LadyRochester

Been listening to The Prodigy for 15 years now, since my father would blast these guys on the speakers when I was a kid. Lucky for me, they made a comeback this year. <3 h1AaKBbNGkk

Here's an actual confession instead of a rant from me (for once.) I'm too much of a pussy to tell people when their characters/rp is too boring for me, so I stick it out and whine in my head until it's over. If this becomes a common occurrence, I slowly begin to ignore them more and more until I fade completely and they just.. Stop messaging me or requesting RP. I don't want to offend people so I do this more than I'm proud to admit...

Wait, so where are the contest winners? I feel a little underwhelmed, to be honest.

LOL,go ahead and tell a Boer Farmer in South Africa how lucky and "privileged" they are to be white. I'm sure they'll 100% agree with this list.

I'm a Latin American girl and I scored 73/100... B-but.. This is impossible. I-I'm a woman... AND Latin American. I'm oppressed! I'm a victim! W-what is this sorcery!?

Hello! Pleasure to meet you! There are loads of scholars around, my character included, I even have an IC research log you can check out for lore. What topics does your character usually research? Science? Magic? History? All three?

As long as Aaron doesn't spend his nights lifting weights, crying, and listening to creed, they'll-- Actually, no, Aaron might hate her two-faced nature THOUGH IT COULD BE FUN!

Hey, I wish you good luck finding this, as you said, it's rather specific. It's usually a better idea to pre-plan RP with a close friend when it comes to such specific RP, however, I do not see it as an impossibility. If nobody responds, you can also make an alt to play the antagonist yourself and have interactions between them happen off-screen, that's what I did, anyway. This can potentially open more doors for people who want to play antagonists who don't quite match up to your description, but would do something if his cousin were to hire someone. I know a myriad of players play antagonistic characters, so it wouldn't be unrealistic to treat it as if they were hired to cause trouble. Just my two cents, good luck.

The thing is, you do that. Your RPC description makes it clear that players are meant to find Sasha Rochester both intelligent and physically attractive. Phrases like "blessed with a chest size and hips she adores to flaunt" make it clear that you believe your character to be, to put it academically, stacked like a brickhouse and attractive for it, and if people started reacting to your description as if she were flat as a board both ways and making a fool of herself for acting otherwise, I think you would be rather cross about it. Unless "blessed" is meant to suggest flatness is the attractive trait in Eorzea? The description is quite vague that way. Likewise, acting as if there are wildly different definitions of attractiveness within the general body of roleplayers, such that one can't use vague descriptors like "beautiful" and not give people a pretty clear idea of what is going on with your character's looks, feels willfully obtuse rather than spiteful, as if you are ignoring that while there can be very broad ranges of difference in how people view certain appearances, there is still generally some common ground because of culturally received definitions of beauty. It's not as if players have such wildly divergent definitions of beauty that no one person can really understand what the other's is, with one player demanding nipples all over the face and the other demanding hair of cheese in order for looks to matter. But you're right - sometimes it's not spiteful, sometimes it's just dense. Anyway, speaking of "show don't tell," you will find if you look through your description that about half of it contains adjectives that rely on culturally received definitions of what your character might look like - "elegant," "feminine," "provocatively," so forth. It's all pretty telly, and I'd like to see a more objective description provided before you go making aspersions about vague characterization. Speck in the eye and plank in one's own and such. I have not edited her physical description in months, all I have worked on are relationships, but now that you point it out, I can perfectly change it. By "elegant" I mean generally expensive, richly colored, well-fitted and almost aristocratic clothing. It's not difficult for people to comprehend that. Now, by "Femenine" I mean classically femenine traits, in Eorzea there has never been any implication that they differed culturally as to what they considered feminine to what we do in this world ("Girly" clothing such as skirts, dresses, sparkling accessories and the like). "Provocative" implies clothing that is somewhat revealing, something that does not really vary unless the concept of "provocative" to some is showing ankles. You can claim femininity, provocativeness, and elegance are subjective, but they really are not when it comes to building an idea based on Japanese/Western norms, which truthfully don't vary much. "Beautiful" or "Ugly" deal with a wider spectrum. You can't deny that. People might find "Elegance", "femininity", and "Provocative" clothing unattractive, as they signify more specific traits than simply "Beautiful". I had people roleplay as if my character looked like a horse, and while I might disagree OOC, I'm not going to cry about it, and I am not going to force their character to find mine beautiful because I disagree. It's their choice, their taste, it's up to them. I can mention that she's "generously endowed", but that implies she has gigantic breasts, which she does not, and mentioning her cup size and her exact measurements seems like something someone would do to attract the wrong kind of roleplayers.

I'm a fairly new roleplayer myself, and I am far from perfect. However, my point stands, whether it is used with raw language or more "pretty" words. Expecting others to cater to you IS inconsiderate and lazy. This is not only how roleplay works, but also how life works. If you're hardly putting forth any effort, you shouldn't expect others to fall to their knees for you. The reality is, if there is nos substance to your character, there will be no substance to your roleplay. I can't put it in nicer terms than this. When I first started in RP, I made a lot of Rookie mistakes I wish people had poined out to me instead of having to sit down and have to figure it out myself, to this day, I cringe at some of the posts I made. Mind you, I started RPing little over a year ago. Granted, some people are not as open to criticism, and I do apologize for the language I used, my intention was not to harm or discourage other roleplayers from experimenting with styles. Ultimately, it's their choice as to how they roleplay.

It depends on what you mean by "special". Based on the fact the character can take care of themselves, I wouldn't say their mental disability is overly-crippling, and I honestly do not mind people roleplaying these types of characters as long as they are realistic about it. However, you must know that you might step on some toes. The RP community is the tumblr of story-telling and videogames. If people can get offended about it, they probably will. That said, as long as this "disability" isn't all there is to your character, you should be fine. Make sure to give them a personality and depth.

Except that it's not. Mental faculties are far less open to subjectivity than beauty. However, I am not going to argue about intelligence again, this is not the thread for it. And yes, I do mean "ugly" characters as well. I saw a roleplayer once say their character was "ugly"without giving much context as to why, in fact, in game, they looked better looking than average. When I sent them a /tell asking why they considered their character "ugly", they basically responded "he has tiny eyes and a biggish nose." Features that to me, and to people in general, are not enough to make a character "ugly". I am not treating a character as if they were unattractive when they are hardly described as such, and all you get is an "He's ugly" description. Claiming subjectivity regarding positive traits is the only one that is truly problematic is frankly idiotic. Not every roleplayer that points this out is a bitter little shit. Same thing goes for "good" and "evil" characters. I had roleplayers tell me their characters are incredibly evil when their actions are considered mildly questionable at best. Then get annoyed if my character doesn't act terrorized/intimidated by them. Is "evil" a positive trait now? I speak of lazy description when people force their views upon others without truly baking up their claims. When they expect special treatment because their characters are "ugly" or "beautiful" without backing it up. If something is subjective, regardless of it being positive or negative, a roelplayer should not expect others to bend backwards to cater to their beliefs. It's stupidly inconsiderate and lazy. That's like me saying "Sasha Rochester is the ugliest, bitchiest, stupidest person in Eorzea! She also smells!" I can say it all I want, but if I gent angry when other roleplyers don't agree, I'm probably a bloody idiot. After all, roleplay is more about "show, don't tell." and being so vague with description makes your roleplay seem flat and boring.

Well, to you. However, would you roleplay your character as finding them unattractive or not? Even if she is described as having those features, but also described as being "ugly". Would you make your character follow your/their beauty standards or the other roleplayer's?

Fair enough.

This is simply a rhetorical question! What if you say that, but most of the role players they surround themselves with disagree? What if I describe my character as "repulsive" and then describe her as having flawless skin, bright blue eyes, plump lips, a symmetrical face, high cheekbones, with silky, long hair, etc. You know, "classically" attractive things... And then most of the audience sees them as beautiful instead? Could that statement still be supported, even when ICly it has been disproved? If its a rhetorical question, then you do not require an answer which defeats the purpose of asking for a discussion. I suppose it was more of a statement to defend my position, but take back the rhetorical part, what then? What if you say that, but most of the role players they surround themselves with disagree? What if I describe my character as "repulsive" and then describe her as having flawless skin, bright blue eyes, plump lips, a symmetrical face, high cheekbones, with silky, long hair, etc. You know, "classically" attractive things... And then most of the audience sees them as beautiful instead?

In that case, wouldn't you simply describe her as boyish-looking with harsh, masculine features and a strong build? Instead of simply saying "Oh, she's unattractive."

This is simply a rhetorical question! What if you say that, but most of the role players they surround themselves with disagree? What if I describe my character as "repulsive" and then describe her as having flawless skin, bright blue eyes, plump lips, a symmetrical face, high cheekbones, with silky, long hair, etc. You know, "classically" attractive things... And then most of the audience sees them as beautiful instead? Could that statement still be supported, even when ICly it has been disproved?

I usually stick to my character's appearance in-game. Even in my RPC wiki, I'm pretty much describing the in-game model. Only difference is perhaps the body. I don't describe her as beautiful though, to me, that's up to others. This might be lazy, but it makes it easier for others. I have roleplayed "ugly" characters before where I had to extensively describe their commonly "unattractive" features. If people at one point actually found those features attractive, well, it was up to them. I didn't explicitly say they were ugly (Unless I was expressing my opinion OOC), as I was under the assumption most people would consider those features unattractive anyway. I'm not necessarily bothered by people with "lazy" descriptions, more people who just simply put their characters under the "ugly/beautiful" category without giving any clues when there are too many variables to take into account.

Mind you, this applies both to "Ugly" and "Beautiful" characters. I start this thread because a lot of people, instead of describing their character's feaures to an extent, simply go: "Sasha Rochester is very beautiful." Isn't beauty subjective? What if you find Sasha Rochester ugly? Should your character pretend she's drop-dead gorgeous because it says on her RPC wiki "She's beautiful."? Same thing applies to ugly characters. If I'm a roleplayer and don't really describe my character's physical appearance, and then just go "Oh, he's ugly." Is he? What if I like the way he looks? Even better, what if you describe your character as "Morbidly obese, hairy, with a lazy eye, and a balding head with green hair", and it just so happens I find those features beautiful? Wouldn't that throw the "My character is ugly" argument out the window? In essence, is the beauty of the character truly judged by the player themselves or the audience? If someone makes a character everyone considers ugly, except themselves, should they really lazily describe themselves as "beautiful"? Should they get upset when other characters don't act with praise towards their appearance? Keep the discussion respectful and with no personal insults.

This made me giggle. I'm a grown-up and I laugh at grown-up things.

Here goes mine.

I don't know if someone said this before, but here goes: While an intersex character could be interesting to roleplay due to their constant emotional battles, you must be made aware of the fact that due to the fetishization of hermaphrodites, people might approach your character for the wrong reasons. Additionally, making a character that constantly deals with such inner emotional battles can be difficult to rp, as either: a) When you RP, your character is too emotionally vulnerable to really talk to anyone b) If your character DOES talk about their emotions, especially about such a big insecurity as this, people might be rubbed the wrong way and may interpret it as attention-seeking. I did the former, where my character was going through an emotional turmoil (Still is) and due to this, she became withdrawn and distant, something that for others might become challenging to interact with when they seek a deeper connection with your character. You also have to be careful with not making your character one-dimensional, as in, don't make the fact they have different genitals ALL there is to them, when you constantly bring it up IC or OOC, people start thinking that there's not much to your character except the fact they have boobs and a penis. That said, my point is: Yes, I would definitely say an intersex character would be accepted by the community (I wouldn't mind rping with one either) But you have to have an extremely careful approach.

Originally posted by robins-love-slave on tumblr. What are your answers?

While the idea is extremely interesting, you must understand that the community may not accept it as a whole, due to the fact some people might consider it slightly Mary-Sueish (and before anyone says I'm lying: Please don't try to bullshit them. Some people DO avoid roleplaying with characters like this. Denying it doesn't help OP.) I have no qualms with most character ideas, it's lore-bending, but not breaking. It's completely possible Allagans built humanoid robots. I personally only have a problem with people who are demi-gods ("I AM THE INCARNATION OF BAHAMUT AND I IDENTIFY AS GARUDA-KIN!!1!") So while I personally wouldn't mind rping with you (So long as you don't make your character overly OP or overbearing to other people's RP) Some people are more into the gritty-hyper-realitic rp and might avoid you for this. Take it was a warning.

"I have never seen such a lovely blacksmith. And she can fight, too! I'm impressed." Seriously, she's constantly surrounded by brutish-looking fighters, so seeing a pretty young woman fighting would likely inspire her. From your posts, I say they'd get along as friends--Though my character might come off as a tad uptight to yours.