Nox Posted July 10, 2013 Share #1 Posted July 10, 2013 Could someone point me in the direction of all the Lore surrounding Ishgard/Dragoons? I'm rewriting my character's history and would like to know more, but can't find a whole lot. Thanks in advance. Link to comment
Gideon Aryeh Posted July 10, 2013 Share #2 Posted July 10, 2013 http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Ishgard Link to comment
Nox Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted July 10, 2013 Quote http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Ishgard I had that open, but I figured there was more to it than that. Maybe I'm wrong. Link to comment
Savarah Posted July 10, 2013 Share #4 Posted July 10, 2013 I haven't found a -lot- of lore on anything, cities, races, or otherwise. Here's to hoping SE will dump lore on us before launch! Link to comment
Gone4everbye Posted July 10, 2013 Share #5 Posted July 10, 2013 Quote I haven't found a -lot- of lore on anything, cities, races, or otherwise. Here's to hoping SE will dump lore on us before launch! This. Rakka'li and I have been searching for more specific lore on Keepers of the Moon, to further expand our backstories. I have a lot of ideas that I've got on the backburner to flesh out some history for their tribe, but without knowing basic customs and cultural ideals, it's risky to take any of those and run with them, for fear of lorebreaking. ._. Link to comment
Nox Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted July 10, 2013 Quote Quote I haven't found a -lot- of lore on anything, cities, races, or otherwise. Here's to hoping SE will dump lore on us before launch! This. Rakka'li and I have been searching for more specific lore on Keepers of the Moon, to further expand our backstories. I have a lot of ideas that I've got on the backburner to flesh out some history for their tribe, but without knowing basic customs and cultural ideals, it's risky to take any of those and run with them, for fear of lorebreaking. ._. Pretty much. My character will be a Dragoon at some point in time and I'm trying to write it so he actually has a reason to pursue being one. I just want to know more about everything so I'm not lorebreaking or writing useless stuff. Link to comment
Savarah Posted July 10, 2013 Share #7 Posted July 10, 2013 The lack of Keeper lore is infuriating. :frustrated: As for my primary alt, I was gonna roll up a Sea Wolf female. I got to thinking about Ishgard and dragoons, and I need more info on Ishgard to see if that would be plausible. Also, I don't know -jack- about Sharlayan. Link to comment
Eva Posted July 10, 2013 Share #8 Posted July 10, 2013 There is extremely little lore surrounding Ishgard and Dragoons. I would highly recommend running a YouTube search on the cutscenes from the Dragoon quests in 1.0 which may help shed a little light on it. I RP a character that was born in Ishgard, but have had to distance myself a bit from that because there is so little information. Her earlier upbringing and her father's reasons for leaving might be made more clear once that information becomes available. I just don't want to make assumptions about it. I know Uther RP's a character with a strong background in Ishgard as well. He might have some additional input. Link to comment
Adelpha Posted July 11, 2013 Share #9 Posted July 11, 2013 'Seregelleth said: Also' date=' I don't know -jack- about Sharlayan.[/quote'] I don't think anybody does, which is a little bit frustrating given that Reveal hidden contents almost all of the major storyline NPCs are from there. Maybe that'll get further explored in the ARR main storyline, or in the first expansion. Link to comment
Torn Sky Posted July 11, 2013 Share #10 Posted July 11, 2013 *shakes fist about the tiny blurb or two there is about the Hellsguard homeland* Trying to write up Torn's origins has not been too fun either. At this point I'm going ahead and making up a few small, reasonable details to help give the beginning of her backstory at least a little bit of life-- Small enough that it would be easy to quietly retcon things if they turn out to be way off. Link to comment
Gone4everbye Posted July 11, 2013 Share #11 Posted July 11, 2013 I demand canon novels pre-release. You've got like a month and a half, SE. Rdygo! Link to comment
Nox Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share #12 Posted July 11, 2013 Quote I demand canon novels pre-release. You've got like a month and a half, SE. Rdygo! At least a big lore Codex (I.E. Warhammer 40k) or something. Link to comment
FreelanceWizard Posted July 11, 2013 Share #13 Posted July 11, 2013 It's a little off-topic, but one thing I'd suggest to those who are limiting their backstories at the risk of a collision with future canon is that you always have the option of saying, "this is how my family/tribe/etc. did it" and not asserting that the statements you're making are universal. That way, if someone disagrees with you or if the lore collides with you at a later date, you always have a fallback. That's a bit less viable when referring to entire other countries, of course, but if you were from a village in the territory of Ishgard, you can always make your history unique to your character. Even NPCs can get this treatment; if you say the dragoon that inspired you thought X, and subsequent lore says dragoons explicitly don't believe X, you can just say that it was just that one guy, and maybe he wandered into your village because he wasn't well-liked due to his beliefs, and so on. Link to comment
Savarah Posted July 13, 2013 Share #14 Posted July 13, 2013 Regarding Sharlayan: Reveal hidden contents I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed the wonderful NPC tattoos, normally around the neck area. Are there indicative of the Scions, or does it have to do with Sharlayan culture? Link to comment
Havoc Snow Posted July 13, 2013 Share #15 Posted July 13, 2013 Quote Regarding Sharlayan: Reveal hidden contents I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed the wonderful NPC tattoos, normally around the neck area. Are there indicative of the Scions, or does it have to do with Sharlayan culture? Reveal hidden contents It's not actually anything to do with the Scions (as that was something new to ARR I believe), the symbols of certain characters necks, foreheads, and cheeks was to mark them as a member of the Circle of Knowing). Link to comment
Savarah Posted July 13, 2013 Share #16 Posted July 13, 2013 Quote Quote Regarding Sharlayan: Reveal hidden contents I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed the wonderful NPC tattoos, normally around the neck area. Are there indicative of the Scions, or does it have to do with Sharlayan culture? Reveal hidden contents It's not actually anything to do with the Scions (as that was something new to ARR I believe), the symbols of certain characters necks, foreheads, and cheeks was to mark them as a member of the Circle of Knowing). Reveal hidden contents So is it safe to assume all the members of the Circle of Knowing are from Sharlayan? And is it purely speculation that they are manifestations of the Twelve, or is that a fact? Link to comment
Havoc Snow Posted July 13, 2013 Share #17 Posted July 13, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Regarding Sharlayan: Reveal hidden contents I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed the wonderful NPC tattoos, normally around the neck area. Are there indicative of the Scions, or does it have to do with Sharlayan culture? Reveal hidden contents It's not actually anything to do with the Scions (as that was something new to ARR I believe), the symbols of certain characters necks, foreheads, and cheeks was to mark them as a member of the Circle of Knowing). Reveal hidden contents So is it safe to assume all the members of the Circle of Knowing are from Sharlayan? And is it purely speculation that they are manifestations of the Twelve, or is that a fact? Reveal hidden contents That's correct, all members of the Circle of Knowing were originally from Sharlayan, though it's only speculation that they are manifestations of the Twelve. There are a lot of things to imply this, but only for a few of the characters. Some people say Louisoix was the manifestation of Althyk which was how he managed to telelport the players (and possibly himself) to the future, Althyk being the God of Time and all. The problem with this theory however is that the Circle of Knowing only consists of between five and eight members as far as we know, numbers varying depending on whether or not Louisoix is dead or just elsewhere, and whether Alphinaud and Alisaie were ever a part of it. The latter two have been see with the same mask devices that the other members of the Circle have, but they lack the trademark tattoos, or the eyeball symbol on their shoulder that everyone by Louisoix had. The other issue with the theory is that Louisoix is the only character who has anything about him related to the Twelve as far as appearance goes, and it's not the symbol of Althyk we see on his staff but Thaliak. Could this be a hint that he is the manifestation of Thaliak, the God of Knowledge? Maybe, it could also just be because Thaliak is the Patron Deity of Sharlayan. Anyways, that's just my two gil. I don't think there's enough connection between each of the members of the Circle of Knowing, not to mention there are not enough people for them to be adequately represented and it doesn't seem like SE will be introducing anymore anytime soon Link to comment
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