The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales

[Eva]

Seems relevent based on some dialogue on the previous page:

 

I've done several dungeons as WHM with a SCH friend along with whatever tank and other DPS happens to be available. Almost always we will clear things much more quickly with 2x healer than most pickup roulettes in the standard config. Plus it's fun going nuke-happy once in awhile and letting my friend's fairy take care of most of the healing. :love:

[Kage]

Sometimes I am afk or tabbed

 

I have a whole album of creep shots that say it's more than "sometimes."

[Kellach Woods]

When NIN try to perfect dodge divebombs in T5.

 

Yes, you avoid damage.

 

No, you do not -not- get knocked backed.

 

SAY WORD?

 

all desire to roll NIN has left this body

[Nebbs]

Um...this was supposed to be venting, yes? :blush:

 

Yes, you're found the right place. Welcome, hate-brother, we've been waiting for you.

 

Seriously, though, Xiaoli touched on a lot of the reasons why I left WoW and got burned out in general. I think I mentioned it in the opening post or somewhere near there too. Raid guild drama is caustic and toxic and no fun at all. And I straight up hated the "to run this raid, you had to have run this raid" circular nonsense that had quickly become predominant. LFR helped a lot with that, but it was late in coming to someone who's played since Vanilla.

 

The FFXIV raids may be shorter. May be faster. May even be easier to learn, I dunno, I haven't dipped into it beyond ST/CT/First couple parts of the first Coil. However, it's pretty apparent the Raid Culture is here just as soundly as it is in WoW. And, really, I just don't WANT to get back into raiding.

 

I'm happy enough dressing up my green-haired midget to look like a Behemoth in Paladin armor and running around having RPs and helping here and there when someone in a dungeon needs themselves a tank.

 

 

 Yes, I too fell off the WoW wagon for the same reasons. I do play it sometimes now and then but I play it the same way I play FF, except I'm in a perk guild so basically they don't care if you log in on not, there are people who have been inactive for years and can come back and still be in the guild.

 

 

I reallllly love this game, it's beautiful and can be fun when you do get to have that old timey atmosphere of playing with friends. I am also quite satisfied for now with dressing my char up like a virtual dolly, and running around RPing when I get the chance! I also had the pleasure of decorating both a FC house and personal house since for the FC, it was supposed to be a surprise for when the folks I made the company with back in the beginning came back.. but I think they got sucked into a wormhole instead.

 

 

Also: Holy moly at the other vent lol. That is table flipping venting there!

 

I will also sign the "why the fell of WoW" list.

[Kage]

FELLOW BLACKMAGES.

 

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MANAWALL SHIVA'S KNOCKBACK

 

IT DOES NOT MEAN THE PEOPLE YOU POINTED THAT AT CAN OR ANTICIPATE HAVING TO MOVE CAUSE YOU ARE TOO LAZY.

[Aysun]

FELLOW BLACKMAGES.

 

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MANAWALL SHIVA'S KNOCKBACK

 

IT DOES NOT MEAN THE PEOPLE YOU POINTED THAT AT CAN OR ANTICIPATE HAVING TO MOVE CAUSE YOU ARE TOO LAZY.

 

That said, hate it when people stand behind her and think it's the marked person's fault that they got hit.

[Kage]

FELLOW BLACKMAGES.

 

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MANAWALL SHIVA'S KNOCKBACK

 

IT DOES NOT MEAN THE PEOPLE YOU POINTED THAT AT CAN OR ANTICIPATE HAVING TO MOVE CAUSE YOU ARE TOO LAZY.

 

That said, hate it when people stand behind her and think it's the marked person's fault that they got hit.

Yes. So agreed.

 

Please stop taking this stupid unnecessary damage.

 

Especially when you slide and get frozen.

 

All other dps And healers.

[Nebbs]

FELLOW BLACKMAGES.

 

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MANAWALL SHIVA'S KNOCKBACK

 

IT DOES NOT MEAN THE PEOPLE YOU POINTED THAT AT CAN OR ANTICIPATE HAVING TO MOVE CAUSE YOU ARE TOO LAZY.

 

That said, hate it when people stand behind her and think it's the marked person's fault that they got hit.

Yes. So agreed.

 

Please stop taking this stupid unnecessary damage.

 

Especially when you slide and get frozen.

 

All other dps And healers.

 

 

Buuuut sliding.. fun!.. yay!

[Kage]

FELLOW BLACKMAGES.

 

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MANAWALL SHIVA'S KNOCKBACK

 

IT DOES NOT MEAN THE PEOPLE YOU POINTED THAT AT CAN OR ANTICIPATE HAVING TO MOVE CAUSE YOU ARE TOO LAZY.

 

That said, hate it when people stand behind her and think it's the marked person's fault that they got hit.

Yes. So agreed.

 

Please stop taking this stupid unnecessary damage.

 

Especially when you slide and get frozen.

 

All other dps And healers.

 

 

Buuuut sliding.. fun!.. yay!

If you can slide and not be frozen, good!

If you get frozen, bad! T_T

[Nebbs]

FELLOW BLACKMAGES.

 

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MANAWALL SHIVA'S KNOCKBACK

 

IT DOES NOT MEAN THE PEOPLE YOU POINTED THAT AT CAN OR ANTICIPATE HAVING TO MOVE CAUSE YOU ARE TOO LAZY.

 

That said, hate it when people stand behind her and think it's the marked person's fault that they got hit.

Yes. So agreed.

 

Please stop taking this stupid unnecessary damage.

 

Especially when you slide and get frozen.

 

All other dps And healers.

 

 

Buuuut sliding.. fun!.. yay!

If you can slide and not be frozen, good!

If you get frozen, bad! T_T

 

WTB Sliding Floor for my room!

[Kellach Woods]

I've never actually done Shiva.

[Nebbs]

I've never actually done Shiva.

^ Dito - well not cleared, can't find good enough learning group

 

Also not even been in T8, but am now on T10 (down to 1%)

[cuideag]

People who are just... hella rude and horrible during dungeons. Took the BF and some friends into CT hoping for a quick and easy clear. Turns out the majority of group B were trolls of the worst sort and could not be vote dismissed since they commanded the majority of the party. Racist slurs, homophobic comments, all sorts of garbage on top of trolling on bosses and encounters. I don't understand the point.

[Nebbs]

People who are just... hella rude and horrible during dungeons. Took the BF and some friends into CT hoping for a quick and easy clear. Turns out the majority of group B were trolls of the worst sort and could not be vote dismissed since they commanded the majority of the party. Racist slurs, homophobic comments, all sorts of garbage on top of trolling on bosses and encounters. I don't understand the point.

 

Humanity, has a lot of garbage

[Gegenji]

People who are just... hella rude and horrible during dungeons. Took the BF and some friends into CT hoping for a quick and easy clear. Turns out the majority of group B were trolls of the worst sort and could not be vote dismissed since they commanded the majority of the party. Racist slurs, homophobic comments, all sorts of garbage on top of trolling on bosses and encounters. I don't understand the point.

 

Humanity, has a lot of garbage

 

A lot of people seem to think the anonymity of the Internet gives them carte blanche to dig into the darkest aspects of themselves and present them as loudly as possible because they don't think they can get in trouble for it.

[Kage]

It's not just that. But it's the mentality that "It's just CT/ST. We can dick around."

 

We can be assholes.

 

We can talk trash.

 

We can make lewd asinine stupid comments.

[Kellach Woods]

How to turn a cool victory into a "I can't believe I'm playing this game with these fuckheads."

 

I'd post the screenshot but not a fan of repeating racial epithets which only occur because of Kellach's skin color.

[Ha'uruh Nunh]

If you are a DRG or a NIN (or a MNK, though I see this less frequently), and you are using your Stun as part of your DPS rotation on a fight where Stun is needed for another purpose, please fuck off with that nonsense.

 

I'm looking at you, idiot Nexus-spam twats who just faceroll Ifrit and have him on DR before the final phase.  Just because you need a million lights doesn't mean you shouldn't put the modicum of effort in to not blow up the entire melee line in the final phase - you know, the deadly one, where people can get killed because you're a lazy shit.

 

Also looking at you, people DRing the scorpion in Sastasha HM.  Though at least there you have the minor excuse that 90% of parties won't even try to stun Tail Screw.

[Kage]

I save stuns for last phase only and then when I use it for the eruptions before 90%roomAOEplumes LOL FULLY RESISTED.

 

 

I'd like to keep going with my static but it's now dead and only 3 of us.

 

 

....

 

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I JUST... I need consistency and stability. I want to constantly raid. Not like HARDCORE RARG but... i need constant and consistent... and it feels like there's progress.

[Nebbs]

People who are just... hella rude and horrible during dungeons. Took the BF and some friends into CT hoping for a quick and easy clear. Turns out the majority of group B were trolls of the worst sort and could not be vote dismissed since they commanded the majority of the party. Racist slurs, homophobic comments, all sorts of garbage on top of trolling on bosses and encounters. I don't understand the point.

 

Humanity, has a lot of garbage

 

A lot of people seem to think the anonymity of the Internet gives them carte blanche to dig into the darkest aspects of themselves and present them as loudly as possible because they don't think they can get in trouble for it.

 

It is a detachment, similar with road rage. People don't feel connected or responsible and their inner ego comes out and runs riot. Maybe RPers are a little more aware there is someone else on the other end, I don't know. But this kind of action without any self awareness or even self censoring is common in many places.

[Ilwe'ran]

It's been long I would like to talk about those picking on others for their language and culture.

 

It's not because you're english native speaker that the whole world is like you.

It's not because you're english native speaker that we all write and speak as you do.

It's not because you're english native speaker that you should take any opportunity to jeer those who aren't.

 

You have to be TOLERANT over those who aren't english native and will spend their whole life learning YOUR language.

You have to UNDERSTAND that when a non native write a sentence, he doesn't check 150 times the vocabulary, the grammar or the structure of the sentence before pressing enter.

You have to ACCEPT that due to the learning process and different culture what comes out for you to be rude can be totaly different for the non native who just talked.

 

 

Yes, I'm looking at you who tells me that I'm aggressive / rude / whatever because my sentence isn't wrote as YOU would have write it yourself. Guess what ? Teachers aren't teaching people about irony and aggressivity, they only teach basic way to communicate and we don't always get what it implies for you.

 

I'm also looking at you who uses the fact I'm not native as an argument to blurt out that everything I can say is sh*t. If you're not doing your job properly in a dungeon and makes the party wiping, I won't stop myself to tell it to you. The fact my english isn't perfect doesn't mean that I'm wrong nor justify your attitude toward me.

 

 

Just f*ck off. I'm not native, at least I try to communicate, yelling at me / blaming me / mocking me isn't trying to communicate. It's only being an a*se.

 

The day you'll begin to speak another language than your native one as best as we do learn and speak english, we'll talk again about all this. Maybe that day you'll notice that you were an a*se to pick on me or on my friend 'cause our english isn't perfect.

Yes dude, it's freaking easy to mock others, but at least we TRY. Now tell me which one is rude and which one is useless again ?

 

PS : A lot of Caps Lock and all. I think this makes me angry since long D:

[Nebbs]

@Ilwe'ran ... sorry

[Melodia]

*Huggles Ilwe'ran*

 

As an American with a Japanese spouse, a child with a speech impediment, and dozens of friends in Japan and Europe, I completely get your post and that crap annoys me too.

[Steel Wolf]

 

If ever there was a legitimate and truly worthy gripe in this Vent Tent...this is it. I echo Nebbs in apologizing on behalf of my fellow native speakers for whomever was being a stratospheric cockbag.

[Gegenji]

The day you'll begin to speak another language than your native one as best as we do learn and speak english, we'll talk again about all this. Maybe that day you'll notice that you were an a*se to pick on me or on my friend 'cause our english isn't perfect.

Yes dude, it's freaking easy to mock others, but at least we TRY. Now tell me which one is rude and which one is useless again ?

 

What's even better? According to the military categorization of language by difficulty, English is the ONLY Category V. Chinese and Japanese and a few others are Category IV, and the Romance languages are down at... Category II since they all follow a simple and understandable conjugation structure that's more or less interchangeable between them.

 

But yeah. Thanks to all the rules that aren't ("i before e except after c", anyone?) and special cases and such, English is rated the hardest language to learn. Learning that makes me all the more impressed with those who seek to learn to speak it. And this is from someone who at some point learned (and subsequently forgotten due to lack of use) bits of French, Spanish, Latin, and Arabic.