-no longer matters- Posted August 3, 2015 Share #1 Posted August 3, 2015 So I play a Dark Knight RP wise, and I've been noticing something, almost every Dark Knight I meet plays a voidsent powered Dark Knight.. Am I the only one that plays an emotion fueled Sith like Dark Knight like the lore and Class Quests says we are? I have no problem with Voidsent DRK players but it would be nice to connect with some people who play actual FFXIV Dark Knights. Has anyone else also noticed this? 1 Link to comment
Virella Posted August 3, 2015 Share #2 Posted August 3, 2015 /scratches head In truth I have seen more people roleplaying their DRK as "I'm a knight/sellsword with just one big sword." Sadly enough I do not know people's characters enough to tell if they are a DRK besides that (PS I still have not managed to catch you ingame for roleplay x_X!) Link to comment
Oli! Posted August 3, 2015 Share #3 Posted August 3, 2015 If / when I ever get the character that I want to turn into a Dark Knight into the 3.0 content, they will be emotionally driven because I find that more fun. Link to comment
-no longer matters- Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted August 3, 2015 /scratches head In truth I have seen more people roleplaying their DRK as "I'm a knight/sellsword with just one big sword." Sadly enough I do not know people's characters enough to tell if they are a DRK besides that (PS I still have not managed to catch you ingame for roleplay x_X!) Yeah I've met a few of those too, and those are cool too, and I do mix the Sellsword property into my own roleplay (and kind of Dark Avenger in my head cannon and short stories since in game there's few chances to do such.) I've been so busy catching up to PvE stuff, and FC RP! I'll be on around 8pm (est) tomorrow I'll try to catch you with a friend invite! If / when I ever get the character that I want to turn into a Dark Knight into the 3.0 content, they will be emotionally driven because I find that more fun. *High Five* Get to 3.0 sir! Link to comment
Mercer Posted August 3, 2015 Share #5 Posted August 3, 2015 One thing that is important with DRK is to make sure you get through the 30-50 quests first before RPing. There's a lot going on that doesn't come into fruition until that post 50 story. Nature of DRK, their powers, their origin and more is locked away. That being said, DRK is fantastic for RP. There are a lot of ways to approach the RP, from the grizzled war veteran barely hanging on to their sanity or the raw recruit going through the downright bizarre and surreal transformation into a DRK. There is a ton of potential out of Dark Knights that I wish people would enjoy or explore more. 1 Link to comment
Aaron Posted August 3, 2015 Share #6 Posted August 3, 2015 Oddly enough I asked a friend that same question and his reply was (he actually was a lot more blunt but I'll water it down) "Playing a DRK who calls upon the void sounds far better than playing a DRK who draws power from being a emotional crybaby and throwing temper tantrum to boost his power." I guess people read "draw power from emotions" in a more negative light. Social media depiction of darkness and emotions doesn't help improve the situation. But I can't really comment because im one of those DRK OOC just for the Greatsword IC type people. Sure Aaron's emotional at times but he doesn't draw power from it. More like he draws motivation. It's a mixture of preference and how people view darkness to be synonymous with cutting yourself at night. Link to comment
-no longer matters- Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted August 3, 2015 One thing that is important with DRK is to make sure you get through the 30-50 quests first before RPing. There's a lot going on that doesn't come into fruition until that post 50 story. Nature of DRK, their powers, their origin and more is locked away. That being said, DRK is fantastic for RP. There are a lot of ways to approach the RP, from the grizzled war veteran barely hanging on to their sanity or the raw recruit going through the downright bizarre and surreal transformation into a DRK. There is a ton of potential out of Dark Knights that I wish people would enjoy or explore more. Right I actually looked up spoilers before I started planning War's RP so I wouldn't go the wrong route, and the DRK story is phenomenal and the Post 50 quest line explains so much about them, and how much they themselves don't fully understand yet. The 58 quest especially, even though silly was eye opening to the nature of their power. Link to comment
-no longer matters- Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted August 3, 2015 Oddly enough I asked a friend that same question and his reply was (he actually was a lot more blunt but I'll water it down) "Playing a DRK who calls upon the void sounds far better than playing a DRK who draws power from being a emotional crybaby and throwing temper tantrum to boost his power." I guess people read "draw power from emotions" in a more negative light. Social media depiction of darkness and emotions doesn't help improve the situation. But I can't really comment because im one of those DRK OOC just for the Greatsword IC type people. Sure Aaron's emotional at times but he doesn't draw power from it. More like he draws motivation. It's a mixture of preference and how people view darkness to be synonymous with cutting yourself at night. Guess they aren't Star Wars fans. I personally love the Sith, and the Dark Knights are FF's Siths Link to comment
Aaron Posted August 3, 2015 Share #9 Posted August 3, 2015 Oddly enough I asked a friend that same question and his reply was (he actually was a lot more blunt but I'll water it down) "Playing a DRK who calls upon the void sounds far better than playing a DRK who draws power from being a emotional crybaby and throwing temper tantrum to boost his power." I guess people read "draw power from emotions" in a more negative light. Social media depiction of darkness and emotions doesn't help improve the situation. But I can't really comment because im one of those DRK OOC just for the Greatsword IC type people. Sure Aaron's emotional at times but he doesn't draw power from it. More like he draws motivation. It's a mixture of preference and how people view darkness to be synonymous with cutting yourself at night. Guess they aren't Star Wars fans. I personally love the Sith, and the Dark Knights are FF's Siths Don't be discouraged. If anything im pondering Aaron to go the emotions = power DRK route later. If I do choose that route here's to hoping I can hunt you down as a IC teacher or something. Link to comment
Mercer Posted August 3, 2015 Share #10 Posted August 3, 2015 Oddly enough I asked a friend that same question and his reply was (he actually was a lot more blunt but I'll water it down) "Playing a DRK who calls upon the void sounds far better than playing a DRK who draws power from being a emotional crybaby and throwing temper tantrum to boost his power." I guess people read "draw power from emotions" in a more negative light. Social media depiction of darkness and emotions doesn't help improve the situation. But I can't really comment because im one of those DRK OOC just for the Greatsword IC type people. Sure Aaron's emotional at times but he doesn't draw power from it. More like he draws motivation. It's a mixture of preference and how people view darkness to be synonymous with cutting yourself at night. It's a shame that the Emo/Scene trend of the last decade has poisoned emotional and dark storylines There's a lot of great, classic conflict that can be explored with DRK including the traditional conflict of Superego, Ego and Id. In fact, I would say that conflict between the Ego and Id is more important than any 'darkness' or 'emotional' aspect to the DRK character. The motivation of a DRK is not in the pain or suffering they have gone through but the conflict between primal even self protective behavior versus responsibility and morality. This conflict between primal aspects of the mind creates more of the 'void' and it's power than any outright 'dark' characteristics. 2 Link to comment
-no longer matters- Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted August 3, 2015 Oddly enough I asked a friend that same question and his reply was (he actually was a lot more blunt but I'll water it down) "Playing a DRK who calls upon the void sounds far better than playing a DRK who draws power from being a emotional crybaby and throwing temper tantrum to boost his power." I guess people read "draw power from emotions" in a more negative light. Social media depiction of darkness and emotions doesn't help improve the situation. But I can't really comment because im one of those DRK OOC just for the Greatsword IC type people. Sure Aaron's emotional at times but he doesn't draw power from it. More like he draws motivation. It's a mixture of preference and how people view darkness to be synonymous with cutting yourself at night. Guess they aren't Star Wars fans. I personally love the Sith, and the Dark Knights are FF's Siths Don't be discouraged. If anything im pondering Aaron to go the emotions = power DRK route later. If I do choose that route here's to hoping I can hunt you down as a IC teacher or something. Oh I'm not but it would be cool to form a small circle with people who play the more Sith like Dark Knights. Feel free to friend me, when ever you're ready War will be around! Oddly enough I asked a friend that same question and his reply was (he actually was a lot more blunt but I'll water it down) "Playing a DRK who calls upon the void sounds far better than playing a DRK who draws power from being a emotional crybaby and throwing temper tantrum to boost his power." I guess people read "draw power from emotions" in a more negative light. Social media depiction of darkness and emotions doesn't help improve the situation. But I can't really comment because im one of those DRK OOC just for the Greatsword IC type people. Sure Aaron's emotional at times but he doesn't draw power from it. More like he draws motivation. It's a mixture of preference and how people view darkness to be synonymous with cutting yourself at night. It's a shame that the Emo/Scene trend of the last decade has poisoned emotional and dark storylines There's a lot of great, classic conflict that can be explored with DRK including the traditional conflict of Superego, Ego and Id. In fact, I would say that conflict between the Ego and Id is more important than any 'darkness' or 'emotional' aspect to the DRK character. The motivation of a DRK is not in the pain or suffering they have gone through but the conflict between primal even self protective behavior versus responsibility and morality. This conflict between primal aspects of the mind creates more of the 'void' and it's power than any outright 'dark' characteristics. ^Right here this guy gets it! Link to comment
ProvaDiServo Posted August 3, 2015 Share #12 Posted August 3, 2015 I actually am not familiar with anyone making use of voidsent DRK really. Link to comment
Aaron Posted August 3, 2015 Share #13 Posted August 3, 2015 Oddly enough I asked a friend that same question and his reply was (he actually was a lot more blunt but I'll water it down) "Playing a DRK who calls upon the void sounds far better than playing a DRK who draws power from being a emotional crybaby and throwing temper tantrum to boost his power." I guess people read "draw power from emotions" in a more negative light. Social media depiction of darkness and emotions doesn't help improve the situation. But I can't really comment because im one of those DRK OOC just for the Greatsword IC type people. Sure Aaron's emotional at times but he doesn't draw power from it. More like he draws motivation. It's a mixture of preference and how people view darkness to be synonymous with cutting yourself at night. It's a shame that the Emo/Scene trend of the last decade has poisoned emotional and dark storylines There's a lot of great, classic conflict that can be explored with DRK including the traditional conflict of Superego, Ego and Id. In fact, I would say that conflict between the Ego and Id is more important than any 'darkness' or 'emotional' aspect to the DRK character. The motivation of a DRK is not in the pain or suffering they have gone through but the conflict between primal even self protective behavior versus responsibility and morality. This conflict between primal aspects of the mind creates more of the 'void' and it's power than any outright 'dark' characteristics. You know how it goes. The human population is like a flock of sheep. Depict something one way and the majority of people now assume it's always been that way. Sad really, I feel rp would be a lot better if more people branched off in different styles not just hating something because it sounds crybaby. Link to comment
ProvaDiServo Posted August 3, 2015 Share #14 Posted August 3, 2015 Oddly enough I asked a friend that same question and his reply was (he actually was a lot more blunt but I'll water it down) "Playing a DRK who calls upon the void sounds far better than playing a DRK who draws power from being a emotional crybaby and throwing temper tantrum to boost his power." I guess people read "draw power from emotions" in a more negative light. Social media depiction of darkness and emotions doesn't help improve the situation. But I can't really comment because im one of those DRK OOC just for the Greatsword IC type people. Sure Aaron's emotional at times but he doesn't draw power from it. More like he draws motivation. It's a mixture of preference and how people view darkness to be synonymous with cutting yourself at night. It's a shame that the Emo/Scene trend of the last decade has poisoned emotional and dark storylines There's a lot of great, classic conflict that can be explored with DRK including the traditional conflict of Superego, Ego and Id. In fact, I would say that conflict between the Ego and Id is more important than any 'darkness' or 'emotional' aspect to the DRK character. The motivation of a DRK is not in the pain or suffering they have gone through but the conflict between primal even self protective behavior versus responsibility and morality. This conflict between primal aspects of the mind creates more of the 'void' and it's power than any outright 'dark' characteristics. You know how it goes. The human population is like a flock of sheep. Depict something one way and the majority of people now assume it's always been that way. Sad really, I feel rp would be a lot better if more people branched off in different styles not just hating something because it sounds crybaby. Yeah, it's pretty double-edged. but that's the drive you gotta use when making that type of RP feel approachable Link to comment
Sin Posted August 3, 2015 Share #15 Posted August 3, 2015 No, you're not the only one. I posted a thread seeking a character that could serve as a mentor for mine on his way to becoming a Dark Knight as portrayed in the FFXIV Lore/Job Quest. As a result of this thread I was in touch with a handful of Dark Knight roleplayers who for the -most- part stayed faithful to the lore of the Darkside as presented in the game. And yet even then, even requesting a particularly fierce adherence to the presentation in game, I find that a lot of those I spoke with injected their own flavor into it. Some subtle, some less so. Ultimately, you're going to run into all manner of crazy things out there. In any case, I play Jullienaux Sintierre, an ends justify the means knight who has come under tutelage of Draco Nobis, an Ishgardian that has overcome the Darkside and commands it in the name of righteousness! Both of us roleplay more traditional Dark Knights. I've also roleplayed with Sarnai Kha, an Au Ra DRK that from the brief meeting seemed to also be played closely by the Lore with a hint of their own flavor. Finally, Clementine Whittaker is another I wanted to RP but our times have not matched together very well. They roleplay a DRK based on emotion, highly emphasizing the Id, Superego, and Ego conflict. 2 Link to comment
Draco Nobis Posted August 4, 2015 Share #16 Posted August 4, 2015 I've RP'd a DRK since 2.0 (As a shieldless PLD). Lucky for me, a lot of the DRK stuff, such as weapon and where the Darkside comes from, was accurate enough to my character. I think they were spying on me /shot Although he isn't such an emotional powered DRK anymore. Unless you count his passion to defend others as emotional drive. But, there have been a few DRK's I've seen that put interesting twists on it. I know Orenji Kharn is an IC DRK although he hides it. Jullienaux is another, and he listed the others I know of. Gunnbjorn was another, but I forgot his character's last name. 1 Link to comment
Val Posted August 4, 2015 Share #17 Posted August 4, 2015 I have a Dark Knight! Though he isn't very well aware that he has the abilities. He's also a very pleasant/good person he just needs a teacher so he'll stop sucking. Link to comment
Jessika Saphir Posted August 4, 2015 Share #18 Posted August 4, 2015 I started building Jess's DRK transformation long before any of us knew what DRK was going to be, and aside from the fact that I am basing her powers on voidsent (it's not...quite that simple, but it is an accurate enough grouping to lump me into for this discussion) it is eerie how well things have been playing into it. Either way, I know I've been enjoying playing as a DRK, and I can't wait to start actually being one IC. Link to comment
Mercer Posted August 4, 2015 Share #19 Posted August 4, 2015 Oswin is not a stereotypical DRK going the typical DRK route. What I mean to say is that Oswin already has some familiarity with the more aggressive parts of his personality through previous Marauder and Warrior training, though he was never truly able to temper the Beast Within like so many Warriors before him. It's lead to him having very aggressive, violent tendencies in battle as he loses himself to the base instincts below even the Id and Ego, simply the state of survival. His journey to becoming a Dark Knight is stereotypical and... very not typical. In truth, Oswin is a half breed between Midlander and Highlander, with his Midlander father hailing from Ishgard long before the gates closed. His father, often called Rook among the Dark Knight circles, died in the past year. His few effects were left with a trusted companion in Ishgard, waiting for his long lost son to finally discover his inheritance. People who are familiar with the Dark Knight quest line know how cruel the process of becoming a Dark Knight can be. Rook's soulstone was hidden inside of his signet ring and when Oswin discovered his father's effects and tried on the soulstone, the process of becoming a Dark Knight started. He's currently going through fitful nights full of nightmares and days full of whispers and visions. His story is very similar to the WoL's transformation as a Dark Knight. Instead Oswin is currently supported and taught what it means to be a DRK by his father's old apprentice and a rival Dark Knight, letting him form and understand over a much longer period of time. Heck, over a month and a half later and he's just starting to understand what this darkness is and the battle raging behind the scenes. Link to comment
Dante Abigor Posted August 4, 2015 Share #20 Posted August 4, 2015 I created Dante with his eventual transformation into a Dark Knight type of character planned since way back in 1.0 before hey even announced AF jobs. They second I heard of Paladins being a thing in FFXIV he was to officially become a DRK. That said though the way things have developed in game are a bit odd at best and while at his core he still has all of the traits of a DRK(Its creepy and eery actually considering how well he has fit with the actual lore when I made it blindly) except for the need to defend those outside of his little world of people he cares about. What he is though is constantly desperate for power, something that has been a constant from the beginning. I mean, he attends the Grindstone on the off chance that all of the battle going on possibly open a Chakra inside of him, forged a blade so he wouldnt forget his past failures, and his emotions literally channel his aether. The only kicker is that he doesnt actually know what a dark knight really /is/ yet, so he doesnt claim it, much like he doesnt claim being a monk as he believes it is not a way of life for him, but a means to an end. Link to comment
Steel Wolf Posted August 4, 2015 Share #21 Posted August 4, 2015 Steel is still trying to come to grips with what the hell it is she's becoming. I've sort of worked with the DRK story quests in that her internal emotional strife and rage is a source of aether, which segues nicely in to her tapping the depths of what was her Inner Beast during her stint as a Warrior. That said, I also still have her as very snarky and ostentatious. Just because her aether comes from a place of pain doesn't mean she has to wear it like a cloak. The biggest struggle I'm personally having is finding someone who'd find interest in mentoring my character in the Dark Arts. 1 Link to comment
Xzenivar Posted August 4, 2015 Share #22 Posted August 4, 2015 A'kos would be the emotion fueled sort of Dark Knight if I take him in that direction ic. It's just so ingrained in his nature to be that rogue/ninja/dervish type of fighter that it would be a drastic leap to become a DRK, so I may just do it ooc. I've only done the first quest so far but it was pretty amazing how well it fit him personality wise. We'll see, I admit that I see the Dark Knights less like hate fueled Sith Lords just out for their own ends, and more like Batman started his own order of knights and gave them greatswords and dark powers. Maybe Batman and Spawn had kids... ...there were those crossovers >_> Link to comment
kharnlol Posted August 4, 2015 Share #23 Posted August 4, 2015 I tend to throw back to older Final Fantasies in my roleplaying of a Dark Knight when it comes to Orenji. Much like Draco said, he keeps it under wraps because I've seen a vast majority of roleplayers that "suffer not a Dark Knight to live" thinking them beasts and such. In terms of personality in non-aetheric combat, I like to pay heavy homage to Guts (from Berserk) and the general idea of 'sacrifice HP to boost DPS insanely'. Orenji's combat style involves him often getting hit in order to strike his opponent even harder. (In fact he became friends with Draco by getting stabbed in the shoulder and summarily using that distance to swing his blade back at him). He's a risk taker, where he cares less about getting hit so long as he can strike back, the whole "the best defense is a good offense" deal that I don't see many DRK roleplayers take. While I'm not the biggest fan of the XIV twist of stealing HP to be tankier, in terms of aether, Orenji is highly reliant on enhancing his own blade with dark magics or using old school dark-versions of classic FF spells. Dark Firaga, Dark Blizzaga, etc. Since his own echo is that of subconscious time magic use, i.e. Slow/Haste (it's what allows his ego to claim that he's the fastest around), it only fit even more perfectly when doing the DRK questline (specifically the level 50 one) and your opponent starts using Gravity and such, which are also time magics. I'd love to think that the 30-50 questline was written perfectly for Orenji's character development as both a dark knight and a leader (because it totally was), but it fits extremely well into how I roleplay them. I base Orenji heavily on a combo of both Kain and Cecil Harvey, two of my favorite protagonists of all time. Orenji's darkness is a very real 'inner voice' character for him, whom he battles wits with in terms of his instinct and emotions not unlike Ichigo (from the manga Bleach) would his inner hollow, not to get too spoilery with the DRK questline. That is the source for most of his aether magics, especially what allows him to be a Dark Knight. Though as someone said before me, all in all, they're really just batmen that aren't afraid to kill people for the greater good. Link to comment
Jana Posted August 4, 2015 Share #24 Posted August 4, 2015 Reading this, Jana would make a good DRK... But she's got too many classes and a job crystal already! Link to comment
Dravus Posted August 4, 2015 Share #25 Posted August 4, 2015 I actually considered making Graeham into a DRK purely for the sake of having him wield a two handed sword. I ultimately decided against it though since the aesthetics of the class just didn't fit him and I'd simply be avoiding using any of the abilities IC. I settled on PLD instead and using a sword and shield is much more effective for the sort of character I'm portraying him as. It helps that the abilities don't look so blatantly...evil. I've seen quite a few role-players portraying their characters as the stereotypical DRK both before and after the class was added to the game. I think it's also worth noting that realistically not a lot of people are going to know what a DRK actually is and even fewer individuals are going to understand that they're not necessarily as evil as they're rumoured to be. Plus even those who come to understand them are going to be wary because a DRK can easily 'give in' to their inner turmoil and effectively lose it, becoming a major threat to be put down. Link to comment
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now