nariko Posted February 3, 2014 Share #1 Posted February 3, 2014 [align=center] Feburary 15th 12pm PST | 3pm EST | 8pm GMT Sargatanas | Mists | Ward 1 | Plot 6 *Welcoming players from all servers* [/align] Looking for love this Valentione's Day season? Welcome to Love Love Star Maid Cafe a player ran FFXIV event. Love Love Star Maid Cafe invites all Masters and Mistresses of Eorzea for a celebration of love. Located on the Sargatanas FFXIV server, the Love Love Star Maid Cafe (Star Villa) sits beautifully next to the sea surrounded by lush vegetation and the scenic Mist Beach view. The Star Villa has been carefully re-decorated for this event transforming it into a love-themed maid cafe setting welcome to any visitors for the event. [align=center]Location Sargatanas | Mists | Ward 1 | Plot 6 The Star Villa will be closed to the public from Feburary 7th - 13th for renovations for the event. The Villa will re-open at 12pm PST on Feburary 15th for the cafe event. [/align] Entrance to the Love Love Star Maid Cafe is free to all Masters & Mistresses. Love Love Star Maid Cafe is a non-profit event, but we do charge for our one-on-one maid time & food service, 100% of the proceeds go into our prize giveaway! For those who are unable to make it to Sargatanas for the event we will be streaming the event via Twitch @ http://www.twitch.tv/kaiyokostar Masters and Mistresses who would like to stream are more than welcome to stream their experience themselves! [align=center] Official FFXIV Love Love Star Maid Cafe Thread [/align] Link to comment
LiadansWhisper Posted February 3, 2014 Share #2 Posted February 3, 2014 After reading the thread attached to this one, I have a question... Why does it matter what RL gender the Hosts and the Hostesses are? Link to comment
Faye Posted February 3, 2014 Share #3 Posted February 3, 2014 After reading the thread attached to this one, I have a question... Why does it matter what RL gender the Hosts and the Hostesses are? I second that. It's... questionable. Makes it seem like something more than an RP event; no bueno. Link to comment
Dat Oni Posted February 3, 2014 Share #4 Posted February 3, 2014 After reading the thread attached to this one, I have a question... Why does it matter what RL gender the Hosts and the Hostesses are? I may be a guy, but I'm damn sure I could make a good meido if I tried! Link to comment
Faye Posted February 3, 2014 Share #5 Posted February 3, 2014 After reading the thread attached to this one, I have a question... Why does it matter what RL gender the Hosts and the Hostesses are? I may be a guy, but I'm damn sure I could make a good meido if I tried! S-senpai... Link to comment
Cheezie Posted February 3, 2014 Share #6 Posted February 3, 2014 I was going to put this on here for you Nariko lol Link to comment
LiadansWhisper Posted February 3, 2014 Share #7 Posted February 3, 2014 I was going to put this on here for you Nariko lol Maybe you could explain, then? >.> Link to comment
synaesthetic Posted February 3, 2014 Share #8 Posted February 3, 2014 After reading the thread attached to this one, I have a question... Why does it matter what RL gender the Hosts and the Hostesses are? The only reason I can possibly think of why someone would mention this is if they're not-so-subtly trying to encourage or permit ERP. Link to comment
LiadansWhisper Posted February 3, 2014 Share #9 Posted February 3, 2014 After reading the thread attached to this one, I have a question... Why does it matter what RL gender the Hosts and the Hostesses are? The only reason I can possibly think of why someone would mention this is if they're not-so-subtly trying to encourage or permit ERP. They're advertising it to the general public, and Sargantas (sp?) isn't an RP server to my knowledge. But yeah, that's exactly what the post seems to indicate from my perspective. But ERP isn't the issue here. If you care about the RL Gender of the person you're RPing with, it's not really RP. >.> At least in my opinion. Link to comment
Xydane Vale Posted February 3, 2014 Share #10 Posted February 3, 2014 One post without a response? Clearly you all can tell that this is a spammin' scammin' thread? *Waits for Mods to do their magic* Link to comment
synaesthetic Posted February 4, 2014 Share #11 Posted February 4, 2014 It's not a scam, but it probably is spam. I saw the thread on the official forums, and it's on Sarganatas, not Balmung or Gilgamesh. Link to comment
FreelanceWizard Posted February 4, 2014 Share #12 Posted February 4, 2014 It's said to be an RP event, and hey, I'm sure there's RPers on Sargatanas. If they'd like to advertise their event here with a one-shot post, I'm fine with it, personally. Link to comment
LiadansWhisper Posted February 4, 2014 Share #13 Posted February 4, 2014 It's said to be an RP event, and hey, I'm sure there's RPers on Sargatanas. If they'd like to advertise their event here with a one-shot post, I'm fine with it, personally. Mmm. Any event that has to verify the RL genders of the players isn't an RP event. At least not in my book. But, that's just my opinion! Link to comment
Oli! Posted February 4, 2014 Share #14 Posted February 4, 2014 I can only speculate, but considering the nature of the event, the fact that the event is on a non-RP server and is welcoming to all players (and not just those who RP), and is not (at least where I can see) explicitly stated as being an RP event (just that it could be if people wanted to show up and RP there), the reason for the gender confirmation would be for those who do not RP and are looking for companionship of some sort, would be my guess. Which wouldn't be a bad thing at all, I don't think. Link to comment
Rinette Posted February 4, 2014 Share #15 Posted February 4, 2014 I'm surprised no one as mentioned that you can buy one on one time with the hosts and maids for gil or that they are referring to everyone as "masters and mistresses". That gives off ERP vibes to me. It's nice to see that there are RPers on other realms aside from Balmung and Gilgamesh but, in my opinion, it's events like these that give RPers bad names. A massage shop with happy ending options would be more subtle than this. Link to comment
LiadansWhisper Posted February 4, 2014 Share #16 Posted February 4, 2014 I'm surprised no one as mentioned that you can buy one on one time with the hosts and maids for gil or that they are referring to everyone as "masters and mistresses". That gives off ERP vibes to me. It's nice to see that there are RPers on other realms aside from Balmung and Gilgamesh but, in my opinion, it's events like these that give RPers bad names. A massage shop with happy ending options would be more subtle than this. I didn't catch the gil part, but yeah, they're calling everyone Master or Mistress (emphasis on the capitalization, btw). This isn't RP, or even ERP. It's basically cyber...they have clubs like this in Second Life, too. lol Link to comment
Almil Posted February 4, 2014 Share #17 Posted February 4, 2014 ^ Yup I was surprised that they have prices listed, and I assume it's real gil and not the RP kind. However I was too lazy to go read the thread on the official forums to see how it was mentioned which sex the player needs to be IRL. Link to comment
Oli! Posted February 4, 2014 Share #18 Posted February 4, 2014 Quoted from an organizer on the third page of the original thread: While we have not finalized our Rules & Guidelines as of yet-- when we do please refer to this post we've already reserved. We will be taking extreme actions when it comes to ANY type of explicit sexual conduct. We're completely fine with flirtatious and innocent displays of affections. But we do not condone or support any sort of explicit cybering or player harassment. We will be following FFXIVs ToS when it comes to harassment for not only our Maids & Hosts but also our Masters and Mistresses. Thank you for your concerns ~Nari Come on guys, let's at least give them the benefit of the doubt here, no need to dismiss it without so much as a 'good luck.' 1 Link to comment
LiadansWhisper Posted February 4, 2014 Share #19 Posted February 4, 2014 Come on guys, let's at least give them the benefit of the doubt here, no need to dismiss it without so much as a 'good luck.' Sorry. Any time verification of RL gender is "necessary" for an "RP" event, it's not RP. RL Gender should have absolutely nothing to do with an RP event. And if they're so concerned about protecting the workers from player harassment, they would never be verifying their RL gender in the first place. That's a huuuuuuuuge opening for harassment. 1 Link to comment
Rinette Posted February 4, 2014 Share #20 Posted February 4, 2014 I didn't catch the gil part, but yeah, they're calling everyone Master or Mistress (emphasis on the capitalization, btw). This isn't RP, or even ERP. It's basically cyber...they have clubs like this in Second Life, too. lol It's in the second post on the official forum. 3,000 gil gets you 10 minutes with a maid/host who is readily available and 5,000 for a maid/host of your choice. They should've just followed the trend of date auctions. Link to comment
Oli! Posted February 4, 2014 Share #21 Posted February 4, 2014 Come on guys, let's at least give them the benefit of the doubt here, no need to dismiss it without so much as a 'good luck.' Sorry. Any time verification of RL gender is "necessary" for an "RP" event, it's not RP. RL Gender should have absolutely nothing to do with an RP event. And if they're so concerned about protecting the workers from player harassment, they would never be verifying their RL gender in the first place. That's a huuuuuuuuge opening for harassment. As far as what I can see in the posts, nowhere does it say it's an RP event. It looks like it's open to people of all servers and play-types. It's fine if you don't want to go (and honestly, it's not my type of thing either), but seeing as it's quite clear that they put quite a bit of time and thought into constructing an event the way they want to, I think it would be nice to at least respect what they're doing here. As for the gender thing, I'll just post in this comment what I thought earlier. I can only speculate, but considering the nature of the event, the fact that the event is on a non-RP server and is welcoming to all players (and not just those who RP), and is not (at least where I can see) explicitly stated as being an RP event (just that it could be if people wanted to show up and RP there), the reason for the gender confirmation would be for those who do not RP and are looking for companionship of some sort, would be my guess. Which wouldn't be a bad thing at all, I don't think. That's all I'll say on it, really. EDIT: As an afterthought, on the flipside, it could also simply be because providing someone's real gender would provide the necessary OOC buffer needed to prevent people getting too far into things, which could be uncomfortable for those who are hosting the event. So I suppose either possibility would be applicable and appropriate. Link to comment
Dravus Posted February 4, 2014 Share #22 Posted February 4, 2014 It's said to be an RP event, and hey, I'm sure there's RPers on Sargatanas. If they'd like to advertise their event here with a one-shot post, I'm fine with it, personally. Mmm. Any event that has to verify the RL genders of the players isn't an RP event. At least not in my book. But, that's just my opinion! If nothing else I think it's well worth advising those interested to be cautious. As much as I'd love to give people the benefit of the doubt the grim reality is that a lot of shady stuff goes on in MMO's. Across a number of MMO's I've unfortunately witnessed a lot of these seemingly innocent events end up being revealed as cleverly disguised attempts to lure people into engaging in ERP. Now, ERP itself isn't something I'm necessarily against provided it's between consenting individuals of an appropriate age and level of maturity. It is, however, something that really doesn't need to go beyond the game itself. There's no shortage of potential for drama that can turn very nasty pretty fast. Hopefully it all turns out well and everyone who attends has an enjoyable and drama free experience, though! Link to comment
LiadansWhisper Posted February 4, 2014 Share #23 Posted February 4, 2014 EDIT: As an afterthought, on the flipside, it could also simply be because providing someone's real gender would provide the necessary OOC buffer needed to prevent people getting too far into things, which could be uncomfortable for those who are hosting the event. So I suppose either possibility would be applicable and appropriate. I'll be honest...I have no idea how this could act as a buffer to such a thing when they specifically say the Hosts and Hostesses have "no preference" as to gender. Link to comment
E'zentsa Posted February 4, 2014 Share #24 Posted February 4, 2014 I'm surprised no one as mentioned that you can buy one on one time with the hosts and maids for gil or that they are referring to everyone as "masters and mistresses". That gives off ERP vibes to me. It's nice to see that there are RPers on other realms aside from Balmung and Gilgamesh but, in my opinion, it's events like these that give RPers bad names. A massage shop with happy ending options would be more subtle than this. I have to disagree. Calling people mistress and master isn't ERP at at all in fact it is proper for a maid to reply to the person she is serving mistress/master. There are several on Balmung that call the people they work for mater but don't ERP. ...Including myself.. Link to comment
LiadansWhisper Posted February 4, 2014 Share #25 Posted February 4, 2014 I have to disagree. Calling people mistress and master isn't ERP at at all in fact it is proper for a maid to reply to the person she is serving mistress/master. There are several on Balmung that call the people they work for mater but don't ERP. ...Including myself.. It's less to do with master/mistress and more to do with Master/Mistress. I'm really not sure how to get any clearer than that without being explicit. Link to comment
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