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I just had a thought. Is it ever explicitly stated that that Ishgardians are natively Elezen and don't like, or natively include, Miqo'te and/or Lalafell...? Because I don't personally remember race ever being brought up in regards to any of the nations, not even for Gridania. Instead what's stated is they don't like 'outsiders' and it seems as a player base we've made an assumption that that means 'race' when actually... it just means people who aren't from Ishgard/Gridania. It doesn't matter if you're Elezen, Roe, Hyur if you're not from Ishgard they don't like you. Are we just concluding that there's no Miqo'te Ishgardians because we've not had it confirmed yet? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't have the best memory, I just get a feeling there's some assumption about race discrimination (as I mentioned earlier in the thread this is more common in other games such as XI) when, as far as I recall, race is rarely if ever brought up as being an issue. It's one of the things I like about this game. Also, I've never unlocked Dragoon so I might sound quite stupid but why is a Miqo'te Dragoon consistently being cited as implausible? The game lets you do it, so how is it explained when you unlock it? You don't need to go to Ishgard to be a Dragoon I'd have thought..?

That's an interesting take on it. I kind of like it. There's one small caveat, though: We don't pick being from anywhere in the game, as we all arrive from parts unknown when we begin. Hmm good point, to be honest I'd forgotten about that, I just remembered that my profile lists my 'city-state' as Ul'dah. So I guess wherever I might have been from, I'm supposed to be from there now. That always sort of confused me, how much prominence where you start was meant to have. But then I suppose it just further backs up that the devs are intentionally making it so you can be anyone, from anywhere. For the most part I agree with Hammersmith. At the end of the day we're all playing for fun and if you'd rather be a jerk to someone because of their character than just shrug it off and move on, it's really just you who has a problem, not the vampire witch mary-sue. I'm sure we can all find a way to get along!

*I'm a newbie to roleplaying and this site in general so forgive me if I sound ignorant* To me two different ideas seem to be conflated here. 1) stories that we 'make up' about our characters (ie they're Doman, Garlean) 2) Things that are an actual fact and possible to do within the game (ie a Miqo'te Dragoon) Honestly, I'm of the opinion that if the game lets you do it, then it IS within the lore. You CAN be a Miqo'te Dragoon; the game doesn't gate you from doing that. However you CANNOT be Doman - you're given the choice of 3 city states to hail from. Sounsyy is spot on and this touches on what I feel is markedly different about XIV compared to most other MMO's. It's a very multicultural MMO and we don't bat an eyelid if we see an Roegadyn Garlean or a Lalafellin Doman. I've always, personally, felt it went without saying that the races are all pretty well-spread, even if there's a 'majority' (eg Roe's in Limsa) you still see a pretty good mix. I played XI for a long time and it was very far removed from this - you'd never see Elezen's hanging out in Windurst like it was nothing! But XIV is not like that at all and honestly, I think the race's lore/background is fairly weak and malleable, so people can 'be' whatever they want. Also as pointed out we don't really know enough about Ala Mhigo/Domans/Garleans to truly say what is lore-breaking and what isn't. So I'm of the opinion that if we don't know, it doesn't bother me. It would seem that the only way to keep everyone ELSE happy and not try to make your character too 'lore breaking', conflict with others OR seem too 'super special unique' would be for everyone to have characters as dull as dishwater, and obviously that is not going to happen. I mean, it's funny coming from me because my character IS pretty boring and has no special background or powers, but I would wager to say most people like to have something special about them. So RPing seems like a bit of a paradox in itself, you're always going to have these issues, but anyway, I digress.

Wonderful to have more EU timed events. I'll tentatively say I'll be there, since I'm not sure if I'm busy that weekend or not.

I'm an expert in wearing pretty dresses so I'm very much prepared for this!

Milly is going to be there, provided she can find some appropriate walking shoes!