SPOILERS - Will the 2.0 finale become the RP "present time"?

[LiadansWhisper]

The story continued in Coil, which Alisaie recruited you to investigate after Operation Archon. She specifically mentions it during the cutscene where she asks for your help.

 

And even before that, the Scion dialogue during the primal hardmode quests' cutscenes also indicate that the HM battles take place after the fall of the Praetorium. So it's always been post-Operation Archon.

 

I think people are saying they're ignoring those fights and saying they have not happened yet.  Essentially, either the story didn't happen yet at all, or some people are stopping at CM and not going further.

[Jana]

I personally prefer to "follow the endgame." The Praetorium is the end of the "main" story quests in ARR, but all of the endgame grinding is being done on battle that have been stated to take place after it. In TERA, which was brought up earlier, the endgame dungeon to grind was the same as the main story's end during the Argon War patch, so I played there very differently. That really isn't the case here, though!

 

While I'm sure there are some ARR roleplayers who haven't reached 50 for one reason or another, I think most of them will have already cleared those story scenarios as well.

[Naunet]

As someone whose RP is very closely tied to the Empire's machinations, it takes a lot of RP opportunity away from me to just RP as though the whole thing has already occurred. That, and the explanations I've given earlier in this thread, are the biggies as to why I don't consider anything Ultima weapon and beyond to have actually resolved yet. Why wouldn't we want a chance to RP the Garlean Empire as a clear and present, near-overwhelming danger? That's a huge plot arc that, if we only start RP post-Archon, gets completely overlooked.

[LiadansWhisper]

As someone whose RP is very closely tied to the Empire's machinations, it takes a lot of RP opportunity away from me to just RP as though the whole thing has already occurred. That, and the explanations I've given earlier in this thread, are the biggies as to why I don't consider anything Ultima weapon and beyond to have actually resolved yet. Why wouldn't we want a chance to RP the Garlean Empire as a clear and present, near-overwhelming danger? That's a huge plot arc that, if we only start RP post-Archon, gets completely overlooked.

 

I think because of the statements released that were along the lines that the Garlean Empire is going to again be a clear and present, near-overwhelming danger...in future patches.

[Artorias D'Argent]

Yup, as per MMO story-vs-RP standards from past games, once a patch hits that progresses the story, all previous plot kicks in as having happened. So until the 17th, we continue to RP as though Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium have not been hit by the Scions. After the 17th... Well, I guess we have to stop referring to it as an Umbral age.

 

It's extremely silly, but that's how these things are handled.

 

This ^

[Artorias D'Argent]

As someone whose RP is very closely tied to the Empire's machinations, it takes a lot of RP opportunity away from me to just RP as though the whole thing has already occurred. That, and the explanations I've given earlier in this thread, are the biggies as to why I don't consider anything Ultima weapon and beyond to have actually resolved yet. Why wouldn't we want a chance to RP the Garlean Empire as a clear and present, near-overwhelming danger? That's a huge plot arc that, if we only start RP post-Archon, gets completely overlooked.

 

I'm pretty much in the same boat.

[Anstarra]

TL;DR for this whole thread:

 

Do what you want, be flexible when interacting with people who view times differently, and don't be anal unless you want to alienate certain subsections of roleplayers. Some WILL RP pre-Main Story, some WILL RP post, some during. Deal with it, gloss over it when needed, and if it causes critical error... well, find someone else to RP with!

 

There is no RIGHT way to do it. Since RP isn't done ALONE, it's all about what your PARTNERS will accept. You can try to win them to your side, but don't be a dick ^^

[LandStander]

As someone whose RP is very closely tied to the Empire's machinations, it takes a lot of RP opportunity away from me to just RP as though the whole thing has already occurred. That, and the explanations I've given earlier in this thread, are the biggies as to why I don't consider anything Ultima weapon and beyond to have actually resolved yet. Why wouldn't we want a chance to RP the Garlean Empire as a clear and present, near-overwhelming danger? That's a huge plot arc that, if we only start RP post-Archon, gets completely overlooked.

 

I'm pretty much in the same boat.

 

*sniffs at the air* Do I smell a Garlean in the ranks?

 

Would you be interested in doing some stuff with these 129832749287 Garlean plots I have on my desk at the moment >.>?

[LiadansWhisper]

 

 

I'm pretty much in the same boat.

 

*sniffs at the air* Do I smell a Garlean in the ranks?

 

Would you be interested in doing some stuff with these 129832749287 Garlean plots I have on my desk at the moment >.>?

 

*points*  YOU owe me some RP, too!!!  :evil:

[Tla]

TL;DR for this whole thread:

 

Do what you want, be flexible when interacting with people who view times differently, and don't be anal unless you want to alienate certain subsections of roleplayers. Some WILL RP pre-Main Story, some WILL RP post, some during. Deal with it, gloss over it when needed, and if it causes critical error... well, find someone else to RP with!

 

There is no RIGHT way to do it. Since RP isn't done ALONE, it's all about what your PARTNERS will accept. You can try to win them to your side, but don't be a dick ^^

This a million times.

When I first replied my understandig was a canon had been established in the community. But since that seems far from being the case, everybody will have preferences, and should be free to do as they wish as long as there's ooc communication to avoid misunderstandings and awkward situations.

[Maril]

My FC and I roleplay as though the story has happened, and any new developments will be added to it over time. We have used a system in another game before where we allowed 1-2 months to pass before accepting new things as happenings, it gives people room to experience the story developments themselves, and also decreases the risk of the new developments to ruin any ongoing plots. There are means to get around people who roleplay in what is the past to us, even without going ooc, which is something we make sure everyone knows. Only within the FC do we strongly encourage that everyone is on the same page of the book, so as not to alienate some players from others, which is a thing that also applies to other areas of RP - such as fighting style, and other expectations that may vary greatly from player to player. 

 

Playing with the development of the story can be a lot of fun, especially when it is not predicted too easily what comes next, it may induce things that are hard to induce on your own (such as wide-spread famines and other larger disaster elements) that in turn helps develop characters further and even in directions even the player did not expect. Not to say that isn't possible with anything else, but it's something I personally enjoy with it ^^ 

 

As with all things RP, not everyone will be in the same agreement. Focus on finding a group that suits your desires, and otherwise remember that there is no "right" way, only different ways.

[Seriphyn]

Seems Revenant's Toll will be changing "Due to developments in the main story". So who knows what else might change.

[Fulcrum]

Seems Revenant's Toll will be changing "Due to developments in the main story". So who knows what else might change.

The picture they showed for that was such a tease. I want to see more of what it looks like, damnit!

[John Spiegel]

My folks and I are mulling around and have pretty much agreed to wait until the first expansion announcement for the majority of 2.0 plot to have happened. That's still up for debate, though, in our house. We've concluded that during those big boy raids at the end of 2.0 storyline that our characters would be at one of the other raids wooping ass at another Castrum or some other facet (Crystalline is about charity/healing, so a good portion of them might be behind the battleline tending to wounded even), but that's still a ways away from us properly RPing it.

 

We're running on such a lagged timeframe from input from folks' experience on various MMOs and that our individual plots aren't really tied to the main storyline anyways. This will always be an issue in any RP community since not every group will agree on when to say "hey, we're all officially at the end of content A".

[ArmachiA]

The Night Blades have decided to move the game story forward after finding out the game story is going to continue in 2.1 instead of just being ooc things (And the fact the world is actually going to change ). So Everything that happened in game currently will have been considered done once we get into the game again.

 

So for US that means no more CM or Prae IC runs, and we'll be calling it the first year of the 8th Astral Era (or whatever), but not that much will change. We have some Garleans but they won't be affected by the Garlean retreat too much since they are an infiltration unit.

[John Spiegel]

The Night Blades have decided to move the game story forward after finding out the game story is going to continue in 2.1 instead of just being ooc things (And the fact the world is actually going to change ). So Everything that happened in game currently will have been considered done once we get into the game again.

 

So for US that means no more CM or Prae IC runs, and we'll be calling it the first year of the 8th Astral Era (or whatever), but not that much will change. We have some Garleans but they won't be affected by the Garlean retreat too much since they are an infiltration unit.

 

7th Astral ^^

 

6th Astral -> Bahamut's Birfday reigned in 6th Umbral -> Defeat of Ultima Weapon/Garleans in Eorzea reigned in 7th Astral

[Fulcrum]

We'll see if they don't retract that. It seems like most of the eras lasted a lot longer than this, and that their decision of calling the end of the Umbral was waaaay too premature.

[ArmachiA]

Umbral Era, in canon, don't last long.

[LiadansWhisper]

Umbral Era, in canon, don't last long.

 

Ya, but the end of an Umbral Era is supposed to be marked by a significant time of peace.  And that's not happening here, which is why it's just so...odd.  :dodgy:

[Fulcrum]

Umbral Era, in canon, don't last long.

 

Ya, but the end of an Umbral Era is supposed to be marked by a significant time of peace.  And that's not happening here, which is why it's just so...odd.  :dodgy:

Exactly. There's obviously not going to be that long period of peace just yet, which is why I'm kind of hoping the leaders go "We jumped the gun...".

 

 

I did notice the Scions are still calling themselves Scions of the Seventh Dawn, so I'm kind of wondering if there is going to be a point where someone does say "this is not the Astral Era". Though that might just be them sticking to an established name.

[Kieron Lohengrin]

As someone whose character is an active Scion agent, I'm enjoying the story developments and dungeons in 2.1; such as Cid leading the CT expedition, Alphinaud pushing for neutrality and independence away from the city-states, and every other organization or merchant group sending gifts and trying to curry favor with the Scions. The plot keeps moving forward, and the takedowns of Gaius, Ultima, and the primals haven't gone unnoticed.

 

Enjoyed some great day-one group RP at Seventh Heaven in Mor Dhona, too. It'll be one of my toon's new IC hangouts.

[Fulcrum]

Been thinking about this today, and I think our FC is going with the idea that the main storyline quests have occurred as of 2.1 up through the post-credits cut scene over the course of the uh...five months since launch, and the original Chronicles of a New Era are sort of a "happening right now" thing, where basically a bunch of groups keep being sent into Binding Coil to investigate/conduct research, because we're just getting to Binding Coil as a raid group here after the holidays.

 

 

Certain parts of 2.1 are similar - the new primal raids, the new dungeons, the beast tribe dailies, etc. Possibly Crystal Tower as well. They're all happening now, as they're things that multiple groups can be involved in frequently, if RP'd properly.

 

 

The details with the Scions themselves are a bit trickier. While currently non of the Embers are members of the Scions, their presence is acknowledged as a sidelong element of various members RP. Their "coming out of the Sands" (announcing themselves to the world) and moving to Mor Dhona are pretty big things, and we're still trying to decide if that's something that should be kept current, or held off till the main story receives an update; given the fact that Mor Dhona's received a huge facelift, we're likely going to go with the idea that the announcements and move have taken place in the world setting, and leave it at that. We're all still going through those quests, though.