Kurt S. Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share #26 Posted January 6, 2015 Yeah unfortunately you do need to be level 50 and your grand company rank has to be the highest rank (2nd Lieutenant iirc) + 300k. Used to keep urging an RPer to try to hit the rank and level so he could get the room asap since we had the funds to get him the room but he also had so much more RP that it wasn't really a thing. It's up to you at that point whether or not your plot(s) or not will align with your interests in leveling, etc. But honestly as a tank, it won't take you long to get to 50 either. Welp, I guess it's time to farm dem GC seals then. Kurt's got a lot to do before he fulfills his dream of having a house(sorta) of his own. The only reason to get to 50 in regards to RP is for more clothing options. Seriously, that's it. And MAYBE some extra abilities to be a little more flashy at the Grindstone (Circle of Scorn downward stab, kapow!). I was in all sorts of RP experiences from a lowly level 15-ish all the way to 50. The only time I felt out of place due to my level was when I RPed a one-shot NPC villain who was supposed to be robbing a caravan. I was using NIN and I only had the first two Mudras, and we had a straight little level 18-ish Lancer. Graphically, the defenders put on a better light show than we did. There's nothing very visually threatening about a little Lala ninja-jumping into the middle of the group and doing the little rain of knives. Especially after emoting up how much of a showboat and badass you are. Every other time, level has never been an issue. So getting to 50 is a purely cosmetic thing then mainly for looking cool/badass/godlike then? I remember Kage saying something like that back when I asked the question out of pure curiosity. Though I admit, I like how the Ironworks armor looks like *drool* That's been my experience. Though, with the advent of more level 1 gear that's solely for RP and glamouring, that's becoming less and less necessary. I had at least three or four different sets of gear I could put Chachan in well before he hit 50. Speaking of glamouring, which lets you make your gear like another piece of gear, I think that's another thing you need to be level 50 to unlock. Though, while it's nice if you want to go into dungeons IC and such... it's not so important when you're just hanging around the Quicksand or something. I don't think I've glamoured anything on Chachan yet! Is there some sort of hoop I have to jump through for the glamouring? Aside from being 50 that is. A long assed fetch quest or a kill something quest? As the others have said, don't be discouraged by your level! Hitting 50 for RP really is pretty much for the clothes, since I've yet to see someone do some IC raid or anything. (Although I've seen RP go all the way to Dzemael Darkhold as a lv44 dungeon.) In my experience, if a Free Company or Event is going to do some IC dungeon, and there are a lot of people, they'll have lower-level alternatives or other objectives if someone can't go into the main dungeon of choice. Like....investigating the Tam-tara Deepcroft lv15 version for signs of what was to come in the lv50 version. The Making Connections board is also great for finding some more similarly-minded people, especially if there's an idea you have that you'd like to try. If there -is- a dungeon you'd like to do, whether IC or OOC to advance the main-story, you can always hit me up as well! I cannot guarantee being free, but if say, you're lv27 and will need to get to a certain lv28 dungeon or so, I can make sure I'm free during a part of the day, or reschedule banging my head at some content. (Franz is also good at the whole 'swing the axe' thing. He was a combat mentor. Once.) Thank you for the insight. I've seen people try to go IC in a dungeon(Sastasha) once, it took us like an hour or so to finish it. But that's beside the point. If he's good at the swing that axe thing then maybe if the two of them meet Kurt might get a few tricks with the axe from him after being a gopher or something of course. Well as it is I'm on the arduous road of 37-40. Link to comment
Gegenji Posted January 6, 2015 Share #27 Posted January 6, 2015 Is there some sort of hoop I have to jump through for the glamouring? Aside from being 50 that is. A long assed fetch quest or a kill something quest? You just talk to a guy, then I think talk to someone else (in the same town), then talk to him again. That's it. It's wonderful. Link to comment
Aduu Avagnar Posted January 6, 2015 Share #28 Posted January 6, 2015 you know that if I see you'll and I'm IC I'll try to interact with you Link to comment
Unnamed Mercenary Posted January 6, 2015 Share #29 Posted January 6, 2015 Thank you for the insight. I've seen people try to go IC in a dungeon(Sastasha) once, it took us like an hour or so to finish it. But that's beside the point. If he's good at the swing that axe thing then maybe if the two of them meet Kurt might get a few tricks with the axe from him after being a gopher or something of course. Well as it is I'm on the arduous road of 37-40. Used to chase this one person around *cough* Kage *cough* around in some playfully murderous intent. Franz would be good for learning how to use the weapon (possibly), but aether things? Best leave him out. As in, aether-sensitive people would sense some really messed up stuff coming from him. Part of his trying-to-not-be-grumpy charm. I'll see about plopping him down in Ul'dah more often. Been hanging around the house in Mist too much. If you're typically online anywhere between 3-9 PM PST on weekdays, I'll be roaming about or crafting OOC unless hitting up the duty finder. Link to comment
Aya Posted January 6, 2015 Share #30 Posted January 6, 2015 Seriously? I can't even imagine the thought process that leads to anyone thinking or saying that :-] I rarely even notice someone's level! I can't recall ever running into that sort of thing either.. though I guess I can't say that I'm surprised that its out there. Hopefully I'll be back around in the Quick Sand more, I wish I'd met you already! Link to comment
Dravus Posted January 6, 2015 Share #31 Posted January 6, 2015 Generally speaking your character's level is largely irrelevant unless you're embracing a role that demands the ability to not get slain by the first enemy that stumbles across your path. If you intend to role-play something like a waiter in a tavern then you could very well do such a thing without ever leaving the safety of a settlement. On the other hand if your character is described as being a seasoned adventurer then it is best to be able to back that up by not being slain in a matter of seconds if your character steps beyond the outskirts of one of the major cities. A lot of it is simply down to personal taste as well. Some people see levels as completely irrelevant whilst others see them as a sign that someone is willing to invest in their character to begin with. Contrary to what some people may claim neither stance is wrong - there's countless different styles when it comes to role-play and the community is made up of a lot of different people who have made FFXIV their home after coming from all sorts of other MMO's and RP sites with complex and differing rules and approaches to etiquette. You're better off just seeking out like-minded individuals that align with your personal style and go from there after building up a network around you. Link to comment
Melkire Posted January 6, 2015 Share #32 Posted January 6, 2015 Confirmation bias at work. All it takes is for some long-standing and/or well-known member of the RP community to walk in the room and suddenly the chances of the person you're currently RPing with ditching you to go roleplay with Mr. Famous go up drastically. But the brain doesn't process that, because those qualities aren't visible. The brain only sees "Lv 50" and assumes that the reason Mr. Famous is getting all this hot RP action is because they're level-capped. Truth is, their level is merely a consequence of their having played the game long enough to clear content on at least a semi-regular basis. I've experienced this phenomenon from all three angles: the person being ditched, the person doing the ditching, and the person someone else is ditching someone for. It happens. If you're new and hanging around in a RP hub like the Quicksand by your lonesome, be prepared for it to happen A LOT. 1 Link to comment
Demitri Omni Posted January 6, 2015 Share #33 Posted January 6, 2015 I think in the long-term, having your character(s) at 50 helps greatly for the purposes of making them dress how you ultimately want them to look, especially if they are meant to be specialized in a field of some sort IC. As far as being a requirement, hardly, though you may find it hard to find good outfits if you don't at least have a main to funnel gil from. Link to comment
Faye Posted January 6, 2015 Share #34 Posted January 6, 2015 I don't think the issue in this is really your level. Sadly, a lot of people just operate in their own little cliques. Others are only interested in RPing with sexy catgirls. Why these same people have "Walk-ups welcome" in their Search Info, I've no idea, but it happens. Maybe it's been in there since before their clique was found? Maybe it's only there to encourage sexy catgirls? Who knows? At any rate, being level 50 will give you more clothing options to make your character look more appealing, as well as help people know you're more likely to be someone who will stick with the game for a while and make interacting with you worth their time. Sure, it can make you more appealing to RP, but I don't think level is the issue. Some people are just absorbed in their own friends/interest, and their friends they've likely known in game for a while, hence are probably level 50 by now. Link to comment
Swashbuckler Posted January 6, 2015 Share #35 Posted January 6, 2015 My belief is that anyone who puts a level requirement for RP should be shot. Anyone ranging from 1 to 50 should RP and be allowed to RP and should not be ignored. As others have already said, the only caveat for RPing at 50 is the selection of gear that will be available to you. (Even though I think mages get screwed over as far as gear goes but that's another story altogether.) It also appears to me that a lot of people who RP in the Quicksand already know each other so they tend to just RP with each other and ignore everyone else. While I am somewhat guilty for this too, I've been trying to do better about this by just randomly going up to someone for RP. Yep, I get ignored too. But that's the nature of The Quicksand sometimes. If I see you around, I'll be sure to poke at you for tavern conversation, Kurt. Link to comment
Dat Oni Posted January 6, 2015 Share #36 Posted January 6, 2015 I have been rping since level 1. There is no reason to restrict roleplay to level 50. Link to comment
Aaron Posted January 6, 2015 Share #37 Posted January 6, 2015 (Now if only I could qoute multiple posts. But that's beside the point.) So all this is just a spot of bad luck that'll just go away right? Some are shy so that just means I just need to be a little more persistent and maybe, just maybe I can explore Eorzea with someone other than myself. That all this is being ignored part is either through shyness or probably because they just associate with level 50s who I assume have poetics or soldieries equppied. The latter point has happened to me in the past. But those are rare occurences right? So that bit about being a level 5 big bad must have been awesome to do. Solo RPs also interact with the environment right? So I just need to vary what I do and up the quality of what I put out and that might increase my chances of someone joining in, I hope. Level makes little to no impact unless in a dungeon RP, which sounds very interesting, or they are 'EndRPers', which are probably few and far in between right? And suddenly someone named Andy is probably hot on Kurt's trail. Wonderful! I really do appreciate the resonses everyone. Hopefully I get to reflect that despite typing on a phone. Yep! If you still need help Aaron would probably be like a interesting friend for Kurt. He has odd relationship with everyone lol Some absolutely love his business side and seriousness. Others say it makes him a introvert. Om like personal preference Link to comment
Demitri Omni Posted January 6, 2015 Share #38 Posted January 6, 2015 I don't think anyone directly 'restricts' RP at lower levels, though I will say a lot of people tend to prefer to keep friends OOC that they can do content with. I can't really say one way or another, since I tend to lone wolf in-game content (My schedule is so erratic, I can never hold onto a static), but I know it's the case with a good handful of my friends. Link to comment
Kellach Woods Posted January 6, 2015 Share #39 Posted January 6, 2015 The thing is that you've got so much more freedom to alter your looks at 50 that it's much easier to make something that'll INSTANTLY catch someone's eye than before. I barely got RP outside my tiny inner circle until I switched to the yellow glamour and now I get a lot. Also, if the Quicksand isn't working for you, get out of there. The Quicksand is the biggest RP lie I've ever seen. People DO RP in there, but just to show off how much RP they're getting. IF you want to hit up someone there, I've found that hitting up people who are alone will be a better choice than groups. Link to comment
Briggs Posted January 7, 2015 Share #40 Posted January 7, 2015 Barring people from roleplay because of their level is just silly. Link to comment
Kurt S. Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share #41 Posted January 7, 2015 Well thanks for the insight everyone. So it could probably not just be my level so much as they already have their little clique and probably refuse(or panic or lock up) when a total stranger wants to try for a spot of RP. Or it could also have something to do with this confrontational bias concept, which I guess does not necessitate the level 50 thing and can still be chalked off to the clique mentality. I guess I just need to start dying my armor Bright Pink to gather attention if Yellow can catch people's eyes I think Kurt would welcome any business related advice from Aaron to be honest (if it works OOCly that'll help me raise the 300k I need for a room ) EDIT: I dyed it pink....what have I done....It looks so entertaining to be dancing in pink...halp ;_; Link to comment
Kellach Woods Posted January 7, 2015 Share #42 Posted January 7, 2015 EDIT: I dyed it pink....what have I done....It looks so entertaining to be dancing in pink...halp ;_; All the fun things happen when I'm not there ;.; Link to comment
Kurt S. Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share #43 Posted January 7, 2015 EDIT: I dyed it pink....what have I done....It looks so entertaining to be dancing in pink...halp ;_; All the fun things happen when I'm not there ;.; I'll keep the pink dyed armor then and you can just shoot me PM if you want to see some strangeness. I also have another reason to get to 50...the Manderville Dance....yesssss Link to comment
Kellach Woods Posted January 7, 2015 Share #44 Posted January 7, 2015 I'll keep the pink dyed armor then and you can just shoot me PM if you want to see some strangeness. I also have another reason to get to 50...the Manderville Dance....yesssss Hah, I'd have done the bright pink thing myself but I thought it was already too much to have this much pretty in one character. Didn't prevent me from doing highlights early on though! Link to comment
Kurt S. Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share #45 Posted January 7, 2015 I'll keep the pink dyed armor then and you can just shoot me PM if you want to see some strangeness. I also have another reason to get to 50...the Manderville Dance....yesssss Hah, I'd have done the bright pink thing myself but I thought it was already too much to have this much pretty in one character. Didn't prevent me from doing highlights early on though! But there's not such thing as too much pretty, I daresay the pink armor makes the tin can look more prettiful Link to comment
Aduu Avagnar Posted January 7, 2015 Share #46 Posted January 7, 2015 Nako isn't too impressed about the bright pink btw.... then again, Kurt could simply be channeling Otto...... Link to comment
Kurt S. Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share #47 Posted January 7, 2015 Nako isn't too impressed about the bright pink btw.... then again, Kurt could simply be channeling Otto...... Otto? Link to comment
Aduu Avagnar Posted January 7, 2015 Share #48 Posted January 7, 2015 Nako isn't too impressed about the bright pink btw.... then again, Kurt could simply be channeling Otto...... Otto? Otto Vann, Ul'dah's finest in fashion Link to comment
ArmachiA Posted January 7, 2015 Share #49 Posted January 7, 2015 Most of my FC don't go to the Quicksand for a multitude of reasons. Despite it being a hub, it can be very clique-y. We love new people if you want a solid group to interact with, regardless of level, give me a buzz and I can let you into our ooc shell. 1 Link to comment
TheLastCandle Posted January 7, 2015 Share #50 Posted January 7, 2015 Come and find Yvelont in the Shroud. Depending on the circumstances, he will guide you to a safe haven, escort you out of the Twelveswood, or mistake you for a poacher and try to kill you. -smiles cheerfully- It'll be a blast, please say yes. Link to comment
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