SM Nick Posted April 15, 2015 Share #26 Posted April 15, 2015 Normally in my stories, my characters are a 1, but for you guys, I have to handicap them. For RP with you guys, they are a 4. Well perhaps Niklas is a 3. Link to comment
Zelmanov Posted April 15, 2015 Share #27 Posted April 15, 2015 3.5 He's a master at Dragoon Arts but I'm not making him the most dragoony dragoon. I've had enough encounters in Verad's roll campaign to show that Orrin tears through NPC's....except for that one damn Miqo'te >_> Link to comment
Aaron Posted April 15, 2015 Share #28 Posted April 15, 2015 Normally in my stories, my characters are a 1, but for you guys, I have to handicap them. For RP with you guys, they are a 4. Well perhaps Niklas is a 3. How is he higher than Aaron when they both fought to the death and Aaron won? Nik even admitted it. Link to comment
GloryRhodes Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share #29 Posted April 15, 2015 To answer an assertion made in the locked thread (rather rudely, but hey, I don't like leaving things hanging like that), my issue with RP-PvP with a character like this is the obvious fact that having someone at a much lower level - say, around #4 or 5 - beat her up... just doesn't make a lot of sense most of the time. It's like (Fate Stay/Night reference) a regular mage beating up a Heroic Servant. That takes extraordinary circumstances and at least some luck, as well as the element of surprise, and how often does that happen? This isn't RL, after all, and the differences between those who have the power and those who don't are enormous, far greater than even the already-wide gulfs you see today between practitioners of martial arts and regular Joes. Even David vs Goliath doesn't accurately describe the kind of chasm we're seeing here. You can reference RL combat all you like, but no RL person can leap fifty yalms into the air, immediately change direction and rocket down into their target while simultaneously surviving the fall and taking no damage themselves. Or wield an enormous axe made entirely out of heavy metal and swing it with enough force to send a man flying 20 yalms behind them. So, you know, don't take it personally if I'd rather not gimp my OP character to accommodate characters at a lower power level. If I can't find an out, in the form of my character simply not taking the fight seriously or having motivation to throw it entirely, I just won't participate. And that's most of the time, really. I have a specific vision in mind for my character so I'm not going to sacrifice that for the sake of others. Just not how I play. Fortunately, 99% of RP involves no physical violence whatsoever, so it really never comes up anyways. That's a good thing, isn't it? Zyrusticae, thank you for your input, but I'm not sure why you're replying to assertions form another thread. It's a bit off topic. I don't feel like anyone needs to defend themselves for their choice of power level. 1 Link to comment
111 Posted April 15, 2015 Share #30 Posted April 15, 2015 To answer an assertion made in the locked thread (rather rudely, but hey, I don't like leaving things hanging like that), my issue with RP-PvP with a character like this is the obvious fact that having someone at a much lower level - say, around #4 or 5 - beat her up... just doesn't make a lot of sense most of the time. It's like (Fate Stay/Night reference) a regular mage beating up a Heroic Servant. That takes extraordinary circumstances and at least some luck, as well as the element of surprise, and how often does that happen? This isn't RL, after all, and the differences between those who have the power and those who don't are enormous, far greater than even the already-wide gulfs you see today between practitioners of martial arts and regular Joes. Even David vs Goliath doesn't accurately describe the kind of chasm we're seeing here. You can reference RL combat all you like, but no RL person can leap fifty yalms into the air, immediately change direction and rocket down into their target while simultaneously surviving the fall and taking no damage themselves. Or wield an enormous axe made entirely out of heavy metal and swing it with enough force to send a man flying 20 yalms behind them. So, you know, don't take it personally if I'd rather not gimp my OP character to accommodate characters at a lower power level. If I can't find an out, in the form of my character simply not taking the fight seriously or having motivation to throw it entirely, I just won't participate. And that's most of the time, really. I have a specific vision in mind for my character so I'm not going to sacrifice that for the sake of others. Just not how I play. Fortunately, 99% of RP involves no physical violence whatsoever, so it really never comes up anyways. That's a good thing, isn't it? Zyrusticae, thank you for your input, but I'm not sure why you're replying to assertions form another thread. It's a bit off topic. I don't feel like anyone needs to defend themselves for their choice of power level. Buff van Darkblade certainly doesn't. 1 Link to comment
Khadan Posted April 15, 2015 Share #31 Posted April 15, 2015 is the sheer amount of hyperbole necessary or was that part of the joke? I guess for Kayrren-kun... seven samurai-esque? I guess? It's hard to say. Link to comment
Zyrusticae Posted April 15, 2015 Share #32 Posted April 15, 2015 Zyrusticae, thank you for your input, but I'm not sure why you're replying to assertions form another thread. It's a bit off topic. I don't feel like anyone needs to defend themselves for their choice of power level. Well, it would certainly help if you didn't quote the entire thing. But I disagree. I think it is entirely relevant to the thread given that characters of differing power levels will regularly interact with one another in-game. Why else would you even care what other player characters' power levels are, outside of idle curiosity? This is besides the fact that I keep getting this undercurrent of animosity towards my choices because they seem so 'special snowflakey' (keeping in mind that she's really no more 'special' than the Derplander and his comrades), and I feel the need to address that. I appreciate that you feel I don't need to defend my choices, but not everyone on here feels that way. Link to comment
Dante Abigor Posted April 15, 2015 Share #33 Posted April 15, 2015 Eligor:Bounces somewhere between the lower 3's and upper 4's, but can rarely pop up to 2 tier if possession occurs, at a cost. Pheria: Somewhere in the mid 4 level, but typically wont get her hands dirty anyway. Link to comment
Uninstalldotexe Posted April 15, 2015 Share #34 Posted April 15, 2015 0. Jiji tempered a lizard and it brought forth a new era by accident. True starry. Link to comment
Faye Posted April 15, 2015 Share #36 Posted April 15, 2015 Faye is Goku. plz don't complain if she beats u in fight, you could just make ur character op, too. 1 Link to comment
Marisa Posted April 15, 2015 Share #37 Posted April 15, 2015 Marisa's power level would be almost nothing, although if Ruru is with her he can kill small critters while she sits back and worries Link to comment
Val Posted April 15, 2015 Share #38 Posted April 15, 2015 Faye is Goku. plz don't complain if she beats u in fight, you could just make ur character op, too. CTaPebuzzKQ 1 Link to comment
Faye Posted April 15, 2015 Share #39 Posted April 15, 2015 Faye is Goku. plz don't complain if she beats u in fight, you could just make ur character op, too. CTaPebuzzKQ ...goddammit. Link to comment
Harmonixer Posted April 15, 2015 Share #40 Posted April 15, 2015 Whoo! This thread/s are going well! My current character is a 7. Or a 0? He doesn't fight, at all. The only incident that involved him in combat was more of a favor to a friend, not canon if you will. He's certainly more 'odd' than dangerous. Most people end up seeing him -after- all the fights with the OP fellows. If there's anything left! I prefer to keep him that way, until Heavensward and I make a new character. Link to comment
111 Posted April 15, 2015 Share #41 Posted April 15, 2015 Faye is Goku. plz don't complain if she beats u in fight, you could just make ur character op, too. But which goku. Link to comment
Ryanti Posted April 15, 2015 Share #42 Posted April 15, 2015 I started out as a 6, now I'm bouncing around at 4's borderline. One of the many fufillments of watching your character grow and mature. Link to comment
Kellach Woods Posted April 15, 2015 Share #43 Posted April 15, 2015 Somewhere between 1-7 depending on what's needed I guess Link to comment
Faye Posted April 15, 2015 Share #44 Posted April 15, 2015 Faye is Goku. plz don't complain if she beats u in fight, you could just make ur character op, too. But which goku. [video=youtube] Is this an acceptable answer? 1 Link to comment
FreelanceWizard Posted April 16, 2015 Share #45 Posted April 16, 2015 L'yhta is somewhere between 3 and 4. She has a lot of talent and power, but is lacking in expertise. Given enough time to prepare and plan, she could potentially do something at the 2 level, but in general, she typically does her heroics in groups and takes advantage of the element of surprise and overwhelming magical force when alone. In a straight fight, a less powerful but more thoughtful or tactically experienced opponent would have a pretty good chance at taking her down. In her own mind, of course, she's a 1. :dodgy: It's a bit off-topic, but one's conception of power level also depends on how powerful one feels the world as a whole is. So, characters of widely different power levels could, in theory, end up at the same ranking because the danger presented by, say, a Magitek Reaper might be perceived differently by the players. Just some food for thought. Link to comment
ChewableMorphine Posted April 16, 2015 Share #46 Posted April 16, 2015 3 with the Magitek fists. Basement exterminator without em'. Link to comment
Zyrusticae Posted April 16, 2015 Share #47 Posted April 16, 2015 It's a bit off-topic, but one's conception of power level also depends on how powerful one feels the world as a whole is. So, characters of widely different power levels could, in theory, end up at the same ranking because the danger presented by, say, a Magitek Reaper might be perceived differently by the players. Just some food for thought. Hmmmm. But if, for example, the baseline were that 'everything in the wild is as dangerous as a Morbol', you'd still class all the characters at a much, MUCH higher general 'power level' than RL humans simply by virtue of being able to survive in that kind of environment. Right? Or, to put it another way... if the humans in that kind of world fought back against the monsters and actually came out on top, they would be at a much higher level than the ones who scurry around like rats trying not to get eaten. Even given wildly differing parameters, we can still use RL as a reference and understand that 'these guys are superhuman' even when the standard is that everything is at that same level. Link to comment
111 Posted April 16, 2015 Share #48 Posted April 16, 2015 It's a bit off-topic, but one's conception of power level also depends on how powerful one feels the world as a whole is. So, characters of widely different power levels could, in theory, end up at the same ranking because the danger presented by, say, a Magitek Reaper might be perceived differently by the players. Just some food for thought. Hmmmm. But if, for example, the baseline were that 'everything in the wild is as dangerous as a Morbol', you'd still class all the characters at a much, MUCH higher general 'power level' than RL humans simply by virtue of being able to survive in that kind of environment. Right? Or, to put it another way... if the humans in that kind of world fought back against the monsters and actually came out on top, they would be at a much higher level than the ones who scurry around like rats trying not to get eaten. Even given wildly differing parameters, we can still use RL as a reference and understand that 'these guys are superhuman' even when the standard is that everything is at that same level. omg stahp Link to comment
Chris Ganale Posted April 16, 2015 Share #49 Posted April 16, 2015 Why? It's valid consideration of the topic at hand. Link to comment
111 Posted April 16, 2015 Share #50 Posted April 16, 2015 Why? It's valid consideration of the topic at hand. It's the same line of thought that keeps getting threads locked. Ohhh welll. Link to comment
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