Evangeline Durant Posted June 15, 2017 Share #26 Posted June 15, 2017 Personally I have made a character on Mateus away from Balmung. From Balmung I have memories I will cherish and friendships never forgotten. So far on Mateus my experience has been very positive, even if I have not really RPed with anyone due to work. Yet the community and connections I have made have been very positive, everyone is friendly and kind. Yes the community is small but it is growing and I look forwards to see where it goes. Eva~ Link to comment
Crystal Chronicler Posted June 15, 2017 Share #27 Posted June 15, 2017 Since Mateus has been confirmed as a location for free transfers, I'll be moving a couple characters over soon. Link to comment
Heidrek Posted June 15, 2017 Share #28 Posted June 15, 2017 Tell me more about Mateus. Link to comment
GloriousGodfrey Posted June 17, 2017 Share #29 Posted June 17, 2017 2 things, without derailing the topic too much... What's the issue with Balmung beyond it's popularity and difficulty in getting in? Second, how strong is the RP community here? Siren has dried upon at some point between my hiatus and return. Link to comment
M'naase Rahz Posted June 17, 2017 Author Share #30 Posted June 17, 2017 2 things, without derailing the topic too much... What's the issue with Balmung beyond it's popularity and difficulty in getting in? Second, how strong is the RP community here? Siren has dried upon at some point between my hiatus and return. I think a good portion of people leaving right now, are tired of the overcrowding on the server, as well as the absolute lack of housing available. I took a step back the other day when it took me 30 minutes just to get into early access. It dawned on me I wouldn't be able to ever get a house on here if the ques were going to be like this. Took me a long time to decide though... Balmung will always have a place in my heart. As far as rp community, it's rapidly growing as we speak. I see more and more RPers running over to Mateus each day I log on. The LS I have made is gaining members, and I am apart of a couple other LSes that are full of rpers. Plenty of FCS as well! Link to comment
Vexthra Posted June 19, 2017 Share #31 Posted June 19, 2017 I have half the mind to transfer myself. I'll never get housing on Balmung. Link to comment
Valeaux Rillemont Posted June 20, 2017 Share #32 Posted June 20, 2017 mfw friend links me this and is like "you down to go????" Is housing on Mateus open, etc? That's my one concern. My FC has a decent plot on Balmung and we'd like to get one on Mateus at a reasonable rate or even upgrade. If anyone can answer, that'd be helpful. Link to comment
Tayang Posted June 20, 2017 Share #33 Posted June 20, 2017 I haven't been on all day but there were still a scattering of small houses available in the Mists and Lavender Beds this morning, and a mix of mediums and smalls in the Goblet. There are still some mediums popping up now and then too, but they seem to vanish quicker these days so you'd have to keep an eye out and snag one if you see it. 1 Link to comment
Valeaux Rillemont Posted June 20, 2017 Share #34 Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Quote - Thank you! Edited February 8, 2019 by Valeaux Rillemont Link to comment
Cassandra Posted June 20, 2017 Share #35 Posted June 20, 2017 [align=center]I can honestly tell you the community here is WAY BETTER than Balmung. [/align] As fresh Mateus native I personally appreciate any effort to promote the server because more RP for everyone means more RP for me, but this is not the attitude we should be presenting, much less on forums that are so heavily tilted in Balmung's favor at present. Many people who have been helping us here are from Balmung, or are Balmung people rolling alts, or they've moved / will move entirely but still understandably have a soft spot for their original server. Really, people, stop saying things like this. While I've never played on Balmung, I have seen a lot of it due to the person who got me into this game being from there. Mateus is neither better (let alone "WAY BETTER") nor worse. It is different. Let's stop this ridiculous server rivalry trend. Balmung needs Mateus or when it opens again people will flood their server and they'll be right back to the issues they're having now. Mateus needs Balmung if it has any hope of ever having plentiful, varied events and FCs -- though I understand some people would prefer to be an oh-so-exclusively sandbox, but well, I'm not talking to those sorts. I'm afraid you'll just have to learn to share. The focus should be "Welcome to Mateus!" not "lol Balmung suxorz amirite?" To anyone reading this from Balmung who is now concerned about joining us, this is not the prevailing attitude at all. I and many others welcome all of you and have nothing but respect for your server. I just want to state that my intention isn't to say Balmung is a horrid server: In fact I really enjoyed it. But I also want to say that I have had my fair share of bad experiences as well on there. On Mateus I haven't had a bad experience. I'll edit accordingly to not make it sound condescending because that isn't my intention. I wanted to stress the fact that the RP here seems to be a bit more centralized around serious themes versus ERP. That being said, I am here to make RP flourish in any server on FFXIV. I like RP, I support RP. I have no reason to make people think RP is a bad thing on any server. But I do know there is a group of people whom want to get away from the Balmung community because of how toxic some of the groups can be. Not saying everyone on Balmung is horrid obviously, just trying to encourage people who feel like Balmung is their only option to come and try out something that could be a potentially better experience for them. No offense, but how long have you even been on Mateus? The fact you immediately point to ERP gives me the impression your opinion is highly bias since you've already jumped to stereotypes. ERP is nowhere near as prevalent nor do people hound you about it. I get some tells if I idle around Ul'Dah but even those aren't a big deal usually. All that aside, your overall sentiment differs little from Gilgamesh. They tried promoting a rivalry-- an alternative to the cesspool that was Balmung. It wound up alienating like-minded people aka other roleplayers who felt insulted. The inevitable drama that kind of mentality fosters slowly drove people back to Balmung while Gilgamesh roleplay collapsed into itself. The road to hell is paved with good intentions What you're doing is precisely that; good intentions that could lead to alienating other roleplayers who don't want to be apart of a community who does little more than take jabs at how much better they are than Balmung. If Mateus is to succeed, it absolutely needs to do so without those idle jabs. Yes, your experiences on Balmung may be bad, but bear in mind your experiences are also entirely subjective. Simply put, frame your recruitment strategy positively. People like to hear good things, especially about a server they may consider making a character on or transferring. What Balmung is or does shouldn't even be a thought. 1 Link to comment
M'naase Rahz Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share #36 Posted June 20, 2017 [align=center]I can honestly tell you the community here is WAY BETTER than Balmung. [/align] As fresh Mateus native I personally appreciate any effort to promote the server because more RP for everyone means more RP for me, but this is not the attitude we should be presenting, much less on forums that are so heavily tilted in Balmung's favor at present. Many people who have been helping us here are from Balmung, or are Balmung people rolling alts, or they've moved / will move entirely but still understandably have a soft spot for their original server. Really, people, stop saying things like this. While I've never played on Balmung, I have seen a lot of it due to the person who got me into this game being from there. Mateus is neither better (let alone "WAY BETTER") nor worse. It is different. Let's stop this ridiculous server rivalry trend. Balmung needs Mateus or when it opens again people will flood their server and they'll be right back to the issues they're having now. Mateus needs Balmung if it has any hope of ever having plentiful, varied events and FCs -- though I understand some people would prefer to be an oh-so-exclusively sandbox, but well, I'm not talking to those sorts. I'm afraid you'll just have to learn to share. The focus should be "Welcome to Mateus!" not "lol Balmung suxorz amirite?" To anyone reading this from Balmung who is now concerned about joining us, this is not the prevailing attitude at all. I and many others welcome all of you and have nothing but respect for your server. I just want to state that my intention isn't to say Balmung is a horrid server: In fact I really enjoyed it. But I also want to say that I have had my fair share of bad experiences as well on there. On Mateus I haven't had a bad experience. I'll edit accordingly to not make it sound condescending because that isn't my intention. I wanted to stress the fact that the RP here seems to be a bit more centralized around serious themes versus ERP. That being said, I am here to make RP flourish in any server on FFXIV. I like RP, I support RP. I have no reason to make people think RP is a bad thing on any server. But I do know there is a group of people whom want to get away from the Balmung community because of how toxic some of the groups can be. Not saying everyone on Balmung is horrid obviously, just trying to encourage people who feel like Balmung is their only option to come and try out something that could be a potentially better experience for them. No offense, but how long have you even been on Mateus? The fact you immediately point to ERP gives me the impression your opinion is highly bias since you've already jumped to stereotypes. ERP is nowhere near as prevalent nor do people hound you about it. I get some tells if I idle around Ul'Dah but even those aren't a big deal usually. All that aside, your overall sentiment differs little from Gilgamesh. They tried promoting a rivalry-- an alternative to the cesspool that was Balmung. It wound up alienating like-minded people aka other roleplayers who felt insulted. The inevitable drama that kind of mentality fosters slowly drove people back to Balmung while Gilgamesh roleplay collapsed into itself. The road to hell is paved with good intentions What you're doing is precisely that; good intentions that could lead to alienating other roleplayers who don't want to be apart of a community who does little more than take jabs at how much better they are than Balmung. If Mateus is to succeed, it absolutely needs to do so without those idle jabs. Yes, your experiences on Balmung may be bad, but bear in mind your experiences are also entirely subjective. Simply put, frame your recruitment strategy positively. People like to hear good things, especially about a server they may consider making a character on or transferring. What Balmung is or does shouldn't even be a thought. As I stated up above and apologized for, my intention is to not make Balmung seem like a bad place. As I stated before, I was on Balmung for quite a long time and really enjoyed the community, and the ERP aspect didn't bother me there as well. I was trying to give examples of comparisons because I am talking to a vast group of audience members whom may be seeking different reasons for leaving or staying or what have you. I'm not trying to compare honestly. Mateus is going to be a different experience than Balmung, and vice versa. No need to compare, so I see where you're coming from. But I definitely do not bash Balmung in conversation. At the most I may mention the que times just for casual talk, but it's not any jabbing. That's not my intent, and *again* I apologize if I am somehow making Balmung seem like this ultra horrid place to be. Link to comment
Parth Makeo Posted June 20, 2017 Share #37 Posted June 20, 2017 I welcome our new RP pals on mateus. It sucks Balmung is on lockdown but hey! More chances to expand! P.s: before you type you should think how people would react. Going around saying something like 'Hitler did nothing wrong!' And expecting people to ignore that will not fly. Especially on the internet where it can stay archived for a record of history. Thankfully you posted here but if this was 4chan you would be given nonstop abuse. Just a heads up for any future posts you might put up. Always be weary what and how you type :3 Link to comment
M'naase Rahz Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share #38 Posted June 20, 2017 I welcome our new RP pals on mateus. It sucks Balmung is on lockdown but hey! More chances to expand! P.s: before you type you should think how people would react. Going around saying something like 'Hitler did nothing wrong!' And expecting people to ignore that will not fly. Especially on the internet where it can stay archived for a record of history. Thankfully you posted here but if this was 4chan you would be given nonstop abuse. Just a heads up for any future posts you might put up. Always be weary what and how you type :3 Gotcha! I'll take into account what I say more. Last thing I want is to make it seem like i'm trying pit sides or cause drama. I'll keep a look out more! Sorry once again ^^; On a side note, Mateus is growing quite quickly! Happy to see so many new players joining the server ^^ Link to comment
Branson Thorne Posted June 20, 2017 Share #39 Posted June 20, 2017 I really think that everything that should of been said about the opening post, has already been said. Not sure why everyone keeps coming in and repeating the same exact thing over and over. They understand what they did, move on. Ahem, now taking my own advice.... Mateus I'm still a bit undecided on. Growing rapidly, a lot of new sprouts running around. Housing wards are no longer empty and as of last night, maybe a total of 12 plots across all wards/zones. I've not checked the situation with apartments so, not sure what's going on there. My biggest issue with Mateus right now is what appears to be a massive lack of any type of coordination among, well, anyone. I had expected to see RP companies posting up party finders, LS's being announced and such. But instead what I've found is a lot of RPers who have no idea where to go or where to look. So if any of you Mateus FC Leaders see this, may want to start helping out all that fresh blood pouring into your server. Otherwise I fully expect it to fizzle out. Granted, I'm sure that it has much to do with growing pains and it's just a bit of confusion now. Hopefully everything will get sorted out soon Link to comment
Greenley Posted June 21, 2017 Share #40 Posted June 21, 2017 I really think that everything that should of been said about the opening post, has already been said. Not sure why everyone keeps coming in and repeating the same exact thing over and over. Not sure either. Yara has already apologized, multiple times now. All the offended Balmungnites can crawl out of her rear and leave her be now, 'mmkay? The apologies are still valid whether or not you personally got your shots in. For those asking about housing, last I checked, the apartments were still so widely available it's not really worth the time of making a list. But here is the available housing at the time of writing with mediums specified: THE GOBLET Ward 1 12 - Medium 15 18 31 53 54 58 Ward 2 1 6 - Medium 7 11 - Medium 16 17 23 29 31 33 37 39 45 46 47 48 51 53 57 Ward 3 2 9 16 17 21 28 31 32 36 - Medium 39 40 45 46 47 48 50 51 52 53 54 Ward 4 21 23 24 32 33 36 - Medium 39 40 44 46 48 53 57 Ward 5 1 9 10 21 22 26 28 33 34 36 - Medium 44 45 46 47 51 57 58 Ward 6 1 2 3 16 21 31 32 33 34 36 37 38 40 44 47 53 58 Ward 7 9 10 15 17 22 23 26 27 28 31 38 - Medium 39 44 45 46 48 52 53 54 58 Ward 8 1 2 10 16 22 31 47 48 51 52 53 54 56 57 58 Ward 9 1 2 3 4 6 - Medium 10 15 16 17 18 21 22 23 24 28 29 31 34 - Medium 36 - Medium 39 40 46 51 54 57 59 Ward 10 1 2 3 4 - Medium 9 10 16 17 18 22 23 24 26 27 28 29 32 33 39 40 46 47 51 53 Ward 11 1 6 8 - Medium 9 11 - Medium 14 22 24 26 27 29 31 33 34 - Medium 38 - Medium 40 45 47 Ward 12 31 32 33 36 37 38 39 45 46 47 48 51 52 53 57 58 59 MISTS Full, unfortunately. LAVENDER BEDS Ward 1 2 26 Ward 2 14 18 40 50 54 55 Ward 3 12 52 56 Ward 4 9 38 48 49 54 55 Ward 5 24 50 55 Ward 6 22 24 Ward 7 23 44 53 Ward 8 48 55 Ward 9 24 43 44 48 49 Ward 10 23 26 34 40 43 44 50 52 54 Ward 11 10 23 32 43 47 55 56 Ward 12 34 38 43 44 55 56 Link to comment
Koti Nexus Posted June 21, 2017 Share #41 Posted June 21, 2017 I really think that everything that should of been said about the opening post, has already been said. Not sure why everyone keeps coming in and repeating the same exact thing over and over. They understand what they did, move on. Ahem, now taking my own advice.... Mateus I'm still a bit undecided on. Growing rapidly, a lot of new sprouts running around. Housing wards are no longer empty and as of last night, maybe a total of 12 plots across all wards/zones. I've not checked the situation with apartments so, not sure what's going on there. My biggest issue with Mateus right now is what appears to be a massive lack of any type of coordination among, well, anyone. I had expected to see RP companies posting up party finders, LS's being announced and such. But instead what I've found is a lot of RPers who have no idea where to go or where to look. So if any of you Mateus FC Leaders see this, may want to start helping out all that fresh blood pouring into your server. Otherwise I fully expect it to fizzle out. Granted, I'm sure that it has much to do with growing pains and it's just a bit of confusion now. Hopefully everything will get sorted out soon There is an actual project underway to work with coordinating with current FCs that are out there and thus doing world events, however it is going a bit slow due to rl issues and far more rapid growth than really anyone can keep up humanly possible. Given the RPM just had to create a third linkshell and right now, the Mateus HUB is the only large free base of gathering, which the link is always usable, so it can be handed out to any looking to connect with rpers not tied down by community rules: https://discord.gg/HPbYNFU But things are in the works. Link to comment
Belian Lightfoot Posted June 23, 2017 Share #42 Posted June 23, 2017 Just moved to Mateus from Balmung, so far I love it here! Link to comment
Daciana Sangebautor Posted June 25, 2017 Share #43 Posted June 25, 2017 I moved a High level alt to Mateus, it's nice enough so far, I haven't fallen in love with it like I did with Balmung (yet!). I really really really love Balmung, but these queues are just killing me. I'm not techie (or not, not paranoid enough) to do remote log ins from work, nor do I have time to sit there all night waiting to get in., nor is waiting a Month+ to be able to play regularly an option either. I'm really considering moving my main over as well. I love Balmung, but if I can't play what's the point you know? I have connections on Balmung, albeit at this point almost purely OOC and I have nothing on Mateus, so that's the only thing making me hesitate going all in. Link to comment
Lost River Posted June 25, 2017 Share #44 Posted June 25, 2017 While it is all good and dandy for an alternative; I'd rather stay on Balmung; sure the queues are terrible, but it is quite suspect for them to just be so insanely high all of a sudden; and I mean more than even what Heavensward. I don't know, for some weird reason I feel it may be a ploy by SE; even with them calling out the server. *shrugs* Hope you have an amazing time though on Mateus! Link to comment
Daciana Sangebautor Posted June 25, 2017 Share #45 Posted June 25, 2017 Welp I ran into some anti-Balmung people already on Mateus while on my "I just want to play dammit" alt, you know it's going to be really hard to build a great community with these people trying to be divisive like this. So no one thinks I'm blowing smoke. Now with hidden names.. Sorry I forgot, last few communities I was apart of was really big on consequences of actions. My bad. Link to comment
Greenley Posted June 25, 2017 Share #46 Posted June 25, 2017 Mateus already has a great community. Those people are an annoying, vocal minority. Emphasis on the minority. I have and will continue to defend Balmung -- ask pretty much any LS I've been involved with on any of my characters, and I defended it in this very thread too -- but it's getting a bit, no, extremely tiresome to see Mateus' people feeling obligated to come here and repeat over and over (and over and over) again that most of us don't behave this way. It isn't a one way street. Not in the slightest. I have no shortage of stories about obnoxious Balmung people already, people who log on Mateus and demand in map chat we "give them a reason" to stay, as if we're some lowly last resort who must prove our worth to any complete stranger from The Real RP Server who graces us with their presence. This is not something I saw once. I have personally encountered it four times now and have heard of other incidents. There people here on the forums who needlessly dismiss us with words like "temporary" or come off as incredibly condescending, intentionally or not, to our efforts. And frankly, we have gotten our fair share of what I'm going to blatantly deem attention whores from Balmung. I don't mean the people helping us out by running events. I mean the ones who realize the community is smaller and more opportunities are available, so they roll an alt, start an FC, LS, and/or plot(s), then go back to Balmung and only return to Mateus when they need their next fix of the spotlight that for whatever reason they're not getting there. Then they have the audacity to boast they are "helping" us when it is painfully obvious their motives are self-centered. It comes off akin to people who post cringe-worthy paragraphs about BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE!!!1 on Facebook each time they hand a homeless person a sandwich. Some transfers to Mateus are just salty former Balmung people who had one bad thing happen to them and now they trash the server. But there are plenty of people who have either been on Mateus a long time or started there and even though I don't support their bashing, I have come to understand why they might do so whereas I didn't before. I have and will continue to take the "Can we not?" approach when the Balmung hate starts to stir, but I think a lot of transfers or people looking in from the outside are completely clueless as to the nonsense we have to deal with from the other side. Hell, in this very thread, after the OP had apologized, people still jumped down her throat. Because Balmung. I don't mean to ruffle feathers but it's starting to feel as if our valid grievances are being completely overlooked or simply ignored by large margin of people who keep complaining about our Balmung-hate while consistently failing to mention all the good things about us, of which there are many. Most don't even seem to give themselves the time to find the good to begin with. Some don't seem to want to find it and are just looking for "Mateus hates Balmung u gais!" fodder. If you ask me, that attitude is no less divisive and it's about time we acknowledge it instead of just creating an echo chamber of why Mateus is a bunch of meanies who are shooting themselves in the foot. 2 Link to comment
Unnamed Mercenary Posted June 25, 2017 Share #47 Posted June 25, 2017 I'd recommend fully reading Greenley's post above. It captures my views on the matter perfectly. (And sometimes, we need a not-rep visual confirmation of those views.) And this is as a Balmung player. I'm in a couple of the Mateus discords. I have an alt (sadly not being used) on the server so I can walk around myself. I've seen the influx of new people, which is of course, going to stir things up both good and bad. But at the end of it, I want to continue to support the efforts on Mateus. Just -like- Balmung, there are going to be a few sticks in the mud. Find a server that doesn't have any with a population larger than 0. I know that often, we only post about the bad news because if everything's good, there's no reason to complain. But it sets up a difficult hurdle that was never there to begin with. A person having RP issues with socializing will likely have them on any server. The name doesn't matter. Link to comment
Daciana Sangebautor Posted June 25, 2017 Share #48 Posted June 25, 2017 Mateus already has a great community. Those people are an annoying, vocal minority. Emphasis on the minority. I have and will continue to defend Balmung -- ask pretty much any LS I've been involved with on any of my characters, and I defended it in this very thread too -- but it's getting a bit, no, extremely tiresome to see Mateus' people feeling obligated to come here and repeat over and over (and over and over) again that most of us don't behave this way. It isn't a one way street. Not in the slightest. I have no shortage of stories about obnoxious Balmung people already, people who log on Mateus and demand in map chat we "give them a reason" to stay, as if we're some lowly last resort who must prove our worth to any complete stranger from The Real RP Server who graces us with their presence. This is not something I saw once. I have personally encountered it four times now and have heard of other incidents. ..a bunch of other stuff.... Yeah people doing it the other way is just as bad, for my part I've been super quiet and kept to myself mainly just doing PoD to level, but when I go back to town to change my hair or get stuff from my retainers, it's kind of unsettling to run into that. I didn't say anything to the people in question either I just let them be. But my point stands no matter what side it's on, this kind of behavior is extremely counter productive. Link to comment
Kikuo Posted June 25, 2017 Share #49 Posted June 25, 2017 I have been on Balmung for quite a long time and I have to say, I made an alt just to poke around Mateus to see if it's worth the switch and I haven't felt more welcome since I first joined XIV. They're off to a great start and as far as the very small number of naysayers, that's just the internet.. for me, first impressions are everything and I'm happy to say that Mateus is mine and my friend's new home! Link to comment
Daciana Sangebautor Posted June 25, 2017 Share #50 Posted June 25, 2017 I have been on Balmung for quite a long time and I have to say, I made an alt just to poke around Mateus to see if it's worth the switch and I haven't felt more welcome since I first joined XIV. They're off to a great start and as far as the very small number of naysayers, that's just the internet.. for me, first impressions are everything and I'm happy to say that Mateus is mine and my friend's new home! Oh heavens I hope my post didn't seem like a naysayer, I apologize if it did. I'm spending far more time on Mateus than I have even been able to Balmung, and at this point I'm highly thinking of calling my character on Mateus my main, I only brought up and showed that screen shot, because it's unsettling to see that when your happy minding your own business and people crap all over you whether intentionally or not. I highly doubt the people speaking knew I was a Balmung transfer as I ran by, nor do I think they cared, but it's kind of unnerving to feel unwelcomed like that out of the blue. Other than this one experience I've enjoyed my time on Mateus so far and I've gotten a few tells complimenting my character etc. So in no way shape or form am I bashing it, but if problems aren't brought to the forefront they fester and get worse. Link to comment
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