Erik Mynhier Posted April 3, 2015 Share #1 Posted April 3, 2015 We all remember watching the sneak peak of Thief and Ninja skills in the cutscenes leading up to Leviathan. I think we may have been privy to such new skills again in the final cut scenes of 2.55. Now I am going to post a vid and talk very openly. If you still haven't seen this..... hurry up its a blast, And also hit the back button now. Ok, here is a vid with the relevant stuff. [video=youtube] Ok at about a minute and twenty in we see the Masterrace battle. Big R swings in at 1:25, hitting the ground as Ilbert jumps back. Notice the floor crack and rocks pop up? Isn't that Circle Blade from FFXI? At 1:41 we see Ilbert run his fingers along the blade, charging it with red aether for the big knockback wave. Also of note for this video is the aura that keeps overtaking Raubahn, and the jumping strike Ilbert does twice. I also note both are using one-handed swords, new GLD/PLD skills? Now the next vid. [video=youtube] Ok, at 0:25 we see the Lala hold his staff high in the "my team mate is about to LB" pose and Yda preforms what looks like a really pretty version of Final Heaven from FFVII. The new Monk LB maybe? [align=center][/align] So there was other stuff that caught my eye here and there but those I listed stood out. So add to, discuss, so on. Link to comment
mongi291 Posted April 3, 2015 Share #2 Posted April 3, 2015 We all remember watching the sneak peak of Thief and Ninja skills in the cutscenes leading up to Leviathan. I think we may have been privy to such new skills again in the final cut scenes of 2.55. Now I am going to post a vid and talk very openly. If you still haven't seen this..... hurry up its a blast, And also hit the back button now. Ok, here is a vid with the relevant stuff. [video=youtube] Ok at about a minute and twenty in we see the Masterrace battle. Big R swings in at 1:25, hitting the ground as Ilbert jumps back. Notice the floor crack and rocks pop up? Isn't that Circle Blade from FFXI? At 1:41 we see Ilbert run his fingers along the blade, charging it with red aether for the big knockback wave. Also of note for this video is the aura that keeps overtaking Raubahn, and the jumping strike Ilbert does twice. I also note both are using one-handed swords, new GLD/PLD skills? Now the next vid. [video=youtube] Ok, at 0:25 we see the Lala hold his staff high in the "my team mate is about to LB" pose and Yda preforms what looks like a really pretty version of Final Heaven from FFVII. The new Monk LB maybe? [align=center][/align] So there was other stuff that caught my eye here and there but those I listed stood out. So add to, discuss, so on. More offensive skills for GLA/PLD are always welcome. Maybe people will realize that our DPS can contribute to the fight (got scolded for switching to Sword Oath while bosses can't hurt me because of mechanics). As for Final Heaven... Isn't that already a LB? Link to comment
Erik Mynhier Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted April 3, 2015 As for Final Heaven... Isn't that already a LB? Yes, but I'm referring to the look. We were told that the 3rd Lv LBs will be getting an overhaul, giving each class its own look/effect. I'm putting money on that being the one for the Monk. Also if they become unique, maybe Monk will keep the name and everyone else will change. Just spit-balling really. Link to comment
mongi291 Posted April 3, 2015 Share #4 Posted April 3, 2015 As for Final Heaven... Isn't that already a LB? Yes, but I'm referring to the look. We were told that the 3rd Lv LBs will be getting an overhaul, giving each class its own look/effect. I'm putting money on that being the one for the Monk. Also if they become unique, maybe Monk will keep the name and everyone else will change. Just spit-balling really. They'll only change the look, probably. Except for BRD, it's probably getting some kind of overpowered AoE that works like Caster LB. Link to comment
Sounsyy Posted April 3, 2015 Share #5 Posted April 3, 2015 Ok, here is a vid with the relevant stuff. [video=youtube] wait... UGH I've seen that animation Ilberd uses somewhere before. Where have I seen it... Link to comment
Erik Mynhier Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted April 3, 2015 Ok, here is a vid with the relevant stuff. [video=youtube] wait... UGH I've seen that animation Ilberd uses somewhere before. Where have I seen it... The finger on blade or the jump? The jump looks a bit like the Savage Blade from FFXI, but we already have that skill. The finger on blade sort of reminds me of the Rune Fencer as well as a bit of Sepheroth. Link to comment
Sounsyy Posted April 3, 2015 Share #7 Posted April 3, 2015 Ok, here is a vid with the relevant stuff. [video=youtube] wait... UGH I've seen that animation Ilberd uses somewhere before. Where have I seen it... The finger on blade or the jump? The jump looks a bit like the Savage Blade from FFXI, but we already have that skill. The finger on blade sort of reminds me of the Rune Fencer as well as a bit of Sepheroth. I thought there was a 1.0 NPC that does it, but I can't remember who. I thought it might have been Greinfarr using 1.0's version of Rage of Halone, but I just checked the video and it wasn't it. Will keep looking, but you could be on to something. Though at the same time... it could just be SE getting our hopes up like Y'shtola with the shield bubble from 1.0's Limsa opener that we never got. =/ Link to comment
Erik Mynhier Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted April 3, 2015 Ok, here is a vid with the relevant stuff. [video=youtube] wait... UGH I've seen that animation Ilberd uses somewhere before. Where have I seen it... The finger on blade or the jump? The jump looks a bit like the Savage Blade from FFXI, but we already have that skill. The finger on blade sort of reminds me of the Rune Fencer as well as a bit of Sepheroth. I thought there was a 1.0 NPC that does it, but I can't remember who. I thought it might have been Greinfarr using 1.0's version of Rage of Halone, but I just checked the video and it wasn't it. Will keep looking, but you could be on to something. Though at the same time... it could just be SE getting our hopes up like Y'shtola with the shield bubble from 1.0's Limsa opener that we never got. =/ I feed on Hope and Dreams, and quince my thirst with the tears of my enemies. :evil: Link to comment
Steel Wolf Posted April 3, 2015 Share #9 Posted April 3, 2015 Huh...I never did take into account that perhaps these were demonstrating skills we'll see later in life. I bet a fair few GLD/PLDs would love some more offensive skills. Particularly ones that look badass. Yda's Final Heaven and Y'shtola's Super Holy definitely struck me as examples of what we'll be getting come LB3 revamp. Makes me wonder what everyone else will be seeing... :3 Link to comment
Dravus Posted April 3, 2015 Share #10 Posted April 3, 2015 I suspect that the bulk of new skills will mostly be about utility though I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some more offensive skills with impressive visuals but a lengthy cooldown. Link to comment
ChewableMorphine Posted April 3, 2015 Share #11 Posted April 3, 2015 I take it none of you play NIN here, because Final Heaven is the Level 3 NIN Limit Break. Hopefully that cleared up a bit of misconceptions. Link to comment
mongi291 Posted April 3, 2015 Share #12 Posted April 3, 2015 I take it none of you play NIN here, because Final Heaven is the Level 3 NIN Limit Break. Hopefully that cleared up a bit of misconceptions. I used to play NIN (before giving up because of the queues) and I know it uses Final Heaven as LB3, but so do MNK and DRG. I don't see your point. Link to comment
Erik Mynhier Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted April 3, 2015 I take it none of you play NIN here, because Final Heaven is the Level 3 NIN Limit Break. Hopefully that cleared up a bit of misconceptions. Its the dps lb in general is it not? I am suggesting it will be changed as we saw Yda's imitation of Tifa's final lb in ffvii, also known as Final Heaven. Link to comment
V'aleera Posted April 3, 2015 Share #14 Posted April 3, 2015 Someone on the lore forum said they thought one of the attacks was the GLD Red Lotus Blade from 1.0. Link to comment
ChewableMorphine Posted April 3, 2015 Share #15 Posted April 3, 2015 I take it none of you play NIN here, because Final Heaven is the Level 3 NIN Limit Break. Hopefully that cleared up a bit of misconceptions. I used to play NIN (before giving up because of the queues) and I know it uses Final Heaven as LB3, but so do MNK and DRG. I don't see your point. I take it none of you play NIN here, because Final Heaven is the Level 3 NIN Limit Break. Hopefully that cleared up a bit of misconceptions. Its the dps lb in general is it not? I am suggesting it will be changed as we saw Yda's imitation of Tifa's final lb in ffvii, also known as Final Heaven. I'm saying why would Final Heaven be the the new LB3 when it already is the LB3. Link to comment
Erik Mynhier Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share #16 Posted April 3, 2015 I take it none of you play NIN here, because Final Heaven is the Level 3 NIN Limit Break. Hopefully that cleared up a bit of misconceptions. I used to play NIN (before giving up because of the queues) and I know it uses Final Heaven as LB3, but so do MNK and DRG. I don't see your point. I take it none of you play NIN here, because Final Heaven is the Level 3 NIN Limit Break. Hopefully that cleared up a bit of misconceptions. Its the dps lb in general is it not? I am suggesting it will be changed as we saw Yda's imitation of Tifa's final lb in ffvii, also known as Final Heaven. I'm saying why would Final Heaven be the the new LB3 when it already is the LB3. For the same reason that knives and daggers were removed from GLD/PLD when rogue was added. They have shown a willingness to change things when needed. They have stated that at the least the animations will change, and I assume (though I may be wrong) the names of the LB3. So with Yda using what looks like this: [align=center][/align] And that if the names all change, the only one to keep the Final Heaven name will be the Monk LB3, as that is the Final Fantasy tradition. Hence my logic. Link to comment
Jana Posted April 3, 2015 Share #17 Posted April 3, 2015 It was announced a while back that each job would be getting its own LB, so if MNK kept the current LB3 for melee DPS, DRG and NIN would be the ones getting new animations. Link to comment
Erik Mynhier Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share #18 Posted April 3, 2015 It was announced a while back that each job would be getting its own LB, so if MNK kept the current LB3 for melee DPS, DRG and NIN would be the ones getting new animations. I assume the animation for the current FH would change to Yda's new animation. Just as the daggers were changed to swords in the GLD item list. So anyone else notice anything? Link to comment
Kage Posted April 3, 2015 Share #19 Posted April 3, 2015 Most people on the forums believe that it's the Red Lotus Blade skill which explains why some see 1.0 in it. Honestly, if they changed Final Heaven to that, as melee I'd be pissed off. The cutscene essentially just adds some fist/arm movement to the usual Final Heaven LB, which honestly I see as just embellishment for the cutscene. LB3 is fucking long enough as is. It does not need to have that included. Link to comment
Melkire Posted April 3, 2015 Share #20 Posted April 3, 2015 On behalf of MNKs everywhere: we'd like to keep Final Heaven as our job-exclusive LB3, thank you very much and have a nice day. 1 Link to comment
Melodia Posted April 3, 2015 Share #21 Posted April 3, 2015 LB3 is fucking long enough as is. It does not need to have that included. LOL.....come on it could be fun, Kage! Titan Heart Phase: "LB damn it! DPS was too slow!" Monk: "On it!" .................45 seconds later, still mid-wind up...... Wipe. Link to comment
Kage Posted April 3, 2015 Share #22 Posted April 3, 2015 On behalf of MNKs everywhere: we'd like to keep Final Heaven as our job-exclusive LB3, thank you very much and have a nice day. I'm pretty sure it would be the case anyhow. It's sorta-iconic that way? Same how I think BLM will keep Meteor and SMN will get a different one. Not sure about the Tank LB however. I just think that it would be gameplay-wise IDIOTIC to make the Final Heaven animation even longer to include the fancy hand movement that I think is embellishment for the cutscenes/end of ARR. LB3 is way too fucking long already to add more. LB3 is fucking long enough as is. It does not need to have that included. LOL.....come on it could be fun, Kage! Titan Heart Phase: "LB damn it! DPS was too slow!" Monk: "On it!" .................45 seconds later, still mid-wind up...... Wipe. LOL seriously Or "animation locked now" WoD even. "well i can't cancel melee lb3... ; ;" Link to comment
Erik Mynhier Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share #23 Posted April 3, 2015 Most people on the forums believe that it's the Red Lotus Blade skill which explains why some see 1.0 in it. Honestly, if they changed Final Heaven to that, as melee I'd be pissed off. The cutscene essentially just adds some fist/arm movement to the usual Final Heaven LB, which honestly I see as just embellishment for the cutscene. LB3 is fucking long enough as is. It does not need to have that included. If my assumption is correct they will more then likely shrink it to fit combat Kage. I think it would be understood that the version Yda uses was extended for dramatic effect. The same happened with the mentioned previews we got of ROG/NIN. The skills were the same animation as the player versions, but extended for dramatic effect for the sake of the cutscene. Go back and watch the scene and compare it to the actual player skills, you will see what I mean. I am sure however Monks like Osric and all will be glad of anything other then the DRK sword they are forced to swing now on their Limit. Personally I would like a sort of damage all/low damage/super-high arggo generating Knight's of the Round. Would still never get to use it though lol. Link to comment
Kage Posted April 3, 2015 Share #24 Posted April 3, 2015 Honestly, if they changed Final Heaven to that, as melee I'd be pissed off. The cutscene essentially just adds some fist/arm movement to the usual Final Heaven LB, which honestly I see as just embellishment for the cutscene. LB3 is fucking long enough as is. It does not need to have that included. I just said the same exact thing, you even quoted me. Are you saying they will make LB1 and LB2 a version of Final Heaven? The blade swing is only for the first two melee limit breaks. Link to comment
mongi291 Posted April 3, 2015 Share #25 Posted April 3, 2015 I heard SMNs would like to have their Egi transform into a normal Primal, so I've got this idea 1) Summon Titan-Egi. 2) Charge and use LB3. 3) Titan-Egi becomes Titan EX. 4) /sit and look at the boss while it gets owned by Titan EX. 5) [insert boss' name here]: WTF lag Link to comment
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