Aoi Fukiku Posted May 28, 2015 Share #1 Posted May 28, 2015 Age! How do you think they age? From the Dawn Father and the Dusk Mother and the fact they are said to be demon in origin and not Dragon, how do you think they age? Normal? Half? Maybe more? Lets talk. Link to comment
ShoggMommy Posted May 28, 2015 Share #2 Posted May 28, 2015 Probably not much longer than Elezen if that is the case, they seem to keep even the elves on the lower side. Link to comment
Aoi Fukiku Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted May 28, 2015 Probably not much longer than Elezen if that is the case, they seem to keep even the elves on the lower side. I believe the same. I do not see them out aging Elezen even with their said bloodline. Link to comment
Harmonixer Posted May 28, 2015 Share #4 Posted May 28, 2015 Xaela will likely have shorter lifespans due to lifestyle choices I'm guessing. Raen however might fare a lot better. I can't imagine either living much longer than the other races. Link to comment
shotgunbadger Posted May 28, 2015 Share #5 Posted May 28, 2015 I imagine they have elf lifespans, long, but not ancient. Link to comment
Unnamed Mercenary Posted May 28, 2015 Share #6 Posted May 28, 2015 Assuming SE doesn't go completely crazy with Au Ra, they'll probably live about as long as all the other races of allowed to love out their lives and die of old age. Pre-Au Ra, SE said this was about 100, with Elezen living "a little longer and having a longer time for puberty". ...so about 120-ish, if I'm remembering the Vegas fanfest. There have been a couple odd cases of people living hundreds of years, but that wasn't because of racial traits. It was from very powerful black magic (which yes, is basically world-powered thaumaturgy and could be used to accomplish the task by the best of the best). Link to comment
Aoi Fukiku Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted May 28, 2015 Keeping in mind their bloodline, I want to say normal age expectancy but with what they are I can see alot of racial and uncalled for hate which may get them killed..and xaela traveling. I don't see them living as long but aging maybe 1.5 the normal rate? Link to comment
allgivenover Posted May 28, 2015 Share #8 Posted May 28, 2015 I'd assume it's a "normal" life span unless SE states otherwise. Link to comment
allgivenover Posted May 28, 2015 Share #9 Posted May 28, 2015 I don't see them living as long but aging maybe 1.5 the normal rate? What are you basing this on? I can definitely see Xaela not living as long due to the warlike nature, but where did aging 1.5 times faster come from? Link to comment
Gegenji Posted May 28, 2015 Share #10 Posted May 28, 2015 I don't see them living as long but aging maybe 1.5 the normal rate? What are you basing this on? I can definitely see Xaela not living as long due to the warlike nature, but where did aging 1.5 times faster come from? I could understand having to mentally mature faster due to being in a warlike environment and they'd need every able-bodied warrior on call... and possibly even physically mature a bit earlier due to it if such a lifestyle has been going on long enough for natural selection to favor earlier onset puberty and whatnot... but the actual rate of overall aging being faster wouldn't make much sense. More physical/mental wear and tear (and possible mortality rates) from stress and the rigors of combat, yes, but I would find it difficult to believe that they would somehow age faster and dying sooner. ... Especially considering they're supposed to be part demon/dragon/whatever, and both voidsent and dragons - from what we have seen - are remarkably long-lived. Link to comment
Arik Posted May 28, 2015 Share #11 Posted May 28, 2015 Frankly, I hope the Au Ra lore isn't much more 'fantastic' compared to the other races-- Aging tendencies included. o: Can't say I'm really one to want too much emphasis on any bizarre or unworldly bloodlines-- just gimme a bunch of strangers/natives from a foreign land who are otherwise 'normal' (if, sure, a little rare maybe) in their homeland. (That isn't to say anyone here was arguing for 'fantastic' lore-- I've just seen a lot of over-the-top speculation on other forums.) Granted, I don't have much to base any of this on since I've yet to see much of their lore yet. So this is more in line with the optimal picture in my head and the fact that we haven't been told much to the contrary yet save for the fact that they are more Demonic in nature than Dragonic. By said logic, I'm biased in my assumption/hope that they will age at a similar rate to any other race. If anything, I agree with the previous comments-- especially in regards to the Xaela-- a more warlike, tribal culture like them may very well die relatively young. There may even be something of an 'honorable death' to be had, socially speaking, in a man perishing in battle while still young. Gods know my Xaela will likely have a pretty short lifespan expectancy-- though it'll be more to do with poor life choices in his case, I think. c; Link to comment
Aoi Fukiku Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #12 Posted May 28, 2015 I don't see them living as long but aging maybe 1.5 the normal rate? What are you basing this on? I can definitely see Xaela not living as long due to the warlike nature, but where did aging 1.5 times faster come from? The 1.5 is slower aging not faster..so they would live longer. This a guess since SE stated they are demon rather then dragon. Of course this is my idea of their aging process being pulled from other games where half breeds are involved. This is nothing in stone and only a thought, which is why I wanted to bring this topic at hand so something can be properly brainstormed on their age while we wait for SE to release information. Link to comment
allgivenover Posted May 28, 2015 Share #13 Posted May 28, 2015 I don't see them living as long but aging maybe 1.5 the normal rate? What are you basing this on? I can definitely see Xaela not living as long due to the warlike nature, but where did aging 1.5 times faster come from? The 1.5 is slower aging not faster..so they would live longer. This a guess since SE stated they are demon rather then dragon. Of course this is my idea of their aging process being pulled from other games where half breeds are involved. This is nothing in stone and only a thought, which is why I wanted to bring this topic at hand so something can be properly brainstormed on their age while we wait for SE to release information. You're going about your expressions oddly is all. 1.5 the normal rate would be the normal rate and half again as fast (for example 10 x 1.5 = 15). If you meant it to be slower you'd want to say 0.5 the normal rate or something. As for your aging speculation, what happens in other games has ZERO bearing on the lore here. Additionally Au Ra are their own distinct race and not a half-breed. I wouldn't hold your breath about SE releasing that much detail about racial biology. We actually have no word from them on how long any race lives other than Elezen and Lalafell being longer lived. I get that you're wanting to speculate but try not present it as brainstorming to fill lore gaps that may never ever be filled on SE's part. We don't get to decide the lore, we just interpret it. Link to comment
Aoi Fukiku Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #14 Posted May 28, 2015 I don't see them living as long but aging maybe 1.5 the normal rate? What are you basing this on? I can definitely see Xaela not living as long due to the warlike nature, but where did aging 1.5 times faster come from? The 1.5 is slower aging not faster..so they would live longer. This a guess since SE stated they are demon rather then dragon. Of course this is my idea of their aging process being pulled from other games where half breeds are involved. This is nothing in stone and only a thought, which is why I wanted to bring this topic at hand so something can be properly brainstormed on their age while we wait for SE to release information. You're going about your expressions oddly is all. 1.5 the normal rate would be the normal rate and half again as fast (for example 10 x 1.5 = 15). If you meant it to be slower you'd want to say 0.5 the normal rate or something. As for your aging speculation, what happens in other games has ZERO bearing on the lore here. Additionally Au Ra are their own distinct race and not a half-breed. I wouldn't hold your breath about SE releasing that much detail about racial biology. We actually have no word from them on how long any race lives other than Elezen and Lalafell being longer lived. I get that you're wanting to speculate but try not present it as brainstorming to fill lore gaps that may never ever be filled on SE's part. We don't get to decide the lore, we just interpret it. Yeah...don't mind my expressions. Used to talk as a slower rate then times. Even with au ra being their own race they are still demonic per SE which makes this fun to discuss. Hopefully however no one takes this as a means to rp a succubus. Link to comment
Siha Posted May 28, 2015 Share #15 Posted May 28, 2015 Are they actually demonic? I thought that SE just said they had a demonic motif? I wasn't aware they'd actually said they were related to voidsent and such. If so I missed things and I am sorry for asking a dumb question. Link to comment
allgivenover Posted May 28, 2015 Share #16 Posted May 28, 2015 The didn't, it just stated their motif was demonic and that people speculate they are related to dragons, but scholars disagree. I think they're being deliberately mysterious, we may never know for sure. Au Ra are Au Ra. Link to comment
Aoi Fukiku Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #17 Posted May 28, 2015 Are they actually demonic? I thought that SE just said they had a demonic motif? I wasn't aware they'd actually said they were related to voidsent and such. If so I missed things and I am sorry for asking a dumb question. I took from their wording that they have descended from such. Could and probably am wrong but the whole dawn father and dusk mother seem to hint at something for me. Link to comment
Kismet Posted May 28, 2015 Share #18 Posted May 28, 2015 Frankly, I hope the Au Ra lore isn't much more 'fantastic' compared to the other races-- Aging tendencies included. o: Can't say I'm really one to want too much emphasis on any bizarre or unworldly bloodlines-- just gimme a bunch of strangers/natives from a foreign land who are otherwise 'normal' (if, sure, a little rare maybe) in their homeland. (That isn't to say anyone here was arguing for 'fantastic' lore-- I've just seen a lot of over-the-top speculation on other forums.) ^This. I'm hoping they just go for something even and consistent with the other races. If Xaela have a tendency to live for less time on average due to risky lifestyles and practices, that's completely fine and makes sense. But if it turns out all Au Ra live twice as long as other races or some nonsense, I won't be fond of the idea at all. Link to comment
allgivenover Posted May 29, 2015 Share #19 Posted May 29, 2015 Them having weird sexual mores like Miqo'te is my biggest fear. Please no. Link to comment
Gone. Posted May 29, 2015 Share #20 Posted May 29, 2015 Them having weird sexual mores like Miqo'te is my biggest fear. Please no. That's part of what makes Miqo'te so interesting, though, especially on the Keeper side of things. Link to comment
Aoi Fukiku Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share #21 Posted May 29, 2015 I'm fine with the idea of them rubbing horns to show affection. However, I do not see them being large in bisexual curiosities. With them traveling and always being in dangers way I see them being raised to pop out kids ASAP to continue their clan forward (Xaela anyway/ lets be seekers). With Raen being more towards staying in one place they could be abundant and possibly have the keeper system. Link to comment
Spiritual Machine Posted May 29, 2015 Share #22 Posted May 29, 2015 Are they actually demonic? I thought that SE just said they had a demonic motif? I wasn't aware they'd actually said they were related to voidsent and such. If so I missed things and I am sorry for asking a dumb question. No, they never said that. People need to stop saying that. First people really wanted them to be related to dragons, then SE said their motif was demonic and now people really want them to be demons. Some SE staff even mentioned that the motif for the scales was meant to be reptilian. What's next, people are going to start saying they're related to crocs? Huehuehue. Link to comment
allgivenover Posted May 29, 2015 Share #23 Posted May 29, 2015 Them having weird sexual mores like Miqo'te is my biggest fear. Please no. That's part of what makes Miqo'te so interesting, though, especially on the Keeper side of things. And it also made RPing them a nightmare, as the vast majority either ignored the interesting stuff because it offended their real life sensibility or used the interesting stuff as a flimsy excuse for fetish. There's a reason I stopped RPing one. Way off topic, so that's all I'll say on the matter. Link to comment
Aoi Fukiku Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share #24 Posted May 29, 2015 Them having weird sexual mores like Miqo'te is my biggest fear. Please no. That's part of what makes Miqo'te so interesting, though, especially on the Keeper side of things. And it also made RPing them a nightmare, as the vast majority either ignored the interesting stuff because it offended their real life sensibility or used the interesting stuff as a flimsy excuse for fetish. There's a reason I stopped RPing one. Way off topic, so that's all I'll say on the matter. More then understanding on the last part. Ran in to ALOT of that but I know plenty of people who worked/tweaked the their story as not to deal with it without offending others lore stances. If Au'ra end up being alot like seekers I will probably write my Au'ra as to being away from the culture with her own little family that they don't follow it much if at all; afterall, they are traveling and picking up on plenty of other cultures out there. Link to comment
allgivenover Posted May 29, 2015 Share #25 Posted May 29, 2015 If Au'ra end up being alot of seekers I will probably write my Au'ra as to being away from the culture with her own little family that they don't follow it much if at all And here's why I hope that Au Ra have nuclear families and completely "normal" sexual mores. lol Link to comment
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