lia yia Posted December 25, 2013 Share #1 Posted December 25, 2013 Does seems balumang has gotten more toxic lately I mean stuff like rp griefing, witch hunts/false accusations, and fc drama? Link to comment
LiadansWhisper Posted December 26, 2013 Share #2 Posted December 26, 2013 Um....what? :? Link to comment
Nebbs Posted December 26, 2013 Share #3 Posted December 26, 2013 Not seen more than previously? Link to comment
LandStander Posted December 26, 2013 Share #4 Posted December 26, 2013 Um....what? :? Lol!! But to answer your question, no. I have not seen this. Link to comment
Kieron Lohengrin Posted December 26, 2013 Share #5 Posted December 26, 2013 there's at least one definitely toxic individual in one of the older FCs on balmung; ironically it was the person who begged me into trying xiv in the first place. then another one around here a while back - from the same FC, even - claiming people didnt deserve help with getting relics. trying to derail a topic specifically about helping people get their relics, lol. those posts were deleted. otherwise, by and large, no. most people mind their own business; even votekick abuse is reportable when it happens, so long as you write your report well. Link to comment
ansemaru Posted December 26, 2013 Share #6 Posted December 26, 2013 I haven't noticed anything of the sort, though there is one rather abrasive individual who has pushed himself into prominence in the server's RP community. Of course, he is also someone who requested his own removal from these forums when people raised objections to his rude and puritanical demeanor, so he's not exactly around here anymore. I just see him on his main and alt in-game constantly advertising for a FC/LS and being generally rude about certain types of ERP. Though I guess there's also that intentionally antagonistic thread asking people to justify playing Midlander Hyur, created as a response to someone asking why so many people play Miqo'te? And the usual amount of generally well-meaning debate about ERP and Miqo'te lore, but that's hardly new, and it's mild as far as "drama" goes. Link to comment
Aysun Posted December 26, 2013 Share #7 Posted December 26, 2013 then another one around here a while back - from the same FC, even - claiming people didnt deserve help with getting relics. trying to derail a topic specifically about helping people get their relics, lol. those posts were deleted. Hmmm. Interesting interpretation. Link to comment
Knight Kat Posted December 26, 2013 Share #8 Posted December 26, 2013 I haven't noticed much of anything negative in the community. A few people may seem a bit upset about things I would personally consider minor, but that is their right, and I have no problems with them as long as they stay civil which most of them have. No place is perfect, but when negativity is rare, you could say that this is a pretty great community. Link to comment
Dat Oni Posted December 26, 2013 Share #9 Posted December 26, 2013 Does seems balumang has gotten more toxic lately I mean stuff like rp griefing, witch hunts/false accusations, and fc drama? wJPHu7tVlJQ Honestly, between the poorly spelled Thread title, the notion that Balmung is hostile (it's not), and the OP's posting history including threads like "Gilgamesh is very hostile!" and "HM fight griefing on Balmung!", I find it hard to take this seriously. Link to comment
Loki Posted December 26, 2013 Share #10 Posted December 26, 2013 I fail to understand how something can become "More" toxic when the game was recently re-released, isn't on it's 1st anniversary of re-release, and the fact that you joined the community in July 2013. To be more on topic; I've failed to notice any toxicity save for the few aforementioned beings spoken of about on the forums as of late. Link to comment
Faye Posted December 26, 2013 Share #11 Posted December 26, 2013 I've noticed less RP griefing, to be honest. As for drama, it's always happening somewhere. It recently affected my own FC, but I don't think that means it's anymore prevalent on the server than usual/it used to be. Link to comment
Fulcrum Posted December 26, 2013 Share #12 Posted December 26, 2013 A lot of Duty Finder griefing might not even be coming from our server, given the DF is cross server. My FC mates and I have run into several incidents of DF griefing, all of which have been reported, but only one of those incidents was from someone on the server (we tend to check afterwards). As far as RP griefing goes, I was utterly amazed by the fact that the one time it occurred, Merri sent a tell to the person's FC leader, and the person stopped and ran off almost immediately. That sort of thing hasn't worked in so long (I dare say it hasn't really worked since EQ2 and City of Heroes early days, in my experience), I was just stunned. Granted, it might not be as effective if the person is an officer in an FC (I've heard there's an RP griefer who is), but most FC leaders take their FC's reputation pretty seriously. Drama just happens, especially in RP communities. No offence to anyone, but drama is a natural part of being human, and RPers and theatre nerds (who aren't too different) tend to be a bit more dramatic. I personally feel there's less drama in this community as a whole than what I've seen elsewhere. Most people keep it behind closed doors, and if it does spill out, they do damage control fairly well - even if there's someone who blows something out of proportion. Either that or I exist in a state of blissful unawareness, and just manage to somehow avoid those threads and situations! It's happened before. >.> 1 Link to comment
Maril Posted December 26, 2013 Share #13 Posted December 26, 2013 There will always be a % of any given online community, related to gaming or not, that is toxic. Where there are roleplayers, there will be roleplay griefers - and despite the situations I have witnessed myself have been rather harsh and severe, they've not occurred nearly as much as my experience is with other and far older games. In reality, Balmung might just be one of the nicer servers around. Having an RP presence, even unofficially, just attracts more mature non-rp'ers to the servers because they have a general reputation of being nicer, less toxic servers. My opinion on these things, even if it is a bit blunt, has always been that if you can't stand talk about mature subjects (such as ERP), get offended over curse words and are unable to shrug off griefers entirely, then you probably should not be playing an MMORPG. Especially not one that has the T for Teen rating. 1 Link to comment
Nebbs Posted December 26, 2013 Share #14 Posted December 26, 2013 Not seen more than previously? Just to expand as people are adding more. Is their griefing of RP - Yes, I have seen some but not more than I have seen in other games. Worst for me was about 30min of a group standing over us messing things up. DF - mostly nice people but you have to accept you may be with people of a completely different gaming mindset. If you want to RP a dungeon form a group, maybe try the ne Party Finder for RP? Link to comment
Dogberry Posted December 26, 2013 Share #15 Posted December 26, 2013 Normally I wouldn't give a thread like this any thought, but I have noticed a rise in toxic behavior on Balmung lately. I've been playing around with Fraps lately, and I was able to get footage of something on our server that quite honestly shocked me to the core. Watch at your own risk: [video=youtube] 1 Link to comment
Whittledown Posted December 26, 2013 Share #16 Posted December 26, 2013 Dogberry, I am so sorry about that. It was a mistell and I thougt were cool. You didn't need to FRAPS it and put it up here. Link to comment
Kismet Posted December 26, 2013 Share #17 Posted December 26, 2013 Dogberry, that gave me a fantastic laugh. Thank you, lmao. XDDD Link to comment
Dogberry Posted December 26, 2013 Share #18 Posted December 26, 2013 Dogberry, I am so sorry about that. It was a mistell and I thougt were cool. You didn't need to FRAPS it and put it up here. I posted it because you should be ASHAMED. SHAME. SHAME ON YOU. SHAME ON YOUR CHOCOBO. Dogberry, that gave me a fantastic laugh. Thank you, lmao. XDDD I try! XOXOXO Link to comment
Dakki Posted December 26, 2013 Share #19 Posted December 26, 2013 I could... Imagine Hornet doing that. Aaaaaargh! GET. OUT. OF. MY. HEAD. :frustrated: But no, to answer the OP's question, "Balumang" (Balmung, I'll presume?) is not getting more toxic. I've only came across less than a handful of "toxic players" in a month of playing. Plus, we have cookies. Cookie? Link to comment
lia yia Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share #20 Posted December 26, 2013 I am as just wondering since there was a FC getting onto the minion fc. right now I almost fell that some members(including the GL) in this FC(not the minion one) are also trying to make a friend look very toxic and I don't recall this person being that toxic. Link to comment
ArmachiA Posted December 27, 2013 Share #21 Posted December 27, 2013 ^ I cannot parse that sentence at all. I'm guessing there's drama in your FC? That's going to happen. A lot of different personalities and some are going to clash. Try not to let it get you down. Link to comment
Dat Oni Posted December 27, 2013 Share #22 Posted December 27, 2013 I am as just wondering since there was a FC getting onto the minion fc. right now I almost fell that some members(including the GL) in this FC(not the minion one) are also trying to make a friend look very toxic and I don't recall this person being that toxic. Link to comment
Xenedra Posted December 27, 2013 Share #23 Posted December 27, 2013 I think in the case of ANY MMO, as time passes, many lasting friendships are formed, but on the flip-side, people discover players that they can't stand. I wouldn't say that I think this makes things more toxic, people just sort of learn who those are that they don't want to affiliate with. My suggestion here, is to do just that: avoid those you find you just CANNOT be friendly with. Otherwise, try and talk to them about things you might have heard, CALMLY! It could be that your issue is all just a misunderstanding at the core. It's also good to try and avoid believing everything you hear about those in the community. Take rumors with a grain of salt and form your own opinions of the people you interact with. All we can try and do it be fair, right? 1 Link to comment
Clover Posted December 27, 2013 Share #24 Posted December 27, 2013 I think in the case of ANY MMO, as time passes, many lasting friendships are formed, but on the flip-side, people discover players that they can't stand. I wouldn't say that I think this makes things more toxic, people just sort of learn who those are that they don't want to affiliate with. My suggestion here, is to do just that: avoid those you find you just CANNOT be friendly with. Otherwise, try and talk to them about things you might have heard, CALMLY! It could be that your issue is all just a misunderstanding at the core. It's also good to try and avoid believing everything you hear about those in the community. Take rumors with a grain of salt and form your own opinions of the people you interact with. All we can try and do it be fair, right? Pretty much this. One of my friends left my current FC ages ago because she had seen unpleasant conversations, but it's only recently that I've realized a few things myself. I only know one or two cases I dislike, though. Most people are either cool or completely unknown to me-- usually the latter. But yes, conflict will arise sooner or later in any community. Link to comment
Varus Posted December 27, 2013 Share #25 Posted December 27, 2013 To answer the title question: From my experience, the general community hasn't changed too much. The endgame community has been tense, now that more endgame content has been introduced. Everyone's racing to get content done ASAP, myself included. There's also growing frustration among the raiders who have yet to beat Titan Extreme. But I assume once the they get their fix of progression (and loot), the whole "l33tilvl9999exp'edpplzonry" attitude will start to drop like it did with 2.0's content. Someone brought up a great point about the frequent DF griefing and a few of Balmung's FC's have been noted for doing it. The one I remember being talked about is an endgame/social FC (won't namedrop). On that note: if said FC leaders/officers/member are reading this post, reign in your trolls. (If you need me to be more blunt, stop being asshats in CT.) So if you interact primarily with raiders or have been griefed/harshly criticized by raiders, I'd understand why you think the community has become more toxic. But it should die down in a month or so. The RPing community is much the same. We still get trolled once in awhile and will continue to get trolled. Let it roll off your shoulders and keep doing what you're doing. Link to comment
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