Yunas13 Posted August 29, 2015 Share #1 Posted August 29, 2015 Is time travel possible? I had an idea but I'm not sure if it is even allowed. >< I'm having so many ideas but I think I'm getting something. The Sailor Moon connection is still a suggestion but I'm trying to go another route. A chance encounter sends my main character back 2 years to the beginning of the FFXIV MSQ. She meets my original character who is her idol (like Sailor Moon's idol is Sailor V/Venus and she gets to meet her and be her best friend ) but in her future, her idol is missing and there are only stories of her legacy. What do you guys think? It intrigues me and would love to carry it through. *Raises Flame Shield* Ok, I'm ready. Let me know your thought. Link to comment
LiadansWhisper Posted August 29, 2015 Share #2 Posted August 29, 2015 Well, the Warrior of Light travelled 5 years into the future, so I believe that technically it's possible. Is there a reason why you want to have this particular character arc of your current character meeting your former character? Link to comment
Yunas13 Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted August 29, 2015 The reason is that my first character (she is my oldest and first character) is at Idyllshire and is making her way to 60. I want to somehow connect them and so far it is the best I've got so far. I wish I knew more about the Au Ra or lore of FFXIV. I didn't play XIV 1.0, I started in 2.0. I have been looking at the Lore section. I really want to make a good story/RP but I don't know the 1.0 storyline. I've seen the different opening cinematics for 1.0 but nothing else. Link to comment
Eses Fafa Posted August 29, 2015 Share #4 Posted August 29, 2015 You're gonna need a bigger shield.. In all honesty, it does sound like a fun idea, just one best not spread around as a story to the public community. If I was forced to shut down every single strange possibility within FFXIV, bringing everyone I see down to the mundane, I'd be QUITE a lonely person. Link to comment
FreelanceWizard Posted August 29, 2015 Share #5 Posted August 29, 2015 As the game has explored, almost anything is possible with enough will and aether. Time travel has happened recently, as LiadansWhisper notes -- at the end of 1.x. Whether that was just the singular Warrior of Light or a collection of adventurers in the wrong place at the wrong time depends on your point of view, but in general, I've found that people are pretty accepting about being time-warped by the anomaly at Carteneau (not to be confused with the hot new band making the rounds, Anomaly at Carteneau). With that said, though, time travel outside of that event is a pretty big stretch for RP, and a lot of characters will be skeptical of the claim. I would also expect a fair bit of OOC pushback. On that basis, the question I'd ask is, "what does this bring to the table narratively that a simpler approach wouldn't address?" Since you control both characters, you can easily write a chance meeting into their backstories. From that chance meeting, which your first character thought nothing of, your second character takes away a dream and a drive to be like the Hero they met once. In essence, your second character is always chasing after your first one, trying to emulate them and follow in their footsteps. If that gets the effect you want, then does the time travel add enough more to your story to justify the bigger ask it makes of your fellow players to accept it? 1 Link to comment
Nebbs Posted August 29, 2015 Share #6 Posted August 29, 2015 Nebula has already time travelled, gone to alternate realities and switched places with her ancestors (some of the awesome and bizarre RP done with Ilwe'ran). This was a long and involved amount of RP leading up to, during and afterwards. What you can do is only bound by your imagination. What others will accept is bound by their tolerance. What I would say, and this applies to anything "special", don't let this be the main thing that defines who your character is. Make your RP about your character as a person and their struggles in the situations they are in, play Dave the mercenary who happened to get caught up in time travel not the Time Traveller called Dave. 1 Link to comment
Sylentmana Posted September 3, 2015 Share #7 Posted September 3, 2015 I know time travel in you character's story certainly wouldn't bother me, but if you told any of my characters that you time traveled, they would likely recommend you stop eating random mushrooms you find in the woods. Link to comment
Nebbs Posted September 3, 2015 Share #8 Posted September 3, 2015 I know time travel in you character's story certainly wouldn't bother me, but if you told any of my characters that you time traveled, they would likely recommend you stop eating random mushrooms you find in the woods. What! I never would do that.. well not many time.. well I can quit any time I want! *licks a frog to ease her withdrawal* She never mentions it.. people would think she is even more crazy than she is. 1 Link to comment
Sig Posted September 3, 2015 Share #9 Posted September 3, 2015 I object on the record to any objections regarding time-traveling that fall short of gripping a third-party character by the arm and dragging them through time. Time travel is extreme but plausible. Not my cup of IC tea, however. IC, Sigurd would simply think your character was insane and use it as an excuse to make (presumably) unwanted advances. The joys of roleplay. Link to comment
ZoktaiKhor Posted September 3, 2015 Share #10 Posted September 3, 2015 Your notes, are you allaghan?, how much aether was used. what form of magic was neccasary? *My character baraging the traveler with questions* Link to comment
Mia Moui Posted September 22, 2015 Share #11 Posted September 22, 2015 Don't mean to necro but I didn't want to make a new post on a similar subject. I've had my character time-warped at the time of the Calamity to the present day. There's been no explanation of this. She was presumed dead along with thousands of others. My character isn't a Warrior of Light as there can be only one but I feel like Louisoix's power could have unintended consequences. I've heard that this is actually the case from spoilers but I'm only concerned in the time-travel. She is of two minds about her experience: either she "skipped" the last five years somehow, or she cannot remember them and no one else seems to remember her existing during those years. Eorzea is a big place though, so she's leaning towards the notion that her own memory is bad and she just hasn't met anyone who knew her. So I could go either way with regards to time travel. Of course, having her jump forward in time tends to lead credence to the idea that she is somehow special or chosen. But I think it's more likely that it was just random, like lightning. I certainly don't play her as though she were chosen or special. Until the Calamity, she just wanted to have a family and a garden. Link to comment
Hammersmith Posted September 22, 2015 Share #12 Posted September 22, 2015 Don't mean to necro but I didn't want to make a new post on a similar subject. I've had my character time-warped at the time of the Calamity to the present day. There's been no explanation of this. She was presumed dead along with thousands of others. My character isn't a Warrior of Light as there can be only one but I feel like Louisoix's power could have unintended consequences. I've heard that this is actually the case from spoilers but I'm only concerned in the time-travel. She is of two minds about her experience: either she "skipped" the last five years somehow, or she cannot remember them and no one else seems to remember her existing during those years. Eorzea is a big place though, so she's leaning towards the notion that her own memory is bad and she just hasn't met anyone who knew her. So I could go either way with regards to time travel. Of course, having her jump forward in time tends to lead credence to the idea that she is somehow special or chosen. But I think it's more likely that it was just random, like lightning. I certainly don't play her as though she were chosen or special. Until the Calamity, she just wanted to have a family and a garden. The one True case of Time-warp from that is if a legacy char comes over from 1.0 to 2.0. I think even the cutscenes reflect that, as well as the slow "Remembering" everyone gets through the MSQ as it hits them that Hey! You're the Warrior of Light! You did That Thing! Which shows it's possible, but also ascribes to Squeenix's habit of "Chosen One" storytelling. Aether messes things up though. There's no real reason you couldn't wake up in the middle of Cartineu 5 years later and have no idea what just happened. There could be a LOT of reasons, from Time Shenanigans, to Void Portals, to Dues Ex Realm Rebornia at Cartineau. It's not bending much to do such, as long as you weave the reason into the char and use it to give drive to some action. Link to comment
LiadansWhisper Posted September 22, 2015 Share #13 Posted September 22, 2015 While there is only one Warrior of Light, Louisoix appears to send more than just the Derplander to the future. In fact, it seems like he sends most, if not all, the adventurers fighting to protect him out of harms way. Link to comment
Kage Posted September 22, 2015 Share #14 Posted September 22, 2015 While there is only one Warrior of Light, Louisoix appears to send more than just the Derplander to the future. In fact, it seems like he sends most, if not all, the adventurers fighting to protect him out of harms way. I might be under the wrong impression that while not -the- Warrior of light, there were other chosen and other echo-users. Those were possibly sent forward etc. Link to comment
Steel Wolf Posted September 22, 2015 Share #15 Posted September 22, 2015 I always assumed that those thrust forward in time were all Adventurers who maybe were the Warrior of Light but who knows, so Louisoix just netted the lot to be safe. In the cutscenes, the Derplander I understood to be the Big Shiny in the narrative. Link to comment
Warren Castille Posted September 22, 2015 Share #16 Posted September 22, 2015 I always assumed that those thrust forward in time were all Adventurers who maybe were the Warrior of Light but who knows, so Louisoix just netted the lot to be safe. In the cutscenes, the Derplander I understood to be the Big Shiny in the narrative. Warrior of Light has two meanings in XIV: The Warriors of Light (plural) were the bands of adventurers who fought at Carteneau, and were sent forward to ARR. The Warrior of Light (singular) is The Hero in ARR. Midlander is the default Warrior of Light for ARR, unless you're subsuming him, at which point I imagine he's just another of the Warriors of Light. THIS IS SO SIMPLE AND NOT CONFUSING AT ALL. Link to comment
Sounsyy Posted September 22, 2015 Share #17 Posted September 22, 2015 The group of Adventurers who were thrust into Louisoix's spell were called The Twelvesblades and were a group under contract from the Archons to protect Louisoix while he summoned the power of the Twelve to protect Eorzea. These were the only people canonically transported in the Thaliak time-spell. Everyone else was left to die or flee the battle. After the Twelvesblades entered the rift through time, the common people of Eorzea who knew of this group of Adventurers forgot who they were, because Hydaelyn reasons. Whenever they tried to recall their names or faces, they simply saw a silhouetted figure bathed in light. This is what brought about the term: "Warriors of Light," again, referring to these Twelvesblades who ignored the order to retreat, facing death to protect Louisoix. When the Twelvesblade(s) returned from the rift five years later, no one remembered who they were, but their following deeds reminded the people of the Warriors of Light of five years past. Hence why the Main Character starts getting called a Warrior of Light. The name sticks, and through the storyline and some more research with the Scions of the Seventh Dawn it is discovered that this person has a deep connection with Hydaelyn - being Her Chosen. Now the dubbed "the Warrior of Light" slowly becomes a reference to Hydaelyn Light, and less so the Light of the forgotten warriors on Carteneau. So there is only a handful of THE "Warriors of Light," in the Hydaelyn's Chosen sense of the word. There are a few, but multiple warriors of light, referring to the Twelvesblades of Carteneau. Hope that clears up some confusion! EDIT: Here's some additional back up from Fernehalwes, after it was revealed that Ysayle was also a Warrior of Light, in the Hydaelyn's Chosen sense of the word. Hydaelyn has many chosen, just none that are as publicly active as THE Warrior of Light, the player character. Q: In one of the early quests, you see other people in the aetherial realm flying around the Mothercrystal. Who are they? Other adventurers? MCKF: Yeah, the Mothercrystal talks to many people. You’re the Warrior of Light, but she has to have other options. Not everyone is Warrior of Light material and there are lots of other things going on. 1 Link to comment
Manari Posted September 22, 2015 Share #18 Posted September 22, 2015 The group of Adventurers who were thrust into Louisoix's spell were called The Twelvesblades and were a group under contract from the Archons to protect Louisoix while he summoned the power of the Twelve to protect Eorzea. These were the only people canonically transported in the Thaliak time-spell. Everyone else was left to die or flee the battle. After the Twelvesblades entered the rift through time, the common people of Eorzea who knew of this group of Adventurers forgot who they were, because Hydaelyn reasons. Whenever they tried to recall their names or faces, they simply saw a silhouetted figure bathed in light. This is what brought about the term: "Warriors of Light," again, referring to these Twelvesblades who ignored the order to retreat, facing death to protect Louisoix. When the Twelvesblade(s) returned from the rift five years later, no one remembered who they were, but their following deeds reminded the people of the Warriors of Light of five years past. Hence why the Main Character starts getting called the Warrior of Light. The name sticks, and through the storyline and some more research with the Scions of the Seventh Dawn it is discovered that this person has a deep connection with Hydaelyn - being Her Chosen. Now the dubbed "Warrior of Light" slowly becomes a reference to Hydaelyn Light, and less so the Light of the forgotten warriors on Carteneau. So there is only one "Warrior of Light," in the Hydaelyn's Chosen sense of the word. There are a few, but multiple warriors of light, referring to the Twelvesblades of Carteneau. Hope that clears up some confusion! That's not the only way the story can go, however. If you played 1.0 and reached a certain point in the 1.0 storyline, your character is teleported through time. When you logged into FFXIV 2.0 for the very first time, your character appears from a portal near whatever city you set your starting class as during the 1-time character change they gave 1.0 players before beta. While you play through the storyline, no one remembers you except for Minfilia because she also has the Echo. But after you complete the original 2.0 MSQ, (defeating Ultima Weapon and Gaius) then the haze over everyone's eyes is lifted and everyone, including all the City State leaders and Cid then remember you and mention that this is the 2nd time you've saved Eorzea. So your character IS a warrior of light if you played 1.0 and were at the Battle of Carteneau in the 2.0 storyline canon. Link to comment
Candor Posted September 22, 2015 Share #19 Posted September 22, 2015 Is time travel possible? I had an idea but I'm not sure if it is even allowed. It's not about what you do, but how you do it. Unless you join an FC with explicit rules regarding character concepts, you can literally do whatever you want. The RP community is unmoderated. There is no one to tell you what is and isn't permitted. And anyone who says otherwise is confused. So, don't try to decide if you can do this or not. Just figure out how you can do it well. Link to comment
Hammersmith Posted September 22, 2015 Share #20 Posted September 22, 2015 Is time travel possible? I had an idea but I'm not sure if it is even allowed. It's not about what you do, but how you do it. Unless you join an FC with explicit rules regarding character concepts, you can literally do whatever you want. The RP community is unmoderated. There is no one to tell you what is and isn't permitted. And anyone who says otherwise is confused. So, don't try to decide if you can do this or not. Just figure out how you can do it well. This is a good general rule! However when you ask a forum for plausibility, it means you're looking for lore reasoning, people are going to weigh in with what the lore shows. Thankfully there's plenty of reasons, as show, that this could happen, without bending or ignoring established stuff in the game (Though you are certainly free to do so if you so wish!) Link to comment
Sounsyy Posted September 22, 2015 Share #21 Posted September 22, 2015 That's not the only way the story can go, however. If you played 1.0 and reached a certain point in the 1.0 storyline, your character is teleported through time. When you logged into FFXIV 2.0 for the very first time, your character appears from a portal near whatever city you set your starting class as during the 1-time character change they gave 1.0 players before beta. Well, yes, any player who completed the 1.0 quest "United We Stand" will get the Legacy teleport intro, according to Camate, however, just because you get the legacy cutscenes doesn't necessarily mean they all make sense from a narrative/lore perspective. For instance, players who fulfilled the special cutscene requirements will get a special conversation with Cid on their way to fight Garuda in which Cid remembers taking them on the airship to face Nael van Darnus in the 1.0 quest "To Kill a Raven," but if you never defeated Nael van Darnus in 1.0, you never actually had that conversation with Cid. Furthermore, it's through the "Living on a Legend" quest that the Main Character actually goes under oath to protect Louisoix on Carteneau and becomes one of the Twelvesblades. So, unless you completed that quest, your character canonically has no reason to be by Louisoix's side at the time of the Thaliak rift. Everyone else was ordered to retreat well before this event. If we're being technical, my 1.0 alt at the time was sitting in Ul'dah when the servers went down. She still got teleported time-rift style when she logged into 2.0. Whereas my main who was actively fighting Garleans during the epic-server-crash-Calamity-2012 was also teleported. So you can't really go on legacy status alone. Sure, you can of course say you were teleported by Louisoix's spell, my previous post was just very simply stating the lore/story reason as to why you were teleported - which is, you were under contract with the Archons to protect Louisioix during the final moments and thus were a member of the Twelvesblades, now known as the forgotten warriors of light. Link to comment
Mia Moui Posted September 23, 2015 Share #22 Posted September 23, 2015 ... Aether messes things up though. There's no real reason you couldn't wake up in the middle of Cartineu 5 years later and have no idea what just happened. There could be a LOT of reasons, from Time Shenanigans, to Void Portals, to Dues Ex Realm Rebornia at Cartineau. It's not bending much to do such, as long as you weave the reason into the char and use it to give drive to some action. I like this. My character's backstory takes place at the same time as Cartineau but that's just a coincidence. The moon exploding freaked out her attackers allowing her and her sisters to escape. But the very next moment, she wakes up slung over the shoulder of an unnamed adventurer and it's five years later. I honestly don't have the best reasons for skipping time, except that the game starts five years after the Calamity and I want her to be 20 instead of 25. I'm just shy of 3 weeks in with the character so I might go ahead and retcon what I've written down to remove the time skip. If I don't have a narrative besides "gee whiz that's weird," it's not worth including. Link to comment
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