Cliques and RP Etiquette

[Val]

I personally would love to see the Adventurer guilds (or the Bismark) get some more use in other cities.  It's kind of a bummer when my non-Ul'dahn alts have to head to Ul'dah for the brunt of most RP.

 

Seconded. It really needs to happen more.

[sforze]

I'm doin' it. I'm gonna start parking my ass at the Drowning Wench until it becomes hip. You saw it here first -- I'm making it A Thing.

[Kage]

So let me ask everyone this as I welcome suggestions for it, I've pointed out several reasons why sometimes it's easy to ignore or miss other peoples' emotes so would people have ways to fix that other than communication?

 

Because those types of things happen in all areas. It's not limited to the Quicksand, Ul'dah, or what have you other places.

[Delilah Scythewood]

Here's a snippet from my FC's Rules and Regulations post that briefly touches on when one has a lack of RP. This is only the first part of it. (Thanks again, Ezhara)

 

Be Constructive, Not Destructive: It is understandable that sometimes emotions get the best of everyone. However, instead of taking out on your fellow members and friends, please maintain a manner of civility and respect, find solutions to problems instead of dwelling on it. Not getting enough RP? Try to think of why. When was the last time you approached or whispered someone for RP? When was the last time you went to a public RP hub and walked up to someone for random RP? Instead of bemoaning lack of RP, get out there and snatch some up! People are friendlier then you think! 

 

We've all been there before, and I know how badly it can stink. Sometimes it's about perseverance. I didn't get any active RP until after I server transferred to Balmung about being in the beginning community on Gilgamesh from September to March. That's almost 6 months of dead end RP, trolling taverns, and other kind of RP that was sporadic or withered and died.

 

I've read through quite a bit on this thread and everyone has a lot of helpful input to give. A lot of suggestions and advice, many of which I don't think are meant to be harsh or critical just like I don't think those coming forth are playing the victim. So best to knock that crap off while it's ahead on both ends. It's just making people look bad.

 

Now. With that being said.

 

Towards the comments about the community needing to do something as a whole about this...

 

One thing to always keep in mind is how many individuals have limited amounts of time on the game. To do runs, to do things with friends or FC members, craft, PvE, PvP, etc. Some of us can stay on the game for hours and hours every single day save when we work or go to classes. Personally I've been in-between jobs and won't be able to job hunt until I move so it's left me with more time then before just sitting here twiddling my thumbs. It's also given me more time to stop and look around for a change.

 

For many of us, it's hard to squeeze in anything new with new characters and their stories. Especially for those of us with limited time to get everything taken care of with those we already share stories with and are associated with. It's not anyone's fault, just the way things are with any community. If someone can manage the time for it, great! But don't get mad for those who can't.

 

New people themselves: There's always this struggle with any game and any community. I've seen it in WoW. GW2. TESO. Aeon. Rift. Everquest. The hardest thing is the beginning establishment phase which can vary in difficulty based on the kind of character you have, the setting you're in, the lore, and finally the community itself.

 

With how big we are as a whole (since I know TONS of non RPC folks as well as RPC), there are plenty of fish in the sea. Someone misses your post? Wait a minute or two, send a whisper. If that doesn't work? Move on. They're obviously distracted with alt tabbing, whispers, chat spam, or are too focused and best not to be bothered anyways. Don't take offense, just move onward. For a dozen people that can't make time there are a dozen more who are clawing at the chance to find someone just like you.

[sforze]

So let me ask everyone this as I welcome suggestions for it, I've pointed out several reasons why sometimes it's easy to ignore or miss other peoples' emotes so would people have ways to fix that other than communication?

 

Because those types of things happen in all areas. It's not limited to the Quicksand, Ul'dah, or what have you other places.

 

We live in an imperfect world where mistakes happen and sometimes messages get missed. There's no way to fix it so that 100% of the people are always there and responsive 100% of the time, without fail, but patience and PMing people seems to be a good first bet.

 

I personally filter my tabs to put my FC/linkshells into a separate window so I can monitor multiple things at once and easily parse through the junk when chatscroll becomes a problem. I also try not to AFK in known public RP places or move myself if I plan to alt+tab and not monitor my screen. I also benefit from a dual monitor setup to where if I alt+tab to check something, I can keep an eye on things on the other screen, so that's pretty helpful. If I come back and see someone is sitting at the same table/looking at me/etc., I immediately apologize OOC out loud to announce I'm back and then try to find if anything's been said. Easy stuff, really.

[DeletedUser]

I personally would love to see the Adventurer guilds (or the Bismark) get some more use in other cities. It's kind of a bummer when my non-Ul'dahn alts have to head to Ul'dah for the brunt of most RP.

 

Yes, please! I've RPed in the Bismarck and Wench but both seem so quiet in comparison to Ul'dah. It's a shame to waste such a beautiful (in my opinion) location.

[Berrod Armstrong]

I personally would love to see the Adventurer guilds (or the Bismark) get some more use in other cities.  It's kind of a bummer when my non-Ul'dahn alts have to head to Ul'dah for the brunt of most RP.

I believe part of solving this problem lies in -not- heading to Ul'Dah. Stay in the other places, emote around, ask a couple friends to join, let it spread!

[Cliodhna Eoghan]

I personally would love to see the Adventurer guilds (or the Bismark) get some more use in other cities.  It's kind of a bummer when my non-Ul'dahn alts have to head to Ul'dah for the brunt of most RP.

I believe part of solving this problem lies in -not- heading to Ul'Dah. Stay in the other places, emote around, ask a couple friends to join, let it spread!

 

i'm up for meeting people in other places if they wish! just let me know stuffs happening and if i'm free; i'm there fast >u<

[C'kayah Polaali]

I personally would love to see the Adventurer guilds (or the Bismark) get some more use in other cities.  It's kind of a bummer when my non-Ul'dahn alts have to head to Ul'dah for the brunt of most RP.

I believe part of solving this problem lies in -not- heading to Ul'Dah. Stay in the other places, emote around, ask a couple friends to join, let it spread!

 

Personally I feel the opposite. I started on Balmung in Gridania (Archer/Conjurer RPer, yo!), and found so little RP around there as to make it practically nonexistent. It wasn't until I went to Ul'dah that I really found any at all.

 

I've mentioned this before, but I'll do it again: The #1 technique I use to find RP is simply to send cold tells to people. If I'm bored and want RP, I'll sit somewhere where there are a lot of RPers (The Quicksand, the main drag of Ul'dah, at the aetheryte plaza, etc) and simply examine people. I'll look for people walking (they're almost always RPers out trolling for RP), or people with some sort of RPish tag in their search info.

 

And then I'll send them a tell.

 

"Hi! I see you're a roleplayer! What sort of RP are you looking for?"

 

Something short and simple. I don't ask for RP - not in that first tell. Instead, I'm just asking what they like. Whoever they are, they're already doing something - they're going to turn in a quest, or looking for RP themselves, or whatever. If I ask for RP right off the bat, then I'm immediately trying to pull them away from whatever that is. Why should they? They don't know me. Asking about what they like, though, takes an interest in them, and tries to start a conversation that is about you listening to them. It's not 100% successful, of course. Lots of people are too shy or too busy or not interested or simply afk. But that's okay, because lots of people will respond to tell you about their RP. Then you can have a conversation about that: What do they like, what do you like, how might your characters run into each other. You're finding common ground, and that often flows naturally into actually RPing together.

[Kage]

^ I don't remember why but Kayah had someone looking for Kage for some reason or another and I wasn't really doing anything... Someone simply sent me a tell. We got to talking and we figured one of the easiest ways for the two to start talking.

 

On another point, it's also -extremely- hard for me to avoid the Quicksand even while not RPing.

 

In my head I know it is an RP hub. It hasn't always been that way for me though. I've always run through lots of things in Quicksand OOCly and before it was always a place for me to just chill. While I've used it for months on end for RP, I've also had it for OOC uses and there are people who do see it that way.

 

A little other anecdote. At one point in time my character was both amnesiac and out of his natural form so to speak. So he was in a different city, wandering around and doing business for the guy who took him in. Things render so nicely I saw certain people I knew RPing around and I thought "wow this could be either a really great RP moment or... maybe not."

 

The thing is I never took that chance to just send a /tell and say something or ask if it was possible to have the character stumble upon them and introduce more drama even though I could clearly see some of the characters though not the text.

 

I play "what if?" with that all the time. It might be beating a dead horse, but even with those who you frequently RP with more often than others, it's always good to have communication.

[Tiergan]

I'm doin' it. I'm gonna start parking my ass at the Drowning Wench until it becomes hip. You saw it here first -- I'm making it A Thing.

 

Now spearheading the "Make All Adventurer Guilds Into RP Hubs" Initiative.

 

New plan: Have terrible, wonderful drinking contests in the Drowning Wench.

[Chris Ganale]

I'm doin' it. I'm gonna start parking my ass at the Drowning Wench until it becomes hip. You saw it here first -- I'm making it A Thing.

You would say that now that I look at my character list and realize I have all of them hanging out in the Gridania/Ul'dah area.

[Klynzahr]

I'm doin' it. I'm gonna start parking my ass at the Drowning Wench until it becomes hip. You saw it here first -- I'm making it A Thing.

 

Now spearheading the "Make All Adventurer Guilds Into RP Hubs" Initiative.

 

New plan: Have terrible, wonderful drinking contests in the Drowning Wench.

 

Count me in!

 

(Once I pay for a character transfer... ahem... yeah.)

[Gurren Dai]

I'm doin' it. I'm gonna start parking my ass at the Drowning Wench until it becomes hip. You saw it here first -- I'm making it A Thing.

 

Now spearheading the "Make All Adventurer Guilds Into RP Hubs" Initiative.

 

New plan: Have terrible, wonderful drinking contests in the Drowning Wench.

I would totally pay to see that.

 

I doubt Solaire would even try it, but I know she'd go to watch!