Player Housing

[CalebAgron]

Has anyone heard any recent news regarding personal player housing? Do we know if it's going to mirror company in -any- way? Meaning will there be S/M/L plots? Will the plot layout be identical? Around what pricing will each house be? etc.

[Aleister]

Has anyone heard any recent news regarding personal player housing? Do we know if it's going to mirror company in -any- way? Meaning will there be S/M/L plots? Will the plot layout be identical? Around what pricing will each house be? etc.

Yoshi has said very very very little about personal housing and this is probably because its no where near ready for whatever reason. He stated in one of his live letters that it would be a (Estimate)year after the release of Free Company housing.

[Ildur]

Squeenix server infrastructure is handled and powered by hamsters, so I bet that estimate is how long until they get enough money to upgrade to dual-core powered servers! Dual core as in 2 hamsters instead of one.

[LandStander]

Squeenix server infrastructure is handled and powered by hamsters, so I bet that estimate is how long until they get enough money to upgrade to dual-core powered servers! Dual core as in 2 hamsters instead of one.

 

Lol!

 

In all seriousness though, FFXIV has been a huuuuge success for them and they are actually in the green this quarter because of it . I am unsure how this will effect how much money SE gives them though. 

 

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/210080/Great_year_for_Square_Enix_thanks_to_Final_Fantasy_XIV_reboot.php

[T'shina]

Last I heard when it came to Personal Housing they said it would be released six months after Free Company Housing and that it would be significantly cheaper than that of Free Company Housing. From what I understand there will be S/M/L sizes but they do not have a design for it or are still in the planning stages.

 

Personal Housing also depended on the success of Free Company Housing and how many were bought to see if it would be a good idea to implement into the game. Seeing how well Free Company Housing is going over they will be implementing it.

[Seriphyn]

I bet it will be called Grand Company housing, and will be instanced apartments accessible from the left set of doors in every Grand Company headquarters. It doesn't have have a No Entry sign on it...just a guess, mind.

[LandStander]

I bet it will be called Grand Company housing, and will be instanced apartments accessible from the left set of doors in every Grand Company headquarters. It doesn't have have a No Entry sign on it...just a guess, mind.

 

Yep, this is exactly what I heard. They will basically be rooms that are instanced and tied to the Free (or Grand, I can't remember) Company housing from what I recall.

[Naunet]

I bet it will be called Grand Company housing, and will be instanced apartments accessible from the left set of doors in every Grand Company headquarters. It doesn't have have a No Entry sign on it...just a guess, mind.

 

That would be such a disappointment.

 

*grumbles and goes back to playing with Dimensions*

[Ildur]

It will be hilarious (and by that I mean "sad") if they decide if player housing is worth it based on the success of FC housing. Right now, FC housing is so expensive that only a handful of companies had the funds for it. So they'll either have to admit that the way they released FC housing was completely stupid or else have to release something their numbers tell is not succesful.

I'm betting they'll go for "OH! Players are NOT interested in housing, so we won't be releasing it ATM. Instead, have this Primal Battles: For Realz this Time."

[LiadansWhisper]

I'm betting they'll go for "OH! Players are NOT interested in housing, so we won't be releasing it ATM. Instead, have this Primal Battles: For Realz this Time."

 

Don't give them any ideas!!

[Dravus]

I've been waiting almost a decade for a modern MMO to invest in a proper system for personal player housing. It's ridiculous, since it's one of the features in an MMO that would encourage a lot of investment if handled well and implemented in an in-depth manner.

 

I just don't get it. Plenty of older MMO's with much less resources at their disposal managed to implement it in a reasonable manner and yet most modern MMO's either avoid it altogether or only bother appeasing the very small minority of players who want guild housing.

 

Honestly? I don't care if my guild has a house or not. It really doesn't do anything for me. If my close friends and myself have a house that we can personally customise to our tastes then I would literally jump up to celebrate.

[CalebAgron]

I bet it will be called Grand Company housing, and will be instanced apartments accessible from the left set of doors in every Grand Company headquarters. It doesn't have have a No Entry sign on it...just a guess, mind.

That would be the worst idea -ever- to require players to first buy one of the retarded overpriced FC housing to be able to get a "Door" to an instanced house. I think that would be enough to make me quit the game since personal housing is perhaps the single most important thing to me and why I've been grinding stuff for gil.

 

If it isn't similar to how they have FC housing set up (in that there is a "community" of house lots that you can purchase in a instanced area) then I'll probably ditch the game.

[Dakki]

I'm betting they'll go for "OH! Players are NOT interested in housing, so we won't be releasing it ATM. Instead, have this Primal Battles: For Realz this Time."

 

Don't give them any ideas!!

 

This just in from Square Enix HQ:

 

Coming in Patch 2.2:

PRIMALS: FOR REALZ THIS TIME

 

 

AVOID TITAN AS HE ATTEMPTS TO SIT ON YOUR PARTY, ONE-SHOT KO'ING YOU!

 

 

HIDE BEHIND THE ROCKS AGAINST GARUDA ONLY TO FIND OUT MISTRAL SONG NOW CURLS AROUND THE PILLARS!

 

 

BE SLOW ROASTED BY IFRIT OVER AN OPEN FIRE! THEN BE CARVED UP AND SERVED TO HIS AMALJ'AA HOMIES!

 

 

PRIMALS: FOR REALZ THIS TIME. THERE IS NO ESCAPE.

 

 

 

 

... Dammit, Ulalan!

[Aldotsk]

It really annoys me the fact that when FC members or people have the set of mind saying:

"It's ok. We don't need a house. We'll just occupy some area and Roleplay over there." 

 

That's just lazy and you have no absolute contribution to the FC. I've had to deal with them and that is not an optimistic view to the community and FC itself. 

 

Also, having personal house MAY be good. But if people start buying personal house when FC houses aren't filled up - then it'll just ruin the community because people will just prefer to party inside personal mansion over FC mansion since it will -possibly- be cheap.

 

If 2.1's first pricing for FC house was ($320 million for largest) , then player's largest housing should be ($640 million for first pricing) so that players can't buy it and rely on Free Company to join, enjoy, and appreciate their FC house.

[Naunet]

That's just lazy and you have no absolute contribution to the FC. I've had to deal with them and that is not an optimistic view to the community and FC itself.

 

That's kind of an unreasonably strong negative judgment towards people who may not see the need for an FC house. >_>

 

Personally, I find Squee's "housing" effort to be so pathetically limited anyway that I don't blame anyone who doesn't wanna partake. I've largely written it off myself as something not worth the gil.

 

If 2.1's first pricing for FC house was ($320 million for largest) ' date=' then player's largest housing should be ($640 million for first pricing) so that players can't buy it and rely on Free Company to join, enjoy, and appreciate their FC house.[/quote']

 

This is hilarious. The same shit logic that got us the absurd FC housing prices, and you want to repeat it with personal housing! Hah.

[Aldotsk]

That's kind of an unreasonably strong negative judgment towards people who may not see the need for an FC house. >_>

 

Personally, I find Squee's "housing" effort to be so pathetically limited anyway that I don't blame anyone who doesn't wanna partake. I've largely written it off myself as something not worth the gil.

 

 

 

My apologies if I came in a very strong statement on that, but it was really attempted to attack anyone.

 

They don't have to choose on helping out on anything. But I also do not appreciate attitudes with people giving unwanted statements such as "who needs houses anyways? we are just wasting our time. Let's just find a random place to roleplay instead". 

 

It's either you can just say "I am sorry, I can't afford to help." or even "It does not interest me". Nothing more.

[LiadansWhisper]

 

 

 

My apologies if I came in a very strong statement on that, but it was really attempted to attack anyone.

 

They don't have to choose on helping out on anything. But I also do not appreciate attitudes with people giving unwanted statements such as "who needs houses anyways? we are just wasting our time. Let's just find a random place to roleplay instead". 

 

It's either you can just say "I am sorry, I can't afford to help." or even "It does not interest me". Nothing more.

 

Please don't take this the wrong way, but you kind of come across as, "I can't buy an FC house, and no one will help me with it, so no one should get player housing either so they'll be forced to buy the FC house I want."

 

I really, really want an FC house, but my guild can't afford one.  I've personally ground up several million gil, and I'm all tapped out.  If they did something like that for individual housing, I would be incredibly upset, disappointed, and probably give up on the game.  It's very upsetting to hear someone say, "You shouldn't get to have something you want because I can't have something I want."

[Aldotsk]

If we had personal house as big as a FC house, then it'd fail the purpose of having FC house from the start in my honest opinion. Perhaps they'll have to make it smaller. 

 

Even though I find it upsetting that people won't care to work on their own housing or FC housing, I would not quit a game for the purpose of price being higher than FC house. Prices are meant to drop.

[LiadansWhisper]

If we had personal house as big as a FC house, then it'd fail the purpose of having FC house from the start in my honest opinion. Perhaps they'll have to make it smaller. 

 

Even though I find it upsetting that people won't care to work on their own housing or FC housing, I would not quit a game for the purpose of price being higher than FC house. Prices are meant to drop.

 

This doesn't make people want to help you buy an FC house.  TBH, if I was in your FC and read this, I'd refuse to donate anything at all.

[Ildur]

I don't think anyone is worrying about personal housing being smaller than FC housing, but worrying that FC houses are already on the small side? I can't say for sure, since I have never been inside.

 

In any case, FC houses should always be bigger than individual houses. There's more people involved, more instalations, more furniture gatherers, etcetera. It doesn't make sense for FC and character houses to be the exact same size (except maybe for the smallest one).

 

But even then there's no way to know if Squeenix won't pull another "let's make sure everyone has opportunity to buy a house by making sure nobody but the richest people can!" logic. That's what really worries me.

 

Incidentally: making individual houses more expensive than FC ones makes character housing absolutely irrelevant. Why would you use more money on your own house when you can get the same place for much cheaper and faster with an FC? Why even implement personal housing if the only purpose is for it to make FC houses comparatively better? It's like saying you are going to place a pile of crap next to a trash can so people appreciate the can better. Instead of doing that, why don't you just put the pile of crap inside the trash can? Why the impracticality?

[Flickering Ember]

I bet it will be called Grand Company housing, and will be instanced apartments accessible from the left set of doors in every Grand Company headquarters. It doesn't have have a No Entry sign on it...just a guess, mind.

 

I really hope not. I'm not much of a fan of the Grand Companies and RP a character who isn't a part of any of them and wouldn't want to be. I have heard it will either be rooms in a FC house or separate houses. 

 

I agree though that they will probably be smaller if they go with separate houses. I am not really sure how they can go any smaller since the small FC house is already pretty small.

[LiadansWhisper]

Incidentally: making individual houses more expensive than FC ones makes character housing absolutely irrelevant. Why would you use more money on your own house when you can get the same place for much cheaper and faster with an FC? Why even implement personal housing if the only purpose is for it to make FC houses comparatively better? It's like saying you are going to place a pile of crap next to a trash can so people appreciate the can better. Instead of doing that, why don't you just put the pile of crap inside the trash can? Why the impracticality?

 

That seems to be what he wants, though.  He appears to be upset that no one wants to work for an FC house, so they should make player housing more expensive so that people will then want to work on an FC house.

[CalebAgron]

It really annoys me the fact that when FC members or people have the set of mind saying:

"It's ok. We don't need a house. We'll just occupy some area and Roleplay over there." 

 

That's just lazy and you have no absolute contribution to the FC. I've had to deal with them and that is not an optimistic view to the community and FC itself. 

 

Also, having personal house MAY be good. But if people start buying personal house when FC houses aren't filled up - then it'll just ruin the community because people will just prefer to party inside personal mansion over FC mansion since it will -possibly- be cheap.

 

If 2.1's first pricing for FC house was ($320 million for largest) , then player's largest housing should be ($640 million for first pricing) so that players can't buy it and rely on Free Company to join, enjoy, and appreciate their FC house.

Square already stated in certain terms that Player Housing would be much more affordable then FC housing. So your desire to see less people have their own houses won't come true.

 

I have not been into any of the FC houses yet so I can't really comment on how big or small FC houses currently are. Though I agree a large personal house should NOT be as big as a large FC house. That said I don't think a large player house should be like a "studio apartment" with just 1-2 separate areas.

 

And I wont even comment on the FC housing and how ridiculously over priced they are even WITH the devaluation. If housing lots were just one giant strip of houses I wouldn't even care about which LOT i got. But they aren't and there are some lots that are more desirable then the others. And with how FC housing is set up right now, there is only 1 lot I'm interested in, and it happens to be medium and so it is still after all this time sitting at 26 million. My 1.5 mil wouldn't even put a dent in that price.

 

So anyway here is to hoping it's identical to FC housing but perhaps a little smaller and with new community maps.

[Aldotsk]

Incidentally: making individual houses more expensive than FC ones makes character housing absolutely irrelevant. Why would you use more money on your own house when you can get the same place for much cheaper and faster with an FC? Why even implement personal housing if the only purpose is for it to make FC houses comparatively better? It's like saying you are going to place a pile of crap next to a trash can so people appreciate the can better. Instead of doing that, why don't you just put the pile of crap inside the trash can? Why the impracticality?

 

That seems to be what he wants, though.  He appears to be upset that no one wants to work for an FC house, so they should make player housing more expensive so that people will then want to work on an FC house.

 

No, because it was originally set by Yoshi-P that he wanted people to buy the FC houses BEFORE we even deserve to receive personal housing. Why should he allow any of you to have a personal housing when you guys don't even limit yourselves to actually fund a bigger house? There are plenty of other FCs who actually contributed because they want to share the house and RP together. If you feel like the FC houses are expensive, there are many other ways to gain money and sell items. Even selling shards/crystals/clusters even gain you money. Whichever works out for you.

 

and FYI:

I had been paying my own money to fund for my own FC. So please don't jump into conclusions before you make a simplistic accusations unless you are trying to insult me. The house isn't for my own. It is there for others who are in my FC. I just think that personal house is not needed as of right now until 2.6-3.0 because FC houses are still not filled up, like the devs and Yoshi-P said. They had been dropping prices down more and more and if people still refuse to buy them - then that's more delays for players to gain their personal house.

 

This doesn't make people want to help you buy an FC house.  TBH, if I was in your FC and read this, I'd refuse to donate anything at all.

 

I appreciate your personal attacks, but I don't think that still will change how I see in personal housing comparing to FC housing. I find the mind of people's attitude to be extremely negative and shallow because they don't want to share their houses with people and wants things for their own. 

 

Large/Medium plot size for FC house should remain as the largest plot for player housing should be what small plot size FC house is currently if that's the case.

[LiadansWhisper]

 

 

I appreciate your personal attacks, but I don't think that still will change how I see in personal housing comparing to FC housing. I find the mind of people's attitude to be extremely negative and shallow because they don't want to share their houses with people and wants things for their own. 

 

Large/Medium plot size for FC house should remain as the largest plot for player housing should be what small plot size FC house is currently if that's the case.

 

It was not a personal attack.  Also, aren't you personally attacking anyone who disagrees with you by claiming that they just don't want to "share"?

 

I want to share.  I want an FC house.  My FC can't afford one.  I've personally sunk several million gil into my FC's house fund to try to get one, but it's not going to happen anytime soon.  What upsets me about what you are saying is that you want to deny other people enjoyment because you cannot get your FC members to invest in an FC house.  I don't want a personal house because I don't want to "share."  I want a personal house because a) I would like personal space that isn't an inn room and b) my FC can't afford a house.