Griffith!

Did that to me for about... maybe tenish minutes? (was washing dishes and sweeping the kitchen floor), then I happened to glance over and see that I was logged in. Get up and walk away, imo. Lobby error and now I can't connect to the data server again. No good.

What do I do when I'm stuck in the queue and it keeps refreshing to the exact same number?

Yeah, I've noticed a lot of people mentioning being attached to FFVII as their first FF game. Mine was the original, on my uncle's NES. I do not have nostalgia for that one.

Yup. I still can't connect. Are there any RP servers on Primal, because I can connect to that Data Center.

Which old are you objecting to? Because one of them openly admits it's a lie.

I just miss the old turn-based ATB systems. And while no, it may not hurt the game in any way, it doesn't necessarily improve it either. But ignore me, I'm just a crotchety old man (spurious; I'm 27) who doesn't like change.

There is a wiki attached to this forum that has a pretty solid lore section. Also, there's the Final Fantasy Wiki, which is where I've done lots of my own research. And then there's the Lore forum, which has canon lore and lots of speculation.

“We can’t have these upgraded, beautiful 3D models of Cloud and Barrett, still lining up in a row, jumping forward to attack an enemy, then jumping back to wait for their next turn,” Nomura said. “That would be bizarre. Of course there will likely be changes there.” I hate that. Of course we can have them lining up in a row, jumping forward to attack an enemy and then jumping back. There's literally nothing preventing it, except Square's obsession with real-time, westernized action-combat. It's a video game. It is, by it's very nature, abstract.

I understand what you're saying, but irrespective of what point you were trying to make, it is a fair point that VII and XIII are the only two FF games with ethnically African party members. It's actually something worth praising in the hallway simulator.

That... is actually a fair point. Ethnic diversity in RPGs is pretty sparse. So I'll give FFVII and FFXIII credit for that.

From what I've seen it's queues and lag, but I can't access Ishgard yet, so who knows how congested those areas are right now. (My guess? Very.)

Yeah, I can't even use the new content, so I feel kind of double screwed by all the issues.

So my check is in. If I pre-order now, do I still get early access?

That would have been just awesome. Giant women, tiny men. That is what the world needed to see. I would have paid good money to have that combo in game.

Yup. Everyone who has early access. I hate you. Just so we're clear. And I do hate how tall Au Ra males are. Even as I appreciate the sexual dimorphism that is so rare in fantasy settings. They're just... so damn big.

I hear you. But I am going back to Ishgard. The game actually leads you right there. You can't actually not go to Ishgard if you want to advance in the game. Ishgard is just, like, the destination now. But to further address the issue - nobody said my character didn't want to be in Ishgard, defending his home. He was sent away from Ishgard. For whatever reason. So now, they're calling him back. His division of misfits is important now, because suddenly the city is desperate. Suddenly, shit got real. It's been colder since the Calamity, the enemy is on the door step. Foreign Adventurers are coming in to help defend the city. It's endgame. So whatever we did that made us exiles til now doesn't matter. The Ark Knights are going home. Or that was the plan anyway. We are a group stationed away from the Holy See, outcasts and criminals and disgraces, returning to the city with everyone else.

Going to be very blunt, at this point, unless we get proven wrong in a few hours I do not think there is such a thing as non-Ishgardian Temple Knights, unless you wish to have heresy claims and a beheading, hanging or a trip down withdrop following next. I really, really do not think Ishgardians are happy to let outsiders in their sacred order at this point. So ehm. Yeah. Ishgardians do leave the city. Read into the lore and you will see they have business with the other cities. They simply do not go on holidays, fun days off ect. Everything they do has to be in the name of the Holy War. So by your own admission it is possible there could be Ishgardians outside the city of Ishgard. I don't see how that precludes Temple Knights who don't live in Ishgard. They leave the city, ergo, there are some who are not in the city. My character, Lord-Commander of the Ark Knights, is a Temple Knight assigned to a distasteful duty away from the city as a punishment for some sin or infraction. He recruits from a pool of non-Ishgardian soldiers or disgraced Ishgardian Knights to keep his forces up, because it's not like the church is just going to send him perfectly good troops while a war is on. I don't understand the objection anyway. If there is an orthodoxy, there is also an unorthodoxy. Otherwise, why bother stipulating that the church is orthodox? It implies there is more than one faction within the church. So why can't there be more than one faction of Temple Knight? And I'm not worried about anyone crying heresy. Why should they? Because not every member of my division is Ishgardian? Why would they care? We're not even in Ishgard. I should think they'd be pleased, that we can defend non-Ishgardian holy sites without using Ishgardian soldiers. And there are twelve gods. Twelve of them. They can't all have the same tenets in their faith, or why bother having twelve gods? So maybe the followers of Halone, the Fury don't agree with the recruitment practices of my division. But maybe Oschon, the Wanderer is all about it. But even after saying all that, I don't even mind being declared a heretic. In fact, I'm largely okay with the motivational dissonance there. "Kill him, he's a heretic!" "Why? Does he worship the Primals?" "No, he does our job for us!" "..." TL;DR - I get it, you don't want anyone using the name of a canon organisation without being completely within the bounds of said canon. That's why I proposed the change from Temple to Ark Knight. P.S. I am now thinking of calling them - in addition to calling them Ark Knights - the Order of the Southern Sky (again as an homage to my favorite Final Fantasy, FFT.)

You're not wrong. There is no Dalmasca. That was FFXII.

Welcome! Hoping to see you in game.

Inclusion of a plot element new to the series doesn't absolve a game from bad story-telling or boring characters. I'm pretty sure none of the games before VIII had space witches, but that didn't do anything to improve that game either.

Nice play on words. Good on you.

No, no, I'm pretty sure it's neither so good it's bad or so bad it's good. Not even so bad it's bad. Just... so mediocre it barely bares mentioning. I've spent quite a lot of effort ignoring FFXIII, even while it's installed on my hard drive. It's a really pretty series of corridors, but it wasn't anything to write home about. I will say this, though - I did like some of the cast. Like the little chocobo in Sazh's hair. Some of the best dialogue in the game came from that little guy.

I'm not sure what you're saying. Only recruit Elezen and Hyurs? I mean, the point is already to be a branch of the Ishgardian temple knights - specifically, the branch that defends holy sites outside of Ishgard. The only way to be any more Ishgardian is to limit our recruitment practices to those two races and never leave the city walls except to kill a dragon. EDIT: Also, I was thinking about going with Ark Knights, because, first, it's another special character class from FFT, like Temple Knight, and second my name is Arkwright.

Haha... no, they just marry the horses. They draw lots to see which Au ra mates with which Au ra. They don't actually mate with the horses. Ambiguous English for the win, amiright?

The Japanese influence in the Auri names really makes me hopeful that the Samurai job will be in an upcoming update.