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Updated: 5/18/17

 

This thread is being made for the discussion of an alternative RP server now that Balmung is under indefinite lock down. This is a thread for deciding on which server should be deemed the RP server.

 

If you wish to discuss the Balmung server lock down and it's repercussions go to the megathread: http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=19397

 

We are here specifically to spread awareness of the RP communities in our smaller servers and the health of said servers.

 

Please do not bring in server vs server drama. I would like us to speak on the merits of what the communities have to offer as I will plainly admit I am ignorant to the going ons of our smaller RP groups. The RP-C has been focused specifically on Balmung for a long time and the spotlight should be shown to the smaller servers.

 

So! Community leaders! Free Company Leaders! Let's hear what your server is doing and how it's doing!

 

This post will be updated as more feedback is provided to create an easy index for players.

 

EDIT:

 

Please, the topic of what should have been done and debating the closure of Balmung should be taken to that thread. I do not want that conversation spilling over here. We are here to specifically discuss and promote the various alternate server communities, not debate over if such servers should exist.

 

Maril has given us a quick post of the scope of the many servers and companies on the smaller servers!

 

Presently I know there are RP communities on;

Jenova 

Coeurl 

Lamia 

Mateus

Cerberus 

Cactuar 

Ultros 

Leviathan 

Hyperion

Midgardsomr 

Gilgamesh

Famfrit

 

These are either organised in linkshells or guilds. Not all of them have websites. Size wise, a lot of them seem equal. 

I do not think that having a mentality of "Bigger is better" is going to be very helpful when looking for RP outside of Balmung. 

http://jenovacasualcorner.tumblr.com/ - Jenova 

http://rec-u.enjin.com/ - Jenova 

http://koto-ffxiv.shivtr.com/ - Jenova 

http://www.gilgamesh-rp.com/ - Gilgamesh 

 

Awoken Wanderers on Leviathan, Arche Koeln on Lamia, Tantalus Threatre LS on Lamia, The Hearth LS on Leviathan.. And more to come. We will eventually get the names and links of everywhere. I hope you can use some of this info for your list.

 

 

MATEUS

 

Foxfirestorm's Mateus Rundown

Kylin's Mateus Feedback

Sable's Mateus Endorsement

Vexander's Mateus Endorsement

Rosekitten's Mateus Endorsement

TK Hikaru's Mateus Endorsement

Jeanne IX's Mateus Endorsement

FallenFedora's Mateus Endorsement

Seraphine Felstar's Rundown

 

SIREN

 

Kylin's Siren Feedback

 

FAERIE

 

Lynae Flores' Faerie Rundown

Ink's Faerie Rundown

Widow1987's Faerie Rundown

 

JENOVA

 

Redariesye's Jenova Endorsement

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I'd definitely consider making a poll. That being said, I also think it may be wise to wait before choosing. I only say that because it's only designated servers that will receive the transfer benefits. Without knowing what those servers are, people will likely be less enticed, especially with the FC related benefits being added to those designated servers.

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I agree that making a decision right now is not the best, but there is a lot of activity going on that isn't widely known on the RP-C. I'd like to change that so that there is a better informed decision when a poll is put into place.

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Thank you for putting this up for the discussion of us smaller servers. I need to rest my eyes for a bit (been staring at my screen since 8am this morning and its now 5pm), but I will be glad to speak up a bit about Mateus, if others from the server don't speak up before I do-- But here is a little I can offer.

 

All I can say is we been around for a bit now, at least since the Q4 of 2016. Our thread here on Hydaelyn has around 2k views and we share similar rp styles to Besaid, or what Besaid was like and the early days of Balmung.

 

I have already gotten about 5 PMs as of today looking to join up, 3 which have joined our Discord channel which we use to post events and keep everyone in touch (along with list community rules), and just invited 2 new people to the LS.

 

We have a total of 90+ members and around 20-25 people on as of this writing. I have seen it get up to 40 members during the weekend and even higher on some days. We have had some growing pains, but these are to be expected. I am not going to hide that, but we manage to always get by them and keep having fun. If one person trips up, someone is there to lend a hand.

 

These are a great group of people. Mateus as a community is a great group of people. Nothing is not without its problems, but its how we deal with those problems, is how we are able to keep marching along.

 

If nothing else, at least come give us a look and if you decide Mateus is not for you, that is fine as well. There are Siren, Fairy, and others and I know they too are just as eager as we are in their own way. I just sadly can't speak for them.

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I fundamentally oppose designating another RP server and encourage all RPers to concentrate RP on Balmung.  The only reason why a person should not RP on Balmung is if they are new player to the game and therefore physically cannot access the server at the present time.

 

The greatest threat to the long-term health of the RP community in FFXIV is disorganization and fragmentation across numerous servers.  Server choice should not be an artificial limitation that constricts who and how you can roleplay.  Unfortunately, on smaller servers, RPers do not enjoy the same breadth of choice in terms of in-character content and styles of roleplay.

 

It is critical that RPers stick together and form as large of a community as possible.  This creates greater RP opportunities and a more meaningful community.

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I fundamentally oppose designating another RP server and encourage all RPers to concentrate RP on Balmung.  The only reason why a person should not RP on Balmung is if they are new player to the game and therefore physically cannot access the server at the present time.

 

The greatest threat to the long-term health of the RP community in FFXIV is disorganization and fragmentation across numerous servers.  Server choice should not be an artificial limitation that constricts who and how you can roleplay.  Unfortunately, on smaller servers, RPers do not enjoy the same breadth of choice in terms of in-character content and styles of roleplay.

 

It is critical that RPers stick together and form as large of a community as possible.  This creates greater RP opportunities and a more meaningful community.

 

Sig, I am not sure if you are aware but currently new players are unable to join Balmung. New character creation and server transfers are completely disabled for the foreseeable future. There is a need right now for an alternative and this thread is to help people make an educated decision on which server would fit them best.

 

If you would like to discuss the current situation with the server lock down, please go here: http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=19397 . In the mean time, I would like to please keep this thread clear from such discussions so that clear information can be given to players seeking a new refuge.

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I fundamentally oppose designating another RP server and encourage all RPers to concentrate RP on Balmung.  The only reason why a person should not RP on Balmung is if they are new player to the game and therefore physically cannot access the server at the present time.

 

The greatest threat to the long-term health of the RP community in FFXIV is disorganization and fragmentation across numerous servers.  Server choice should not be an artificial limitation that constricts who and how you can roleplay.  Unfortunately, on smaller servers, RPers do not enjoy the same breadth of choice in terms of in-character content and styles of roleplay.

 

It is critical that RPers stick together and form as large of a community as possible.  This creates greater RP opportunities and a more meaningful community.

Uh.. the whole point of this is because Balmung is now closed and we no longer have options for new people. I don't think anyone has suggested a mass exodus from Balmung and been taken seriously.

 

EDIT: On topic, my vote is for Mateus. It's the only server of the current option I've seen that's got a decent sized community and has actually put in the work to advertise and be seen.

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Personally, I think I will answer the Ban for new Roleplayers with the simpliest solution:

Fuck you Square, I'm giving my money to Blizzard again. They are absolute unable to write a semi-engaging story, but at least they are able to assigne roleplay servers right from the beginning and don't take 18$ for a by now worthless servertransfer.

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Personally, I think I will answer the Ban for new Roleplayers with the simpliest solution:

Fuck you Square, I'm giving my money to Blizzard again. They are absolute unable to write a semi-engaging story, but at least they are able to assigne roleplay servers right from the beginning and don't take 18$ for a by now worthless servertransfer.

 

That's your choice, but I don't know if it's a helpful contribution to this particular thread. It's important to remember that it was never intended by Square Enix as a "ban for roleplayers" - in fact, the restrictions apply to 5 other servers, as well. It is - as far as I can discern - an emergency measure designed to ease the login queues and server stability problems that tend to surround a new expansion release, such as the upcoming Stormblood release.

 

Balmung's predicament is, essentially, a problem at least partially of the RP community's own making. And I think it's one we should - and can - work together to equally partially solve, by creating and/or encouraging the creation of a viable alternative for people who aren't on Balmung already. Going forward, if this alternative attains the value I think we should be hoping for from it, it will remain a valid option for new roleplayers, and a valid alternative for existing roleplayers - whatever their reasons for desiring one.

 

I understood discussing the nature of that alternative as the point of this thread.

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Ah, RP server selection drama...how I missed thee. Most MMOs only get to see you for a single fleeting moment. FFXIV is fortunate enough to see you on three separate occasions. Truly an oldie but goodie.

 

I can only testify to two communities: Siren and Mateus.

 

Siren: I was only here maybe a month or so. In terms of numbers, pretty good compared to others out there. But I got the impression only 5 or so people in their linkshell actually actively RPed. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can only comment on what I saw. I also didn't see many, if any, IC linkshells. Everything was OOC. They've also had a pretty heavy amount of OOC drama and leadership has shifted multiple times in a very short span of time. I don't even know who the new 'representative' of Siren RP is, and I wonder if they even know...

 

Official Website: http://sirenrp.enjin.com/

Linkshell Profile: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/linkshell/16044073672550899/

RPC Ad: No active one...

Discord: Yes, rarely used...

 

Mateus: Very passionate group that has fought like crazy to stay alive even as Balmung sucked up everything around it. Their passion is what drew me to them. They have something like 5+ active RP groups with varying themes. Healthy population in comparison to others. Need to improve on open world RP (they're aware of this already I think) and get out of the houses so much. Also need more variety of RP events outside of just tavern nights (also probably aware of).

 

Official Website: None?

Linkshell Profile: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/linkshell/10414574138371308/ (they have a separate linkshell for alts)

RPC Ad: http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=18115

Discord: Yes, high usage

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Personally, I think I will answer the Ban for new Roleplayers with the simpliest solution:

Fuck you Square, I'm giving my money to Blizzard again. They are absolute unable to write a semi-engaging story, but at least they are able to assigne roleplay servers right from the beginning and don't take 18$ for a by now worthless servertransfer.

 

That's your choice, but I don't know if it's a helpful contribution to this particular thread. It's important to remember that it was never intended by Square Enix as a "ban for roleplayers" - in fact, the restrictions apply to 5 other servers, as well. It is - as far as I can discern - an emergency measure designed to ease the login queues and server stability problems that tend to surround a new expansion release, such as the upcoming Stormblood release.

 

Balmung's predicament is, essentially, a problem at least partially of the RP community's own making. And I think it's one we should - and can - work together to equally partially solve, by creating and/or encouraging the creation of a viable alternative for people who aren't on Balmung already. Going forward, if this alternative attains the value I think we should be hoping for from it, it will remain a valid option for new roleplayers, and a valid alternative for existing roleplayers - whatever their reasons for desiring one.

 

I understood discussing the nature of that alternative as the point of this thread.

 

I personally think that voting with my wallet is another good way to tackle the problem. If square doesn't wants my money from monthly subscription and server transfer, I simply give it to more RP friendly companies. If square has any grasp on the RP Community, they knew what they were doing and I think the best way to answer this would be to buy other products or try out some MMOs we left behind before. I think the best roleplayers could do to support newer roleplayers is to not support squares product anymore and recommed other, RP friendly MMOs to them. I will give World of Warcraft RP another try.

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Personally, I think I will answer the Ban for new Roleplayers with the simpliest solution:

Fuck you Square, I'm giving my money to Blizzard again. They are absolute unable to write a semi-engaging story, but at least they are able to assigne roleplay servers right from the beginning and don't take 18$ for a by now worthless servertransfer.

 

That's your choice, but I don't know if it's a helpful contribution to this particular thread. It's important to remember that it was never intended by Square Enix as a "ban for roleplayers" - in fact, the restrictions apply to 5 other servers, as well. It is - as far as I can discern - an emergency measure designed to ease the login queues and server stability problems that tend to surround a new expansion release, such as the upcoming Stormblood release.

 

Balmung's predicament is, essentially, a problem at least partially of the RP community's own making. And I think it's one we should - and can - work together to equally partially solve, by creating and/or encouraging the creation of a viable alternative for people who aren't on Balmung already. Going forward, if this alternative attains the value I think we should be hoping for from it, it will remain a valid option for new roleplayers, and a valid alternative for existing roleplayers - whatever their reasons for desiring one.

 

I understood discussing the nature of that alternative as the point of this thread.

 

I personally think that voting with my wallet is another good way to tackle the problem. If square doesn't wants my money from monthly subscription and server transfer, I simply give it to more RP friendly companies. If square has any grasp on the RP Community, they knew what they were doing and I think the best way to answer this would be to buy other protects or try out some MMOs we left behind before. I think the best roleplayers could do to support newer roleplayers is to not support squares product anymore and recommed other, RP friendly MMOs to them.

 

This is a valid opinion, but this is NOT the thread for such discussion. Please go to the server megathread to discuss the issue. This thread is for the merits and opinions on the alternative server communities only, not for debating the repercussions of the server lockdown.

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I'm in agreement, there needs to be a place designated for new RPers to XIV to congregate. We need to be able to recommend somewhere to new players until Balmung's population stabilizes and they are able to open it to new characters again. (And even after, if people do not want to join Balmung due to its size).

 

Once one is decided, there should be a new button in the FC/LS tabs for them. There should be support for them (even a splitting of Event and Seeking Connection forums, etcetera, into Balmung, New NA Server Option, New EU Sever Option, and Other). If we want the RPC to be/remain the "XIV RP community" rather than just "The RP community on Balmung" 's go to website, we need to do this.

 

However, when it comes to choosing that we should take input from various people on other servers, or those who have been to other servers (like Kylin above), and use that rather than posting a poll that anyone can vote on. At the moment I think I will personally recommend Mateus (and Faerie?) until I see more feedback here.

 

Edit: Reading comprehension is hard tonight. Overall: I support OP's approach, but think the RPC management needs to react too.

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Hi all! 

 

On the topic of alternate servers I've actually taken the liberty (along with some friends of mine) to start bringing together the Faerie community. We have a newly made website ( https://ffxiv-faerie-rp.enjin.com/ ) a LS that is steadily growing with 40+ members and a discord server as well with around 35+ so that everyone can stay in contact. So far we've been working on setting up hubs, there's already a dedicated player made tavern and more are in the works. Please, if you have need of a place to stay RP wise and would like to help build a rapidly growing community I implore you to check it out if you're thinking of trying out a different server instead of Balmung. 

 

Personally I found it too difficult to even try to get onto Balmung, especially as a newer player, so instead I sought out RP of my own on Faerie. Although it was harder to find it's definitely there and hopefully now easier for people to access.

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How uh...endemic is this attitude in Mateus?

 

"What is with you Balmung RPers and being so entitled? There's a pretty healthy RP communnity on Mateus and no one reacts like this. (But please, don't come to Mateus we don't want you here) "

 

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/324942-Transfer-Restrictions-and-Roleplayers?p=4144695&viewfull=1#post4144695

 

Cuz ... as someone who's been in very small rp communities before, once that kind of us vs them attitude starts to grow, it can be extremely difficult for new ideas to take root, and for new kinds of rpers to get settled in if what they want to write goes against the status quo. Coming into a tight knit rp community can be hard enough without actual resistance growing there before people actually move in.

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[i JUST REALIZED. One of the community leads had already posted the information to the Faerie Server so my apologies for posting again her name is Lynaea Flores on here]

 

Home Server- Faerie

 

Well I'm not the community leader for Faerie RP but I did work with them on getting RP community up and running or unification efforts. I let them know this thread was going on at the moment but they are all busy currently I believe so i'm posting this here for now. The last few weeks before the Server Transfer "Ban" started we have been uniting rpers for our Server. We currently have an FF RP Faerie Enjin Website, Faerie RP Discord Server with approx 40 members and RP LS with about 50 members. Not a lot I know but we have made good progress on uniting rpers who are on the server so far and getting everyone active with each other. Attempting to hold weekly events in different public areas to spread the awareness of RP on our server.  So if anyone would like to add Faerie to the poll please do so! We'd love to have more rpers join our growing community.  IF anyone is interested you can give me a ping on here or on Discord

 

Ink#4262 and I can send you an invite to the RP Discord. I will post a Link to the RP Enjin Website as well below for anyone interested. Just keep in mind its all new and we are still growing!

 

https://ffxiv-faerie-rp.enjin.com/

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Overall: I support OP's approach, but think the RPC management needs to react too.

 

I want to keep this thread mostly on topic, but wanted to address this point specifically.

 

Previously, RPC did feature split sections for Balmung and Gilgamesh for events, directories, etc. They were later merged when it became apparent that most of the posts were only coming from Balmung. This was also when we implemented server prefixes for those forums, so that users could select from not only Balmung and Gilgamesh, but other servers that were being used at the time. (I plan to add Mateus as soon as I finish this post and another). We can split them back into separate forums, but that comes with a readability cost. Either we'd have subforums per server for the designated servers, or we'd have a larger forum list, which is also about as daunting. Our proposed move to InvisionPower does help with some of this, as it has built-in support for multiple tags, a prefix, and best of all, FILTERING.

 

Given that some of the boards (like the Town Center) aren't moving particularly fast right now, splitting any boards is on hold until we know more about the server people are willing to put the work into growing. That's not a RPC Staff decision because the staff arbitrarily picking a server is no more useful than any other single person offering a server. On that note, it's honestly up to users to promote which servers they'd like and on the RPC, we'll do what we can to help those then get noticed. A lot of our split sections are running on some severely delicate custom code that doesn't scale well. (That filtering in the Halls? All custom. It requires making about 10 extra forum-specific templates that all can't conflict with each other and must be updated manually. They also can't be imported correctly to anything else because it's all handled through a special plugin).

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How uh...endemic is this attitude in Mateus?

 

"What is with you Balmung RPers and being so entitled? There's a pretty healthy RP communnity on Mateus and no one reacts like this. (But please, don't come to Mateus we don't want you here) "

 

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/324942-Transfer-Restrictions-and-Roleplayers?p=4144695&viewfull=1#post4144695

 

Cuz ... as someone who's been in very small rp communities before, once that kind of us vs them attitude starts to grow, it can be extremely difficult for new ideas to take root, and for new kinds of rpers to get settled in if what they want to write goes against the status quo.  Coming into a tight knit rp community can be hard enough without actual resistance growing there before people actually move in.

 

I will state this, I am aware of them. I have already said my peace to them (I'm Koti on the SE Forums). They are not the RPC and they are not at all the face of most of the community on Mateus.

 

I don't know who they are, but when I was shown this by one of the members on the RPC, I was quick to reply. Sadly the SE Forums can be a very toxic place that speak very ill of a community.

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From what I've seen, I'm rather in favor of Mateus. The community thus far has been friendly, open, engaging, and just the right balance between creative and lore-adhering. Its also quite supportive. The RPC Discord is fairly in-depth and thorough.

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Overall: I support OP's approach, but think the RPC management needs to react too.

 

I want to keep this thread mostly on topic, but wanted to address this point specifically.

 

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Requiring users to select on of the tags, listing the main servers that are noted for RP as well as an "other" could help. I think with the new boards with filtering actually splitting the boards would be unneeded.

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How uh...endemic is this attitude in Mateus?

 

"What is with you Balmung RPers and being so entitled? There's a pretty healthy RP communnity on Mateus and no one reacts like this. (But please, don't come to Mateus we don't want you here) "

 

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/324942-Transfer-Restrictions-and-Roleplayers?p=4144695&viewfull=1#post4144695

 

Cuz ... as someone who's been in very small rp communities before, once that kind of us vs them attitude starts to grow, it can be extremely difficult for new ideas to take root, and for new kinds of rpers to get settled in if what they want to write goes against the status quo.  Coming into a tight knit rp community can be hard enough without actual resistance growing there before people actually move in.

 

I will state this, I am aware of them. I have already said my peace to them (I'm Koti on the SE Forums). They are not the RPC and they are not at all the face of most of the community on Mateus.

 

I don't know who they are, but when I was shown this by one of the members on the RPC, I was quick to reply. Sadly the SE Forums can be a very toxic place that speak very ill of a community.

It's one person making a characterization of Balmung because someone from Balmung said that Balmung needs to be labeled RP server and essentially force out everyone else who isn't an RPer off the world.

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Overall: I support OP's approach, but think the RPC management needs to react too.

 

I want to keep this thread mostly on topic, but wanted to address this point specifically.

 

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Requiring users to select on of the tags, listing the main servers that are noted for RP as well as an "other" could help. I think with the new boards with filtering actually splitting the boards would be unneeded.

 

That's something we can actually force on IPS. ...on MyBB, a fancy plugin does all the prefixes and tag-ish things elsewhere. ...it's really powerful, but it has certain limitations. ...all the relevant places should have prefix options though. ...although title text ones can be just as handy in our filtering-not-possible sections like events and directories.

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How uh...endemic is this attitude in Mateus?

 

"What is with you Balmung RPers and being so entitled? There's a pretty healthy RP communnity on Mateus and no one reacts like this. (But please, don't come to Mateus we don't want you here) "

 

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/324942-Transfer-Restrictions-and-Roleplayers?p=4144695&viewfull=1#post4144695

 

Cuz ... as someone who's been in very small rp communities before, once that kind of us vs them attitude starts to grow, it can be extremely difficult for new ideas to take root, and for new kinds of rpers to get settled in if what they want to write goes against the status quo.  Coming into a tight knit rp community can be hard enough without actual resistance growing there before people actually move in.

 

I will state this, I am aware of them. I have already said my peace to them (I'm Koti on the SE Forums). They are not the RPC and they are not at all the face of most of the community on Mateus.

 

I don't know who they are, but when I was shown this by one of the members on the RPC, I was quick to reply. Sadly the SE Forums can be a very toxic place that speak very ill of a community.

It's one person making a characterization of Balmung because someone from Balmung said that Balmung needs to be labeled RP server and essentially force out everyone else who isn't an RPer off the world.

 

Is that what started it all...

Gods.... I feel like bring out my rocking chair now with my cane and going "I remember back in 1.0 on Besaid... We didn't worry about no fuddle duddle RP tags. If you were looking for RP, you just had to go searching for it... with the lag and sometimes zones trying to eat your computer. Mmhm." xD

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How uh...endemic is this attitude in Mateus?

 

"What is with you Balmung RPers and being so entitled? There's a pretty healthy RP communnity on Mateus and no one reacts like this. (But please, don't come to Mateus we don't want you here) "

 

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/324942-Transfer-Restrictions-and-Roleplayers?p=4144695&viewfull=1#post4144695

 

Cuz ... as someone who's been in very small rp communities before, once that kind of us vs them attitude starts to grow, it can be extremely difficult for new ideas to take root, and for new kinds of rpers to get settled in if what they want to write goes against the status quo.  Coming into a tight knit rp community can be hard enough without actual resistance growing there before people actually move in.

 

I will state this, I am aware of them. I have already said my peace to them (I'm Koti on the SE Forums). They are not the RPC and they are not at all the face of most of the community on Mateus.

 

I don't know who they are, but when I was shown this by one of the members on the RPC, I was quick to reply. Sadly the SE Forums can be a very toxic place that speak very ill of a community.

It's one person making a characterization of Balmung because someone from Balmung said that Balmung needs to be labeled RP server and essentially force out everyone else who isn't an RPer off the world.

 

Is that what started it all...

Gods.... I feel like bring out my rocking chair now with my cane and going "I remember back in 1.0 on Besaid... We didn't worry about no fuddle duddle RP tags. If you were looking for RP, you just had to go searching for it... with the lag and sometimes zones trying to eat your computer. Mmhm." xD

 

That, and the official forum's general populace posting has always been a "Balmung's issues are created by Balmung itself." No matter if people were there because of the Besaid merger etc.

 

Just don't let the official forums' posters represent a sample of who you will see in-game. They're just another example of a vocal minority.

 

Does Mateus' RP community have any representation on tumblr? Or Faerie's? Other's? I know Balmung's RP community is barely represented in part by those here on RPC (hydaelyn roleplayers coalition, this site here). I know there's a sizeable portion of Balmung roleplayers on tumblr.

 

Would it be possible to gather some of those communities to come and speak about themselves here?

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