Your Au Ra: Old or New?

[Harmonixer]

I am convinced at this point that Au Ra will become the new Miqo'te/Hyur Midlander.

 

Actually, I'm kind of hoping this happens because I want to feel like a special snowflake (not that I actually need any help in that regard).

 

We'll see. With so many people bitching about the differences between the genders they may not be popular at all.

 

I don't really mind eitherway. Au Ra are a really awesome looking race and I hope their lore lives up to expectations.

 

I'd rather see a bunch of horned freaks than more cats though, if I'm being honest.

[Uninstalldotexe]

I will definitely be making an Au Ra main and setting my Lala aside as a alt. I don't really have any ideas yet for my RaRa because I waiting to see what the lore is for them.  As a side note, I am totally down for collaborating if anyone wants to do that.

[Altitis Acquired]

I might change an existing character into an Au Ra, however, ICly he will be a completely new character.

[allgivenover]

I don't think dragon people will ever hold a candle to cat-girls in long term popularity, but we'll see.

[Uninstalldotexe]

I don't think dragon people will ever hold a candle to cat-girls in long term popularity, but we'll see.

I definitely agree on this.

[Hyrist]

I'm just waiting to see the already established character who "was actually an Au Ra all along."

 

 

You can stop waiting.

 

 

 

 

That's effectively Lin's story, though that rabbit hole goes quite a bit deeper. She's unaware of of her 'real' race.

 

 

 

[Martiallais]

Likely a brand spanking new character though I've tooled around with potentially fantasia'ing an alty.

[Michikyou]

I really hope the gender ratio is a normal one so we dont have another miqo'te incident happening. :3

[industrythirteen]

I will be killing off my current character, fantasia-ing and renaming her to an Au Ra. That's been the plan since Au Ra were announced. Haven't been RPing much at all because I'm just completely done with my current character.

[allgivenover]

New just seems much more interesting to me because depending on the lore we might be getting the chance to roleplay someone totally ignorant of Eorzea and have it work completely.

[WaywardVagrant]

My guy will turn into one. And depending how the lore works will determine how that will go down.

[Michikyou]

I've been uming and Ahhing about Au-ra for a while now. And I can onyl come back to the same conclusion.

 

I really don't like the design choice made by square on how the females look. It isn't the aesthetic of them, they're haunting in a weird creepy collectors doll way.

Ball Joint Dolls with glue on their face, what isn't to like?

 

What really irritates me about them the most is the unnatural height difference between the females and the males. The males - according to my observation in videos are around Male Highlander size while the females are probably around Miqo'te size.

 

Now this makes my head spin, The height on top of the smaller features and forced innocence on a race based on awesome dragons makes me think they are trying to sexualise adolescence. Which, is most likely not the case. 

 

Is anyone else as weirded out about the height difference as me?  I know that most people will play what is more appealing to them - but.. For me? I don't see the appeal of such a forcibly young character being attacked by monsters, other people and the like - same reason I can't play a lalafell. 

 

Thoughts?

[allgivenover]

This thread is for if your AuRa is going to be a new character or an old one. Not for discussion about the merits or flaws of the race's design.

 

But since we're here why not address some points?

 

What really irritates me about them the most is the unnatural height difference between the females and the males. The males - according to my observation in videos are around Male Highlander size while the females are probably around Miqo'te size. 

 

Oh yes, very unnatural for sexual dimorphism to exist in a fantasy race.

 

The dimorphism thing is getting stupid. It happens in nature:

 

 

Examples of extreme height difference in humans:

 

 

 

Now this makes my head spin, The height on top of the smaller features and forced innocence on a race based on awesome dragons makes me think they are trying to sexualise adolescence. Which, is most likely not the case. 

 

Better stay away from Miqo'te then as it's difficult to make one that doesn't look like an adolescent, and hoo boy are they sexualized!

 

It's cultural differences. In Japan youth == beauty in a way that makes the dynamic here in the west look meek.

 

I know that most people will play what is more appealing to them - but.. For me? I don't see the appeal of such a forcibly young character being attacked by monsters, other people and the like - same reason I can't play a lalafell. 

 

So don't play one. Not everyone has reservations about what a character can be involved with because their apparent age doesn't at least match some arbitrary real world standard.

[Michikyou]

This thread is for if your AuRa is going to be a new character or an old one. Not for discussion about the merits or flaws of the race's design.

 

But since we're here why not address some points?

 

What really irritates me about them the most is the unnatural height difference between the females and the males. The males - according to my observation in videos are around Male Highlander size while the females are probably around Miqo'te size. 

 

Oh yes, very unnatural for sexual dimorphism to exist in a fantasy race.

 

The dimorphism thing is getting stupid. It happens in nature:

 

 

 

Examples of extreme height difference in humans:

 

 

 

 

 

Now this makes my head spin, The height on top of the smaller features and forced innocence on a race based on awesome dragons makes me think they are trying to sexualise adolescence. Which, is most likely not the case. 

 

Better stay away from Miqo'te then as it's difficult to make one that doesn't look like an adolescent, and hoo boy are they sexualized!

 

It's cultural differences. In Japan youth == beauty in a way that makes the dynamic here in the west look meek.

 

I know that most people will play what is more appealing to them - but.. For me? I don't see the appeal of such a forcibly young character being attacked by monsters, other people and the like - same reason I can't play a lalafell. 

 

So don't play one. Not everyone has reservations about what a character can be involved with because their apparent age doesn't at least match some arbitrary real world standard.

 

Its great you linked a bunch of pictures and still completely missed my point.

My point was that the height difference is not within a normal difference. I am well aware sexual dimorphism occurs in reality. I just think that the sheer difference compared to the other races of Eorzea is very un-natural.

 

I did make it clear that this was my personal opinion, i'm not attacking anyone. I am well aware of the fact that japan objectify youth like many other Asian countries do - heck, I lived there a while.  I don't know, I was hoping for something that would scale up with the male counter-part realistically like the other races.

[allgivenover]

I am well aware sexual dimorphism occurs in reality. I just think that the sheer difference compared to the other races of Eorzea is very un-natural.

 

Considering the possible origins of the AuRa...

 

They are likely the result of St. Shiva laying with a Dragon long ago. Even in Eorzea their origins would be considered very unnatural, so it's fine that they don't fit the rest of the Eorzean mold. Also consider how Dragons themselves vary wildly in size, with Bahamut being skyscraper sized and the smallest you encounter in coil being about the size of a large dog. It's my pet theory that Eorzean female dragons are much smaller than the males, which if true would explain the AuRa height-gender disparity in part.

 

 

And yes I understand you arn't attacking anyone, but coming into what is obviously a thread full of people who are intent on playing AuRa and attempting to start a discussion driven with what you feel is "wrong" about them comes across as attacking people who want to play AuRa, and certainly unwelcome here when we have other threads on this very subject already.

 

I'm frankly tired of reading the dimorphism critique, especially when the community as a whole gravitates towards petite/young adolescent looking females in the majority while griping about AuRa dimorphism, it reeks of hypocrisy.

[Aaron]

No need to get so defensive dude.

 

Anyway I changed my mind. I might ponder an Au Ra. Maybe if u tried a different race id grow to like it.

[Kismet]

Honestly? Some us are just sick and tired of reading it over and over and over again.

 

I won't tell people to stop complaining about what they don't like... (Especially when I find it extremely ironic that people primarily call the females generic, when I can point out just as many things about the males that are just as overdone and bland.) I can say that I find those harsh critiques (albeit unintentionally) are a bit much when found in a topic that isn't even asking for that kind of opinion, though.

 

/shrug

[Michikyou]

Huh? I don't find the females generic - I just think they just feel like the other races - but younger. Dragons are cool. Dolls? not so much.

[Gone.]

I like dolls, though.

[ShoggMommy]

Anyway, to try to get back on topic instead of this dissolving further. (As the point of the thread was really "old char vs new char",) I plan on personally doing a new character(s) once the expansion comes out. I'd like to play a female and a male. They look neat so far from what I've seen of them.

[Wymsical]

Brand new. I retired my old character (who I hadn't played for months anyway) and am now awaiting 3.0 to actually begin RPing again. Probably not even right off the bat too; we might find out more about Au Ra lore in the actual Heavensward part of the expansion and I won't be seeing that portion for a little while since I'm switching to astrologian. There's so much about Au Ra that we simply don't know yet that I can't imagine RPing one already. We don't know about their native culture, the circumstances of their arrival to Eorzea and ect. So many fiddly details! They might be in similar circumstances as Yugiri or she could be an exception. We don't even know naming conventions yet. 

 

I'm very excited to see what info is revealed in the upcoming patch and any other updates via the forums or lore reveals. I'm sure the new benchmark will also have more lore, especially the basic differences between clans.

[Gabineaux]

Killing my character off in a horrible murder suicide (probably?) I don't know.

 

....I'm really excited for the dragon lore. I'm hoping it isn't Doman. I hope Yugiri is a special dragon and all the other dragons come from somewhere else. PLS YOSHI P PLS. YOSHI P HEAR MY PRAYERS.