balmung Need people's cooperation in FC event in cities being terrorized.

[Aldotsk]

I am sure this will be looked down upon by a lot of players, but this is something that I'd like to focus solely for the FC and my character Anelia if possible. She will be conflicted with one of the most mastermind villain in FC who will attack cities and certain areas with explosives to bring terror to citizens.

 

What I would need are:

• Law Enforcement (Yellowjackets, Wood Wailers, Brass Blades) and other city elites (Immortal Flame, Maelstrom, Twin Serpents, and Sultansworns) who'd be willing to participate in side plot to support and help out this event.
  
• Regular citizens, good or evil - who cares to not see the city be burned or those wants to watch the city to burn. To be in side of the plots
  
• There will not be really any fights like dices or anything. We just need people to panic when we alert everyone OOCly. This is going to be an event for 2-3 days, and when there is an OOC shout alert, we just want people to start ICly panic, react, or smile on it.
  
• This will affect on those who love Starlights (aka Christmas) and then this character will ruin their holidays by terrorizing the streets. 
  

I know this is a bit harsh thing that I am coming up with, but I really want to push it. I really hope that at least many people will at least cooperate for good amount of days if possible.

 

And I assure you, no chocobos, Nanamo or any important NPCs will be harmed from this.

(And you won't either, unless you want to be the victim affected by explosion. I made sure that the charges were set in certain areas that people barely hang out ICly...except Pearl Street)

 

*Note: I am aware that there are those who would not be okay with this because this seems too extreme, but... I'd like to make it somewhat interesting!

 

Again, should you be interested - please please please help out to make this event happen!

 

The story will plan out to be within two weeks.

 

Thank you!

 

EDIT:

For those who are confused with my wordings, you may sign up to be part of the story on pursing to stop this mad criminal. However, keep in mind that the people who participate in this will be limited. (Cannot have 20 people to be involved in story for this over one guy).

[Oli!]

I don't think anyone would look down upon something like this, but considering it's a super specific event for a super specific group of people, others might have a hard time joining in in any way besides being an NPC (which lots of people don't like to do). Maybe reformatting it slightly to make it a little more open could bring in more participants?

 

Either way, I don't actually have any characters that fit what you're looking for here, but best of luck to you anyway! Consider this a bump for the cause.

[Aldotsk]

I don't think anyone would look down upon something like this, but considering it's a super specific event for a super specific group of people, others might have a hard time joining in in any way besides being an NPC (which lots of people don't like to do). Maybe reformatting it slightly to make it a little more open could bring in more participants?

 

Either way, I don't actually have any characters that fit what you're looking for here, but best of luck to you anyway! Consider this a bump for the cause.

 

I would love to have more people to participate and be involved, but I am kind of worried about how many people might end up saying "How come I got casted aside when I was fully participating in this event?". I mean, they can still push it to make themselves be involved in the story, I never said anyone cannot join at all aside from this catastrophe that's about to happen. 

 

Again, you can feel free to say that you want to be part of the story and I'll be obliged to fill you in

[Kage]

I don't think anyone would look down upon something like this, but considering it's a super specific event for a super specific group of people, others might have a hard time joining in in any way besides being an NPC (which lots of people don't like to do). Maybe reformatting it slightly to make it a little more open could bring in more participants?

I don't think it's a case of looking down upon but there's been precedence of the RP community not liking wide spread events that attack common areas. There was once an event where some parts of Ul'dah's water supply was tainted with poison, walls bombed, people dying from it etc. Threads sorta blew up about it. Some people liked it and some people didn't like how you almost -have- to accept that the events happened and how it affected your character or you essentially are in another city/area/timeline continuity.

[Aldotsk]

I don't think anyone would look down upon something like this, but considering it's a super specific event for a super specific group of people, others might have a hard time joining in in any way besides being an NPC (which lots of people don't like to do). Maybe reformatting it slightly to make it a little more open could bring in more participants?

I don't think it's a case of looking down upon but there's been precedence of the RP community not liking wide spread events that attack common areas. There was once an event where some parts of Ul'dah's water supply was tainted with poison, walls bombed, people dying from it etc. Threads sorta blew up about it. Some people liked it and some people didn't like how you almost -have- to accept that the events happened and how it affected your character or you essentially are in another city/area/timeline continuity.

 

This is one part that is a big concern, but I really want to make this event happen. Should it affect you or not is your character's choice. If anyone does not want to be involved during this event, please avoid those areas if possible.

 

Except Sultansworn's hangouts. That will be targeted.

 

And anywhere that any Lalafells with blue/redhair would go to....kidding on that part.

[Warren Castille]

 

Except Sultansworn's hangouts. That will be targeted.

 

 

Before I reply, I need to know how serious you are about this particular part.

[Aldotsk]

 

Except Sultansworn's hangouts. That will be targeted.

 

 

Before I reply, I need to know how serious you are about this particular part.

 

Knowing that I'd be harshly criticized by you (maybe), but I intend to keep that as an agenda. It won't be an actual meeting hall that you see in the story, but it'll be around supposed halls of Husting strips (after all, Ul'dah in actual concept is actually three times larger than what we see in the game when we walk around.

 

 

Reason? Even though Anelia is no loger sworn, this suspect knows that it'll rile her up should he Attack the sworns

[Berrod Armstrong]

Give me a moment to gather my thoughts on this so that I can word them properly...will edit when it's time, or post anew.

 

Okay so here goes:

 

If it's an FC event -- blatantly stated as one, keep it to the FC's canon. Don't force it on the community, that leads to bad, BAD places. Nothing's wrong with a little FC canon! It makes things fun! Nothing is also wrong with recruiting people for NPC-ship or extras for the effect. I bet lots of people would be willing to help your FC out in that way -- in fact, there's an entire FC dedicated to providing NPCs!

 

What is the point, of recruiting people for NPC/Extra effect if the event is going to take place publicly? Why then, must the players involved be told how to react (panic) instead of treating it as their characters would? Why must people who are not involved be forced to avoid the areas this one FC wants to use for their event? I saw Pearl Lane mentioned. My character goes there every day to deliver provisions for the people on the street -- seeing that he used to be one of them. Am I to avoid that area that day, as a non-participant, simply to further your FC plot? PERSONALLY, I'd be cool with bullshitting a reason for Berrod not to be there that day, but what happens after? When it becomes a crime scene and he can't go there, or if the people he's taking care of die in whatever happens. It's affecting my canon, something that should be unrelated to your FC without my consent. 

 

I have my issues with community events affecting cities and water supplies and the tightness of underwear, but I believe it to be a much better approach than this -- simply because it's a matter of it being something for the COMMUNITY. Asking the community to cater to one FC in such a profound manner is...a bit bold.

 

 

It's a pretty crippling oversight, and could be construed the wrong way by a lot of people. Not to mention the thought of consequences. If the Sultansworn area comes under attack and that is allowed to leak OUTSIDE of your FC's canon...would it not be free game to every Sultansworn, Free Paladin and every adventurer under the sun to do something about it? Are preparations in place to deal with very public fallout!

 

 

All those things are very important to consider! Keep in mind this is just some constructive feedback, not trying to flame or anything. 

[Warren Castille]

My reputation precedes me.

 

If it's an FC event, keep it in your FC. If it's a world event, it's best not to dictate how people will be expected to react. It's exceptionally poor taste (in my opinion, obviously) to intentionally target a known, functioning group of players and tell them they don't have to accept this as canon, but you're totally launching an attack on the Sultansworn. This is that ugly "splitting canon" issue that Kage referenced.

 

I don't have to like your concept, and you don't have to care I don't like it. I think there are better ways to tell a story, but don't let me stop you (and knowing that you won't let me is why I'm comfortable talking to you so plainly. It's good you don't give a damn what I say. It's definitely not personal, to boot.)

[Aldotsk]

I think you misinterpreted what I said. I was saying I don't mind criticisms, but chances are that I would like to keep the agenda if possible. People can pretend and be like "what explosions? Are people going insane?" Tone at those who are participating. I personally liked Askiers event about getting affected canonically. 

 

It is FC arc, but how can people just pretend that nothing happened when there would be explosions in Uldah? Which is why I have to keep it in somewhat world event because I have no other choice.

 

And also everytime I try to do some kind of events there were histories about people looking down at my ideas , but I still think it's more of how players view me than how my events are made.

[Berrod Armstrong]

I think you misinterpreted what I said. I was saying I don't mind criticisms, but chances are that I would like to keep the agenda if possible. People can pretend and be like "what explosions? Are people going insane?" Tone at those who are participating. I personally liked Askiers event about getting affected canonically. 

 

It is FC arc, but how can people just pretend that nothing happened when there would be explosions in Uldah? Which is why I have to keep it in somewhat world event because I have no other choice.

Put my thoughts into the edit of my above post, I hope they give a clear picture.

[Unnamed Mercenary]

 

It is FC arc, but how can people just pretend that nothing happened when there would be explosions in Uldah? Which is why I have to keep it in somewhat world event because I have no other choice.

 

That right there is the issue though. 

 

By blowing up Ul'dah, you would effectively split people into two groups: those that accept your storyline into theirs, and those who do not. And that isn't supposed to be a consented choice. 

 

By using a large, public area as the setting, it creates a split in the community. Just like the previous Askier-run event where the water was poisoned, it made a MASSIVE split in the community and even players who do not use the RPC, but RP were talking about it and it was clear that some were uncomfortable with it. 

 

It's basically telling someone they would need to accept your story's injection into their own, and not everyone would want to deal with that. Especially if there is no way for it to be stopped, reduced or otherwise adjusted for the entire community. (And even then, trying to blow something up will 'blow up the community')

 

 

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If this is supposed to only exist in FC-canon, I would say that it cannot also exist in open-world canon, where there cannot be such changes made. At the end of the day/night/scene/whatever, each of the cities' stories is still going to have to be wherever SE has put them, and the kind of changes such an event would have is not within the scope that a RPer could modify.

 

This isn't saying "don't do it", but it is saying "do it carefully, or do it only for your FC". If a scene I had last night with just two other people is any indication, violence in a city will make other people react, and you cannot ask that they just politely do not interfere with a pre-planned story.

[Coatleque]

How the Sworn Saved Starlight.

A new TV special. Tonight at 8, 7 central.

[Flickering Ember]

I would recommend either making the event private or making it completely open to the public. It sounds like playing the role of a NPC citizen doesn't add much aside from atmosphere. That can be done with emotes. I think you will find people will be more ready to participate if their characters can be actively involved.I don't think that public events are a problem. Actually, I think they are great for the community. I just think you should consider what the benefit of a player playing a NPC would be over simply emoting one.

 

But then, I may not understand the event description.

[Aldotsk]

Again, I have not said people cannot be involved. And yes, if I target lore based areas for the FC plot, it does involve everyone and many people will not like it. I just wanted to keep everyone notified that I don't want them to be annoyed or upset like what happened in askier's event. No matter what people say about his event, there were those who liked it, and you can't satisfy everyone in something. I am only giving the idea that I'd want to let people know that is is FC focused but because of what's happening here, it'll affect everyone. If you are affected and you want to be involved, don't hesitate to jump in and talk to me.

 

I liked world events sometimes that have these kind of crisis because I don't always see happy world events that happen all the time. And don't get me wrong. I find jancis's and oscare's events from past few weeks to be amazing and also the ball dances and etc. but why not also have despairing events too?

[Kinono]

And anywhere that any Lalafells with blue/redhair would go to.

 

Well, damn.

[Warren Castille]

There's nothing wrong with despairing events, but going specifically after the Sworn seems like a bad idea, especially because you know there are people playing that role after you had Anelia abandon it. You're effectively forcing every one of them to choose a side, and they're not compatible with each other at all.

 

It's also true that, in a world made up of heroic-figures waiting to play heroes, it's going to be immensely difficult to stop someone who doesn't see this thread on the RPC from wanting to help. If you've got a visible bad guy, expect them to get attacked. It can create some very difficult-to-manage ugliness, and while you're inviting people to contact you and get involved, it still sounds a bit like "But me and mine are the main characters, so we'll be saving the day."

 

There's also the unfortunate implications that come from all three nations being utterly unable to protect their borders and requiring adventurers to have to save them. Part of what made the former bomb incident work was because there really were Immortal Flame roleplayers on the front line, working to help and doing their jobs. This is going to render the Grand Companies AND the cities' respective law enforcement all completely inept until your FC saves the day (across the entire Alliance, no less).

 

I admit there's a lot of grumpy-sounding assumption in this post. There's just a lot of scope here and I'm not sure if you're truly wanting to risk alienating Anelia and your entire FC over this. It's usually a poor idea to write yourself in as the savior of entire countries and/or holidays and expect other people to believe you, hence folks mentioning this might work best as an in-FC story with maybe one or two outsiders, instead of it being an open-world event everyone else gets to watch you win or lose.

 

I don't want you to spill all the details for your event here, but I'm taking "he knows Anelia would get angry if he attacked the Sworn" to mean that this entire incident is over Anelia and your bad guy. It's hard to find folks interested in RPing savior-worship.

[111]

Guys I need help with my plot we're going to drop dalamund on Eorzea again.

 

Participation optional but everyone act really scared.

[Warren Castille]

Guys I need help with my plot we're going to drop dalamund on Eorzea again.

 

Participation optional but everyone act really scared.

 

Do we have to treat it as canon?

[111]

Guys I need help with my plot we're going to drop dalamund on Eorzea again.

 

Participation optional but everyone act really scared.

 

Do we have to treat it as canon?

 

No but Eorzea will be a crater, plz respect and react appropriately.

[Berrod Armstrong]

Again, I have not said people cannot be involved. And yes, if I target lore based areas for the FC plot, it does involve everyone and many people will not like it. I just wanted to keep everyone notified that I don't want them to be annoyed or upset like what happened in askier's event. No matter what people say about his event, there were those who liked it, and you can't satisfy everyone in something. I am only giving the idea that I'd want to let people know that is is FC focused but because of what's happening here, it'll affect everyone. If you are affected and you want to be involved, don't hesitate to jump in and talk to me.

 

I liked world events sometimes that have these kind of crisis because I don't always see happy world events that happen all the time. And don't get me wrong. I find jancis's and oscare's events from past few weeks to be amazing and also the ball dances and etc. but why not also have despairing events too?

I feel the need here to point out the major difference between what you have planned, and what Askier, Oscare and Jancis' events involved.

 

The latter events were designed specifically to treat to the community -- that is, everyone was invited to allow those events to be a part of their characters' canon, and for the events that took place to leave a permanent impression on their character histories -- as well as open up avenues for future action taken by any community members who were interested to pursue. One event was uplifting and cool, and the other was one full of danger and tragedy. 

 

Askier's event had the SLIGHT hiccup of people basically being unaware or non-participating in the very world-changing aspects of it (world as in the general surroundings in which the characters interact). Therefore, the canon existed for some people, and it didn't for others. Still, everyone was more or less agreed on it being a fun idea for the community. I was one of the people who didn't wish to have the poison thing in my canon (for story reasons), but I did enjoy the fact that the community was invited to participate on a lasting basis -- and followed the events avidly!

 

What you have planned is something for your free company. If it is FC focused, then your FC will basically be attempting to place a canon onto the wider community for its own sake. If it was for the community's sake, if the entire community was invited to this plot, it would have been a lot less contentious. As it stands, it is not.

 

After Pearl Lane and the Sultanshack get kerbloozled and your Free Company returns to the arc in it's own halls, what becomes of the outside community characters who have been affected? How will Berrod avenge his Pearl Lane buddies? How will Crofte handle the aftermath of what happened in the Sultanshack? How can one assume that the players of these characters would put themselves in this situation for the sake of an event not made for the community, but specifically tailored to a Free Company?

 

 

One does not just get to say 'It's FC focused, but it'll affect everyone'. That's basically declaring that your FC plot has a hold on every single character who uses Ul'Dah as a setting. It is not so. Therefore, the solution lies within either opening the event to the community, or keeping it within your FC canon. The latter is a bit safer, because it means that the plot will be a bit easier to control. 

 

This isn't a matter of satisfying everyone. It's a matter of keeping things where they belong, and not forcing people to have to deal with making a choice because of one Free Company plot.

[Unnamed Mercenary]

I am only giving the idea that I'd want to let people know that is is FC focused but because of what's happening here, it'll affect everyone

 

I'm not if what I was trying to convey has been interpreted correctly. This is an issue. Right here. Forcing a storyline onto people will inevitably cause issues. I can't tell you how to fix it, but I can point out that it's broken. 

 

This. Is. Problematic.

[111]

Also we killed nanamo and now I'm nanamo.

[Aldotsk]

So what, you want me to fully open it for everyone else so they can participate in it and have more villains be involved too? Because I could literally do that, but I do not wish to keep it on the side of nowhere to have this event to happen.

 

This won't be just Ul'dah, this will be also two other cities too.

[111]

So what, you want me to fully open it for everyone else so they can participate in it and have more villains be involved too? Because I could literally do that, but I do not wish to keep it on the side of nowhere to have this event to happen.

 

This won't be just Ul'dah, this will be also two other cities too.

 

#seriouspost

 

Just don't want you to do anything that will majorly impact the canon, that you will just then walk away from. Events as you describe will effect characters deeply, and the cities as well, they can't really be written off as a one off event.

 

If you instead were speaking of a long term plot, which would progress and have an ending, and all of that, I think people would be less annoyed than 'OMG UL'DAH IS ON FIRE'