Server Selection (Prelude)

[Asyria]

Honestly, I'd be happy if someone just picked a server arbitrarily, as long as it wasn't Sephiroth.

The server's name doesn't matter the slightest, the only important thing is we all know which it is so we can all roll there.

[Kylin]

Honestly, I'd be happy if someone just picked a server arbitrarily, as long as it wasn't Sephiroth.

The server's name doesn't matter the slightest, the only important thing is we all know which it is so we can all roll there.

 

There's a huge debate about the vote in the Council Chambers right now about this. However, as it was basically stated there, a vote was promised. To take it away only about 24 hours from the actual vote would cause a rather large uproar. It would be different if we had time to discuss it more thoroughly but there is no time anymore. We've essentially been advocating the vote for months now and everyone has accepted that there would be one if server names were known before launch. And well, server names are about to be known 3 weeks before launch. The most I think we can do is just shorten the length of the actual vote, but not take it away at this point.

[Kylin]

Double post ftw! The following procedures and whatnot will be posted in the official poll thread. However, I want it all to be made public now so everyone can get a feel of how things will work in advance. Most of this is posted in the Headlines sticky but there have been some modifications and there may be at least one more before the poll goes up.

 

*You have 1 vote and cannot change it.

 

*Poll will remain open for 24 hours. This shorter span of time is meant to prevent a scattered community during open beta and by extension, the final version.

 

*Results will remain hidden for the first 2 hours of the poll. If you wish to vote with the majority, hold off until after this initial time limit expires. This is being done to prevent those fortunate enough to vote first from having too much of an influence over the server choice right away (in other words, a "fair" start).

 

*Most secondary forum accounts should be temporarily disabled.

 

*Forum registration is currently set to admin approval only.

 

*2nd place server in the poll will become the overflow server. That means if the RP server gets overloaded and locked down, the overflow server is where the rest of the RP community will go until something can be worked out.

 

*Poll results are final. Do not whine after the results that the server name is lame, girly, or silly. Regardless of any drama here or on any other site, the chosen RP server will remain the same. So donât waste our time and energy whining about it.

 

*In the extremely rare event of a tie, the RPC Council will hold a vote to break it. (This is being discussed now in the Council Chambers and a quicker and more efficient tie-breaking solution will hopefully be ready soon.)

 

*Due to the fact that this vote is happening during Open Beta, participants may have to reroll after the vote (delete character and recreate). This can not be avoided. Fortunately, you can skip the opening CS anyway. With the time limit on the poll greatly reduced, this shouldn't be a big issue.

 

 

*If you see a similar RP server poll on Core, please contact Cerulean Shaman immediately. He will shut it down.

*If you see a similar RP server poll on any other site, please direct them here and tell them that theyâre only causing confusion amongst the overall community. Spam the poll as much as needed to get the poll starterâs attention.

*Please keep an eye on the beta forums as well. Someone may try to create some kind of poll there.

 

 

*Moderators: Please move any other server selection poll created to the Council Chambers for removal. Only one poll topic should exist on these forums.

*Council: Please mobilize your members as needed. Also be sure to properly announce the winning server (and overflow server) after the vote concludes.

 

*Poll results are final. We will not acknowledge any outside RP server polls if they continue on with their endeavor even after being directed here.

[Kashemia]

Sounds good Castiel!

[Siben]

There's a huge debate about the vote in the Council Chambers right now about this. However, as it was basically stated there, a vote was promised. To take it away only about 24 hours from the actual vote would cause a rather large uproar. It would be different if we had time to discuss it more thoroughly but there is no time anymore. We've essentially been advocating the vote for months now and everyone has accepted that there would be one if server names were known before launch. And well, server names are about to be known 3 weeks before launch. The most I think we can do is just shorten the length of the actual vote, but not take it away at this point.

 

Pardon my language (and rhetoric) but, WHO THE FUCK thought it would be a "good idea" to advocate stripping away the ability of the community as a whole to decide where it would go?

 

Mad props to you Castiel for shooting that tyrannical proposition down. :approve:

 

I've been trying to hold my tongue over this asinine debacle about server selection but c'mon. This is getting ridiculous.

 

I get that some people were "inconvenienced" in beta when the game was randomly assigning servers and people who got stuck on Exdeath and where ever else had to reroll on Jecht only because DUE TO RANDOM CHANCE most of us ended up there BEFORE they gave us the option to select a server. But there is absolutely zero reason to try and force a hardline decision down the throat of the community simply because the fact of the matter is THERE IS NO URGENCY TO THIS DECISION. Game goes live in 3 (three) weeks, why do you people INSIST on whipping yourselves up into a frenzy over beta, BETA. It's all going to be wiped at launch anyway (names aside), so just relax.

 

I understand people want to snipe their own "original creation do not steal" character names like Cid Do'Urden or Mary Sue Kirk before other people do and in order to do that "ASAP" I understand the desire to just say, "This is the decision, you hoi polloi can like it or lump it." However I can in no capacity approve or advocate such a totalitarian proposition.

 

Anyone who wishes to take away the voice of the community, in my mind, doesn't want to have a community to begin with, they want drones who'll blindly bend to their own wishes. I don't know who the genius is/was behind that idea but I am seriously disappointed that someone could think that would be "ok."

 

[Aveline]

Pardon my language (and rhetoric) but, WHO THE FUCK thought it would be a "good idea" to advocate stripping away the ability of the community as a whole to decide where it would go?

 

Mad props to you Castiel for shooting that tyrannical proposition down. :approve:

 

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

 

That's all I'm gonna say about your silly remarks.

[Siben]

Sorry, I'm sure I'd have been able to make a more coherent, correct reprisal to the issue had it been brought up in the public areas of the site, instead of done like some shady backroom deal in the Council-only section.

[Tadir]

I think it was more that what server we are on doesn't really make a difference, as long as we're on the same one. So whether it's picked or voted on, the result is the same. And no need for bad language.

[Axl]

Adults, squabbling like children over something so trivial, you all make me so proud.

[Kylin]

Play nice people, lest you anger the forum god and incur smiting

 

I actually didn't shoot down the idea per say. It's just too late to really change up anything so suddenly. The idea to have one person be chosen to pick the server is actually probably the fastest method available. However, there's just not enough time to discuss that and decide on who would do it at this stage. Had it come up much earlier, it could have potentially been a route to consider for the sake of a swift and effortless decision.

[Siben]

I think it was more that what server we are on doesn't really make a difference' date=' as long as we're on the same one. So whether it's picked or voted on, the result is the same. And no need for bad language.[/quote']

 

No, see, it does make a difference. Intra-LinkShell if a guild leader wants to make an executive decision that "We, as a Link Shell are going to this server." that's their prerogative. But when you bring in the vested interests of multiple guilds and factions then something like that becomes "not ok" due to the sheer number of people and agendas that are in play. If you're not going to do it democratically then there's no point in even having a "coalition" of Link Shells.

 

Also, letters arranged arbitrarily by a writer have no moral alignment or consciousness to make moral choices so they can't be "bad."

 

I will agree with the sentiment that the name itself doesn't make a difference at all BUT simply because there is more than 1 server (and those servers are named after imaginary people some players have wrote slash-fic about) people will bitch and moan about what one is picked, so giving them the ability to make their wishes known effectively removes any weight they could bring to bear on the argument, because they had the ability to vote for their choice.

 

Way to take the 'high ground' Axl. Just keep that nose pointed straight up, it's easier to maintain a smug sense of superiority that way.

[sassaroth]

I suggest we roll a D20 and consult the table 1:1.

 

Table 1:1

1-20 Remember its just a server name, we aren't naming a child.

[Siben]

I suggest we roll a D20 and consult the table 1:1.

 

Table 1:1

1-20 Remember its just a server name, we aren't naming a child.

 

I can't find an image macro for how hard I laughed at that, suffice to say, I just finished cleaning up all the juice i spat over my monitor

[Keir]

That's right folks, all this fuss over the NAME of the server you'll be playing on. It won't affect you in any way, shape or form. So why are people getting so bent out of shape about it?

 

Actually, we aren't voting about just the name.

 

There are many repercussions with choosing the right or wrong server. We could have to deal with a non-rp linkshell that is hostile toward others. We could have to deal with either an overcrowded, or on the other side of the coin, underdeveloped population that could have lasting effects on our economy.

 

There are certain things everyone needs to keep in mind when choosing the server we'll all be using.

[Tadir]

We don't have that information yet and won't til after release. So, yes, we are just voting on a name. There is a possibility that there will be one or more of those groups on every single server in the game.

[UnbeknownstGhost]

I suggest we roll a D20 and consult the table 1:1.

 

Table 1:1

1-20 Remember its just a server name, we aren't naming a child.

 

I can't find an image macro for how hard I laughed at that, suffice to say, I just finished cleaning up all the juice i spat over my monitor

 

 

Ah, nerd jokes. We love you so.

[Kima wolf]

Well there are some precautions that can be taken already. Like not picking the very first server, no matter if it wins or not, like not choosing a server with a extremely popular villain name (if they go that route) because it too will be super crowded. For every person who rolls their eyes at "Sephiroth", there are 3 more who are going **** yeah! i'm rollin there!" So right now it very much will be more than a name.

[Asyria]

I hereby declare the "To Vote orTo Rule?" debate as a Royal Can Of Worms.

Anyone calling it a Democratic Can Of Worms will be hanged.

^^

[sassaroth]

nerd jokes is all I got. :afro:

[Trizzip]

It's not about picking a certain server name. It's about DEMOCRACY. It's about having the right to have a say in the matter. I like to feel like I matter, so a vote is very important in my eyes. To take that away would be very unethical in my opinion. Is the choice that big of deal? No it isn't, but it isn't about that, it's about what the choice represents. It's the principal of the matter.

 

If there are individuals enraged over the fact that the vote is even in consideration of being taken away is quite understandable. I am not in agreement that the right of 'choice' be taken away from so many so that so few who are in beta can have certain privileges (such as securing a name 'in-game').

 

If you take away the vote or lessen it's value, why not go the whole nine and eliminate all voting? (for the charter, for all future proposals). Because by taking this vote away, why should folks care about voting after that? If I vote for something in the future, it could potentially not matter because of discussions made by council leaders that I do not get to partake in. At that point, I'll feel exactly like how I do with voting in corrupt government officials, and that point is that "it doesn't matter what our vote is. Our power as a community is an illusion which has the only purpose of making us 'think' our opinions matter"

 

Voting reinforces our importance as a whole, as a community. What good is a RP community that is not community at all but a divided bunch of individuals who seek to gain their own good despite taking certain individual rights from others?

 

I'm not even going to be in-game until PS3 release and already have my character's first and last name posted up on the forum. I'm pretty creative, if someone hijacks my name, I'll just make a new one, no big deal. Surely not a big enough deal to rob the people of their right to have a choice.

[Shamadconde]

I hereby declare the "To Vote orTo Rule?" debate as a Royal Can Of Worms.

Anyone calling it a Democratic Can Of Worms will be hanged.

^^

 

What if I were to call it a Republican Can of Worms? Independent Can of Worms? Pirate Party Can of Worms?

[Asyria]

That's exactly what I said.

The ONLY reason we're even having that vote is for the sake of Democracy.

The vote itself isn't all that important, only the result is.

Which is, knowing where to roll.

 

Shamad, Pirate Party Can of worms is acceptable cause pirates are awesome. Otherwise you'll be hanged. ^^

[Vareal]

Greasy, slimy gopher guts!!!

 

Is the vote opening up at midnight tonight?

[Shamadconde]

Pirate Party Can of Worms it is! Can we make that our server?

[Nikolai]

Well' date=' I agree with Castiel that the vote itself should stay intact... But I'm honestly baffled as to why the [b']community as a whole[/b] cares so much about a server name?

 

That's right folks, all this fuss over the NAME of the server you'll be playing on. It won't affect you in any way, shape or form. So why are people getting so bent out of shape about it?

 

I'm gonna disagree. A name has value in its aesthetic. Using FFXI server names as an example, let's say I'm a non-RPing friend you'd like to bring along to the server you'll be playing on, but they have other friends who are gonna be playing on other servers. You tell me you're on Remora server, and I'll be unimpressed, and probably go join my other friends. However, if you tell me you've rolled up on Fenrir server, I'd be much more inclined to join you.

 

I also just generally like to be able to say "I play on (awesome-server-name-here)." Surely that's sensible?