ULDAH MSQ - If you RP in Ul'dah you should finish MSQ

[Gaspard]

Whichever way this turns out, I'm pretty sure that, until we get our next MSQ fix come next patch, all this speculating is somewhat trivial in regards to the RP scenery. So far no clear result/action has been taken, and as such there's nothing to act upon. We know what the Sultana wants to do OOCly, but Icly's nothing changed. 'yet'.

 

However, 'should' things change down for the general RP scope, then yeah, everyone's who's involved in some way with Ul'dahs government will have to figure out a way to adapt his story to the changes appropriately. I guess this especially rings true for the Sultansworn, but that's what happens when you attach yourself to IC NPC's role wise. There's always the probability that something will happen with those characters.

 

Infact, it's more likely that, in progression, the main cast of the NPC's will end up doing drastic/dramatical things, because that is how stories are told in MMO's most times. Kings fall, heroes rise, etc. FFXIV wouldn't be the first to do it, and I wouldn't find it irresponsible on their behalf at all if they end up doing drastic changes to Ul'dah.

 

Also, for the argument that they'd have to re-write the entire storylines and quest lines etc by then ; 

 

Nope.

 

Given the MSQ acts like a progression, It would actually make more sense to keep NPC dialogue etc etc as it is. You 'start' as a hero imbued with the echo, back at that time post calamity, and progress bit by bit in the MSQ up to the current events. You should remember that MMO's don't follow a fixed timeline principle where everyone must, at all times, be present in the very same continuity/timeline with their characters. That's a necessity for Roleplayers, but not MMO's.

[Warren Castille]

So...

 

I'mma just leave this here...

 

And listen to all the minds go pop...

 

Someone has a third eye...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Curious if that's what you think it is.

 

 

Aymeric does say openly that she's not Ishgardian, but I don't think anyone was expecting THAT to be her potential upbringing. You weren't implying it, but I don't think she's a spy. This feels too obvious if that's the case, especially since the MSQ deals with spies in the midst as a theme.

 

Then again, SE could have been pulling a Purloined Letter on us.

 

The fact remains, I want her armor. Err... what was my point again? Oh, right. Can't wait for more content, they certainly gave us a lot to chew on this round.

 

 

2.3 felt disjointed as all hell to me. Just a series of destinations and exposition and Ramoomoo and talking and walking.

 

 

[Coatleque]

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Nope.

 

Given the MSQ acts like a progression,...

 

I knew someone would make this argument, and for the MSQ you are correct. But there are many questlines that fall outside of this progression, such as the Paladin job quests which people -could- do after the MSQ. All of these quests would have to be updated in order to make sense. Even if it's just a dialogue change. But it also would not make sense to keep Jenlyns in the Husting Strip.

[Warren Castille]

It could conceivably get pushed under a rug, but it still seems like a pain in the ass. Jenylns would hold no station any longer, the fugitive plot would fall apart because the Sultanate trying to bring the traitor to justice doesn't exist any longer, and in general the feel would just change immensely. Not saying that's a bad thing; Look at how many class quests are the "this used to be a group, now it's decimated" variety. Paladin would technically be falling in line with those.

 

Just seems strange for one job to get all of the attention in this way.

[Gaspard]

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Nope.

 

Given the MSQ acts like a progression,...

 

I knew someone would make this argument, and for the MSQ you are correct.  But there are many questlines that fall outside of this progression, such as the Paladin job quests which people -could- do after the MSQ.  All of these quests would have to be updated in order to make sense.  Even if it's just a dialogue change.  But it also would not make sense to keep Jenlyns in the Husting Strip.

 

It would make the sidequests story timeline dependent, sure, but that's how it goes usually in MMO's. There's probably various other sidequests that have already been torn apart continuity wise, Or anything featuring garlean commentary. Within the MSQ, you end up defeating Gaius and Ultima Weapon, this in itself probably retcons a handful of NPC dialogue/material aimed at you prior to those events. Ofcourse that's only a theoretical, but I could very well imagine that to be the case. As is with many other MMO's (For example Swtor). Where you have a plethora of dungeons/Quests you needn't run, but which throw the story on its head (For example, you end up killing the Emperor, you end up killing Darth Malgus, all of which are bound tightly in various NPC actions, Main and sidequest alike).

 

I guess the main point to keep in mind is that we as Roleplayers aren't the number one concern, and that continuity needs only to be established within the main characters story progression. If the rest doesn't fit 100 percent, that's something we as roleplayers stumble over, but the rest probably pays absolutely no mind/heed to.

[Sounsyy]

 

Aymeric does say openly that she's not Ishgardian, but I don't think anyone was expecting THAT to be her potential upbringing. You weren't implying it, but I don't think she's a spy. This feels too obvious if that's the case, especially since the MSQ deals with spies in the midst as a theme.

 

 

 

 

He does, and Mr. Sexy Voice tells me I should trust her implicitly, so I want to... but in the denouement "Let Us Cling Together" as Alphinaud and Raubahn are discussing Roaille, they very subtly mention Roaille's possible connection to a plot in Ishgard. I'll get an exact quote when I get home.

 

EDIT:

By whose will was the marshal [Roaille] feeding intelligence to the heretics? Try as I might, I fail to see how aiding their cause would profit either her imperial or Monetarist masters. Could it be that another hand is at work here? If so, Roaille must be made to reveal whose it is.

 

Also, I don't like being told to trust anyone in a movie, book, MMO storyline... ever. That immediately makes me not trust them.

 

 

EDIT! Found text - check spoiler ^

[Kage]

Meanwhile since we're talking MSQ...

 

Anyone else wondering about Aymeric's sword? It looks like a model of the curtana @_@

[Warren Castille]

 

Aymeric does say openly that she's not Ishgardian, but I don't think anyone was expecting THAT to be her potential upbringing. You weren't implying it, but I don't think she's a spy. This feels too obvious if that's the case, especially since the MSQ deals with spies in the midst as a theme.

 

 

 

 

He does, and Mr. Sexy Voice tells me I should trust her implicitly, so I want to... but in the denouement "Let Us Cling Together" as Alphinaud and Raubahn are discussing Raoille, they very subtly mention Raoille's possible connection to a plot in Ishgard. I'll get an exact quote when I get home.

 

Also, I don't like being told to trust anyone in a movie, book, MMO storyline... ever. That immediately makes me not trust them.

 

 

Ooh, good catch. I didn't manage to connect those things at the time.

 

New pet theory: EVERYONE is a secret Garlean, and all of the secret Garlean roleplayers are actually sleeper agents disguised to counteract the empire.

 

Meanwhile since we're talking MSQ...

 

Anyone else wondering about Aymeric's sword? It looks like a model of the curtana @_@

 

I'm guessing lazy palette swaps. Curtana's the only huge one-handed sword in the game like that, everything else is thin or a curved blade.

[Marisa]

Not really related to Ul'dah, but since we're talking about potentially RP-changing 2.4 content,

 

turns out, Aymeric's second in command is not of Ishgardian descent. It's a bit of a different story because she's a proper Hyur, but it hints that Ryoko's whole "black sheep" background may not have quite as much merit as I'd thought. If an outsider can rise to the position of Second Temple Knight, I feel like their xenophobia may not be so strong that they'd actually alienate one of their own for being the wrong race. At least not all of them.

 

 

I think dissolving the monarchy, by choice of the monarchy, is an unfortunate step. I believe full well that Ul'dah should be a republic, but doing it in this manner gives the people nothing to unite around. It should be forged in blood and fire, when the people have grown so weary of the syndicate that they rise up against their masters, and take their freedom by the sword!