Tiergan

(( Amg Ember. ;A: ))

Just in case you and I have a different idea of what I mean when I say "plot": My character has a backstory and defined goals/aspirations that drive him, but when I say "plot", I mean a story arc that is somewhat planned out in advance for multiple people to participate in. If we are talking about the same thing, than I have seen villainous characters in other MMOs freely RP based upon their own goals, ambitions, and natural character interaction without having a major plot or event guide things along every step of the way. I wanted the same thing for my own character and am probably going to try seeking it out while drumming up a plot on the back burner. I hope this makes sense. I am honestly a little confused by your line of questioning.

I'm not sure I understand. If you wanted to avoid having a plot then why are you even suggesting being an antagonist? Why kind of RP could you possibly be seeking from people without some sort of foundation to run off of? Do you want your character to be a villain(and therefore have an objective/goals) or do you just want him to be a jerk to people that are against his personal cause? I'm not adverse to having a plot at all. However, having one usually means I have to take the time to plan stuff out, herd folks together, see if they're even interested in whatever plot I'm cooking up in the first place, see if they're free to RP with me and if our schedules even match, etc - which, while very rewarding if successful - can also be very time-consuming. Unfortunately, I don't really have a lot of free time these days, which is the one and only reason why orchestrating a plot just to play an antagonist is kind of a bummer for me. A lot of my RP on characters these days develops naturally and organically just by interacting with people and engaging with them. I was hoping there was a way to RP a character with a more villainous slant with people in a similar way - where rivalry, challenge, and opposition is organic and develops on its own, which was why I made this thread hoping for any tips. I guess I'll just have to sit and think more on what I want and whether those things can even be achievable RPing in a more organic way or if I *have* to plan out a ton of stuff in advance.

I am mostly just wondering what the marriage-mount looks like and if you get it automatically for getting married. :V

Is there any lore info on heretics? Do they ALL go raving bonkers or only some of them? The guy in the MSQ seemed fairly lucid and only turned into a dragon when cornered. Could be some, could be all on the raving bonkers bit, but there's terribly little lore right now. Hopefully more comes Tuesday, but you get your subtle in the MSQ of 2.0, then you get the fanaticism that's expected from Ishgard's tales in Stone Vigil Hard. Though it did seem that they are completely obsessed with Dravania and serving them as a whole if all of the Harriers in Stone Vigil hard had a say in that. The ones you stun or they turn into Aevis? They've done some ritual and are far gone with their sanity. All that 'blood and fire!' shouting and whatnot before and after transformation points that out. Just because some crazy people sound lucid doesn't mean they arn't crazy. Just my two cents. Until we get more lore, I'm just going to opt for the subtler, scheming version of crazy heretic we saw in MSQ. It's much less fun to just be a total ranting loon.

I was wondering why there was no reference to Square's favorite milk-sop, Sephiroth. I guess they're saving him for when he descends from on high to single-handedly wipe out all the bad guys and lead us all to a glorious second-life of leather jackets and well-maintained hair. Or he took over the Garlean Empire and won the battle of succession. :V [Edit: Damnit forums, stop changing my links into youtube videos. >:C If I wanted to embed the video, I would use the youtube command.]

I'm okay with things eventually building to the point where my character can't freely walk about certain places anymore due to reputation or he'll get shanked/arrested. I'm also okay with the villain being punished for his crimes. I've always felt like the best villains were ones that had cycles of slow rises to power, followed by a a terrible fall where they have to pick up the pieces and start again. I guess my biggest problem wasn't how to design a villain, but how to engage with other players as an antagonist. I don't intend on eviscerating someone in the middle of Gridania only to turn around and have a drink in the Canopy. I wanted my character to be much more discreet and ambiguous. However, if he spends all of his time keeping his ass covered and outwardly being 'good', how do I ever find the chance to let him be antagonistic towards anyone? ;A; It sounds like Sophia's right, I'd have to actually create a plot to develop a scenario where he'd be an antagonist.

Is there any lore info on heretics? Do they ALL go raving bonkers or only some of them? The guy in the MSQ seemed fairly lucid and only turned into a dragon when cornered.

You'll never get me, Captain Planet! :evil: (In all seriousness, that sounds awesome. :V)

I do definitely want a relatable villain as opposed to a twirly mustache villain that's a jerk for the sake of being evil, so that sounds nifty to me.

Anyone have advice on how to go about it? The character I have is a Duskwight elezen who is a Dravanian Heretic. He and his brother started off falsely accused before simply deciding to make the accusations of heresy a reality out of bitter spite and accepting the label. I know for the most part that a villain is really just the same as any other character, just with a different set of goals and motivations, but I still am having trouble sorting out how to engage people with a character who is inherently kind of antagonistic. Do I just... do the same thing I do with my not-villain characters? Am I over-thinking stuff?

Which is a perfect summary of Vaughn and Jaques, which I'm hoping you will still wish to draw when mine comes up =3 Best of both worlds? It will be all my dreams come trueee.

Aww, folks - I think Berrod was entirely joking due to his not-so-secret love for manly muscles. The joke just doesn't translate well over text and through language barriers. Everyone's free to like what they like. Be it beautiful, slender men or manly bara beefcakes.

Guuuh, the way the zombie is rendered is giving me the heebie-jeebies in a good way!

The Kindly Swordsman ------------ Cassius, you're up! Thank you for being patient. Khyros' took longer than expected. :V

I AM SO EXCITED. HGNGGHGHGHG Question: Should we post our character sheets here?

MY NEW ICON IS THE GREATEST. Thank you Hut and Jaques for the awesome surprise! Also sorrynotsorryYves.

Amazon killed off Webpay on the 14th. :c

Neeevermind. I was reading some Google Wallet reviews and a lot of what I was reading kind of made me really skittish. I'll have to think about it some more. :V Sorry for the derp, folks.

Wow, so I just looked at Google Wallet and it's all free so long as you don't use a credit card, so that is definitely an option on the table if folks already have that. I'm going to go set it up - that said, I will go with whatever folks are most comfortable with. :> Don't want to pressure people into getting something they don't have or aren't comfortable with getting. (Also, Paypal suuuuuuuuuucks >:C)

Kinda meh about it as well - was kinda hoping for another Ramuh-esque or Leviathan BG.

Nanamo Dance Party! + Raubahns Watching Over them. :> Impresario decided to join the dance line.

I unfortunately have plans that day, but I hope it goes well!

;_; It's okay. I really, really appreciated not having to pay the fee because it helped a lot. I just don't want to give Paypal any excuses to be a giant turd.

Hey folks! So I'm an idiot and I didn't realise some folks were using the 'gift' Paypal option so that I wouldn't have to pay any fees. While I LOVE you guys for doing that, and deeply appreciate it, I've also read that too many of those could attract the Evil Eye of Sauron Paypal's attention and my account could end up in jeopardy. Thus, from now on, feel free to send payment as either a Good or a Service, I believe the fee is the same either way, and I'll just have to deal with it. Thank you for being awesome. o/