Flying Mounts and You

[K'nahli]

I have been curious about this for a while now.

 

How many of you will be utilizing flying mounts of some description?

How many of you will be accepting flying chocobo as canon and lore-friendly(in the ARR universe)?

And finally, how many people who said yes to either of the above will be independently flying to your heart's content in pre-existing areas?

 

So for instance, hopping on your chocobo just outside the gates of Ul'dah and just taking off to the skies.

[Gegenji]

A flying chocobo has been in several Final Fantasy games before - FF4, FF5 (I believe), and FFT are the ones that immediately come to mind. So, there's nothing lore-breaking about a flying Chocobo, even if the wing sizes make it seem unfeasible.

 

If there comes a reason IC for any of my characters to use a flying mount, they will use it. OOCly? Riding that Fat Chocobo all over in the air once it's learned how to. :lol:

[Steel Wolf]

Once realm-wide flight is available (if ever), I wholly plan to flutter about like a leaf on the wind.

 

A really tall leaf.

 

IC'ly, though, I kinda laugh at the idea of Steel being completely terrified of flight, so she'll likely be mounting one of the more "substantial" mounts until such time as she can afford (*snerk* yaright) or build (pffttt bahahahahaha) her own airship.

[Brynhilde]

I WANT MY GRIFFIN. Oh man. I am so hoping it's connected to Ala Mhigo.

 

And I know it's going to be lore friendly and has been in previous games, but from an anatomical standpoint there's no way a creature like the Chocobo could fly. Let alone the fat 'Bo. so I guess it's just another thing to hand wave, although it will quietly bother me.

[Martiallais]

I actually want a griffin for Martiallais, while Zarek's never been a fan of flying so like Steel he'll probably go for something big. I'm thinking a dragon or the like.

 

And clearly the fat chocos are flying by, wait for it....

 

[Gegenji]

They stole fizzy lifting drinks!

 

... That or they want that cake SO MUCH that they defy physics to get to it.

 

Also, I'm mildly curious about the designs for the personal airships and such. Those count as flying mounts, right? Because I could totally see Judge riding around on one of those looking all stern.

[Telluride]

1)How many of you will be utilizing flying mounts of some description?

 

I preordered to get my griffin. I have no reason to use that boring chocobo except that it is a fighting companion. If SE would let other mounts be fighting companions (for which there is little excuse not to to except for SE's love of the birds mimicking the cliche' of Germans loving David Hasslehoff), I'd never use the chocobo again. EVER.

 

2) How many of you will be accepting flying chocobo as canon and lore-friendly?

 

With those tiny wings? Never. But considering that SE was showcasing a flying FAT CHOCOBO in their Heavensward Live Feed, it seems they care more about their trademark birds than they do in... well... even FANTASY PHYSICS. But, if it's not obvious, I am not nor have ever really been a fan of Chocobos, period.

 

3) And finally, how many people who said yes to either of the above will be independently flying to your heart's content in pre-existing areas?

 

Are they going to LET us fly in pre-existing areas? I thought flight was only for the new areas, so people who paid for the new content couldn't be elitist and do fly-by poops over those who didn't.

[Cliodhna Eoghan]

sooo sooo sooo soo freaking excited for the hanger and personal airship building!!!! clio will have her own of course and use it on a frequent basis....habanero will still be on the ground stuff (cause he's dapper) but given that clio already flies airships ic (even if it is just pretendies as we play pretendies ) it'll be nice to finally have some proper props. x3 ....ooc i'll probably use the other flying ones i have just for fun when i feel like it.

[Martiallais]

3) And finally, how many people who said yes to either of the above will be independently flying to your heart's content in pre-existing areas?

 

Are they going to LET us fly in pre-existing areas? I thought flight was only for the new areas, so people who paid for the new content couldn't be elitist and do fly-by poops over those who didn't.

 

It's only the new areas right now but they mentioned that it could be something to come later, I think?

[K'nahli]

I apologise if it's technically lore-friendly for them to fly then ^^  I just never heard of anyone flying so far, and though I don't doubt people do in their personal RP's, I had a feeling that chocobo flying cases were certainly few and far between.

 

As such, I was wondering how many people were going to suddenly start... because I'm sure they will!

 

 

Edit:

I love the excessive hype I am seeing in this thread, hahahaha

[shotgunbadger]

Yea Chocobos can fly according to multiple past games, if it was me I'd rather something like a griffon be my main source of air travel just because I don't trust them stubby wings, but nothing lore breaking to worry about there!

[Gegenji]

I apologise if it's technically lore-friendly for them to fly then ^^  I just never heard of anyone flying so far, and though I don't doubt people do in their personal RP's, I had a feeling that chocobo flying cases were certainly few and far between.

 

In all cases, it was a rare Black Chocobo that was able to fly. In FF4, you actually had to use it to reach... the Magnetic Cave, I believe, since airships can't land on forest tiles. FF4 had a lot of vehicles, though - two airships, a spaceship, a hovercraft, the black chocobo, and you could always find a regular chocobo to ride too. I also believe this is where the White Chocobo was introduced as the healing chocobo, too, as a fun extra choco-fact!

 

I believe there was a Black Chocobo in FF5 as well, but for the life of me I can't remember exactly what it was used for. I haven't played it nearly enough to commit specific scenes to memory. All I have is a vague nagging feeling that there is one in there somewhere.

 

FFT, though, the Black Chocobo was the only one of the three - Regular, Black, and Red - that could fly. While the Red was technically the "better" Chocobo due to being the third tier and having Choco Meteor to wreck face, it still could only run around and jump like the rest of the plebs. And, since you could ride Chocobos in combat, sometimes it's just nicer being able to just ignore the terrain and take your double-punching Ninja right to your target of choice.

 

Now that I think about it, I think your Chocobo in FF9 could "travel to the sky" too, but I don't quite remember if it actually flew up there to do Chocobo Hot and Cold amongst the clouds or if there was another method.

 

The only other case of a Black Chocobo that I can recall offhand was the Mountain-and-River Chocobo used in the second to last step to make the Gold. And also as Teioh (I think that's its name?), that jerk bird at the Saucer who always has higher stats than yours.

 

This has been Horsebird History with Gegenji. :lol:

 

EDIT: Black Chocobos! Apparently they were a cosmetic color option in FFXI, too, and provided a couple crystal shards along with its normal flying purpose in FF5! I knew I remembered them being in that one! Also, apparently they show up as flying burds in FFTA2, as well - a game I only vaguely remember playing once or twice, and am not even sure I beat it. >>

[Flickering Ember]

I have been curious about this for a while now.

 

 

So for instance, hopping on your chocobo just outside the gates of Ul'dah and just taking off to the skies.

I think you can only fly in Heavensward content. So the new zones, I think.

 

As for flying mounts, I don't like the chocobos much for flying. It is a little silly. But I will accept it as magic I guess. Chocobos could have a natural affinity with nature magic. 

 

....

I know. I am stretching. >_<

 

Does anyone know if CE digital is still available? I really want the dragon but I'd take anything over a black chocobo....>_> Sorry black chocobo fans...

[Steel Wolf]

Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Fat Bo sprouted giant, glowing gold wings of majesty due to the sheer force of want for that delicious, moist cake?

 

Yes, I know it's not actually happening, but I can dream.

[Telluride]

I apologise if it's technically lore-friendly for them to fly then ^^  I just never heard of anyone flying so far, and though I don't doubt people do in their personal RP's, I had a feeling that chocobo flying cases were certainly few and far between.

 

(snip)

 

This has been Horsebird History with Gegenji. :lol:

 

Gold Chocobo. Knights of the Round.

[KHMarie]

Serylda has a very slight fear of heights, that she deals with but still can get the better of her depending on the situation. I can't help but feel she won't handle flying mounts very well at first, but will probably force herself to adjust.

 

Just like someone else said, I think the bigger the better. As long as she can't see the grown below, she generally won't get anxious.

[Aris]

To me it seems (realistically) that it would take a lot of training and require safety gear and little bits and pieces like that to be able to use one? I'm interested to see how people will go about it if they do have their OC flying around.

 

As flying in pre-existing areas isn't allowed at the moment, it might be that the chocobo in those areas aren't trained, or it is only allowed around Ishgard because of necessity to get to surrounding areas? Can't wait to see the lore presented in-game.

 

I certainly accept some flying mounts (sorry fat chocobo), but personally my characters won't be using them any time soon - plus Nara is an engineer, so she's an airship lass through and through.

[Gegenji]

I apologise if it's technically lore-friendly for them to fly then ^^  I just never heard of anyone flying so far, and though I don't doubt people do in their personal RP's, I had a feeling that chocobo flying cases were certainly few and far between.

 

(snip)

 

This has been Horsebird History with Gegenji. :lol:

 

Gold Chocobo. Knights of the Round.

 

Well, technically none of the Chocobos in FF7 flew. Just specified what they could run over. The Black Chocobo, as mentioned, was the Mountain-and-River Chocobo that could run over, well, mountains and rivers. Breeding one with a Great Chocobo (a regular Chocobo that was rated "Great," caught usually up in the snowy areas, I think?) would result in the Gold Chocobo, aka the Ocean Chocobo. Which, since it could actually run over oceans, could get you to that cave with Knights of the Round.

 

Which, now that I think about it, is a bit of an oddity. The whole thing about Black Chocobos in FF4 and FF5 was that mountains were the one thing they couldn't fly over, which is why they could never fully replace airships (and, in FF4 definitely, they could only land in forests).

[Mercurias]

My alt is a pilot. He's going to be flying stuff.

 

I personally probably won't, say, make him have all six ponies he can summon with whistles, or the Kirin mount, but he's going to have a personal flight mechanism, and when he gets it, he's rarely going to touch the ground again because he loves to fly. Personally, my ultimate goal for him is the one-or-two person airship.

[K'nahli]

I have been curious about this for a while now.

 

 

So for instance, hopping on your chocobo just outside the gates of Ul'dah and just taking off to the skies.

I think you can only fly in Heavensward content. So the new zones, I think.

 

 

I am speaking explicitly from an RP lore standpoint though. Many people are content to accept what they see in-game as something that is legitimately canon and to be taken at face value, and while I am not suggesting that it's impossible for that to be the case, I just personally didn't imagine it to be normal for chocobo to fly.

 

And so I was wondering, out of the many people whom I assume own personal chocobo, how many of them will decide they can suddenly fly and be bringing that aspect into ARR area RP? Will many chocobo suddenly be seen flying around as though it were an unordinary sight?

 

(You might be asking what the difference is between a flying chocobo in Ul'dah and Ishgard though honestly I guess it's just that I might see more leniency with the latter since it was never before encountered in standard areas).

[Telluride]

 

(You might be asking what the difference is between a flying chocobo in Ul'dah and Ishgard though honestly I guess it's just that I might see more leniency with the latter since it was never before encountered in standard areas).

 

If I'm a Lalafellin trader in Thanalan, and I'm used to having to travel over the ground past all sorts of creatures that the very in-game-canon says really want to eat me (read some of the fate descriptions around Horizon), this becomes pretty important to me.

 

If I'm a (insert non-combatant person) traveling through (insert area filled with ground threats) and I find out that flying mounts exist suddenly, you bet your tuckus that I'm suddenly interested.

 

If I'm a Brass Blade, and I can suddenly fly over those Amal'jaa and drop firesand bombs on their positions, instead of putting myself in danger, you bet I want a flying Chocobo.

 

If I'm a Limsan Pirate captain, darned right I'm keeping a flying Chocobo on board, for the same kind of bombing runs against Garlean ships.

 

In fact, SE is going to have to spend a little time enforcing to us that flying mounts are terribly rare if they expect us to continue to take a LOT of their lore seriously. The reintroduction of air power in Eorzean hands (remember - Airships are RARE right now and Garlean Air Power is part of their threat) is a major plot point that.... well, I'm gonna be that guy and say it. I don't think SE is going to have thought this all the way through, but I will accept pleasant surprises, because frankly, I WANT to be wrong about it.

[CrimsonMars]

I think Chiyo would like the idea of flying. If not slightly awkward.

[K'nahli]

 

(You might be asking what the difference is between a flying chocobo in Ul'dah and Ishgard though honestly I guess it's just that I might see more leniency with the latter since it was never before encountered in standard areas).

 

If I'm a Lalafellin trader in Thanalan, and I'm used to having to travel over the ground past all sorts of creatures that the very in-game-canon says really want to eat me (read some of the fate descriptions around Horizon), this becomes pretty important to me.

 

If I'm a (insert non-combatant person) traveling through (insert area filled with ground threats) and I find out that flying mounts exist suddenly, you bet your tuckus that I'm suddenly interested.

 

If I'm a Brass Blade, and I can suddenly fly over those Amal'jaa and drop firesand bombs on their positions, instead of putting myself in danger, you bet I want a flying Chocobo.

 

If I'm a Limsan Pirate captain, darned right I'm keeping a flying Chocobo on board, for the same kind of bombing runs against Garlean ships.

 

In fact, SE is going to have to spend a little time enforcing to us that flying mounts are terribly rare if they expect us to continue to take a LOT of their lore seriously. The reintroduction of air power in Eorzean hands (remember - Airships are RARE right now and Garlean Air Power is part of their threat) is a major plot point that.... well, I'm gonna be that guy and say it. I don't think SE is going to have thought this all the way through, but I will accept pleasant surprises, because frankly, I WANT to be wrong about it.

 

It's not so much about people ICly being willing to accept it, but moreover the fact that come Heavensward, they suddenly exist in regular areas as though it's nothing new to RP.

 

Unless it turns out that these are some special and rare breed from Ishgard that are now released to the wider realm or whatever.

[Gegenji]

It's not so much about people ICly being willing to accept it, but moreover the fact that come Heavensward, they suddenly exist in regular areas as though it's nothing new to RP.

 

Unless it turns out that these are some special and rare breed from Ishgard that are now released to the wider realm or whatever.

 

I would assume that might be the case - since Ishgard has control over the breeding females (except in the case of the Gold Saucer birds? I'm still confused over that one), it wouldn't be surprising that they'd be the ones with the rare birds. Doubly so if they end up being considered a symbol of status or the like, such as being the personal mounts of the House leaders or something.

 

As for things suddenly being around that weren't before, we'll have that with the Au Ra already and also previously with Rogues/Ninjas.

[Harmonixer]

I had already planned on using the Bomb-Cart from the beast dailies. I went through the effort of unlocking it in the first place, I'll find a way to make it work ICly.

 

I don't see a problem with most of the mounts in ICly in general, obvious exceptions to some of them. Not everyone should be restricted to birds!