Eorzean Emigrants

[Kamome]

Hello!

 

This is my first post on the RPC. I want to first thank everyone who has made this community so vibrant, welcoming and high-quality. I played FFXI since the PS2 release in 2004 when I was a starry-eyed kid who had grown up with the Final Fantasy games every step of the way. It was my first MMO. I always dreamed of a community like this one where we could share quality stories about our characters and do honor to Square Enix's beautiful worlds. I am looking forward so much to meeting your character and creating memories with all of you.

 

The problem is... I'm having a lot of trouble with a character concept. In FFXI, I played a hume boy who was from Selbina, newly arrived in Bastok with dreams of joining the Bastokan military. This fit really well with the in-game lore. I really find it hard to become immersed in my character if he/she doesn't fit the in-game character origin. I love characters who seem like they walked right out of a Final Fantasy series title and fit well in the established world.

 

I've been playing FFXIV for about a week now, and was planning on writing a civilian merchant character from Ul'dah. The problem is, everything in the game's narrative really seems tailored to a non-Eorzean. The following are my questions for the lore experts who frequent this forum--thank you so much for your time reading this rambling post. I care so much about RPG worlds and lore, and love them very much. I want to do justice to the great work the writers and world builders have done with Hydaelyn, and to this excellent community.

 

1. Are the nations of Doma, Garlemald, Ishgard, Sharlayan and (former) Ala Mihgo considered part of Eorzea? 

 

2. From what I've read, it seems most plausible that Domans would be the most recent wave of immigrants to Eorzea with the Ninja plot line that was recently introduced--do you think there would be fresh Garlean/Ala Mihgan refugees too?

 

3. What do you think about Doman naming conventions? Karasu Redbeak, Tsubame Sunrise and Oboro Moonrise are the primary examples I've found. Do you think it would be too 'special snowflake' to use the surname Sunrise or Moonrise? Do these surnames signify a small family,  personal title, or a clan name, I find myself wondering...

 

4. Sharlayan naming conventions puzzle me, too--Louisoix's name aligns well with what we know about Wildwood names, but his associate, Urianger Augurelt, seems to have a non-standard forename (at least, it doesn't recall French to me). Are there any examples of hyuran names from Sharlayan? It seems unlikely we would see fresh immigrants/refugees from Sharlayan, however... Considering the collapse was over fifteen years ago, in 1562.

 

5. How dominated by the Elezen is Ishgard, exactly? Has anyone put some thought or researched lore regarding the hyur there? Are there hyuran NPCs in-game from Ishgard?

 

6. Do you play a character from Sharlayan, Doma, Ishgard or Garlemald? What's your character's story? Would you like to build a story together with my character as a relative or old friend? I would love to find someone to mentor me in the in-game lore.

 

I am so sorry this became so rambling and has been referenced in older threads, too. I wanted to foster an in-depth discussion on these topics.

 

I am hoping to transfer to Balmung on Tuesday the 20th, after the 3:00am PST maintenance is over. I currently play on Adamantoise.

 

Thank you all so, so much. I can't wait to take my first steps on Balmung!

 

Sincerely,

Rosa

[Aduu Avagnar]

1. Are the nations of Doma, Garlemald, Ishgard, Sharlayan and (former) Ala Mihgo considered part of Eorzea? 

 

 

Doma is a nation from on Othard, with Garlemald being from Ilsabard(sp?) Ishgard and Ala Mihgo are part of Eorzea, I am unsure about Sharlayan

 

 

2. From what I've read, it seems most plausible that Domans would be the most recent wave of immigrants to Eorzea with the Ninja plot line that was recently introduced--do you think there would be fresh Garlean/Ala Mihgan refugees too?

 

 

I doubt it. The refugees fled the invasion of Ala Mihgo, and as it has now been under the control of Garlemald for about 20 years now, I doubt there would be many if any.

 

 

3. What do you think about Doman naming conventions? Karasu Redbeak, Tsubame Sunrise and Oboro Moonrise are the primary examples I've found. Do you think it would be too 'special snowflake' to use the surname Sunrise or Moonrise? Do these surnames signify a small family,  personal title, or a clan name, I find myself wondering...

 

 

 

They seem to have a descriptive surname, so I don't think it would be too snowflakey. In all honesty, we know little about their naming conventions beyond that.

 

 

4. Sharlayan naming conventions puzzle me, too--Louisoix's name aligns well with what we know about Wildwood names, but his associate, Urianger Augurelt, seems to have a non-standard forename (at least, it doesn't recall French to me). Are there any examples of hyuran names from Sharlayan? It seems unlikely we would see fresh immigrants/refugees from Sharlayan, however... Considering the collapse was over fifteen years ago, in 1562.

 

 

 

It sounds french from the way it is pronounced, or at least it did to me.

 

 

. How dominated by the Elezen is Ishgard, exactly? Has anyone put some thought or researched lore regarding the Hyur there? Are there hyuran NPCs in-game from Ishgard?

 

 

 

The NPC for the Dragoon Quest line is a Hyur, I think it is maybe around a 70/30 split? I dunno I think it is majorly in favour of Elezen however.

 

 

6. Do you play a character from Sharlayan, Doma, Ishgard or Garlemald? What's your character's story? Would you like to build a story together with my character as a relative or old friend? I would love to find someone to mentor me in the in-game lore.

 

 

I don't although Nako did spend some time within Garlemald for... reasons...

[Gegenji]

This sounds like a job for the Sounsyy signal, but I'll try to answer what I can.

 

1. As far as I understand, Eorzea consists of the continents of Vylbrand (where the La Noscea areas lie as well as the ruins of Nym) and Aldenard (which consists of Gridania, Thanalan, Coerthas, and Mor Dhona). Doma is on the continent of Othard and is under Garlean occupation, while I believe Garlemald and Sharlayan are also considered as outside Eorzea. Ala Mhigo I believe is still technically in Thanalan and thus also part of Eorzea, but I am uncertain.

 

2. Doma certainly has the most visible wave of refugees thanks to the MSQ and NINJAS, but the crowd of refugees outside Ul'dah and the cobbled together town of Little Ala Mhigo imply that there's still refugees of other sorts. Most of them, I believe, are Ala Mhigan while Garlean defectors would most likely try to stay under the radar due to the conflicts between Garlemald and the Eorzean Alliance.

 

3. I, personally, like good names. I stuck to the Lalafellan method for Chachan since I love the musical approach to their naming conventions, despite the fact that he's also Doman. Along with that, I've seen plenty of what I'm assuming are Domans using very Japanese style names, so I'm sure you'll be fine enough with whatever you go with as long as it isn't... like... Russian or something. :lol:

 

4. Sharlayan is only mentioned in passing... two or three times in the MSQ? So I don't know offhand too many of the naming conventions for those from there. You'd probably be safe enough sticking to the normal Hyur naming conventions if you so desired.

 

5. Dunno! I haven't really checked the ratio of Elezen to Hyur, but now I'm kinda curious! I thought I saw more Elezen in my wanderings around Coerthas, but now I'm not so sure.

 

6. Chachan is from Doma! You can actually read all about him in the wiki page in my signature! He's a Lalafell, though, so having a Hyur relative would require some Lucy-levels of 'splainin' ta do. Still, I count myself among the probably many people willing to help you out where we can. :thumbsup:

 

Hope that helps, and may I extend a super-early "Welcome to Balmung" if I don't run across you on the big day!

[Aduu Avagnar]

This sounds like a job for the Sounsyy signal, but I'll try to answer what I can.

 

1. As far as I understand, Eorzea consists of the continents of Vylbrand (where the La Noscea areas lie as well as the ruins of Nym) and Aldenard (which consists of Gridania, Thanalan, Coerthas, and Mor Dhona). Doma is on the continent of Othard and is under Garlean occupation, while I believe Garlemald and Sharlayan are also considered as outside Eorzea. Ala Mhigo I believe is still technically in Thanalan and thus also part of Eorzea, but I am uncertain.

 

Vylbrand isn't a continent

 

Eorzea is a large swathe of Aldenard, including its islands such as Vylbrand, Ala Mihgo is located to the east of Gridania, and as such was the closest of the city states to the Garlean Empire.

[Kamome]

2. From what I've read, it seems most plausible that Domans would be the most recent wave of immigrants to Eorzea with the Ninja plot line that was recently introduced--do you think there would be fresh Garlean/Ala Mihgan refugees too?

I doubt it. The refugees fled the invasion of Ala Mihgo, and as it has now been under the control of Garlemald for about 20 years now, I doubt there would be many if any.

 

Ah, this is really good to know. I was mistakenly under the impression that the invasion of Doma was recent, not tied to the Ala Mihgan invasion back in 1557.

 

Thank you! I'm going to have a read of your RPC Library entry to see how you've worked your character, too. Really good name!

[Aduu Avagnar]

2. From what I've read, it seems most plausible that Domans would be the most recent wave of immigrants to Eorzea with the Ninja plot line that was recently introduced--do you think there would be fresh Garlean/Ala Mihgan refugees too?

I doubt it. The refugees fled the invasion of Ala Mihgo, and as it has now been under the control of Garlemald for about 20 years now, I doubt there would be many if any.

 

Ah, this is really good to know. I was mistakenly under the impression that the invasion of Doma was recent, not tied to the Ala Mihgan invasion back in 1557.

 

Thank you! I'm going to have a read of your RPC Library entry to see how you've worked your character, too. Really good name!

the invasion of Doma was indeed recent, but I feel that whoever was left after the first wave left would have been slaughtered for their attempt at seceeding from the empire.

 

The people I refered to in my post were natives of Ala Mhigo (the invasion of which was 20 years ago)

 

so I feel I was not as clear in my answer as I could have been.

 

to whit. two waves of imigrants. one twenty years ago from Ala Mhigo. One recently from Doma, and likelyhood of new refugees from Ala Mhigo is low due to the brain washing done by the empire

[Chris Ganale]

Most of the lore-based questions have been answered, so I'll just go of note that I have three Doman characters, one of whom was conscripted by Garlemald for a while before she blew up parts of the Ultima Weapon and peaced out.

[Kamome]

2. Doma certainly has the most visible wave of refugees thanks to the MSQ and NINJAS, but the crowd of refugees outside Ul'dah and the cobbled together town of Little Ala Mhigo imply that there's still refugees of other sorts. Most of them, I believe, are Ala Mhigan while Garlean defectors would most likely try to stay under the radar due to the conflicts between Garlemald and the Eorzean Alliance.

 

3. I, personally, like good names. I stuck to the Lalafellan method for Chachan since I love the musical approach to their naming conventions, despite the fact that he's also Doman. Along with that, I've seen plenty of what I'm assuming are Domans using very Japanese style names, so I'm sure you'll be fine enough with whatever you go with as long as it isn't... like... Russian or something.

 

6. Chachan is from Doma! You can actually read all about him in the wiki page in my signature! He's a Lalafell, though, so having a Hyur relative would require some Lucy-levels of 'splainin' ta do. Still, I count myself among the probably many people willing to help you out where we can.

 

Hope that helps, and may I extend a super-early "Welcome to Balmung" if I don't run across you on the big day!

 

Thank you! Very much appreciated. The Lalafellin naming structure seems very preserved in their societies, so I think you made the right choice. They're native to Thanalan, as a race, I think I remember reading--so I'm guessing your lala ancestors must have emigrated to Doma themselves at some point way back.

 

I'm actually not set on hyur, I just favor them because I like to try all the jobs and find hyur the most 'standard' looking race that doesn't skew visually toward magical or physical jobs (in my own silly head). I ended up with an Elvaan as my final main in XI and was obsessed with Tarus and not only their awesome names but ridiculously cute rhyming speech tics, haha.

 

I'll be reading your profile, too! Thanks again!

[Kamome]

Most of the lore-based questions have been answered, so I'll just go of note that I have three Doman characters, one of whom was conscripted by Garlemald for a while before she blew up parts of the Ultima Weapon and peaced out.

 

Haha, awesome--do you have an RPC Library page set up for them? Link me? I have been reading that wiki like it's homework lately.

[Kamome]

I found this following thread from last year:

 

http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/printthread.php?tid=8610

 

Thank you guys for spelling out the actual continent names there--it's so hard to find information about that stuff online.

 

S-E really needs to give is a bigger map of Hydaelyn like they gave us for Vana'diel in FFXI:

 

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[Sounsyy]

1. Are the nations of Doma, Garlemald, Ishgard, Sharlayan and (former) Ala Mihgo considered part of Eorzea? 

 

The fallen nation of Ala Mhigo, the abandoned city-state of Sharlayan, and Ishgard are all Eorzean city-states.

 

Old Sharlayan, on the other hand, is on an island in the Bloodbrine Sea, north of Eorzea and is not a part of Eorzea. The city-state of Sharlayan was abandoned after the fall of Ala Mhigo and peace negotiations with the Garlean Empire failed. These Sharlayans retreated to their island home, leaving Eorzea behind.

 

Doma is an Imperial Province on the Great Continent Othard. It is also commonly referred to in game as the "Far East." Recently, Doma was made example of by the Empire and was razed, hence the massive influx of Far Eastern refugees.

 

Garlemald is the capital of the Garlean Empire and is situated in the Northern Great Continent Ilsabard.

 

 

2. From what I've read, it seems most plausible that Domans would be the most recent wave of immigrants to Eorzea with the Ninja plot line that was recently introduced--do you think there would be fresh Garlean/Ala Mihgan refugees too?

Domans are the most recent refugees of the Empire. There are also Ala Mhigan refugees in Eorzea who were displaced when the Empire occupied Ala Mhigo 20 years ago. Since that time, Garlemald errected a gigantic wall around the fallen city-state, preventing any from entering/leaving. There have been rescue attempts and assaults on Ala Mhigo by a faction called the Ala Mhigan Resistance, but without success and have sustained heavy losses.

 

3. What do you think about Doman naming conventions? Karasu Redbeak, Tsubame Sunrise and Oboro Moonrise are the primary examples I've found. Do you think it would be too 'special snowflake' to use the surname Sunrise or Moonrise? Do these surnames signify a small family,  personal title, or a clan name, I find myself wondering...

 

Not sure on official naming conventions. But Doma appears to be heavily Japanese-based, so could use that as a point of reference.

 

4. Sharlayan naming conventions puzzle me, too--Louisoix's name aligns well with what we know about Wildwood names, but his associate, Urianger Augurelt, seems to have a non-standard forename (at least, it doesn't recall French to me). Are there any examples of hyuran names from Sharlayan? It seems unlikely we would see fresh immigrants/refugees from Sharlayan, however... Considering the collapse was over fifteen years ago, in 1562.

 

Naming conventions for Sharlayan are more likely to follow standard Eorzean naming conventions based on race more so than nationality. So Louisoux's name follows the french Wildwood naming conventions. As for Urianger, who is a Duskwight, he may have a bastardized "French" name as Wildwood and Duskwight do not ever share family names. But I'm not very well versed in the French language to say how French Urianger's name actually is?

 

5. How dominated by the Elezen is Ishgard, exactly? Has anyone put some thought or researched lore regarding the hyur there? Are there hyuran NPCs in-game from Ishgard?

 

Ishgard is predominantly Elezen, though there are Hyur who are Ishgardian as well. Ishgard is made up of several Noble Houses, which are all Elezen (and only one is Duskwight). There do not appear to be any Noble Hyur, but that does not mean it isn't within the realm of possibility. We'll likely get loads more lore on Ishgard when Heavensward drops later this year.

 

6. Do you play a character from Sharlayan, Doma, Ishgard or Garlemald? What's your character's story? Would you like to build a story together with my character as a relative or old friend? I would love to find someone to mentor me in the in-game lore.

 

While I don't play a character from any of these places, I do play a refugee from Ala Mhigo.

 

All this said, unless it's what you want to do, you don't have to roleplay an immigrant to Eorzea. There are many people who roleplay Eorzean natives. It's perfectly acceptable.

 

 

Hope this helps! ^^ If you have any more lore questions feel free to ask!

[Kamome]

Greatly appreciated, Sounsyy. Your answers are extremely helpful. I believe it would probably be a very solid education in lore to start going through your old posts!

 

I am considering very much just disregarding the in-game lore bits about not being from Eorzea. Or just making a character who has lived a lot of their life at sea as a pirate or trader or something along those lines. 

 

Thank you again! I will surely be asking more questions... But much more succinctly!

[Kamome]

Oh, Sounsyy, also! You are absolutely right about Urianger! I didn't even think about the Duskwight naming conventions. I am a French-speaker and have noticed the major difference between Wildwood and Duskwight names is that Wildwood names skew toward Medieval French, and Duskwight names, including the Ishgardian noble house of Dzemael, sound like gallicized (frenchified) North African or possibly Basque words.

 

"Standard" French, especially old French, doesn't make common use of 'z's--but as you can see in these Basque names below, it does quite extensively. The Basque are also known as mountain-dwellers of France's southern mountainous regions. Maybe they were S-E's inspiration? Or maybe the Visigoths?

 

http://www.behindthename.com/names/usage/basque

 

His surname, Augurelt, is definitely in-line with what a lot of Medieval French/Gaulish surnames sound like, for the record, though.

[Aduu Avagnar]

Quick note about my character. There is little in the way of history prior to the events of the game, such as his time in Garlemald. I like to let that stuff come out in game.

[Kamome]

Quick note about my character. There is little in the way of history prior to the events of the game, such as his time in Garlemald. I like to let that stuff come out in game.

 

Ah, no worries. I completely agree with that method of RP. I like RPC Library pages that give just enough info to pique interest--history is best when it comes out in active storytelling I think! That's what's so awesome about RP!

[Sounsyy]

This sounds like a job for the Sounsyy signal, but I'll try to answer what I can.

 

1. As far as I understand, Eorzea consists of the continents of Vylbrand (where the La Noscea areas lie as well as the ruins of Nym) and Aldenard (which consists of Gridania, Thanalan, Coerthas, and Mor Dhona). Doma is on the continent of Othard and is under Garlean occupation, while I believe Garlemald and Sharlayan are also considered as outside Eorzea. Ala Mhigo I believe is still technically in Thanalan and thus also part of Eorzea, but I am uncertain.

 

Sorry Chacha but had to correct this a bit. ;P

 

Geography lesson!

 

There are three (3) Great Continents: Aldenard, Ilsabard, and Othard. Aldenard to the West, Ilsabard to the North, Othard to the East.

 

"Eorzea" is a region consisting of the continent of Aldenard and its surrounding islands: Vylbrand, Cieldalaes, Bianaq, Mazlaya, and The Pearl.

 

Within Eorzea there are(were until recently) six city-states controlling regions of Eorzea.

1) Ul'dah controls the southern, desert region of Thanalan. The Sagolii Desert on the Southern borders of Thanalan is controlled by the Amalj'aa as well as Paglth'an to the East.

 

2) To the Northeast lies Gridania within the Black Shroud. Surrounding the Black Shroud or "Twelveswood" is a magical barrier called the Hedge.

 

3) Further East lies the region of Gyr Abania, formerly controlled by the Kingdom of Ala Mhigo. This region lies in the foothills of the Xelphatol Mountains to the far north of Aldenard, reaching up into Ilsabard via the landbridge.

 

4) Moving West from Gyr Abania into the Xelphatol Mountains lies the Holy See of Ishgard. This nation sits upon the peaks of Xelphatol and on the southern rim of the Sea of Clouds, a vast expanse of clouds separating the Farreach from the rest of Eorzea.

 

5) Further West from Ishgard, on the edge of the Dravanian borders lies the abandoned city-state of Sharlayan. This city was established by immigrant Sharlayans from the island of Sharlayan in the North Seas of the Bloodbrine with the purpose of studying Eorzean culture. They fled back north to their island home after peace negotiations failed 20 years ago.

 

6) South across the Indigo Deep from Sharlayan lies the Thalassocracy of Limsa Lominsa. Until recently, Limsa Lominsa did not claim dominion over any of the La Noscea region, but instead controlled all Eorzean waters and protected trade routes in the Five Seas. The region of La Noscea, which consists of the portion of Vylbrand south of Mount O'Ghomoro, was (until about 10 years ago) controlled by the Kobolds.

 

 

Going beyond Eorzea and the other Great Continents, there are some additional continents and islands of note:

1) Across the Sea of Jade to the East of Gyr Abania lies the island nation of Thavnair, commonly referred to as the "Near East." This island lies somewhere between Aldenard and Othard in the Jade Sea.

 

2) To the far South across the Rhotano Sea lies the continent of Meracydia. All we know about this continent is that 5000 years ago it was once at war with the Allagan Empire and was the only place the Allagans had not conquered in their pursuit of world dominion.

 

3) To the far west across the Indigo Deep lies the "New World," a mysterious continent discovered by Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn in the Year 1556 of the Sixth Astral Era, before she became Admiral. We don't know much about the place other than it's where popotoes come from and it may be the Miqo'te home continent.

 

4) There's also mention of a floating continent called "Ayatlan" in the Ixali tongue, but (and there are several theories on this!) may become readily known as "Aeolia" when Heavensward drops later this year. This continent is believed to be the sacred birthplace of the Ixali and is only accessible by flight.

 

 

They're [Lalafell] native to Thanalan, as a race, I think I remember reading--so I'm guessing your lala ancestors must have emigrated to Doma themselves at some point way back.

 

Wanted to make a quick point of this. There are no (known) native races to Eorzea. Lalafell immigrated to Eorzea many thousands of years ago from the islands of the South Seas and beyond. This has led to the belief that Plainsfolk originate from the Cieldalaes and Dunesfolk are from Meracydia's northern coast or from another South Seas Isle that is a desert.

 

Elezen are from the northlands, so Ilsabard. Roegadyn are a sea-faring folk from the North Seas of Bloodbrine who settled in the Farreach of Agalathia's Spine in the Xelphatol Mountains. Miqo'te journeyed to Eorzea via a landbridge during the Age of Endless Frost 3000 years ago. And Hyur are the most recent immigrants, coming to Eorzea roughly 1000 years ago from the East.

 

 

Oh, Sounsyy, also! You are absolutely right about Urianger! I didn't even think about the Duskwight naming conventions. I am a French-speaker and have noticed the major difference between Wildwood and Duskwight names is that Wildwood names skew toward Medieval French, and Duskwight names, including the Ishgardian noble house of Dzemael, sound like gallicized (frenchified) North African or possibly Basque words.

 

"Standard" French, especially old French, doesn't make common use of 'z's--but as you can see in these Basque names below, it does quite extensively. The Basque are also known as mountain-dwellers of France's southern mountainous regions. Maybe they were S-E's inspiration? Or maybe the Visigoths?

 

I did not know this! But this is super cool! =O It's quite possible that was their inspiration, as this fits very well with lore.

[Kamome]

You are my lore hero.

 

Seriously thinking I need to draw out a map for myself to keep track of what we know about the geography of Hydaelyn. Are most of your sources item descriptions from in-game? I remember in FFXI we had zero idea about a lot of world geography save a handful of item descriptions. That is, until S-E gave us the world map around the time the Aht Urghan expansion arrived.

[Sounsyy]

You are my lore hero.

 

Seriously thinking I need to draw out a map for myself to keep track of what we know about the geography of Hydaelyn. Are most of your sources item descriptions from in-game? I remember in FFXI we had zero idea about a lot of world geography save a handful of item descriptions. That is, until S-E gave us the world map around the time the Aht Urghan expansion arrived.

 

Yeah, much like XI, XIV's lore is very spread out in little snippets all over the place, so piecing it together is a ton of work. I was working on doing this myself, but then my laptop got stolen and I lost a huge amount of work on the project. Haven't really gotten around to picking it back up honestly.

 

As for a world map, I've actually conceptually made one to the best of my knowledge. Naturally, the continent shapes are theoretical, but Fernehalwes confirmed plate tectonics and continental drift, so I've actually shaped the continents with that in mind as if they fit together like puzzle pieces.

 

But we have enough lore to piece most things together.

[Kamome]

If you'd ever be interested in getting a Google Doc going and want any help documenting the lore, Sounsyy, I would love to help out as soon I have more in-game experience and community cred. Have you posted your approximate map anywhere on the forums? I ran a search and couldn't find it.

 

Anyroad, a giant thank you to everyone who posted in this thread. I feel so much more confident about being able to RP within the lore, now, and a lot less nervous about finalizing a character. 

 

Someone PM'd me and explained that character transfers aren't affected by the creation restrictions so I may be arriving on Balmung over the weekend (I originally planned to smuggle a new character on after maintenance on the 19th).

 

Nako'li, Gegenji, Chris and Sounsyy--thank you so much for your time answering my newbie questions. See you in Eorzea soon and around the forums, too!

[Seriphyn]

 

Within Eorzea there are(were until recently) six city-states controlling regions of Eorzea.

1) Ul'dah controls the southern, desert region of Thanalan. The Sagolii Desert on the Eastern borders of Thanalan is controlled by the Amalj'aa.

 

Actually, you mean Paglth'an, which is a grassland region to the east of Thanalan!

[Kamome]

 

Within Eorzea there are(were until recently) six city-states controlling regions of Eorzea.

1) Ul'dah controls the southern, desert region of Thanalan. The Sagolii Desert on the Eastern borders of Thanalan is controlled by the Amalj'aa.

 

Actually, you mean Paglth'an, which is a grassland region to the east of Thanalan!

 

Oh, nice--this is super useful. I was wondering about that. Sagolii is in the game, and puny, right? The character I had intended to be my main has a lot of background involving (attempting) fighting the Amalj'aa so I've been trying to gather up more information about them, militarily-speaking.

 

Thanks, Kale!

[Hyakki]

the invasion of Doma was indeed recent, but I feel that whoever was left after the first wave left would have been slaughtered for their attempt at seceeding from the empire.

 

The people I refered to in my post were natives of Ala Mhigo (the invasion of which was 20 years ago)

 

so I feel I was not as clear in my answer as I could have been.

 

to whit. two waves of imigrants. one twenty years ago from Ala Mhigo. One recently from Doma, and likelyhood of new refugees from Ala Mhigo is low due to the brain washing done by the empire

Domans are still escaping by ship, as of 2.4. (talking to NPCs is important)

 

Tsubame returns to Doma.

 

[Sounsyy]

 

Within Eorzea there are(were until recently) six city-states controlling regions of Eorzea.

1) Ul'dah controls the southern, desert region of Thanalan. The Sagolii Desert on the Eastern borders of Thanalan is controlled by the Amalj'aa.

 

Actually, you mean Paglth'an, which is a grassland region to the east of Thanalan!

 

Oh, nice--this is super useful. I was wondering about that. Sagolii is in the game, and puny, right? The character I had intended to be my main has a lot of background involving (attempting) fighting the Amalj'aa so I've been trying to gather up more information about them, militarily-speaking.

 

Thanks, Kale!

 

Paglth'an is the Amalj'aa homeland, which lies across the Bay of Dha'yuz. However, after the summoning of their god, Ifrit, the Amalj'aa have invaded Thanalan and claimed the southern reaches of Thanalan and the northern reaches of the Sagolii Desert as their own, naming the region "Zahar'ak" which means "Land of Perseverance." They believe this land is blessed by Ifrit and seek to rid it of taint. ie. Ul'dah.

 

EDIT: fixed. Kale is correct. Paglth'an is east of Thanalan, Sagolii is south. I should not try to lore and coil at the same time. Doesn't work well obviously. Also, edited my post to detail more about Paglth'an and Zahar'ak.

[Aduu Avagnar]

I bow to superior knowledge relating to the domans. I must admit I have put less efforts there tha  in other areas of lore

[Kamome]

 

Within Eorzea there are(were until recently) six city-states controlling regions of Eorzea.

1) Ul'dah controls the southern, desert region of Thanalan. The Sagolii Desert on the Eastern borders of Thanalan is controlled by the Amalj'aa.

 

Actually, you mean Paglth'an, which is a grassland region to the east of Thanalan!

 

Oh, nice--this is super useful. I was wondering about that. Sagolii is in the game, and puny, right? The character I had intended to be my main has a lot of background involving (attempting) fighting the Amalj'aa so I've been trying to gather up more information about them, militarily-speaking.

 

Thanks, Kale!

 

Paglth'an is the Amalj'aa homeland, which lies across the Sagolii desert. However, after the summoning of their god, Ifrit, the Amalj'aa have invaded the Sagolii desert and claimed the southern reaches of Thanalan as their own, naming the region "Zahar'ak" which means "Land of Perseverance." They believe this land is blessed by Ifrit and seek to rid it of taint. ie. Ul'dah.

 

So, I did mean what I said. Yes, you are correct in that the Amalj'aa are from Paglth'an, which they still control, but they now also control a large portion of the Sagolii desert. Sorry if my original statement was confusing. ^^;

 

Oh, that makes sense. Wait--is Sagolii the (contested) border between Thanalan and Paglth'an, then? Or basically like a militarized zone like Kashmir?