SaintEaon

People tend to make me feel like Tywin Lannister and the rest of the world are my children and I am so, so disappointed so often.

Similarities: Both in our early twenties Rae, like myself is prone to lashing out in anger Rae like myself is an idealist Rae like myself feels there is always a right and wrong thing to do, regardless of if you know what that thing is Differences: Rae has a hard time staying faithful in a relationship Rae gets relationships Rae will seek you out to hurt you, I don't look for problems, and I'm more likely to DDoS or Dox someone than hurt them Rae is very very brute force minded where as I'm very strategic If Rae thinks you're a bad guy and has some proof that you might be, he will continue to poke and prod at you until you explode and prove his point Rae can lose his sense of humor easily, I always find something to joke about.

Welcome to the game ^.^ You can find me in game under the name Raeaon Norellia, I'm down for pretty much any RP and I'd be happy to help you find other RPers be they ERPers or otherwise and help you get a foothold in the RP community. I'm on basically all the time but I got some Military shit to do after work so I wont be on till later tonight (well later than usual for me), but feel free to add me or message me. EDIT: Oh you're on Adamanoise not Balmaung...oops. IGNORE ME.

Its an asspull to say this power that can change minds only works in the exact center of a chest and also cares if whatever its touching naturally belongs to the person or not. I mean starks was metal and Not-Green-Arrow's was fabric, how come it worked on one but not the other. That's an arbitrary poorly defined rule. Thor's Hammer may have stopped working because he wasn't worthy, but they do a bad job of explaining it and an even worse job of why he instantly became worthy again with no real redemption for having been unworthy. Hulk learning to control his powers between movies doesn't help him learn to control his power mid movie when he previously showed no ability to do so at any point prior. He still also stole a motorcycle. And I'm not so sure about that with Saw. I could understand it for the guy who didn't saw his leg off, but the other guy was a doctor, handling stress is what he does for a living. There are plenty of times when they could have noticed the guy breathing or in general not being dead

I think far too often people forget that they're writing and playing with other people, and instead are trying to write at them. When you realize that it's meant to be a collaboration and no one is really meant to have the spotlight, I think it becomes a lot easier to simmer your character down and just have fun with it rather than being mad about getting beaten in a story and so on and so forth. In some people's defense its hard too though. For instance in an RP I've often become the center of attention not because I was doing anything particularly spectacular or anything, but because usually two of the key characters way of interracting with mine promoted him to the spot light. For instance if some guy was creeping on a girl my character would have no problem putting a blade to his neck and telling him if he ever saw him around the girl again, no one would ever be seeing him again. One of my two characters would recognize this as my character being extreme and dangerous and needing to calm down before he hurt someone. The other wouldn't get involved, he would note his disagreed with the harshness, but as a general rule the guy was a problem who needed to be dealt with. So we end up with, this other victim guy, my character, a guy who staunchly believes what my character is doing is wrong, thus causing a scene giving my character a spot light, but because of their friendship not immediately being willing to fight him, and yet another character who while he disagrees with the action thinks there should be SOME action, but is unwilling to get his own hands dirty to do so, so instead he'd just let his friend do the morally wrong thing, but effective thing. In that regard I can become a "main character" very, very easily because of the types of relationships my character has, its easy for him to become the center of attention. That doesn't mean he necessarily hindering anyone else's RP. I do think however, that there are people (there's an entire FC of these people but I wont name names, PM me if you want to know though I'd love nothing more than to continue my Crucification of them as this shit mixed with metagaming, godmodding and their shit has now driven several friends from RPing entirely on FFXIV) that RP with people who think their characters are Gods, then also make themselves gods to compete and don't realize why this is a problem. Hell Godly characters persay aren't even an issue, they're annoying and not very fun to play with, but a super strong, terrifying character who's RP'd by someone who's considerate of others isn't necessarily someone who's so skilled they have to be avoided. Its the RPer who has all that "power" and just wants to feel mighty.

I sincerely hope I contributed to that ^.^, I also didn't read literally any posts above mine, I read the topic and gave my opinion

This sounds terrible and its a huge generalization so I'm 100% sure its untrue of everyone, so take this with a grain of salt. I have not yet found an Au Ra I was overly impressed with or even excited to RP with. I found the race underwhelming when they were announced and while they have two clans or whatever, their history is pretty generic and bland. They feel like hyper sexualized Qunari, and the Qunari had Ironbull, they didn't need to be any more sexy. I've tried, we have a guy in our FC who is a great RPer, but his Au Ra is also a Ninja so its actually painful to RP with him sometimes because he's already in his own head most of the time and when he's not he's talking about boring Au Ra clan shit. I think the problem with bringing Au Ra into the fold the way they did is they just kind of appeared after years of not being there. I mean the Greatswords and Dark Knights are a little weird that they're just now showing up but there's a lore reason for that. Mechanists might be new but there was a precedent for guns already, same with Astrologians. The sudden influx of Au Ra coming from their respective clans however was a little unprecidented. It would be like if you woke up tomorrow and a third of your town was now immigrants who'd immigrated over night and they all came from like 2 families. Its a little strange on how to take that, and I'm sure its hard for some Au Ra RPers to justify why exactly they and every other member of their people decided for the first time ever, "You know I hear its nice in the South, maybe we should migrate." I would say Winter is Coming is an excuse but its been there for awhile, realistically it doesn't make much sense.

When you use your character to completely one up the other player. Strange example incoming: I was ERPing this one time with this girl I'd met and a Futa, and no matter what I posted the Futa would just do shit in more extreme detail with demensions that didn't make sense/weren't possible, and did so in such away that I basically got blocked out of an RP I'd set up. There's a difference between say my character who's a trained Dark Knight and assumed to be quiet dangerous because he does have some violent tendencies and is a firm believer in absolute Justice/ensuring "evil" is dealt with, so when this skilled warrior walks up to a Merchant who's being a twat and when the Merchant gives him an attitude or pulls a knife, and my character ends up breaking his arm or something or running him out in someway, its not always cool to do to someone (because it ends someone's RP perhaps prematurely), it makes sense. Where as when someone's just soooooo amazing in the time it took my character to shatter someone's femur, they summoned turned invisible then with ninja abilities showed up and had a knife at my neck whilst also evading the two other people who were there making sure I didn't push too hard and kill the poor sod with the shattered femur, that gets a little silly. You assumed my character wouldn't notice a ninja, which he may not have, but not only did he not notice you trying to sneak up often in broad day light because the skill says you were "hidden" you then drew blades and put me on the defensive without even assuming I had help who might be well versed in killing Ninja.

Probably necroing this but sorry, been a crazy few weeks . As for the comment on Tony Starks Deus Ex Machina and the sceptor. You don't get to change the rules midway through the game, granted the powers involved were so strong a bump on the head cured Not-Green-Arrow of his ailments but still. During my prolonged absence I got some time to review another season of Dexter, and in this season they're dealing with the Doom's Day Killer. There's at one point a scene where Dexter walks into the church looking to kill Gailer who he assumes is the mastermind. During this scene Travis is either unconscious or tied up or something vaguely contrived and Dexter hears some shuffling on the floor above him. He looks up, see's Gailer see him, goes "He saw me." Then makes a mental note about how stalking him will be harder. Like two episodes later its revealed that Gailer is dead, and has been dead for two years prior which means, that entire scene from that episode 2 episodes prior was total bullshit and upon some investigation Dexter could have learned quiet easily that Travis was the killer the entire time and ended the season. Also since we're talking about story inconsistancies, the amount of times in the MSQ you win because someone knows some never before mentioned character, or they happen to know some spell or whatever deus ex machina happens drives me insane. The most comparable thing I can think to compare it to is like Naurto or Bleach where in both these super long series the main characters never feel in danger. There's always some other new jutsu or upgraded sword thing that they can unlock that has just enough power to win. It feels incredibly cheap to watch something like that happen, its like when a story introduces resurrection and you're like "Well there goes all the stakes." I think of a show like say Full Metal Alchemist which had a few simple rules for how Alchemy worked and then a few forbidden things and then you find out why some things are forbidden and the rest of the world for the most part follows those rules. I think its the same reason why Game of Thrones can be terrifying because when you see someone get stabbed, that's probably it for them. They don't usually survive and because there's no reason to think "oh well maybe they came back!" you have this constant feeling of tension. I feel like the opposite is true with the MSQ, in the times when I'm not the chosen one (which I also hate), someone always know something, or some contrived reason exists that will always bail us out of every solution, and making up Lore based around your contrived solution isn't a good answer. I remember right after HW lost I got in an argument with some dude in /shout in Coerthas Western because I made the comment "Hey this zone has the Northern Lights like every other frozen landscape in every other game." and they were like "Actually its Aether that's been twisted from the Calamity I just ran into an NPC who told me that." And its like, no what happened is they put the Northern Lights into a place that isn't super far North, realized it didn't make any sense because Coerthas used to be lush, then wrote some lore to justify that design choice. I think as a general nitpicking though, drama/tension/romance in general has gotten to a point where when I'm reading it, it feels like the only reason problems arise is because no one behaves like a normal person. I'll use the movie Hitch as an example, at the end Will Smith walks in on whoever the lead actress was (I know who she is I'm just too lazy to type her name out), and finds a guy sleeping over at her house and assumes she's sleeping with someone else. Prior to their break up like 2 days before, considering everything was all good, I think its reasonable to expect the person you're in a relationship with might have mentioned they were having family over for a wedding sometime soon and this huge sad leaving scene gets totally negated. Another example would be the entire conflict in Man of Steel. Zod shows up demanding Superman and planning on Teraforming the Earth. One, he could just go to fucking Mars and accomplish the same shit without risking conflict with Superman and thus saving the Kryptonian Race. Two the problem with growing up on Earth was the Sun's Radiation. Just because you change the Atmosphere doesn't mean you change the Sun's Radiation. Our atmosphere does not determine the Sun's Radiation. Secondly instead of threatening people if the Kryptonians had just been like "Hey, UN, we need a new place to set up and rebuild our people." They would have probably responded "Well, you don't need oil, so if you'll let us have all the oil in the Middle East, we haven't been able to control that shit in ever, so uh have a ball. Mind sharing some of that space flight stuff? Maybe tell us where we can get your first officer because Damn she's fine." But instead they show up and insist on killing everyone and destroying everything and any intelligent, strategic mind could have handled that better. And finally, Saw One, how the fuck does a dude lie on the floor pretended to be dead for hours and the fucking Doctor in the Room doesn't notice is breathing? This old fucker had cancer, he wasn't exactly fit enough to hold his breath for hours. Hollywood, Writers, get your shit together, come on!

Been struggling with this a lot lately and I don't think its that I got tired of my character so much as, there is a group of people who OOCly go out of their way to cause problems with people. I'm not sure if this is by design or if they're just bad at RP and can't tell the difference between IC or OOC or if they just choose to ignore it. Anyway these people have effectively ruined 3 HUGE and super significant plots involving my character, the first two they did on the same day and I figured, fuck it I'll Blacklist them all, burn the bridges and move on. Turns out that's hard because the time you invested is a lot and when you have to explain to your partners what happened it takes the steam out in a big kinda way. So I'm finally starting to get back into things and then recently this same set of people shows up and OOCly crashes another RP thing. To make matters worse I'd been lied to about the pretense of the situation OOCly before arriving so it causes this big scene in Ul'Dah. A good portion of the people who found the RP joined in only to see nothing happen and me storm off, I got blamed for the entire situation even though I'd been lied to about what was going to happen (if they'd said Hey so my plan is to not do this thing, then call in some help, this is who I want to call, I could have explained why that shouldn't happen because of those issues, but this person decided to ignore those issues and not say anything OOCly and give me a completely different plan to go with), then flamed and humiliated in front of people I either didn't know already or had just met. So the result is after months of working hard on my character, I got my reputation dragged through the mud by these two FC's and this other person. Its humiliating, its frustrating and it makes you want to not log in or change characters, but after so much work you don't want to just walk away either. The shitty part though is you can't really talk about what happened because when you get ganged up on OOCly its your word vs theirs, and sometimes you don't know someone till you've RP'd with them for a month almost exclusively to see the shit they do. My FC Told me later they had some members in previous months have the same thing happen with the same group of people, but again if you can't talk to anyone about it or feel like you can't, you don't. That said it does make you want to stop playing. EDIT: To the guy above me, sometimes its hard to not RP even if you don't want to, because if I'm dating a character or something if I take a week or two off, relationship can change over night. You start to feel pinned into it. I'm not saying you are and the right people won't understand, but I know that anxiety well.

Lotta people who don't know that. Not that that disproves your point, but some don't.

Well then you just have to be the mongols. Meh gotta let them do something to feel important

That works sometimes but then there are occassionally people like my friends who are basically the great wall of china only assembled around my character's cock. They live for the blockage. Some people will make it their agenda to mess you up then point out your slip ups as much as possible.

That's how I felt when I read Death Note. Just cause you're really smart doesn't mean you can figure everything out without sneezing. Out of curiosity, did he paraphrase like that (i.e. emoting that he's delivering a long-winded explanation) or did he also write out the explanation itself? I've seen people type out something like those before. /em explains how ____ works in regards to ____ It's my preferred way of dealing with this, too. You can embellish the sentence and such as you choose, but it means you get to move forward with the RP without trying to explain things you don't know about! The good thing about Deathnote and most people who RP geniuses is that Light, like most Genius RPers was fooled by a simple bait and switch. Its not hard to beat people who try too hard.

I have a problem with "genius" characters played by the intelligent. There's too many ways to mess up. Its like there's a huge group of people who RP "spy" characters and half the time we've caught these people metagaming hard. It got so bad eventaully myself and my friends just cut all ties with them because they would metagame to get info to start this huge fight, then start this fight and the otherside would figure out they were being metagamed, a shit storm would happen, and everyone would end up bitter and angry. It sounds isolated but its happened at least 4 times in the last three months with those people. I think the problem with Genius characters is its too easy to stop being a character trait and start being a crutch. Its why I'll argue to the death that Man of Steel was a good Superman movie because while it had a dark ending people didn't necessarily like, it didn't lean on the "Oh Kryptonite!" Crutch that tends to be the end all be all for every other super man story ever. I think the same criticism could probably be leveled at a good portion of Dark Knight Roleplayers. The "Darkness" can be a very compelling element when used correctly, but if you're just going around super angsty an angry all the time it stops becoming a part of what makes your character who they are and just becomes your character. One trait shouldn't define your character, it should definitely help with that, it can even play a major role, but it really does need to be kept in check regardless of intelligence.

Inspired by Cinemasins Do you guys just have stuff in stories, games, movies, or books that just drive you up a wall? Like in Castaway when Tom hanks is looking at the Island from the top of the mountain and all the waves are crashing into the island from all sides? Or plot devices that don't make sense, like In Dexter what if they hadn't tripped on the trip wire that killed the angel chick during the doomsday killings? What then? Is the plan just over? Or how about in that same scene when they let the locusts out of the closet? Don't they know locusts are Cannibals? Or how about in the Avengers when Tony Stark breaks into SHIELD's mainframe and steals all their dirty little secrets, then neglects to tell Captain America that Hydra had infiltrated SHIELD? Or how Hulk learned to control his powers because...reasons? Or how Thor's hammer stops working for some reason that never gets hinted at or explained? Or how Loki's staff turned that one dude who's name I didn't even bother remembering into a servant but that staff on Tony Stark didn't turn him into one? What are some of the most annoying little nit picky things you've found in stuff? I think the one that bothers me the most right now is that in Breaking Bad the only two Black characters sell friend chicken and meth.

I think you can pretty objectively say Ul'Dah is the least interesting. Thanalan not as much, but as far as actual different RP you can do Ul'Dah it doesn't offer a lot, and that's having been there for like 6 months. Gridania is up there as far as having nothing really to do but at least what they do have lore wise you can actually access. You literally can't even get to Ul'Dah's biggest attractions, they're literally walled off. They don't even give you the courtesy of like NPC's fighting below on some predetermined loop. Its just empty and walled off with some people standing above it scoffing at poor people.

So I'm trying to open up RP to Limsa Lominsa and La Nosca in general. My reason being is because despite being the "center" of RP, Ul'Dah is easily the least interesting city state as far as cool places to faciliate RP goes. I think for the sake of RP Ul'Dah is actually easily the least interesting city so just for a quick side by side comparison because these arguments always come up, here's why I think Ul'Dah sucks and what I'd actually like done about it. Ul'Dah's biggest selling points are the idea that its so diverse. In one city you have Merchant Princes, those loyal to the Sultana, The Monetarists, and previous dealings with the Scions of the Seventh Dawn. They're also home to the Gladiator Arena, and have some of the poorest areas in the game with places like Pearl Lane existing. Problems with this though, you have almost no access to Monetarist areas outside of Cutscenes. You can get to "richer" parts of town, but they're not really accessible. Likewise you can't get to the Sultana, its actually blocked off by a cutscene wall. Scions play virtually no role ICly and they're actually located outside of Ul'Dah. You also can't access the Arena, you can stand above it, but people who RP gladiators can't actually use the arena even if they're in the guild. You do have access to pearl lane. Outside of the Quicksands there's not a whole lot Ul'Dah has going for it other than the Grindstone happens there and a lot of political intrigue tends to happen there. However there's no reason that most of the stuff that happens in Ul'Dah couldn't just as easily happen in cities like Limsa, or Gridania. Likewise the docks in Limsa, the Amplitheater in Gridania are both fully usable and accessible. The shroud does lack character in that it just kind of feels like a generic forest, but you can at least access most of the things it has going for it in the lore. You have full access to the Conjurer's guild aside from one little area, same with the Archers and Lancers. They have their own adventurer's guild and some pretty expansive nice areas for RP. Limsa's the same, the docks including at least one Galleon are completely open an realized for explore and RP. Other ships are located on Costa Del Sol, likewise if you're not feeling piratey the upper districts of Limsa offer places like The Bismarck which can offer "fine" dining and a more professional setting than The Wench. You also have a fully realized Grand Company hall for the Malestrom. La Nosca also has more unique/interesting RP structures from Hermits Hovel in the Outer Areas to The Blood Shore, to Camp Bronze Lake. So I'm trying to get more people to RP outside of Ul'Dah because really, Ul'Dah's not that impressive or even got that much going for it. I'm not just gonna say that either and not put my gil where my mouth is. I've relocated there for what its worth and a few very serious very involved RPers have also moved out. This along with CLAWs and several other FC's taking up residence in Coerthas is making it look like a good time to spread out and actually populate our world. So anyone else, any other trading companies or pirate/criminal theme'd RP FC's willing to also move location if they thought they thought there was actually serious RP going on out in other city states?

The first week I came back I had to try logging in at weird times every day for about a week before I finally got in. Took my best friend about as long a few weeks later.

Getting rid of reputation also means people can't easily tell who its easier to ignore or taunt if they disagree. As someone who vehemently despises reddit, removal of up/down voting people is only good.

Sometimes people are just twats. I mean if we're talking aggression be it on here or in game, just last night we were RPing in the Quick Sands as one often does. A player whom I'd never met, whom I'd never RP'd with, whom I had no idea who she was felt the need to try and throw my character across the room after losing a /random. Now among my friends this was controversial and apparently it was also controversial on their side as well, but the way it broke down was I thought that was a bit extreme, I refused to believe that a blind monk of equal or lesser size to myself lifted my character in full armor and threw him across the room because of a /random. I got knocked back and knocked off balance, but refused to be thrown. If this was a problem to the other RPer this person could have Pm'd me and talked about it like a normal human. However instead of explaining who she was and what her character was like she assumed I knew who she was and that this was possible (though I still vehemently disagree that it is), and could have worked on a compromise. Instead she exited the RP OOCly a few minutes later after rather than fighting my character refused to defend himself (we were all technically on the same side and fighting allies seemed...dumb?) then quit the RP and left. She was mad we were "Ignoring" her posts and the "Strength" of her character. However the divisive bit is that myself and one of my partners thought what she was doing was so extreme that I was within my rights to refuse to be hurled across the room like a plate or something. Our other partner said that by refusing I undermined her character, and that's where the bottle neck occurred because I don't give a damn how strong you think you are, I hold people who RP against me to some level of common sense when you deal with me, and she clearly didn't. However a simple PM explaining who she was could have resolved that, instead she chose to be an aggressive twat about it and storm out which then caused several hours of heated debate among friends because while everyone agreed making snide, snarky, bitchy, and uncalled for remarks OOC wasn't the right thing to do, was how I handled myself the right thing to do? And the answer is its debatable. And that in lies the problem with RPers on forums and why communication is the most important thing. I've been browsing this thread here and there all day and it seems a central theme is that sometimes people disagree, and I'm sure this person is normally quiet reasonable. However if you don't explain what or why you will or wont do something you can't expect other people to understand you. Likewise if you're not willing to talk and understand and expect people to rise to your level or whatever you're just going to create disconnects. I've been lucky in that with the RPers I've found in game we're pretty open and we get along with most other players (this has actually been the only incident) that most people tend to fall in line relatively well. However if you think there's a misunderstanding and you answer with hostility as this player did, all you do is make someone else hostile and bitter and that's the death of communication and establishes the idea of cliques. The result of this player being a twat OOCly last night? Blacklisted. Or if I have to unblacklist this person, out of spite I'm either going to ignore their existence entirely or if we do end up RPing again, be understood we're playing by my rules which adhere to realism rather than jumping 30 feet in the air and tossing people across the room like they're weightless. Its not perfect, but if you refuse to communicate then purposely spite someone on your way out, that's the treatment you can expect. And just like that hostility/aggression is bred.

I want to play again, but I lost my job and can't afford a monthly sub. So I guess I'll see everyone when I see everyone T.T

Sweet I'll be IC as much as possible, so if you see me feel free to initiate random RP, I love it.

Definitely got a character made today. Raeaon Norellia, I'll hopefully see you all in game.

I've tried to medium it out a bit. I try when I get home from Work at 1:30 PST, then again at 9:00 PST before I go to bed. I set an alarm for like 2:00am PST and then I try when I get up for work at 4:20am PST and so far I've had zero luck. T.T and if Friday comes I might pay for a transfer in, but if I can't even log in after what's the point