Val

Seconded. It really needs to happen more.

Agreed. If anything, we as older members of the RPC should accept this idea with open ears rather than shunning it because WE'VE found RP just fine. I'm not necessarily saying anyone here has done this, but it's always good to look at something objectively and consider that it may very well be a possible issue. I know my FC generally keeps their doors open to newcomers, but not all would know that and that still makes it feel very cliquish when the person has to go TO the house to find RP rather than just hanging out in the city. I'd like to see more RP out in the world, or down city streets or even in other cities rather than centering it around the Quicksand. You can certainly find it, but it's hard.

..Pretty much this. The sad truth is that in a lot of RP circles, telling someone that their opinion is wrong will cause more fights than it'll solve, and I've seen too few people be able to actually have a debate without eventually making an argument out of it. I can agree that debates are NOT arguments. Except when they eventually become one due to one person getting offended by the other.

oh hohoho Arry should tell Faye about all the things Val tells her. Oh god Val would cry. Also, what makes Val blush is when people find out he's actually really super sweet to Faye, or when he has to be in public to her. Like that singing telegram thing :v

Honestly, like I said before, it's very very easy to miss someone emoting at you or to you. Did you send them a /tell? I have, actually! Sometimes they respond, sometimes it continues to be ignored. As Aya said, results may vary. It really just depends on luck and time of day/person. That does suck :< I've never had issues with the people who are active here though I have had times before where I ended up afk (or dual-screening) and not seeing i received a tell. That's never happened -while- I was in the middle of RP though @_@ Like I said, it really just depends. If I'm on Val, I have ZERO problems getting RP because people know him/me. If I'm on an unnamed, unknown alt? Hardly anyone pays him any attention. I did have a random from my own FC that didn't know who I was come and talk to him, so that was nice! And I had a random fortune teller and, of course, Aya's amazing self RP with him! They were all very enjoyable experiences it's just hard to get him involved otherwise, being a sword for hire, when no one pays attention to him when he asks if they have work!

Honestly, like I said before, it's very very easy to miss someone emoting at you or to you. Did you send them a /tell? I have, actually! Sometimes they respond, sometimes it continues to be ignored. As Aya said, results may vary. It really just depends on luck and time of day/person.

I think it depends on who you are, and the day. There have been times when I've gone to the Quicksand and emoted for hours to get nothing--especially if I'm on my alt. Val tends to get noticed or interacted with because people know him and he's a catboy. My Midlanders? I even emoted one bumping into someone else, or spilling his drink on someone, or asking someone else questions--all different days--all ignored. I don't necessarily think the Quicksand is a problem, as I know a bunch of people that go there and do get interaction. But I do think that it can be disheartening and incredibly annoying to try multiple days of the week and get nothing in return. I will say I dislike how people seem to gravitate toward the Quicksand. It's so hard to find RP outside of it, and I wish there were. I'm hoping the Gold Saucer changes that, but it's also going to be a ridiculously huge lagfest with a ton of non-RPers unless they manage to instance it off like housing.

Ditto. Val would try to help me get laid. Only, when he finds I actually have a girlfriend, he'd tell me I was stupid for settling down with one woman and go off to get laid on his own. He'd loaf around on my couch all day, drink all my alcohol, and bring women over to sleep with them. It'd be so damn annoying. Melfice would probably murder me in my sleep and use me for all kinds of weird things. Cyrus would.. .. Cyrus would get me to walk around with him and try to make the community a better place.

Val would need to go near the beginning for the same reasons as Faye! FC meeting! Name: Val Nunh Race: Miqo'te (Seeker) Gender: Male Information: Val is brash, cocky, and downright rude to most people he meets, but this doesn't mean he necessarily dislikes them. He just likes to test their patience and see how far he can push them before they inevitably snap. When someone manages to gain his trust and companionship, they'll find a loyal friend that will stop at nothing to ensure they are happy and safe. He's also rather mischievous and known for causing trouble, especially when his significant other isn't around and he knows he can get away with it. He isn't very intelligent, at least where books are concerned. He can't read or write (at least not well), but he at least has some common sense. He excels in combat and combat tactics in order to make up for his lack in social graces. Speaking of social graces, he's incredibly homophobic, so females would probably have a better time at a "date" with him than males, and he's not looking for anything sexual as he is more than loyal to his betrothed.

I'll just.. make a bullet list. I'm a HUGE Chrono Trigger fan. Not so much of Cross, but I <3 some Trigger. I absolutely LOVE the Witcher. While I don't think the Legacy of Kain series is really considered a full-on RPG, it plays a lot like the Zelda games and I absolutely fell in love with it. Hands down one of my favorite stories. Speaking of Zelda, A Link to the Past is my favorite. Grandia 1 and 2 are wonderful! Xenosaga is great stuff too! I really liked the Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 RPG elements, and I enjoyed Darksiders as well. Both are kind of Zelda/God of War clones, but I still enjoyed them. Record of Lodoss War for the Dreamcast was an amazing game. I still play it from time to time! Phantasy Star Online 1 and 2 were ngh. If I still had people to play it with, I probably would. For people that are a fan of old school D&D/Baldur's Gate/Neverwinter Nights stile games, I'd suggest picking up Divintiy: Original Sin. It's super long, incredibly in-depth, and plays a lot like Final Fantasy Tactics and it's co-op! There's.. a lot more I could add here. I'm a huge RPG fan. But this is the stuff off the top of my head.

Aya is always willing to approach me and doesn't discriminate against people in RP I adore that aspect of her so very much!

I'm fairly certainly I said many posts above, if you weren't so rabidly foaming at the mouth to defend yourself, that I realize it isn't a harassment campaign. The media has however spun it as one, and it will forever be considered one regardless of how much you want it to be otherwise. I'm not going to sit and talk circles with you, so I'll respectfully bow out now that my point has been ever so painstakingly made.

https://medium.com/@cainejw/an-actual-statistical-analysis-of-gamergate-dfd809858f68 Nope <3 They hit the nail on the head! Thanks for that. It actually points out that, while Gamergate is about what you said it is (which I already stated above), the majority of the tweets are negative VS positive. Neutral tweets are simply people talking about it. If more people are being negative than are positive, and the rest are indifferent, I think that means that you're overshadowed by the negative. "Gamergate does not hate women. Gamergate does not hate men. Gamergate is pretty neutral in how they discuss manners. 91% of identified tweets from Newsweek are neutral to men and women. And while Zennistrad may think a few tweets from his buddies saying, "This is bad statistics" makes for good statistics, they are wrong. Because the only difference between how Gamergate talks to men and women is that they engage women who are engaged with them more often. We're still supposed to believe Gamergate hates women because they dare to talk to women like they do men." Your own source seems to disagree with your opinion on Gamergate. Also, how can you positively say how someone is being corrupt and unethical? Those are negative topics by default. I don't know if you realize this, but neutral tweets don't mean that they're for or against a topic. It just means it's being discussed.

https://medium.com/@cainejw/an-actual-statistical-analysis-of-gamergate-dfd809858f68 Nope <3 They hit the nail on the head! Thanks for that. It actually points out that, while Gamergate is about what you said it is (which I already stated above), the majority of the tweets are negative VS positive. Neutral tweets are simply people talking about it. If more people are being negative than are positive, and the rest are indifferent, I think that means that you're overshadowed by the negative. I think in the attempt to justify yourself, you failed to recognize that she's making light of the word itself. How can you, as a group, be so lazy to not just change your name? And then expect other people on the outside look in and try to figure out who's right and who's wrong? As a friend recently said to me: "If I was a fan of crips and blood attire and then found out that's the shit they're into, I'ma stop wearing it." I'll help start you off: Journalismgate. Reviewergate. Ethicsgate. Writinggate. Journalismgate - What kind of journalism? Reviewergate - What kind of reviewers? Ethicsgate - Ethics? Ethics in what? Writinggate - Writing? What kind of writing? Gamergate - Hey... this is about video games, and the -gate suffix probably means that it's about corruption and some kind of cover-up! Now you're just being sad lol. I could easily say your argument for "Gamergate" is "OH GOD WHAT ABOUT GAMES?" I actually agreed with what you had to say, Warren. There are definite problems. A bunch of unknowns behind a tag with a bunch of harassing unknowns isn't going to solve it, either.

I think in the attempt to justify yourself, you failed to recognize that she's making light of the word itself. How can you, as a group, be so lazy to not just change your name? And then expect other people on the outside look in and try to figure out who's right and who's wrong? As a friend recently said to me: "If I was a fan of crips and blood attire and then found out that's the shit they're into, I'ma stop wearing it." I'll help start you off: Journalismgate. Reviewergate. Ethicsgate. Writinggate.

https://medium.com/@cainejw/an-actual-statistical-analysis-of-gamergate-dfd809858f68 Nope <3

The problem you fail to see is that it's the other way around. Those people make up the majority of Gamergate, and that's the problem with using a hashtag as your calling card. Anyone--and thousands have already done it--can write an angry tweet and #Gamergate it. It is, and always will be, the problem with having some sort of movement without a definitive leader/speaker. Anonymous faces the same thing. They have people that actually target and try to help the citizens of the world out, and then they have assholes that tarnish their name and do it "for the lulz." It becomes a major issue when these people outnumber the ones meaning to do some good (however trivial I personally feel it may be). As I posted above, I don't see the problem with distancing yourselves from the Gamergate hashtag and trying something else. The movement is over. It's dead, at least under that tag. Major news and media outlets have already associated it with misogynistic assholes, and as we've already established, the majority of the typical populace are generally unable to come up with their own opinion on something aside from what they hear in said media. Find a new hashtag/callsign, pick someone/something that you can unify under that is able to give some sort of quantifiable response and cast out the pricks that will inevitably form under the banner, and try again. This guy says a good bit about it, actually. A long time ago, and I agree 100% with the video:

Pretty much, this. It's never going to be about ethics in gaming journalism, because the vocal majority hijacked it and decided instead to attack women. If people want to defend gaming journalism, pick a new hashtag. I don't see how that's so hard lol.

So the guy doesn't like the game because of that. You're asking a reviewer to give his opinion on a game. He does that. What's the problem? I will admit that, personally, if the person knows the person that made the game, they shouldn't be the one to review it. I'm not saying you're wrong in that. But I will say that one review out of the many out there isn't going to change anything. You act like this kind of stuff ONLY happens in gaming journalism, and you're ignorant to think so. It happens when people get invited to free sports games. It happens when people get invited to eat free five star meals. It happens when people get invited to free hotels. If companies fire reviewers for giving their truthful opinion, then honestly they shouldn't work for that company to begin with. I wouldn't. And when I want to review a game, you'd best believe I'm going to give my honest opinion on it. Friends close to me know I have zero problems dictating how much I dislike a game, and precisely for what reasons regardless of how popular or mainstream it is. At no point did I say that it was okay. What I more or less highlighted is that if you're seriously trying to remove the corruption in journalism, you're fighting a losing battle. We're given the ability of choice and intelligence to use it. Where humans are involved, as well as money and businesses, there will always be corruption. That's not going to go away regardless of how much you fight it. Someone mentioned earlier that Nintendo Power was corrupt back in the day, and it certainly was. Every gaming magazine will pick and choose what it likes the most. Every reporter will review things they enjoy the most. Everyone is influenced by something. In the end, a review is just an opinion. And if you honestly take that opinion as seriously as you seem to be doing so? Then there really is no help.

1.) This link is reddit being reddit. Out of context, there isn't much to say for or against this link. If they'd already put up the statement that Gamergate shouldn't be talked about, then yeah, they can shadowban people left and right. 2.) I don't know why these people jumped down their throat. He's right. The internet is forever, and anything that is said on it should be considered with rational thought rather than jumping at someone because of a difference of opinion. Ironic, isn't it? 3.) Same as Reddit. Obviously it was a banned URL and something that they didn't want to have to deal with again. Rules are rules. 4.) I already covered this in my long-winded response previously. I still don't see the point you're trying to make. So what if they hung out together? It's one review. Gone Home received a TON of reviews that both said it was great and horrid. Why focus on one that gave it a 10 when there's others? 5.) All I see is another example of someone not wanting to deal with this crap anymore. Quinn got death threat after death threat after death threat. Why would they risk the same? 6.) Yes, because only one side does things like that. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzoKKRqIMAA8kaf.png You're going to find pricks on both sides of the movement like that. That woman actually had to leave her house because her address was posted online and people talked about going to find and rape her and kill her family.

It really isn't lol. I think the mods of this forum have been perfectly fine in censoring some of the things they've censored/blocked discussion of in the past, as I think other things are fine too. Some people simply don't want to have to put up with the inevitable fallout of the discussion.

Doesn't this kind of go both ways? Also, game developers have been sending reviewers and media swag for years. People getting pissed about it now is kind of.. well. Late, don't you think? And this would all be solved if a bunch of neckbeards would stop getting their jimmies rustled because someone's opinion differs from theirs. The consumers give the media their power. Instead of fussing about X outlet, why don't they instead just preach that they're ultimately opinions and shouldn't sway anyone? Not to mention a lot of their motives are counterproductive. And honestly? This is video game reviews. If people are so seriously concerned about ethics, why don't they move to industries that matter and actually effect the world/economy/environment itself? A quick google search is all they need to get started. I swear, if people were as adamant about protesting that as they are "ethical opinions" then maybe things would get done. EDIT: As an example of how silly their argument is, I'll give my opinion. I hate Grand Theft Auto. I've never liked it. Well, I take that back. I did when I was in high school. Then I sort of grew up and decided that I didn't really like that kind of game. Strangely enough, I really enjoy Saint's Row. I think it's because Saint's Row is incredibly ridiculous and doesn't try to be this serious thing. GTA flips back and forth between being satire and serious, and that just doesn't mesh well with me. It could also be because I work retail in a gaming store and the type of people that come in to purchase it really annoy me, but hey. That's life. So let's say I write a negative review about GTA VI on a gaming site (I used to do that, too), and let's say that people get pissed and try to get me fired because of said review. Childish, don't you think? In expressing my personal thoughts on a game that I feel is flawed in its execution, which is what a review is (they do that with food and cars and.. well, anything really, but you don't see ethical "activists" pissed about that), people suddenly want me to lose my job. As silly as that sounds, let's say I write a positive review about a game that is largely hated. Let's say that, for some unknown reason, I REALLY liked The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct. I thought it was absolutely amazing. Let's say Activision/AMC decided to send me a bunch of stuff for it. I got seasons for free, I got some figures, whatever. This.. well. This happens lol. And really, it doesn't change anything from above. In the end, it's still my opinion. Let's say I'm good friends with an indie developer and he's designing a game that I want to do well. I write a review painting it in a good light, even if I don't think it's really the BEST thing out there: 1.) There's still a ton of other sources out there. Like the news/any media, anyone that reads one thing online and takes it at face value is an idiot. 2.) Again, despite the stance on things, it's still an opinion. I don't read reviews and say "Hey, that guy liked it so it has to be good." I read reviews and pick out the points they say about the game, watch videos on Youtube, check out the developer, etc. If it's a dev I know and like, then I'll probably purchase from them (CD Projekt will pretty much always get my business). If not, then I won't. For that matter, what about the developer docs? The people working on the game in the videos that state how amazing it is/going to be? If they're working on a game and realize it's horrid, are they not morally and ethically inclined to simply say "Hey, this game sucks lol sorry guys don't buy it." What about review embargos? The industry has a lot going wrong with it, but targeting people giving opinions isn't going to solve anything and it makes people look like children. My boss once told me, when reviewing a bad game, "And to think, someone was sitting around a conference room and said 'Guys. This game is AMAZING.'" I laughed it off, but yeah. Someone, somewhere, probably did. And that's okay. It's even more okay for someone to write about it, and get paid for it if they feel that way, even if you don't like it.

Gamergate is still a thing? I thought it was already written off as some pathetic movement to harass women disguised as seeking "justice" in journalism or something. I don't get the problem. When someone reads a review, they're reading an opinion. It's not their fault that other consumers/gamers see that opinion and decide to piggyback and not buy the game. It's the consumer's responsibility to see the review, pick out the things they feel are arbitrary to them, and be done with it. Someone doesn't like a game because it shows women in bikinis? If that's not a problem, then ignore that part of the review. Someone thinks the controls sucked? Maybe the consumer thought they were fine. At this point, I feel reviews should simply be titled as "opinions" and maybe then people won't get their feelings hurt when someone says they don't like something. But.. I highly doubt it.

Val has killed people. He doesn't feel the slightest bothered by it. In fact, it's how he feels one should deal with problems. If they're a big enough issue, get rid of them. He won't kill a person that bumps into him, but he doesn't rule it out as an option if someone is attempting to harm him or someone he holds dear. He's also pretty promiscuous and has had a lot of unwed intercourse and all that, convinced wives/girlfriends to cheat on their spouses/significant others, etc. Melfice, on the other hand, has also murdered. He isn't bothered by it, but he feels differently than Val. Val feels as if their deaths are justified because they tried to slight him. Melfice feels their deaths are justified because they are lesser beings than him, and most of the time their deaths were for some purpose beyond their otherwise mundane existence (For science!). He's experimented on people, left them disfigured and deformed, and toyed with others simply to gauge what reaction it may have on their lives--including those he supposedly loves. He has also raped someone before, and while he likes to pretend to be apologetic about it, he's really not. It was a means to an end, and a way to teach someone a lesson the only way he knew how they'd listen. Cyrus.. his ideal of a sin is looking at a woman's cleavage. He's far too nice. He doesn't steal, doesn't say "bad" words, and tries to keep himself sin-free. Vallois has also murdered, but unlike Val or Melfice, he does so because he was paid for it. He's a mercenary, and if someone requires being killed, he'll do it so long as the pay is decent enough.

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