The Undyeable now Dyeable?

[LeCard]

Is it just me or were the Green colored items, such as plundered gauntlets, used to be undyeable right? I just tried dyeing my gear and found out my green colored gear icon was also up for dyeing.

 

I check the Foestriker set, it is still undyeable, did I just over look things before or did we get more stuff that we can dye?

[Covikt]

Perhaps the sets that are basic armor "in looks" are dyeable.

 

I can understand why like the Acolyte's and Foestriker's wouldn't be dyeable, but it would make alot of sense if the basic pieces that are just higher stats are ^^

 

EDIT: I just looked and Iunno why some are Dyeable and some aren't. I have a robe that looks exactly like a regular robe, but it's not dyeable and a Plundered Haubergeon that is. Guess it just depends.

[Roda]

It's not the background color of the icon that say whether or not a piece of gear is dyable, it's whether or not there's a tiny dye-color-circle in the corner of the icon.

[Fulcrum]

I was surprised to find that the greens that drop out of Wanderer's Palace (particularly, the Warlock set) is dyable. Given that the majority of prior green dungeon sets have not been, I was a bit blown away.

 

 

There's a lot of threads requesting/demanding that more items be dyable, including the dungeon sets like Acolyte's and Foestriker's, as well as the AF gear. It will be interesting to see if Squeenix gives in on this.

[Clover]

There's a lot of threads requesting/demanding that more items be dyable, including the dungeon sets like Acolyte's and Foestriker's, as well as the AF gear. It will be interesting to see if Squeenix gives in on this.

I'd deffinitely appreciate that. I stopped trying to farm the Acolyte set when I learned that its default green colour was permanent (>_<) (unless I'm mistaking the set and you're talking about a different one *sweatdrops*).

 

Also... does anyone know if the Coliseum set can be dyed? I was under the impression that it couldn't be, but yesterday I saw a screen of the cloth version in pink colour. That left me wondering.

[Grott]

 as well as the AF gear. 

 

Call me a purist, but this would really upset me. A lot of the AF sets are iconic to the Final Fantasy series. I'd be pretty annoyed to see a red Dragoon set or a green Paladin set. It would ruin the job for me a bit. That's just me though.

[Dravus]

 as well as the AF gear. 

 

Call me a purist, but this would really upset me. A lot of the AF sets are iconic to the Final Fantasy series. I'd be pretty annoyed to see a red Dragoon set or a green Paladin set. It would ruin the job for me a bit. That's just me though.

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way. Some stuff really should remain as it is.

[K'nahli]

While the thought of a green Paladin is a bit disheartening, I'd much rather put up with poor "fashion" sense than mirror replicas everywhere. I am also quite bewildered that you can only dye one part of an armour as well when, judging from the NPCs, they made it clear that the other parts are easily changeable.

[Therese Villefort]

I'm pretty liberal, everyone should be able to do what they like. Poor fashion sense... personally, i dont care if others decide to have green paladin gear or pink dragoon, that doesnt affect me. Maybe i want a blue paladin gear, which could still look decent, but isnt possible.

[Naunet]

 as well as the AF gear. 

 

Call me a purist, but this would really upset me. A lot of the AF sets are iconic to the Final Fantasy series. I'd be pretty annoyed to see a red Dragoon set or a green Paladin set. It would ruin the job for me a bit. That's just me though.

 

PURIST!

 

I jest.

 

But in all honesty, this is a place where I think the ability to customize one's look should trump any "iconic" claim. This is an MMO, not a single-player RPG, and being able to individualize yourself in-game is of paramount importance. We've got an MMO releasing in 2013 with customization options that are worse than an MMO that released in 2011. You can't even dye primary and secondary colors on the gear you can dye! *tosses hands up into the air helplessly*

[Chisae]

*agrees with Naunet*

 

This shouldn't even be an issue, it should just be a staple of MMOs nowdays. If this was a 1P game with only multiplayer support, I don't think anyone would really care, because you are the "special snowflake" of that game. In mmos that doesn't really work because everyone ends up being homogenized and bland, you don't look iconic, you look like a carbon copy of every other player of the same class.

 

It's boring and uninteresting.

 

If they have half a brain among their decision-makers, they will put in some sort of transmogrification or appearance tab. That way those that want to be "iconic" can run around in their AF armour, and those that don't can run around with the look of something else over the top of the "iconic" armour.

 

As for the dying of only one part, I'm relatively happy with how it dyes stuff. In Rift, you could dye multiple parts, but you were lucky if you could tell which parts were being dyed sometimes. You might just be wasting several gold on a dye that only colours a tiny strip on the back of the jacket, or the tiny buckles on the boots (I'm not exaggerating). At least in this game you can tell whats being dyed, when you can.

[Therese Villefort]

I found the Dye system in guildwars2 best so far. You "unlock" dyes, you have to buy a dye on one char only once and use it, then that char can use that dye forever. Armors had several parts which could be dyed and you could dye around as often as you liked with the 100+ colours you could get. You could experiment!

[Rinh Hallani]

I found the Dye system in guildwars2 best so far. You "unlock" dyes, you have to buy a dye on one char only once and use it, then that char can use that dye forever. Armors had several parts which could be dyed and you could dye around as often as you liked with the 100+ colours you could get. You could experiment!

 

Yup, definitely loved how dyes were implemented in GW2 as well. Would like to see that much freedom in this game.

[FreelanceWizard]

If they have half a brain among their decision-makers, they will put in some sort of transmogrification or appearance tab. That way those that want to be "iconic" can run around in their AF armour, and those that don't can run around with the look of something else over the top of the "iconic" armour.

 

The devs have confirmed an appearance tab is in the works, possibly for the first big patch (2.1). The design will let you display any equipment you can normally wear for your class (so no plate for casters ). I wish I had a link for the Yoshida interview reference where he describes it, alas.

[Roda]

 as well as the AF gear. 

 

Call me a purist, but this would really upset me. A lot of the AF sets are iconic to the Final Fantasy series. I'd be pretty annoyed to see a red Dragoon set or a green Paladin set. It would ruin the job for me a bit. That's just me though.

*cough cough*

 

 

[Chisae]

I found the Dye system in guildwars2 best so far. You "unlock" dyes, you have to buy a dye on one char only once and use it, then that char can use that dye forever. Armors had several parts which could be dyed and you could dye around as often as you liked with the 100+ colours you could get. You could experiment!

 

Yeah I really loved that system... there's a bunch of things I loved in GW2, that would make this game so much better.

 

The devs have confirmed an appearance tab is in the works, possibly for the first big patch (2.1). The design will let you display any equipment you can normally wear for your class (so no plate for casters ). I wish I had a link for the Yoshida interview reference where he describes it, alas.

 

This just made me ridiculously happy.

[Ildur]

*cough cough*

 

 

 

Well, that pretty much refutes every argument against dyeable AF gear ever made.

 

There are also other undyeable clothes that are not part of any iconic class. Like the robe set from Sastasha/Copperbell/Tam-Tara. The one we players get comes in green. However, there are no less than THREE NPCs who have the same set dyed in different colors: the arcanist guildmaster in Limsa Lominsa has it in a light blue; the other arcanist guildmaster (part of the storyline) has it in red; and then there's a random Miqo'te in Coerthas wearing a white one.

So apparently NPCs have a priority over the players over having unique color schemes.

[Dravus]

I'm pretty liberal, everyone should be able to do what they like. Poor fashion sense... personally, i dont care if others decide to have green paladin gear or pink dragoon, that doesnt affect me. Maybe i want a blue paladin gear, which could still look decent, but isnt possible.

 

You can't please everyone, certainly - though it'd be nice if a higher priority was given to players who appreciate a particular piece of armour for its core design rather than those who want to have a go at splattering a different colour all over it.

[LeCard]

Having the AF gear being undyeable would be fine by me. It is the Iconic class gear for the game and as such it is easier to put them in marketing when they have only one color.

 

However, the rest of the gear is just gear, and as such should be dyeable. I don't mind the way the dyeing system works right now, but being able to dye some of the cooler looking gear so that I'm not one of a sea of many would be awesome.

[Grott]

Well, that pretty much refutes every argument against dyeable AF gear ever made.

 

 

That's a pretty broad statement. Black Mage gear, while neat looking, isn't that iconic. Vivi's gear from FFIX is the more iconic Black Mage look for the series in my opinion. Regardless, paladin gear is almost always white, dragoon gear is almost always a dark violet/midnight blue. Plus, I'll use dragoon as an example because it's the class I know the most about, the drachenmail armor is essentially a religious artifact for the people of Ishgard. Being able to dye it just seems wrong from a lore standpoint. I'm all for dying anything you want as long as it isn't AF. For every class the AF is supposed to be an honor to have and it doesn't make much sense to me IC or OOC to just start slapping other colors on there. That's just me, but I wouldn't want to see it. Plus we already have the ability to stick a Free Company logo on the AF.

 

Dye whatever you want, but lets leave the iconic sets iconic. Don't ruin the classics. It's like turning Led Zeppelin's Kashmir into Puff Daddy's Come With Me. It might feel like an awesome new spin on something familiar and well-known at the time, but in the end it's pretty awful and everyone just kind of wishes it never happened.

 

Of course this is strictly my opinion, and people will disagree, but I'm just throwing it out there.

[Naunet]

I couldn't really care less about how "iconic" something is - not when the choice is between preserving some subjective "This is how it should BE!" want from FF fans (who, as someone who has not played a single FF game prior to this, come off as incredibly religious in their, uh, devotion - and about pretty odd things in my perspective) and between giving players options for their appearance.

 

You don't have to dye it if you want that "iconic" look. Others should have that choice.

[IncubusManatee]

Prepare to Dye!

 

 

My feeling on all of this is that people should be able to design their color schemes however they want. So the purists can keep their original designs and the creationists can make whatever they want. 

 

Gotta have some variety. It may be lore-breaking, but it also gives room for some interesting RP.

 

A monk who has fought so much that his original yellow robe's have become a mottled red from all the blood, dirt and sweat they've been exposed to through the year's. Just as an example.

[Dravus]

I couldn't really care less about how "iconic" something is - not when the choice is between preserving some subjective "This is how it should BE!" want from FF fans (who, as someone who has not played a single FF game prior to this, come off as incredibly religious in their, uh, devotion - and about pretty odd things in my perspective) and between giving players options for their appearance.

 

You don't have to dye it if you want that "iconic" look. Others should have that choice.

 

The preservation of iconic themes is important in an MMO that draws a lot of fans from the single player games. There's quite a lot of things present in the game that are either recurring themes in the series or affectionate references to past titles. I think it's pretty telling in itself that the game didn't launch with the option to dye the armour sets in question whilst pretty much every other piece of gear - bar a few exceptions - can be altered. That makes me assume it's an intentional move, so perhaps instead of people requesting for it to be changed they should accept that not everything needs to have customisation options to appease them?

[Naunet]

That makes me assume it's an intentional move, so perhaps instead of people requesting for it to be changed they should accept that not everything needs to have customisation options to appease them?

 

I appreciate the idea behind wanting something to remain "iconic", but honestly, this isn't a single-player RPG and therefor it should not be treated as such. Individuality is absolutely essential in an MMO. Do you really want to look just like everyone else? Honestly, I haven't even gotten my AF yet, and I'm already tired of the look, because you see it everywhere and it always looks exactly the same. At least being able to dye dungeon sets and other things like this would give armor some creative life. There's precious little armor variety in this game as it is.

[Gimlette]

hmmmm

 

K...so i could go both ways on this.  Iconic af armor RAWR!...but...I'd be lying if i'm not just a /little/ bit curious what monk af would look like in that lovely shade of bluegreen that matches Desi's eyes.

 

That being said...frankly, if its not AF.......i think it should be dye-able...if its not, well, the rest of your outfit /is/...so make it match?  I think people are making entirely too big a deal about this.  Its the starting stages of the game (sorta?)...There will be more variety eventually as far as how armor looks, there always is.  

 

Of course i'd like to see some of the more dynamic looking armor pieces that drop in dungeons be dye-able...and perhaps the developers will listen to their audience and do so...but i think its a bit early in the game to get too bent out of shape over it.