Tiergan

I'm unfortunately buried in deadlines and may not be able to participate. Apologies!

I still dream of the day where SE will let Lalafell hitch a ride on the shoulders of taller races.

THIS. I shouldn't have to stick a tag in my character's search info. People should have the common decency to at least send a tell first before diving right into talk about penises and attempting to kiss an underage character five minutes after meeting them (which, by the way, is what made me post this). Right now they do not, and that's why people like myself, Sophia and others are frustrated that when we're on our alts and mains that are essentially children we have to ward off creeps with a stick. I can only imagine how messed up it must be for an actual teenager RPing a character that is a minor to have to deal with this.

I am a lot more understanding of two people playing teenaged characters actually, genuinely exploring the awkward clusterfuck that is teenage sexuality even if one is 19 and the other is 17. There's so much potential for hilarious storytelling. The thing I am more specifically talking about are characters where there is an obvious age gap and we have older characters pursuing ones that are much younger - like a 25 year old hitting on a 15 year old or a 16 year old trying to jump on the bones of a 27 year old. In terms of the argument that "We do so much worse things like murder, torture, rape, etc in RP!" Those are all horrible things that we RP as horrible things played for drama and conflict. They also usually happen to adult characters. When they happen to child characters, the horror and impact of it is seen as even worse. No one can tell me that the dude trying to hit on my friend's young miqo'te teen or my 15 year old lalafell is trying to RP a child-adult romance for the horror and narrative of it. Or that teenaged characters trying to get into Tiergan's pantaloons are doing it as a horrible thing played for drama and conflict. They're usually thinking that they can initiate it the same way as they would any other RP romance and move it along like any other RP relationship. I know we let a lot of things slide as RPers for story-purposes, but normalizing an adult-child romantic relationship and its fetishization is creepy, enabling of really dangerous behavior, and should just not be one of those things we just let happen, guys. Call it inciting a witchhunt if you will. At the very least, I shouldn't have to put a "No ERP" tag on my 15 year old character just to avoid it. EDIT: Most awkward and hilarious typo ever. :V

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Alright, if it pleases folks, I have crossed out the entire section about 'You can potentially get in trouble for this if you're two adults writing sexual RP involving a minor' and simply replaced it with the quotes I felt best represented my feelings on the whole matter. At the end of the day, I'm not out to sit and define whether or not books of literary value should be considered child porn just because they depict a minor in a sexual situation. I'm here to point out there are inherent problems in RPing sexually active minors, the least of which is normalizing and enabling something that is no bueno.

I am just going to bold all of this.

This. I know it's just harmless RP. I know allgivenover mentioned stuff like violence, kidnapping, murder, rape, etc that we let slide - but these are all things we inherently know are wrong and terrible. People RPing out their fetishes of sexual RP with minors don't necessarily view their RP as doing something 'wrong' or at the very least, don't often RP it as something inherently wrong. It is normalizing and enabling something that, to be frank, is a pretty big problem in the world already.

Hngngng. I want all of your gear. ;A;

Crowmelon pretty much covered all the things I wanted to say. I am not a prude by any means. I'm as perverted and dirty-minded as they come, but I honestly feel really irritated that I apparently shouldn't be surprised by people propositioning my 15-year old, toddler-shaped innocent girl character for sex by adult-characters and actually have to stick a "No ERP" tag in my search because it's a common fetish. There's a reason why we look down on a guy if he's 30 years old and propositioning a 15 year old girl - it's because there is something extremely unhealthy and dangerous about that dynamic. Even if the 30-year old guy, by some miracle, actually has good positive intentions and wants to pursue the relationship the right way (is there even a 'right way' really?), there is still so much potential for it to go horribly wrong and lead to him taking advantage of the child or doing really terrible, damaging things. All of this stuff rarely, if ever, gets addressed in RP where characters that are minors are trying to engage in ERP. It's all heavily fetishized. If that floats your boat - great, but perhaps folks shouldn't be foisting their fetishes onto other people without their consent.

I am going to elaborate on the whole RPing as a minor when you're an adult thing later when I have more time, but I just wanted to second what Faye said. Just because you or people you know didn't have anything bad happen to them when ERPing with a minor, doesn't mean serious consequences haven't happened to others. It's not smart to make light of it or say that you shouldn't bother being concerned about it even if the minor can be a huge douche and lie about their age just so they can ERP.

I don't really want this to get derailed by whether or not it is acceptable for people to RP out romances with lalafell characters, because what Faolan mentioned is absolutely on point. If people are adults and RPing adult lalafell characters, they can RP whatever they want as two consenting adults. It may not be to your tastes, it's not really anyone's business but theirs. Also: Damnit Faolan, we talked about my bologna fetish. It was supposed to be a secret. ;A;.

I am okay with folks doing romantic/sexual RP with their adult lalafell characters if they want to. It's just UNIMAGINABLY awful when people try to proposition my goddamn 15 year old lalafell who very much acts like a young, derpy kid. Like, the entire point of her character is to be an adorable goofball that is the last thing you ever want to think of when boners are involved.

Just to clarify, I am not talking about mild crushes or sweet little romances between two teenaged characters where it's all fluffy feelings, hand-holding, and nothing very serious happens. I'm talking about romance RP of any sexually charged nature whether or not you actually get around to ERPing. Several friends and I who play underage characters have been approached and pursued for RP of a sexual nature, even when their age is made apparent. (Yes, someone has tried to hit on Leilani Leilai despite the fact that she announced she was just 15 summers and is the shape of a fucking toddler, guys, come on now.) I have also seen younger characters attempt to pursue adults for romance. I want to make people very aware the serious legal consequences sexual RP involving minors IC or OOC (OOC especially) can have. If the person you're RPing with happens to be a minor in real life - congratulations, you just broke the law, even if both of your characters are of age. If you're caught, you can be labeled a sex offender for the rest of your life. [video=youtube]http://youtu.be/gtMBuJkgiNw If the character you are pursing sexual RP with is a IC minor, but OOCly an adult, you're both still possibly breaking laws depending on where you live. You can try to justify it by saying that Eorzea is a different world with a more medieval approach towards who is considered an adult - but let's be honest here in that's just splitting hairs to enable what ultimately is written child-pornography. I know that with characters that are 17, it can also be very easy to rationlise that it's not as bad because they're almost legal and practically adults, but 'practically an adult' is not the same thing as 'an adult'. Edit: Right, how about we just say this - When it comes to two adults and one is RPing a minor, here are some choice quotes from the thread... If you're already embroiled in something like this or have done something like this before, it's okay - everyone makes poor decisions. However, after reading this - you can no longer claim ignorance if you do not exit that kind of RP and end it. In closing: If you're an adult RPing a minor and you want sexually charged RP - age them up. If you're an adult and a character that is a minor tries to approach you for sexually charged RP - just say no. If you're a minor and you're rping period - don't engage in sexually charged RP, you could get someone labeled a sex offender for life. Just don't do it.

Oh my gooood. ;A;

Glad to hear that things are okay now! I was really starting to worry.

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Gobbieking Gobwyn had a blast! Thanks for hosting the event!

Leilani's costume for the Coral Sea Halloween party! She won first prize for the costume contest and won a Mandragora Queen. I was pretty damn psyched. ;-; Also, Tiergan dressed as L'aenoh Tia in a Tacky Gold Suit.

Oh my god. You get all the reputation points. Thank you, sir.

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My friend anonymously requests to know if he can be the chair.

Gorgeous stuff!

I feel like that new miqo'te hair looks awesome on every cat except Tiergan.