A New Primal Approaches

[Viola]

There are tales of her; a lalafell dressed in cloth of deepest blue. A fury so unrelenting that it made Ifrit's fires look tame. A resolve so strong that not even Titan's might could scratch it. Many who had seen her claimed her presence wasn't that of a "Warrior of Light", but a Primal in the tiny form of a Lalafell.

 

Those who tried to stop her stood little chance; monster, man. It didn't matter. Her vicious onslaught frightened even the Scions of the Seventh Dawn and the three city-states as a whole. 

 

Many claim it was the cries of anguish and despair of the countless lalafell who suffered under oppression are what summoned her. Others claim she is the incarnation of blood lust itself. While her creation is not certain, one thing is; those who are "graced" with Memenu Menu's presence shall be judged.

[Aoi Fukiku]

A lalafell with the heart and pride of a Highlander...

 

I'm scared!

 

SOMEONE HOLD ME D:

[Viola]

A lalafell with the heart and pride of a Highlander...

 

I'm scared!

 

SOMEONE HOLD ME D:

It's more like an instance of what if the Lalafell summoned a being into existence like Good King Moggle Mog, though in this case something with a fury of a thousand suns that dislikes elves.

[Gegenji]

While her creation is not certain, one thing is; those who are "graced" with Memenu Menu's presence shall be judged.

 

DID SOMEONE SAY JUDGE?

 

[Aoi Fukiku]

A lalafell with the heart and pride of a Highlander...

 

I'm scared!

 

SOMEONE HOLD ME D:

It's more like an instance of what if the Lalafell summoned a being into existence like Good King Moggle Mog, though in this case something with a fury of a thousand suns that dislikes elves.

Ah. I must ask though, are you Icly referring to your character as a Primal (example: she believes she is) or Icly playing out that she actually is one?

[Aoi Fukiku]

While her creation is not certain, one thing is; those who are "graced" with Memenu Menu's presence shall be judged.

 

DID SOMEONE SAY JUDGE?

 

*Rocket horses away*

[Viola]

A lalafell with the heart and pride of a Highlander...

 

I'm scared!

 

SOMEONE HOLD ME D:

It's more like an instance of what if the Lalafell summoned a being into existence like Good King Moggle Mog, though in this case something with a fury of a thousand suns that dislikes elves.

Ah. I must ask though, are you Icly referring to your character as a Primal (example: she believes she is) or Icly playing out that she actually is one?

 

Little of column A, a little of column B, unlike other Primals, she can't "Temper" others.

 

('-' )

[Aoi Fukiku]

A lalafell with the heart and pride of a Highlander...

 

I'm scared!

 

SOMEONE HOLD ME D:

It's more like an instance of what if the Lalafell summoned a being into existence like Good King Moggle Mog, though in this case something with a fury of a thousand suns that dislikes elves.

Ah. I must ask though, are you Icly referring to your character as a Primal (example: she believes she is) or Icly playing out that she actually is one?

 

Little of column A, a little of column B, unlike other Primals, she can't "Temper" others.

 

('-' )

Well, I welcome you to the site. Be warey that many may not accept that your character is a Primal and icly laugh at her. I know my character would play it off that she is perhaps under a temper herself or mental anguish to give her the idea that she is a primal and would probably try and study her.

 

( '-')

[Viola]

A lalafell with the heart and pride of a Highlander...

 

I'm scared!

 

SOMEONE HOLD ME D:

It's more like an instance of what if the Lalafell summoned a being into existence like Good King Moggle Mog, though in this case something with a fury of a thousand suns that dislikes elves.

Ah. I must ask though, are you Icly referring to your character as a Primal (example: she believes she is) or Icly playing out that she actually is one?

 

Little of column A, a little of column B, unlike other Primals, she can't "Temper" others.

 

('-' )

Well, I welcome you to the site. Be warey that many may not accept that your character is a Primal and icly laugh at her. I know my character would play it off that she is perhaps under a temper herself or mental anguish to give her the idea that she is a primal and would probably try and study her.

 

( '-')

 

for all intents and purposes, lore-wise, she [isn't] a primal in the way Leviathan, Ifrit, Titan, etc are. Though IIRC Good King Moggle Mog isn't considered a Primal either. With that said, it's a gimmick I kept because Memenu is a bit like Cirno (Touhou) with a meanstreak like Akuma (Streetfighter)

 

( 'o')~♪

[Dravus]

One thing to note is that regardless as to whether your character is or isn't a Primal you're going to find your role-play very limited simply because logically most characters will either believe it to be nonsense or try to put an end to the perceived threat through deadly force.

 

Still, welcome to the site - I'm sure your character will make for an interesting antagonist!

[Viola]

One thing to note is that regardless as to whether your character is or isn't a Primal you're going to find your role-play very limited simply because logically most characters will either believe it to be nonsense or try to put an end to the perceived threat through deadly force.

 

Still, welcome to the site - I'm sure your character will make for an interesting antagonist!

 

Thanks. I need to brush up about my in-world lore a bit, because I honestly can't remember if Moggle Mog is classified as a Primal or not in-universe.

 

I admit Memenu's bio is rather rough at the moment, but Lalafell characters are more or less completely safe around her.

[Warren Castille]

I'll bite (because of course I will).

 

Mogglemog is summoned into existence by magical creatures with completely reaffirmed belief in the fact that their deity existed in the past. Said moogles also drew the attention of Scions and others in the Shroud - it wasn't something that just sort of accidentally happened.

 

So, the questions I pose to you: Who summoned you, and how do you rationalize the existence of a proto-lalafell to which be summoned? How did you avoid the attention of the various factions that exist to stop this sort of thing?

 

These are the sort of questions you should be prepared to answer. It's a concept most people wouldn't attempt to tackle, and I worry that majority of your experiences will be justifying your existence instead of, you know, just roleplaying.

[Viola]

I'll bite (because of course I will).

 

Mogglemog is summoned into existence by magical creatures with completely reaffirmed belief in the fact that their deity existed in the past. Said moogles also drew the attention of Scions and others in the Shroud - it wasn't something that just sort of accidentally happened.

 

So, the questions I pose to you: Who summoned you, and how do you rationalize the existence of a proto-lalafell to which be summoned? How did you avoid the attention of the various factions that exist to stop this sort of thing?

 

These are the sort of questions you should be prepared to answer. It's a concept most people wouldn't attempt to tackle, and I worry that majority of your experiences will be justifying your existence instead of, you know, just roleplaying.

 

1. Who Summoned Memenu?

A group of Lalafell tortured, oppressed and suffering at the hands of the Garleans. This makes the most believable sense in both lore and in my opinon.

 

2. How do you rationalize the existence of a "Proto-Lalfell"?

Like Moggle Mog, she had to have existed in some form of either legends or text. I know very little about the Lambs of Dalamud, but if there's a cult for wanting another Dalamud to drop on Eorzea, I don't think it'd be farfetched for a cult that wants to wish for something good.

 

3. How did Memenu and the group itself avoid the attention of the various factions that exist to stop this sort of thing?

Let's face it, The Scions and the Garleans can't be everywhere at once. They can try, but realistically they cannot. With the increased hostility between the Garleans and the Eorzeans, the little group that summoned Memenu in the first place could've easily gotten past surveillance.

 

Plus, if the Scions had caught wind of it, would they stop it, knowing that she'd be both a violent but very powerful potential ally?

[Warren Castille]

First, I want to clarify I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just trying to give you something to cultivate.

 

1) Mogglemog is a named, specific legend. A group of tortured lalafell wouldn't be enough to conjure a primal-like figure, it would also take a buttload of crystals and more important, unified belief in your specific character. While there's no harm in saying that your character is the summoned incarnation of a legendary hero along the lines of Moggle or Shiva, there's still the logistics of the required bits. Hell, Gilgamesh accidentally summons a nonprimal while sitting on a large cache of crystals.

 

2) While there certainly could be a portion of people wanting to summon something good, it's also widely known that summoning is Bad with a capital B. The Ala Mhigans attempting to summon Rhalgr is a last-ditch desperation counterattack by young'uns and even then, everyone who isn't in on it says this is a horrible idea and the WoL is sent to stop it.

 

3) You're absolutely right that a small group could conceivably have skipped detection. I do believe, however, that the Scions would immediately send something like that back to the aether if they caught wind of it. Specifically, you mention you're slightly genocidal. That's not a force of good.

 

Edit for sportsmanship: I firmly believe everyone is entitled to telling whatever story they would choose to. I'm not telling you not to, or trying to dissuade you otherwise!

[Viola]

First, I want to clarify I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just trying to give you something to cultivate.

 

1) Mogglemog is a named, specific legend. A group of tortured lalafell wouldn't be enough to conjure a primal-like figure, it would also take a buttload of crystals and more important, unified belief in your specific character. While there's no harm in saying that your character is the summoned incarnation of a legendary hero along the lines of Moggle or Shiva, there's still the logistics of the required bits. Hell, Gilgamesh accidentally summons a nonprimal while sitting on a large cache of crystals.

 

2) While there certainly could be a portion of people wanting to summon something good, it's also widely known that summoning is Bad with a capital B. The Ala Mhigans attempt to summong Rhalgr as a last-ditch desperation counterattack and even then, everyone who isn't in on it says this is a horrible idea and the WoL is sent to stop it.

 

3) You're absolutely right that a small group could conceivably have skipped detection. I do believe, however, that the Scions would immediately send something like that back to the aether if they caught wind of it. Specifically, you mention you're slightly genocidal. That's not a force of good.

 

Edit for sportsmanship: I firmly believe everyone is entitled to telling whatever story they would choose to. I'm not telling you not to, or trying to dissuade you otherwise!

Oh, if it was argumentative, I would've asked. These are questions (damned good ones, mind you) that I haven't actually thought about until now, and it's really helping me flesh out a backstory that I haven't really thought of in the past.

 

1. That's why I brought up that she must have existed in some form in either legends, ancient texts or both. Who knows what countless tales were lost to the ages, only to be found by chance? A cult without a unified belief in the thing they're summoning probably wouldn't cause that thing to be summoned to begin with.

 

1b. Who knows how many shipments of crystals were "borrowed" from the Garleans, be it through a modified manifest here or there, or a "lost" box or two over a decent period of time. It's not exactly a secret as a whole that the Garlean military, as powerful as it is, doesn't have the best logistics in the world.

 

2. This was proven with Uncle Lou (Luisoix or however you pronunce his name) Invoking the power of the Twelve against Bahamut, people were legitimately afraid he might have summoned the Twelve during the battle of Cartenau. While, yes, summoning is bad, let it be known that Ramuh was not inherently bad as he wanted nothing to do like the other Primals.

 

3. Again, it's also highly probable that while dealing with the Garleans, they would've never known about the small group unless they paid very close attention to lalafell soldiers behaving a bit strange compared to the others (as in "patrolling" areas that normally hold no real interest to them)

 

3b. can't have something interesting without an extreme, can we? She dislikes elves, she won't kill 'em just because they annoy her. A list of her victims include Dragons, Garleans, Garlean machinery, Primals and for some reason a small dog.

[Sounsyy]

I think your character is an interesting approach, so I say go for it, but as others have said do prepare for a lot of backlash or scrutinizing of your character. As it is rather a difficult approach.

 

Warren posed some good questions to think about. I just wanted to bring one lore tidbit up in addition to all that. Primals, regardless of whether they are deities worshiped by a tribe (Ifrit, Ramuh, Leviathan, etc) or a reincarnation of some forgotten legend of times past (Bahamut, Shiva, King Moggle Mog, Phoenix, etc) a few things have to be in place for the Primal to persist.

 

1) Worship or fervent prayer to the deity or legend - which you've already established in your backstory.

 

2) Enough crystals to fully compose a corporeal form in the Physical Plane. The larger and more powerful the Primal, the more crystals are required. As you're a Lalafell, a smaller amount of crystals could likely create the form, however, a small amount of crystals will also ultimately make for a very weak primal.

 

3) Lastly, (and most tricky) because Primals do not belong on this Physical Plane, they must constantly absorb large amounts of aether from the Lifestream in order to persist. This is what I think Warren was getting at with the Scions of the Seventh Dawn. So long as your character remains summoned, she is effectively killing the planet. Which is why Primal summonings are dealt with swiftly by Scion, Garlean, and Grand Company alike.

 

Even though Ramuh was a "benevolent" Primal, he was still a danger to the planet so long as he existed in our Plane, which is why he had to go. This is the primary purpose of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn since their inception organization - The Circle of Knowing. So saying they overlooked a Primal summoning of any kind, even by a small faction, is a bit farfetched. Especially considering Iceheart's band of heretics could also be considered a small faction.

 

 

So just be prepared for that. If a character can get past their disbelief or their fear of tempering, the next logical course of action would be to try to kill your character.

[Viola]

I think your character is an interesting approach, so I say go for it, but as others have said do prepare for a lot of backlash or scrutinizing of your character. As it is rather a difficult approach.

 

Warren posed some good questions to think about. I just wanted to bring one lore tidbit up in addition to all that. Primals, regardless of whether they are deities worshiped by a tribe (Ifrit, Ramuh, Leviathan, etc) or a reincarnation of some forgotten legend of times past (Bahamut, Shiva, King Moggle Mog, Phoenix, etc) a few things have to be in place for the Primal to persist.

 

1) Worship or fervent prayer to the deity or legend - which you've already established in your backstory.

 

2) Enough crystals to fully compose a corporeal form in the Physical Plane. The larger and more powerful the Primal, the more crystals are required. As you're a Lalafell, a smaller amount of crystals could likely create the form, however, a small amount of crystals will also ultimately make for a very weak primal.

 

3) Lastly, (and most tricky) because Primals do not belong on this Physical Plane, they must constantly absorb large amounts of aether from the Lifestream in order to persist. This is what I think Warren was getting at with the Scions of the Seventh Dawn. So long as your character remains summoned, they are effectively killing the planet. Which is why Primal summonings are dealt with swiftly by Scion, Garlean, and Grand Company alike.

 

Even though Ramuh was a "benevolent" Primal, he was still a danger to the planet so long as he existed in our Plane, which is why he had to go. This is the primary purpose of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn since their inception organization - The Circle of Knowing. So saying they overlooked a Primal summoning of any kind, even by a small faction, is a bit farfetched. Especially considering Iceheart's band of heretics could also be considered a small faction.

 

 

So just be prepared for that. If a character can get past their disbelief or their fear of tempering, the next logical course of action would be to try to kill your character.

 

to answer number 3; Iceheart acted as the catalyst for Shiva. With that said, upon Shiva's "death", Iceheart remained. I wonder what happened if the fervant prayer was used on one who was willing to sacrifice his or her "soul" for the Primal to use as a corporeal body.

 

3b) Remember, Enkidu was also a Primal (I...Think, I forgot. You can completely correct me if I'm wrong) in the Hildebrand scenarios and he(she?) didn't need crystals. ...To my knoweldge.

 

Also; Greg's "final" form. Also, is Diabolos considered a Primal in Eorzean lore?

 

3c) As stated, Memenu's unique in that she cannot Temper others, so her "sphere" of influence will only grow by those who truly wish to believe in her. (I primarily chose to make this ability impossible as to not have any sort of "power" abuse. tldr; ability removed because generally it's OP.).

 

3d) Yes, killing Memenu can pose a very real concern. Her being in a lalafell form is also what she is described of in legends and ancient texts.

[Aduu Avagnar]

I think your character is an interesting approach, so I say go for it, but as others have said do prepare for a lot of backlash or scrutinizing of your character. As it is rather a difficult approach.

 

Warren posed some good questions to think about. I just wanted to bring one lore tidbit up in addition to all that. Primals, regardless of whether they are deities worshiped by a tribe (Ifrit, Ramuh, Leviathan, etc) or a reincarnation of some forgotten legend of times past (Bahamut, Shiva, King Moggle Mog, Phoenix, etc) a few things have to be in place for the Primal to persist.

 

1) Worship or fervent prayer to the deity or legend - which you've already established in your backstory.

 

2) Enough crystals to fully compose a corporeal form in the Physical Plane. The larger and more powerful the Primal, the more crystals are required. As you're a Lalafell, a smaller amount of crystals could likely create the form, however, a small amount of crystals will also ultimately make for a very weak primal.

 

3) Lastly, (and most tricky) because Primals do not belong on this Physical Plane, they must constantly absorb large amounts of aether from the Lifestream in order to persist. This is what I think Warren was getting at with the Scions of the Seventh Dawn. So long as your character remains summoned, they are effectively killing the planet. Which is why Primal summonings are dealt with swiftly by Scion, Garlean, and Grand Company alike.

 

Even though Ramuh was a "benevolent" Primal, he was still a danger to the planet so long as he existed in our Plane, which is why he had to go. This is the primary purpose of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn since their inception organization - The Circle of Knowing. So saying they overlooked a Primal summoning of any kind, even by a small faction, is a bit farfetched. Especially considering Iceheart's band of heretics could also be considered a small faction.

 

 

So just be prepared for that. If a character can get past their disbelief or their fear of tempering, the next logical course of action would be to try to kill your character.

 

to answer number 3; Iceheart acted as the catalyst for Shiva. With that said, upon Shiva's "death", Iceheart remained. I wonder what happened if the fervant prayer was used on one who was willing to sacrifice his or her "soul" for the Primal to use as a corporeal body.

 

3b) Remember, Enkidu was also a Primal (I...Think, I forgot. You can completely correct me if I'm wrong) in the Hildebrand scenarios and he(she?) didn't need crystals. ...To my knoweldge.

 

Also; Greg's "final" form. Also, is Diabolos considered a Primal in Eorzean lore?

 

3c) As stated, Memenu's unique in that she cannot Temper others, so her "sphere" of influence will only grow by those who truly wish to believe in her. (I primarily chose to make this ability impossible as to not have any sort of "power" abuse. tldr; ability removed because generally it's OP.).

 

3d) Yes, killing Memenu can pose a very real concern. Her being in a lalafell form is also what she is described of in legends and ancient texts.

Gilgamesh was leaning on a crate of Crystals when he summoned Enkidu, the crystals then promptly vanished.

 

Diabolos is a Voidsent, not a Primal.

[Warren Castille]

Additionally, Shiva was only Shiva for a few moments, and then that power was lost. It's true she does open up an interesting idea for superforms, basically, but access to her Primal-granted powers was shortlived at best, and this is even with (presumably) the entire heretic faction and part of the dravanians (again, presumably) believing in her.

[Viola]

Gilgamesh was leaning on a crate of Crystals when he summoned Enkidu, the crystals then promptly vanished.

 

Diabolos is a Voidsent, not a Primal.

 

Well, we know Bahamut was trapped in a moon,

 

Odin is actually his sword

 

And thank you for correcting me.

 

Additionally, Shiva was only Shiva for a few moments, and then that power was lost. It's true she does open up an interesting idea for superforms, basically, but access to her Primal-granted powers was shortlived at best, and this is even with (presumably) the entire heretic faction and part of the dravanians (again, presumably) believing in her.

 

Which opens up the issue of outside of being an angry midget, what is Memenu's true form?

[Gegenji]

Which opens up the issue of outside of being an angry midget, what is Memenu's true form?

A smaller, angrier midget.

[Sounsyy]

3b) Remember, Enkidu was also a Primal (I...Think, I forgot. You can completely correct me if I'm wrong) in the Hildebrand scenarios and he(she?) didn't need crystals. ...To my knoweldge.

 

Also; Greg's "final" form. Also, is Diabolos considered a Primal in Eorzean lore?

 

Enkidu is another example of a "Primal" that was a reincarnation of a real individual. Like Moggle Mog or Shiva. Enkidu was Gilgamesh's companion, but that companion was lost, so the memory of that companion reincarnated "Enkidu" as a Primal when Gilgamesh sat on a large stack of crystal-carrying crates and wished his friend would return to him. So, yep, crystals were used in the making of this Primal. ^^

 

And Diabolos is not a Primal in XIV's lore. He's a Voidsent King summoned during the War of the Magi and imprisoned by the Magi of Amdapor.

 

 

3c) As stated, Memenu's unique in that she cannot Temper others, so her "sphere" of influence will only grow by those who truly wish to believe in her. (I primarily chose to make this ability impossible as to not have any sort of "power" abuse. tldr; ability removed because generally it's OP.).

 

Tempering is completely purposeful on the Primal's part. They have to actively want to Temper someone, it doesn't just happen on its own. Ifrit scorches his in fire. Leviathan drowns them. Bahamut tempers the soul of the dying before they depart for Thal's realm. Someone has to pick up Zantetsuken for it to temper them. Tempering aside though, the real danger of a Primal is their constant aether drain on the world - which was the concern in bullet #3.

 

 

But I have to ask, if your character is a Primal... but doesn't Temper, and it sounds like you're trying to work around the constant aether drain, and isn't actively using their limited lifespan to flatten Garleans (as that's the purpose she was summoned for right?) what is the um point of having her being a Primal? I mean, being a Primal is an interesting concept to play with, but you've essentially eliminated half of what makes a Primal a Primal in order to mingle in day-in-the-life rp and so didn't really leave her with much... Primal-ness? I don't think the tortured Lalafells who summoned her to kill Garleans would be very pleased she's down at the tavern in Ul'dah engaging in idle conversation?

 

I mean if the justification behind her being a Primal is just because you really wanna RP being a Primal, go for it - but I'd say really go all out and have her be a full fledged primal. Tempering, city-flattening power, constant aether drain, etc. I mean, you say you don't wanna be OP, but that's kinda... the whole point of a Primal? If they weren't OP no one would bother summoning them.

[Viola]

Which opens up the issue of outside of being an angry midget, what is Memenu's true form?

A smaller, angrier midget.

I legit giggled. 7/10 laugh, 8/10 because lasting smile.

 

3b) Remember, Enkidu was also a Primal (I...Think, I forgot. You can completely correct me if I'm wrong) in the Hildebrand scenarios and he(she?) didn't need crystals. ...To my knoweldge.

 

Also; Greg's "final" form. Also, is Diabolos considered a Primal in Eorzean lore?

 

Enkidu is another example of a "Primal" that was a reincarnation of a real individual. Like Moggle Mog or Shiva. Enkidu was Gilgamesh's companion, but that companion was lost, so the memory of that companion reincarnated "Enkidu" as a Primal when Gilgamesh sat on a large stack of crystal-carrying crates and wished his friend would return to him. So, yep, crystals were used in the making of this Primal. ^^

 

And Diabolos is not a Primal in XIV's lore. He's a Voidsent King summoned during the War of the Magi and imprisoned by the Magi of Amdapor.

 

 

3c) As stated, Memenu's unique in that she cannot Temper others, so her "sphere" of influence will only grow by those who truly wish to believe in her. (I primarily chose to make this ability impossible as to not have any sort of "power" abuse. tldr; ability removed because generally it's OP.).

 

Tempering is completely purposeful on the Primal's part. They have to actively want to Temper someone, it doesn't just happen on its own. Ifrit scorches his in fire. Leviathan drowns them. Bahamut tempers the soul of the dying before they depart for Thal's realm. Someone has to pick up Zantetsuken for it to temper them. Tempering aside though, the real danger of a Primal is their constant aether drain on the world - which was the concern in bullet #3.

 

 

But I have to ask, if your character is a Primal... but doesn't Temper, and it sounds like you're trying to work around the constant aether drain, and isn't actively using their limited lifespan to flatten Garleans (as that's the purpose she was summoned for right?) what is the um point of having her being a Primal? I mean, being a Primal is an interesting concept to play with, but you've essentially eliminated half of what makes a Primal a Primal in order to mingle in day-in-the-life rp and so didn't really leave her with much... Primal-ness? I don't think the tortured Lalafells who summoned her to kill Garleans would be very pleased she's down at the tavern in Ul'dah engaging in idle conversation?

 

I mean if the justification behind her being a Primal is just because you really wanna RP being a Primal, go for it - but I'd say really go all out and have her be a full fledged primal. Tempering, city-flattening power, constant aether drain, etc. I mean, you say you don't wanna be OP, but that's kinda... the whole point of a Primal? If they weren't OP no one would bother summoning them.

 

Tempering itself is more a balance concern than an actual lore concern. Removing the ability just makes it easier to balance Memenu as a character. Just in case an RP battle ever comes up. "Removing the rattle from the baby" so to speak.

 

In example; Memenu is weakened enough to be finished off, oh look, she just tempered half the damn city and now damn near close to full power. Again. It's boring, it's annoying, and it's more overpowered than anything else.

 

The group summoned her to help them against not only their oppressors, but the oppressors of other Lalafell. She can facepunch Garlean after Garlean, but her corporeal form still needs rest. Even more so if her body is a vessel to contain her essence. (From a lore standpoint, I don't know if this is even possible. It's neither hinted nor denied. However, if a focus can be used to amplify the power of a Primal, I don't see it being an issue for one to sacrifice their very soul to use their body as a vessel for its power.)

 

I don't know how Bahamut works other than being an Elder Primal, I haven't gotten through second coil, so I know very little about him(her? It?). I'd also rather ask questions than assume things that are wrong.

 

Her being in the form that she is allows for open-endedness in that she's not a forced antagonist. She can always end up helping the Scions just because they have a common ground. Sure the Scions will probably be keeping a very close eye on what very much a loose cannon. 

 

Well, the thing is, since Moggle Mog isn't a Primal, neither is she. However; I don't see any real harm letting herself believe she is. -shrugs-

 

The points you bring up are excellent questions; questions I wouldn't have thought of myself, but are very valuable to think within the lore limits of both the game and the lore of the world itself.

[Caspar]

I think it's funny your character's name is two syllables away from another who claimed to be a Primal...

 

Well, in any case, welcome. Nice to see another Lala who isn't a helpless merchant or magical waif, even if your approach is... unusual, to say the least.

[Viola]

I think it's funny your character's name is two syllables away from another who claimed to be a Primal...

...Really?

 

Has to be a coincidence. The name is also a result of the name generator squeenix released back before P4 beta.

 

Either way, thank you for for dropping into the thread.