Character from the Far East?

[Kamome]

I'm assuming there is a reason Yugiri has to keep herself covered up even in the company of her Doman compatriots.

 

She dresses that way for two reasons. One being an entirely game related design flaw, they introduced her long before they had a model to represent her, so they just used a Miqo'te female and slapped on a custom made set of gear and scaly tail to show she wasn't a Hyur. She more or less states the reason she dresses like that though is because it's customary for Ninjas, it has nothing to do with her race as some people here seem to believe... she has a freaking scaled tail and horns protruding through her hood, she isn't fooling anyone I don't care how Ninja she is.

 

Oh. That makes more sense now... Hm, I wonder how common Au Ra are in Doma... Isn't Dravania geographically on the other side of Ishgard, pretty far west?

[Havoc Snow]

I'm assuming there is a reason Yugiri has to keep herself covered up even in the company of her Doman compatriots.

 

She dresses that way for two reasons. One being an entirely game related design flaw, they introduced her long before they had a model to represent her, so they just used a Miqo'te female and slapped on a custom made set of gear and scaly tail to show she wasn't a Hyur. She more or less states the reason she dresses like that though is because it's customary for Ninjas, it has nothing to do with her race as some people here seem to believe... she has a freaking scaled tail and horns protruding through her hood, she isn't fooling anyone I don't care how Ninja she is.

 

Oh. That makes more sense now... Hm, I wonder how common Au Ra are in Doma... Isn't Dravania geographically on the other side of Ishgard, pretty far west?

Dravania is the Northern most point of Aldenard, taking up the entire north western section of the map. Ishgard I believe sits right at the very edge of their borders.

 

As far as Au Ra go, we won't know at least until March, though very well may not be until the expansion comes, or they at least start dropping all the lore details for it. The only thing they have said so far as that Au Ra come from Othard, the continent where Doma is located. We know they will lively be split into two clans (the two sets of models they showed thus far) so maybe only one of the Clans will be from Doma and the other another part of Othard.

 

One thing I do remember is that Eozea is the smallest of the three continents, and as we see with the residents of Eorzea they don't live in just one place, all of the races are spread out pretty heavily all over the place. With that in mind it's also very likely that since they said they come from Othard, and not just Doma specifically it's more likely that the Au Ra are heavily spread out across the continent.

[Warren Castille]

I'm assuming there is a reason Yugiri has to keep herself covered up even in the company of her Doman compatriots.

 

She dresses that way for two reasons. One being an entirely game related design flaw, they introduced her long before they had a model to represent her, so they just used a Miqo'te female and slapped on a custom made set of gear and scaly tail to show she wasn't a Hyur. She more or less states the reason she dresses like that though is because it's customary for Ninjas, it has nothing to do with her race as some people here seem to believe... she has a freaking scaled tail and horns protruding through her hood, she isn't fooling anyone I don't care how Ninja she is.

 

That's not exactly it, either. She outright tells you she has to hide her appearance because (something akin to) "My kind aren't known here and I don't want to cause any undue distractions or problems." Au Ra aren't currently in Eorzea, and she knows it, so she's trying to not make headline news when a new species of Beastman arrives.

[Havoc Snow]

I'm assuming there is a reason Yugiri has to keep herself covered up even in the company of her Doman compatriots.

 

She dresses that way for two reasons. One being an entirely game related design flaw, they introduced her long before they had a model to represent her, so they just used a Miqo'te female and slapped on a custom made set of gear and scaly tail to show she wasn't a Hyur. She more or less states the reason she dresses like that though is because it's customary for Ninjas, it has nothing to do with her race as some people here seem to believe... she has a freaking scaled tail and horns protruding through her hood, she isn't fooling anyone I don't care how Ninja she is.

 

That's not exactly it, either. She outright tells you she has to hide her appearance because (something akin to) "My kind aren't known here and I don't want to cause any undue distractions or problems." Au Ra aren't currently in Eorzea, and she knows it, so she's trying to not make headline news when a new species of Beastman arrives.

I don't think she would ever be mistaken for a Beastmen, I don't even think she knew what a Beastmen was until she got here since that is a Garlean term most people just picked up. The reasoning behind it is more just what you first said, not wanting to make headline news. She's a Ninja, and her role in the story is to be a spy and a saboteur. It would be hard to fill those roles if everyone and their mother was talking about a Dragon lady walking around.

[Kamome]

Oh, had another thought re: the Doman language.

 

Maybe the language really has phased out/become archaic judging by the NPC surnames we see in the Ninja quest: Moonrise, Sunrise, Redbeak, etc. I feel the fact that Domans seem to have surnames in line with the language of the rest of Hydaelyn shows at least some distance from the Doman native language, even though all of their forenames are Doman (at least from what I have seen).

 

Are there any NPC examples of Domans with actual Doman or Japanese surnames?

[Havoc Snow]

Oh, had another thought re: the Doman language.

 

Maybe the language really has phased out/become archaic judging by the NPC surnames we see in the Ninja quest: Moonrise, Sunrise, Redbeak, etc. I feel the fact that Domans seem to have surnames in line with the language of the rest of Hydaelyn shows at least some distance from the Doman native language, even though all of their forenames are Doman (at least from what I have seen).

 

Are there any NPC examples of Domans with actual Doman or Japanese surnames?

This may not merely be a depature from Doman language, and just simply how the Doman naming conventions have always been. While Doma is quite obviously based on Japan, it is not actually Japan so they are free to deviate from actual Japanese historical or cultural things such as naming.

[Warren Castille]

There are some fairly Japanese-sounding names in the 2.2 content: You run into Yozan, Houzan, Houmei, not to mention Yugiri herself.

 

I learned this by digging through XIVDB's quest dialogue, looking for the line where Yugiri specifically states why she keeps covered up.

[Havoc Snow]

There are some fairly Japanese-sounding names in the 2.2 content: You run into Yozan, Houzan, Houmei, not to mention Yugiri herself.

 

I learned this by digging through XIVDB's quest dialogue, looking for the line where Yugiri specifically states why she keeps covered up.

I think he might have meant last name, not surname. Like Yugiri Mistwalker, Oboro Moonrise, Karasu Redbeak.

[Warren Castille]

...Look, everyone knows I can't read.

[Havoc Snow]

...Look, everyone knows I can't read.

Nah you read it fine, I had to make sure of it myself. He said surname, but I think what he meant to say was last name.

 

From what I can see the naming conventions for Doman characters seems to be a Japanese style surname, and then a sort of honorific type last name, like the examples listed above. These my be something more like a title than an actual last name, such as calling Tsubame and Oboro the Sun and Moon to one another.

[Sounsyy]

Are there any NPC examples of Domans with actual Doman or Japanese surnames?

 

I can't think of any off-hand, no. The Doman/Othardian naming conventions seem to be Japanese-sounding forename, adjective/noun combined surname.

 

Karasu Redbeak

Yamimi Farwalker

Oboro Moonrise

[Havoc Snow]

Ugh, please excuse my stupidity. Kamome was right about the non-asian surname I was just confusing the word for given name. So yes, Doman appear to have a Japanese-style forename and some type of title as their surname.

[Warren Castille]

Found it.

 

 

[video=youtube]

 

 

It's not as overt as I recalled, but she's clearly referring to her appearance being problematic. It's got nothing to do with her garb itself (and we see what Ninja usually wear when we do the Ninja quests).

[Havoc Snow]

Found it.

 

 

[video=youtube]

 

 

 

It's not as overt as I recalled, but she's clearly referring to her appearance being problematic. It's got nothing to do with her garb itself (and we see what Ninja usually wear when we do the Ninja quests).

The video is almost 2 hours long, do you remember where in it she talks about the way she dresses?

[Warren Castille]

Balls, thought it captured the minute:second. Editiiiiiing.

 

Edited. If that still doesn't work, right at the 25 minute mark should work.

[Havoc Snow]

Balls, thought it captured the minute:second. Editiiiiiing.

 

Edited. If that still doesn't work, right at the 25 minute mark should work.

Yeah I found it after a bit of skipping, so yeah she really doesn't say it has anything to do with her being a Ninja or her race. She just basically says people are afraid of what is unfamiliar so she hid her appearance to not cause any disturbances.

 

Edit: To quote it exactly for those who can't view youtube atm.

 

Alphinaud: Lady Yugiri, forgive me for observing, but... your choice of attire seems like to evoke feelings of mistrust.

 

Yugiri: Men are wont to fear the unfamiliar. We know this from experience. We seek only to spare the people of Ul'dah unnecessary disquiet.

 

Alphinaud: I shall defer to your experience then.

 

Yugiri: I thank you for your understanding.

[Kamome]

*lore clarity glowwwww*

 

Thanks for entertaining all the questions! Especially re: the names. And yes, surname = last name. ; )

 

Can't wait for the expansion lore bombs. Hopefully if all the new Far Eastern crafting items are any indication we will get some more Doma lore, too.

[Havoc Snow]

So one connection I know that exists is the name Doma coming from Doma Castle in FFVI. I wonder if RT is eventually going to some how turn into Doma Castle with how it's building up over time and the Doman influence is starting to take more root. Also the fact that in FFVI Doma Castle opposed the Gestahlian Empire and was wiped out in response.