Kashemia

Saying that rp relationship have all the bad things about a real relationship, and none of the good things, is basically saying that the only good thing about a relationship is sex. Anyway, your post made me think about something, Xaefan. I very rarely see unreturned love in roleplay. I guess it's because we don't want to see our characters hurt or something, but alot of the time, it seems like, if the crush isn't returned, our characters moves on rather quickly! It's something I've been wanting to give a spin for a while, just haven't had a character that really would have a "crush" on anyone for a long time.. Maybe XIV is the chance ^^

It is a good idea to add people in the timezone to your friendlist, especially with this few people from Europe. Chances are, that a lot of events will happen in the middle of the night for us, so if we can arrange stuff in timezones that fit us more from time to time, it would be great Of course including all Americans who are on at the same time! It's not to exclude anyone. just because I know how much it can suck to be the only one from a completely different timezone, I missed so many events in Aion

Bela Lugosi ftw!

One thing I don't agree with is that you only get the bad sides about a relationship and not the good ones. Even the bad sides can be interesting and funny to play out, exactly BECAUSE they're not happening to you. Also, I don't agree that partners IRL playing relationship IC is silly <.< For pretty much the same reason that he states you roleplay relationships at all; It's something else. Not having a dramatic relationship myself, it can be interesting to roleplay that sort of stuff out, just to try something else

When I just read the quote here, I was thinking that that was a really narrow minded way to look at it, but reading the entire article, I pretty much agree... It's never as black/white as to say it's either a brilliant idea or a terrible idea, always. For some, it will never work, it will always be a lot of drama, for others it might work some of the time.

Yeah.. I don't actually say "ewer" though, that one was just for the effect <.<. I do say willain though, though I'm trying to correct myself when I do it

*Starts collecting an army of zombie slaves under her spell* Soon, the world will be mine! I am the greatest willain ewer made!

How weird that sounds, it's actually true <.< It was really creepy, this guy came up to me the other day and told me that I should "share my love with ALL men" and then kept trying to hug me and kiss my neck (I think that was the only place he could reach, he wasn't very tall)... BUT talking about mispronounciations, mr. Rød. (Just to furthely go on a tangent, the danish word for red is really hard to prenounce for english speaking people, and it will often come off as the danish word for "ass" <.<). Aaaand back on topic: I actually spelled it colour for a long while too. In Denmark, we're taught british rahter than american, but since we watch so many american movies and stuff, it's usually a mix, so I'm never quite sure.

Hehe, I think I was the one who got to see most of his weird sides ^^ I still have his and Eden's argument when he was trying to teach her to fight, it's a lot of fun to read.

Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but I talk a lot less with my sister since we both moved away from home and now live in different cities. We talk over the phone, sure, but we don't see each other THAT often. In a world where the phone doesn't exist, I can't imagine it being much easier, so I'm sure it's possible to come up with a reason for siblings to drift apart

Averis and me are going to do it in FFXIV as well, my character Seraj being the older sister and his character Azia being the younger. From what we've been discussing so far, it's going to be a pretty interesting dynamic, since Azia in some ways are probably more responsible than Seraj. I've done it once before, we did a lot of planning before we started, and it worked fine, it was a lot of fun and pretty interesting. But both of those characters were adult, so it might be slightly different.

This is going to sound weird, but it's more of a pronunciation thing. I for some reason always pronounce V as W... My boyfriend used to ask if was because we pronounce it like that in danish, but I think it's the opposite. We don't really use the w, or the w sound in danish, so I just sort of replace ALL v's with w's (which in danish is called double-Vs). Apparently, it makes it rather funny when I say "Willain" <.<

Very very good point. I think I used the "seperating IC and OOC" line too, but you are absolutely right, it's not black/white. Even if we don't feel that our characters are us self, they are often someone we care about, and why shouldn't you? you spend a lot of time "in their shoes"... What I think most people know when they talk about separating IC and OOC, is to know when a conflict is between the characters, and between the people playing them. Same with relationships. It is also one of the reasons why I prefer having an OOC guild chat for instance, because not only with relationship, but with rp in general, to me, when it's people I roleplay a lot with, it's really important to know the people behind the character as well, so you can stay on the same page, and I think that avoids a lot of misunderstandings.

*Is so going to start doing that, just to freak out Iroh*

Well, to be completely honest, it's not just online. Drama follow some couples everywhere. I've known people freaking out because their partner had friends of the opposite sex, glanced in the direction of an attractive woman on the street or commented that an actor/actress was pretty. It does seem to be very common on the internet too though. And Goliam: Oh yeah, I'm just waiting for hell to break lose personally.

Heh, well, don't be too scared. I haven't had very many RP relationships, but for those I've had, I'm still very good friends with the "other part". It's not always terrible, you just have to chose your "partner" well... Make sure that you're on the same page, etc. I'm worried that these threads start sounding like all I do is rp romance <.< I really don't!

Yeah, that was pretty much what I was trying to say... Except in fewer words <.< That people who get upset over their partner in roleplay will probably get upset no matter if they're roleplaying a relationship or not. I should start summing up my posts, I always babble so much that I think the point get lost somewhere in there.

Heh, I'm just gonna comment on what Castiel said first. In most cases, I completely agree, I think people have a hard time seperating IC and OOC, and I've seen it first hand, where a girl got mad at me because my character danced with her husbands character at a party. There was no flirting, they barely spoke before or after, and yet, she got angry. However, being engaged to a guy who quite possibly played the biggest tail chaser I've seen (Yes, Vahsyl), I'll have to say that it CAN work. It takes a lot of trust, but it's not something I've ever had an issue with. We have played relationships, we've even roleplayed sort-of-relationships-while-at-the-same-time-flirting-with-other-characters. It works because we talk about it and make sure that neither of us cross the limit to what the other person is comfortable with. When we roleplay relationships, they are NEVER like our relationship. IRL, we never argue, we're quite annoyingly happy with eachother really, yet the rp relationships we've played has.. Never really panned out because they take ages to get started, because, well, they're never easy. I can't think of one time we've been even close to what we have in real life. We're also both extremely aware of not isolating us self when roleplaying. Another thing is, that while I possibly roleplayed romance with others in the past, my fiancé is just the person I right now am enjoying playing with the most. It doesn't mean that we don't roleplay with others, it doesn't mean that we will roleplay romance in XIV, but if it happens, I'm not gonna feel bad about it, because I know we can handle it. Another comment to that is, that to the people who get upset about stuff like for instance your character IC'ly flirting with their girlfriends char or something, it would really help if they weren't playing a couple. It would probably be just as big a problem if they were not roleplaying a couple and you flirted with her char. Some people just can't figure out how to seperate IC and OOC, and it has nothing to do with being/roleplaying a couple So yeah, this was just to show that while it very often can go wrong, and I've seen it too, it can work as well, you just have to have the right attitude about it

I think preform might just be an error? I know the word exist, but I don't think you can use it instead of perform... I think it's more a pre-form thing... Like forming something in advance? The one thing that really gets to me is excape. When people say that, it always makes me cringe.

Back when I first started playing MMOs, people would always make fun of me for writing "Maybe it was something ells". Yes, I spelled else "ells" for a long time <.< But that's many years ago I'm always worried that I'll spell definitely wrong, so I look it up a lot, but I never do.. Spell it wrong... So I guess I should just trust more in myself When I started playing on American servers in Aion, I was always a bit worried that people would notice my spelling errors a lot more and look down at me or something. On the EU servers, people are used to everybody having different nationalities, so even though most do their best with writing English, few have it as their first language, and I thought people would probably be more forgiving there, than on the US servers. I was positively surprised. I only ran into one guy felt is was his mission to correct me when I spelled it gray instead of grey and other similar things, all of them I think a question of British vs. American spelling.

A wiki would be great, I used to use Wowwiki a lot too back when I started roleplaying, and it's something I've missed in most games so far. And I agree with Armaicha, it would be better to have one big that we can all work together on and share, than a lot of smaller ones.

Hehe, well, my mistakes with to/too are mainly when I write really fast too. I don't have problems remembering when it's one or the other, I just don't always notice that I've written it wrong ^^ It's interesting though, these common mistakes. We have them in Denmark too, people have a hard time with when to use "ligge" (when something is laying, like the book is laying on the table) or "lægge" (to put something down, like I put the book on the table). They sound almost identical in danish.

I have some issues with its/it's too. And apparently too/to it would seem on my subject title, but I usually know that one <.< Sometimes, it actually surprised me how many people seem to have problems with things like there/their/they're, it's not something I personally find difficult, though english is not my first language. But that might be exactly it, I probably try harder to be correct than many, because I know I make mistakes <.< And we have things like that in danish too, things that no one can ever spell right.

There's not one deity that fits Seraj to the spot, so I'm not completely sure about it yet. Being a Seeker, she will show her respect to Azeyma, but in her day to day business, she'll probably more look to Nymeia (though probably in a slightly different way than most) and Orschon.

I've had many starting romances, and few relationships. It's probably because I usually don't play characters who are very prone to have a relationship, so when they start romance, it take AGES, and by the time they're actually close to being a relationship, something happen and one of us quit the game or something Interestingly enough, I don't think I've ever had more than one public romance either, for one reason or another, someone always feel that the romance have to be kept hidden. That can be a lot of fun too, making subtle hint without making it obvious, etc. ^^