Gauging Interest: VoIP Server

[Deirdre]

Afternoon everyone!

 

In the OOC chat today the topic of a mumble/vent server came up for the RPC. This is a voice server where members of the RPC can come and hang out, chat, and make use of for dungeons or meeting and whatnot.

 

Please vote if you would make use of it or not. If you would, please post if you prefer mumble or ventrillo. If there is a strong number of people who would use it, I'll get it set up tonight.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Edit: sorry! This VoIP will be for Intermission/Backstage, our OOC shell.

 

EditEdit:

 

Just to let everyone know I went ahead and ordered a server for a month so we could test this out and see how much fun we can have!

 

Anyone actually interested in the VoIP server, here are the details:

 

(To download Mumble please click here!)

 

Server Name: intermission.mumble.com

Port: 5394

Password: FFXIV

 

PLEASE register with your character name, so everyone can recognize who one another is! If you have any questions/concerns please send me a PM! Thank you!

[Lizzo]

I'm good for either!

[Ciara Snow]

i like the one that doesn't cost you money!

[Deirdre]

Either choice will cost money especially for a large number of people but its not a huge deal.

[PeriasGift]

I think it's a good idea to have one for the community as a whole. That way linkshell leaders can have meetings there instead of pulling everyone to one server, handing out passwords/info, etc. 

As far as mumble or vent goes, in my experience mumble has better sound quality, especially if you're recording, but vent has options like changing the volume for an individual which I adore. I'd lean towards vent, but I'm fine either way.

[Aeiteil Strand]

Either one works for me. I have used ventrillo but not the other one, but doesn't matter. I think it is a good idea. I would have to get more comfortable with you all, but that's fine =D!

[Kylin]

I voted no personally. I've never been a fan of voice chat. In my experience, it only strengthens the whole "clique" mentality further and makes people feel left out. Back in my FFXI days, I knew a group of people who used it during RP events all the time. I didn't (and several other members didn't) and we had no desire or need to. As such, we felt left out of a lot of things and those who were in the voice chat slowly got viewed as an impenetrable clique until they eventually stopped using it.

 

So to summarize, I think it does more harm than good. That's just me though.

[Deirdre]

I've made a ton of wonderful friends via different voice chats. If you don't want to socialize with others that's perfectly fine. Everyone happy and friendly, and there are separate channels if you decide you don't want to listen to someone.

 

Another note, if we go ahead with this I've decided not to label it RPC, it will instead be associated with intermission/backstage.

 

[Kylin]

If you don't want to socialize with others that's perfectly fine.

 

One can still socialize with others without voice related chat. Most have been doing it for years no problem . It's a comfort thing.

[faceman7381]

I voted no personally. I've never been a fan of voice chat. In my experience, it only strengthens the whole "clique" mentality further and makes people feel left out. Back in my FFXI days, I knew a group of people who used it during RP events all the time. I didn't (and several other members didn't) and we had no desire or need to. As such, we felt left out of a lot of things and those who were in the voice chat slowly got viewed as an impenetrable clique until they eventually stopped using it.

 

So to summarize, I think it does more harm than good. That's just me though.

 

This.

[Ciara Snow]

i promise kylin i never go that way, i like to chat sometimes but i totally get where your coming from ive seen that happen on xi and xiv and though i enjoy talking to people i don't do it everyday~

 

Also in events I like to pay attention, though I like having it for things like dungeons when typing wastes precious time , I prefer to pay attention to my screen and type back to people and I also have a habit of having music or movies going

 

So I guess I vote yes but if it does become clique we should step back a little bit and remember both those in a talk program and those outside of it. Manners, and do prioritize typing to talking as your barely even in a situation where everyone is in the talk program itself.

[John Spiegel]

While I see voice chat being useful for end-game-y stuff, I voted "no". 

 

Back in FFXI, we got a Ventrilo thing together and like six of us used it a lot and no one else did. As a result, we kind of polarized the shell since the non-ventriloers didn't get in on our commentary or general BS-ing. We also ended up diluting the RP because we were just chatting so much OOCly. Eventually, we just kind of nixed the Ventrilo altogether.

[Deirdre]

If you don't want to socialize with others that's perfectly fine.

 

One can still socialize with others without voice related chat. Most have been doing it for years no problem . It's a comfort thing.

 

Sorry it's hard to get my point across on my phone.

 

I meant socialize via voice.

 

Lots of people in VoIP just sit and listen and communicate via the built in chat function.

Also, judging by the success of the OOC Skype chat, I don't see too many clique issues occurring, we all seem to get along.

[miyasha]

I personally don't have a problem with either VoIP program.  I've had Vent installed for various XI and XIV shells, and while I've never used mumble I'm not opposed to trying it out.

[Aeiteil Strand]

I voted no personally. I've never been a fan of voice chat. In my experience, it only strengthens the whole "clique" mentality further and makes people feel left out. Back in my FFXI days, I knew a group of people who used it during RP events all the time. I didn't (and several other members didn't) and we had no desire or need to. As such, we felt left out of a lot of things and those who were in the voice chat slowly got viewed as an impenetrable clique until they eventually stopped using it.

 

So to summarize, I think it does more harm than good. That's just me though.

I do agree completely, but some people get a long in a better light during real chat. It brings a different side of OOC out. I would never ever RP in that!

 

I do hear you though, and I do agree.

[Eva]

Voted no for the same reason all the others voted no, plus while it may be good for socializing, I feel it detracts from RP, which is sort of the reason we're all here. Also I'm a visual sort of person and text works just fine for me. Voice chat is a headache of which I want no part.

[Faiz]

As much as I enjoy voice chat, I don't agree with having a means of such. The whole "strengthening the community" doesn't make sense to me 'cause as far as I can tell and have been witnessing/experiencing, the community's already strong. Yeah, there's people who stand out more than others, but that just means they enjoy talking more (or putting themselves out there instead of lurking/staying on the sidelines).

 

I'm not into a cliquey atmosphere and that's been a problem with past MMO's I've RPed in. Guild Wars 2 being the prime example. While the community itself was big, you could easily tell who was part of what clique, and a lot of those not included in such groups had a hard time when it came to many things, RPing included.

 

Maybe I'm ranting, but it originally sounded like a good idea to have a means of voice chat until I read Kylin's post.

[Deirdre]

I want to reiterate that this is for OOC communication, and is in no way meant to be audio RP, lol. Those of us who make use of VoIP on a daily basis to talk with fellow RPers also do so while RPing, and if we get distracted simply jump channels or mute. We are not worse RPers for it either.

 

This topic isn't a debate on the pros or cons of VoIP, just to see how many people would use it so I'm not wasting my money. If you're not interested, that's great, if you are, please post your VoIP of preference, thanks!

[Faiz]

Sorry, let me approach from a neutral perspective then:

 

I don't believe there'd be enough people to merit spending money on a server, which in turn would be a waste of money.

[Deirdre]

Sorry, let me approach from a neutral perspective then:

 

I don't believe there'd be enough people to merit spending money on a server, which in turn would be a waste of money.

 

Which is why I'm polling to see how many people would use it!

[Grott]

Voted no for the same reason all the others voted no, plus while it may be good for socializing, I feel it detracts from RP, which is sort of the reason we're all here.  Also I'm a visual sort of person and text works just fine for me.  Voice chat is a headache of which I want no part.

 

I completely agree. 100%. Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

I will piggy back on this though and say that even if it is OOC, hearing the voice of someone who is RPing a character I interact with might subconsciously effect how I view the character. I realize there's a big difference between the player and the character, but I can't say I'm a perfect enough RPer to completely ignore the human element.

[Varus]

Voted yes because if people want to use a VOIP for whatever reason, they should have it.

[Mtoto Wamoto]

I support the idea of having a VoIP as an option for people who'd like to use it.

 

A lot of the time, when I'm in my own private mumble of friends, I either move to a private room or move to a RP channel to be alone and let me focus on the RP at hand. VoIP has never gotten in the way of my RP personally.

 

When I'm not RPing, I like to socialize with people and make new friends. The friends I met on mumble, I've known for nearly 3 years now, and while they aren't the only people I hang out with, I log in because I love socializing with them and would like to with othesr as well.

 

Having the human element is something that helps keep things that happen IC, well, IC. It allows me to detach myself from my character and also break down my social walls so I meet new people. It also is incredibly useful when I do endgame content. 

 

I think that having a VoIP server for the community wouldn't be detrimental as its simply an option for people to use, and options are never bad, imo. Regardless if there are people who say they won't be making use of it, there are still people who would. Perhaps create one and expand it as need be so you're not wasting money? I'm sure people who want it will use it in due time 

[Blade]

Voted yes because if people want to use a VOIP for whatever reason, they should have it.

 

I don't think the vote is really addressing whether it should be done or not. The RPC really has no place regulating social activities of the roleplayers anyways. As Deirdre said, this is more to gauge interest and what sort of server options we should into investing in, and whether we should pay for it or not.

 

I'm abstaining from voting since I'm not super huge for voice chat, but if it was there I might use it on rare occasions. I might also never use it. So yeah, going neutral here.

[ZinJaeger]

I think it would be interesting, but if there are more

than 4 on the chat, won't that be very chaotic in the

long run?

 

Anyway, to quote Man of Steel: "Sometimes you just

have to take the leap and judge the situation afterwards." :geek:

 

I think it's very nice of ya Deirdre if you're setting

up a vent or something, and I will grant you many

nerd creds if you do it 8-)