire with my own satire)

[Renata Turner]

If I don't want people joining in my rp, I take it to /p or /t. Simple as that. But. I am also the person who will shoot someone a tell saying "hey your char is talking about blah blah and my char blah blah blah. Would it be alright it my char came up and blah blah blah?"

 

But that's for where there is already an existing rp going on. Otherwise, I send a tell asking if they're ic before I engage them.

[Eratika]

To be honest, if there is RP going on in a public place in /s where everyone can see it.. Then I think it's pretty much up for grabs to have your character butt their head into it in some way. Though, as courtesy goes would be nice to ask for permission in /tell before doing so, but that doesn't happen all the time.

 

Impromptu RP is one of the best.

 

However, I see nothing wrong with the /em that Anthony did.. all that seemed to be was his character addressing what was going on around him in character.

[LiadansWhisper]

When it comes to roleplay, and even situations in real life, there is really only one clear answer: Don't. In no way is it ever acceptable to just waltz up to anyone you have had no prior interaction with and engage them in any way, shape, or form. It is rude and disrespectful. Even so much as emoting your character's annoyance or interest in the conversation between two friends is highly inconsiderate and should be avoided at all costs.

 

As anyone who knows me can tell you, I recently removed the "walk-ups welcome" blurb in my search info, and I would encourage any and all roleplayers to do the same. If someone is roleplaying publicly, that does not give you the right to engage them if they are a complete stranger. If I have a need to introduce my character to someone new, then I will arrange for it to be done so through an existing, mutual contact, just like how ever other normal person meets new people in real life.

 

For more information on the issues regarding engaging strangers in any way, please refer to this article. Though it is written for IRL purposes, I think it can be applied to roleplay as well.

 

Really?

 

Because here, people do that all the time.  Seriously - all the time.  In fact, if you don't smile and acknowledge people here, you are considered to be rude and snobbish.

[Shoshopu]

When it comes to roleplay, and even situations in real life, there is really only one clear answer: Don't. In no way is it ever acceptable to just waltz up to anyone you have had no prior interaction with and engage them in any way, shape, or form. It is rude and disrespectful. Even so much as emoting your character's annoyance or interest in the conversation between two friends is highly inconsiderate and should be avoided at all costs.

 

As anyone who knows me can tell you, I recently removed the "walk-ups welcome" blurb in my search info, and I would encourage any and all roleplayers to do the same. If someone is roleplaying publicly, that does not give you the right to engage them if they are a complete stranger. If I have a need to introduce my character to someone new, then I will arrange for it to be done so through an existing, mutual contact, just like how ever other normal person meets new people in real life.

 

For more information on the issues regarding engaging strangers in any way, please refer to this article. Though it is written for IRL purposes, I think it can be applied to roleplay as well.

 

Really?

 

Because here, people do that all the time.  Seriously - all the time.  In fact, if you don't smile and acknowledge people here, you are considered to be rude and snobbish.

 

I hate to spoil the joke, but the article is the from the Onion...

[LiadansWhisper]

 

 

 

I hate to spoil the joke, but the article is the from the Onion...

 

That's what I get for reading the article on my phone browser.  ._.