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Well, aren't Elezen just taller, lankier, funny-eared Hyur with tiny heads? Yes, and Lalafell are tiny pudgy Hyur with pointy heads, Roegadyn are larger bulkier Hyur with broad heads, and Miqo'te are shorter, stockier Hyur with cat heads. Very BROAD generalizations aside, I was comparing more than just their looks, I was also comparing to most likely scenario for their lore as well. Each race has very distinct lore that separates them by more than just their differing appearances. If we assume the Viera-like race would also be a nature loving tribal race with strong ties to hunting and magic (I only say magic because almost all the pictures I've found from FF Tactics were either mages or archers with one duelist and one thief) then they are basically identical to the Miqo'te lore. They'd even problem get categories the same exact way with one clan having darker skin tones and hair color and the other having pale skin and light hair which would make them seem even more identical to the Miqo'te.

So then they're just taller, lankier tailless Miqo'te with bunny ears. Basically an Elezen Miqo'te Hybrid. Still too much like a race that's already playable for me to see them being a viable race when you consider all the other options. Both are tribal, linked to nature, psuedo anthromorphic, strong cultural ties, most likely to be associated strongly with Archer and Magic. They are almost exactly the same race. Also their clawed feet and hands would go entirely unnoticed unless you never wore gloves or boots, and I can't even imagine how they would handle their ears on helmets. Cut out holes in every helm so their ears actually stick out instead of just have little ear lumps like the Miqo'te?

He still just looks like a Miqo'te with longer ears and no tail to me.

Isn't that Miyamoto Usagi? I remember his comic and cross-overs with TMNT. xDD It sure is! I just thought it was funny

I found some concept art where they actually showed what they envisioned both a Samurai AF and Male Viera would look like, it's pretty cool actually.

I don't want to feel like a "princess". ;; Blargh, I say. Don't use the Unicorn mount then

True indeed. Personally I'd love to see a new race of beastmen pushed from the Garlemald? area that teams up with the native Eorzeans. The Garlean Empire seems like they would have been pretty effective at wiping out or enslaving any Beastmen populations in Garlemald, and if any fleeing Beastmen had escaped they probably would have done so during the push into Ala Mhigo.

Are they still technically Beastmen if they are playable? Once they become playable one would assume you're free to join any of the available City-States, and Grand Companies, which would no longer qualify them as being Beastmen based on the criteria that Beastmen live and operate outside of the influence of the City-States. If they came from the same place as the Miqo'te originally did, I think it's more likely that SE would go with the cliche of them being age old enemies (Cat vs. Dog) than saying they were ancestral allies or some such. Still there's a LOT of places in Eorzea that's untouched by the game so far, plenty of room for some isolated race to exist, so who knows what we'll see.

I was more referring to the Mamool Ja being a new entity added into the mix since the Calamity. We don't really know much about them, other than that they came across the seas and are apparently known for their work as mercenaries. We've only seen a few that are presumably friendly, of course. Lore-wise, Qiqirin and Goblins have long since been integrated into Eorzean society. More-so in Limsa Lominsa and Gridania than Ul'dah, however, as the sultanate has a beef with beastmen. Both Qiqirin and Goblins are fairly common-place in the city-states, though. You'll see them peddling their wares in the markets. Mamool Ja, on the other hand, are this completely new race that seem to be fairly aggressive, so it's interesting to see them mingling with Eorzean society. Are they actually from across the sea? The only Lore not related to FFXI I could find about them implied they were implied to have come directly from Vana'diel, though I never encountered any besides the one in the Arcanist Guild in Limsa Lominsa, and never saw any hostile ones to see if there was any indication of whether that was true or not. To Rock, I as a major fan of Werewolves in general, I would love a Wolf type race to be added to the game, even if it wasn't anything related to Lycanthropy. Sadly I could see it being more likely as a new Beastmen Race than a new player race.

I have to wonder if the Unicorn mount isn't an incentive to try and get more people to play Healers. It would make sense really, though I hope they don't leave the other Jobs feeling kind of shafted in the process. It will end up creating the same kind of bitterness that people felt about the Warlock and Paladin mounts in WoW, even though in this case the mount isn't exclusive.

We also see Qiqirn and Goblins in Limsa Lominsa so I'm not sure that makes them very unique in regards to beastmen living among the normal folks. Personally I always thought the Bangaa were a little weird looking, like scaly dogs more than actual lizardmen, and the Mamool Ja aren't much better. I'd rather see something more like the Amalj'aa, or to reference another game, the Aman from TERA. Since they said Dragonkin specifically instead of Lizardfolk, the appearance of those two seem more in line with "Dragons" than the Bangaa or Mamool Ja. Actually I take back what I said about the Aman, too much like the Roegadyn so it would be kind of pointless. Still, a race similar to the Amalj'aa seems like it would be preferable for a reptile type race in my opinion. Something big, fierce, and with features more monstrous or animalistic than humanoid.

I remember him actually saying something about that (the not liking the idea of Male Viera) but I also remember in that same interview he mentioned that they might use both race ideas (Viera and Dragonkin) as a singular race with the males being the Dragons and the females being Bunnies. I don't necessarily agree with this however because I feel like it's just making a hodge podge race just to appease people. Personally, since I haven't said it yet, my vote is for the Miqo'te only because I think at this junction Viera would be a bad idea and there are plenty of other unique type races they could add without another furry race. Maybe sometime down the road, the second or third expansion, it would be cool to add the Viera, but personally I'd rather see more classes than a new race, and if it were a new race I'd rather see a reptilian one since it's primarily the only thing we have missing from the typical fantasy setup: Human (Hyur), Orc/Half Orc (Roegardyn), Gnome/Halfling (Lalafell), Elf (Elezen), Furry (Miqo'te), Half Dragon (New Race). It would effectively ensure that all grounds are covered for people who love different things about fantasy, though ultimately it all boils down to aesthetics since races in FFXIV don't offer any benefits beyond an almost non-existent stat boost.

It's not actually a class mount, it's just only obtainable by a specific class. Once you have it, it works like any other mount in the game.

I'm kind of curious if they'll give something cool to the other classes as well, either a mount or something else that would be equally cool to show off. It'd be kind of cool if the Thaumaturge got a Nightmare or a skeletal horse. Dragoon could get a Wyvern Minion. Supposedly it's a reward from the White Mage questline. That's information that is going around on Reddit and the Beta Forums anyways.

Note the date that dev blog was posted. Note that the dev blog was a joke. That was kind of the point I was making by pointing out the date it was posted.

Note the date that dev blog was posted. Also two things in response to Bea. The Miqo'te in lore are a race of deadly predators, but seldom do emotes and lore ever match up. Even though the lore suggests they'd be mean and nasty or whatever, they still look like nekos so the animation team went with that the give them more appeal to a wider audience. Japanese culture is far more likely to jump on the adorable neko bandwagon than the ferocious hunter bandwagon. In regards to the Viera, technically if you removed their ears and tail they're just Elezen that don't trim their toe nails. It should also be remembered even if they did add them as a new race, they would be Viera-like, not actually Viera (unless they just ripped them right out of Ivalice and said they got here through some space time vortex thing like Lightning). That being said, the Viera in FFXIV could be completely unlike the ones from FFXII except for appearance, just like none of the Races in FFXIV have any real commonalities beyond superficial ones with the races from FFXI. The Eorzean Viera could end up just being some long isolated race of tribal bunny people that are discovered living somewhere and then end up just being another race option with some lore details and nothing more like every other race.

Not until the 20th.

They took a poll a long time ago trying to figure out what race the players would most like to see if they added a new race in an expansion. Viera and a Dragon race were the top two voted ideas (I think they were tied, or pretty close) but nothing has been set in stone whether or not this is what will happen. While I thought the Viera were pretty cool, I personally think they have too much in common with the Miqo'te to make them an acceptable new race, it would just be like playing a taller Miqo'te with longer ears.

I preordered my copy the day it said they had them in stock were taking preorders and got a code on my receipt for early access and what not. I was just sure to bring it up while I was paying for it rather than assume that they would give it to me willingly.

Finally decided to do one of these for Ashren, was actually more fun than I thought it would be.

It doesn't matter. Its intent was to cause other people to react, and they did. I stand by my decision to delete your post. No problem, that was in response to.. one of the other posts that got deleted, not to the post itself being deleted.

It was a joke, I told him I was going to respond with that pic last night.

This is fabulous.

Keep in mind that just because 70% of a demographic supports something, and 64% of something else is made up of that demographic, it does not mean that 70% of that 64% supports it. For all you know, 90% of the 64% demographic are made up of the 30% that DON'T support same sex marriage.

Thinking about it a bit more, I kind of see it like when you have a birthday, or even when the year changes. After you've been saying it's 2013 for a year, it takes a little time getting used to writing 2014 anything you need to date something, or it takes a bit of time to get used to being a year older when you've been used to being whatever age you are for a whole year. Despite all that, eventually you do get used to it, and so I figure for a while the Warriors of Light will have a hard time grasping the concept they've been gone for five years, but once that realization sinks in it won't be that long I don't think before a person comes to term with their "actual" age. I think it would be weird if three years from now you're still saying "technically I'm # but I'm actually #"