Erik Mynhier Posted April 11, 2015 Share #26 Posted April 11, 2015 Soooooo...... since everyone most likely watched this trailer without thinking and saw the General disarmed and the Sultana poisoned..... can we drop the spoiler shit now? I mean we are all on the same page now yes? :lol: 1 Link to comment
Zyrusticae Posted April 11, 2015 Share #27 Posted April 11, 2015 Seeing all those scenes of dragoons flying every which-way and dropping from mid-air onto their targets pleases me so greatly. First because it answers the question of how efficacious dragoon jump can actually be in battle (re: extremely), secondly because it shows that the crazy acrobatics and supernatural powers are most definitely not even close to being limited to Midlander and his WoL companions (though granted, Raubhan's fight against Ilbern itself already proved this). Thus I will smugly sit right here and say "I told you so" a million times, because seriously it was so silly that anyone was even questioning this in the first place. It's Final Fantasy, man! That's just how things work 'round these parts. Link to comment
allgivenover Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share #28 Posted April 11, 2015 I think Raubahn's hair is just lighting. Or a ton of stress. Link to comment
Wymsical Posted April 11, 2015 Share #29 Posted April 11, 2015 Nice to see incredible jumping powers used from non-WoL people. I've always been of the opinion that with aether being what it is, that plenty of clever or determined individuals (especially adventurers?) have the potential to learn some very flashy skills/magic. My personal favorite part of the trailer was actually that first little snippet of Ishgard, with the civilians and soldiers just moving about. It was very brief but I liked the subtly implied tone of the people's lives. There was a certain air to it that was a little different from what we've seen of Eorzea so far (or I'm massively extrapolating, that's possible too). I'm very interested to see how Heavensward's general 'mood' is. Link to comment
allgivenover Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share #30 Posted April 11, 2015 At this point it's beyond doubt for me that aether powers physical capability. Link to comment
Telluride Posted April 11, 2015 Share #31 Posted April 11, 2015 That opening singer... jeez, lady, you can hit the high notes, but please stop doing so.... Every other single thing in this vid, though... my god, the WIN Does..Not...Stop. 1 Link to comment
allgivenover Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share #32 Posted April 11, 2015 Someone isn't fond of opera vocals. Link to comment
Hyakki Posted April 11, 2015 Share #33 Posted April 11, 2015 Seeing all those scenes of dragoons flying every which-way and dropping from mid-air onto their targets pleases me so greatly. First because it answers the question of how efficacious dragoon jump can actually be in battle (re: extremely), secondly because it shows that the crazy acrobatics and supernatural powers are most definitely not even close to being limited to Midlander and his WoL companions (though granted, Raubhan's fight against Ilbern itself already proved this). Thus I will smugly sit right here and say "I told you so" a million times, because seriously it was so silly that anyone was even questioning this in the first place. It's Final Fantasy, man! That's just how things work 'round these parts. When its an ordinary farmer doing crazy acrobatics with a flaming pitchfork, I will accept that the WoL and Ilbred's abilities are something anyone can do. Until then, I keep my belief that such feats are achieved through luck, supernatural means, or years of dedicated study and training, not something the average nobody just picked up (those dragoons being the best of the best, not low- ranking footsoldiers) 1 Link to comment
ShoggMommy Posted April 11, 2015 Share #34 Posted April 11, 2015 Really awesome. Makes me even more excited. I personally love the vocals/opera. Link to comment
ChewableMorphine Posted April 11, 2015 Share #35 Posted April 11, 2015 Derplander confirmed Guts cosplayer DRGs confirmed to look cool in video but still terrible in game Lalafell confirmed for devilspawn Ishgard confirmed for likely replacing Ul'Dah And for those who saw the teaser for the new classes, they all look wicked. EDIT: Nope it's just NIN being cool z3I_xgPqWxQ Link to comment
LystAP Posted April 11, 2015 Share #36 Posted April 11, 2015 The second half vocals are in the Dragon language they made for FFXIV, correct? And we get to see Nanamo die again. :cry: Link to comment
Chris Ganale Posted April 11, 2015 Share #37 Posted April 11, 2015 I'm with Telluride, though. The teaser's vocals were much lower-pitched and sounded better. Link to comment
Dravus Posted April 11, 2015 Share #38 Posted April 11, 2015 I was pretty excited already but this is just brilliant. I like the part where the Warrior of Light looks out of a window in Ishgard and doves fly by - it's reminiscent of Garnet doing the same thing way back in FFIX in Alexandria. Link to comment
ChewableMorphine Posted April 11, 2015 Share #39 Posted April 11, 2015 And we get to see Nanamo die again. :cry: [align=center]In 1080p HD[/align] Link to comment
mongi291 Posted April 11, 2015 Share #40 Posted April 11, 2015 Hm. That Dark Knight... If it is lore-friendly, I'm sure as hell creating an IC DRK character. Link to comment
Harmonixer Posted April 11, 2015 Share #41 Posted April 11, 2015 I was pretty excited already but this is just brilliant. I like the part where the Warrior of Light looks out of a window in Ishgard and doves fly by - it's reminiscent of Garnet doing the same thing way back in FFIX in Alexandria. I was actually thinking the same thing. I've mentioned it before, but the new area reminds me a lot of Lindblum and areas from FFIX just in general. I'm completely okay with that! On the subject of dragoons, since I'm sure this topic is so fondly revisited- I'm starting to think it's less of a matter of whether it's possible or how likely it is. While some RPers prefer to have characters that aren't close of such feats, it shouldn't be completely frowned upon. I also don't think -everyone- should be that 'powerful'. As ever, it's a matter of presentation but I don't think it confirms that suddenly everyone can do it, otherwise they would, right? Clearly some factors are in place, but not nearly as unreachable as people make it out to be. Also, maybe it's just me that gets crazy amount of gray hairs when I'm stressed. If that chit happened to me and I lived through it, I doubt I'd look half as good as he did. DRK looks cool, I actually liked the AST more there though. Very excited to see them played more. I may even try to heal for once! Link to comment
Aaron Posted April 11, 2015 Share #42 Posted April 11, 2015 That DRK stance looks soooooooo badass! I will 60 that in 2 days. Tanking ftw. Link to comment
Kellach Woods Posted April 11, 2015 Share #43 Posted April 11, 2015 DRK stance reminds me of Siegfried's stance from 3B-Hold. Link to comment
Melkire Posted April 11, 2015 Share #44 Posted April 11, 2015 Heavensward: When Derplander Ditches Best Job for Worst Job (loved the opening, nothing will ever rival Bahamut+Answers but they did well) Link to comment
Askier Posted April 11, 2015 Share #45 Posted April 11, 2015 I didn't see a single shot of a mechanist....... soooooo over this video already cause of that. >.< lol Link to comment
Melkire Posted April 11, 2015 Share #46 Posted April 11, 2015 I didn't see a single shot of a mechanist....... soooooo over this video already cause of that. >.< lol We didn't see Dark Knight or Astrologian either, to be fair. EDIT: !!!!!!! Link to comment
Tiergan Posted April 12, 2015 Share #47 Posted April 12, 2015 Seeing all those scenes of dragoons flying every which-way and dropping from mid-air onto their targets pleases me so greatly. First because it answers the question of how efficacious dragoon jump can actually be in battle (re: extremely), secondly because it shows that the crazy acrobatics and supernatural powers are most definitely not even close to being limited to Midlander and his WoL companions (though granted, Raubhan's fight against Ilbern itself already proved this). Thus I will smugly sit right here and say "I told you so" a million times, because seriously it was so silly that anyone was even questioning this in the first place. It's Final Fantasy, man! That's just how things work 'round these parts. When its an ordinary farmer doing crazy acrobatics with a flaming pitchfork, I will accept that the WoL and Ilbred's abilities are something anyone can do. Until then, I keep my belief that such feats are achieved through luck, supernatural means, or years of dedicated study and training, not something the average nobody just picked up (those dragoons being the best of the best, not low- ranking footsoldiers) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure if you and Zyrusticae are exactly in disagreement with each other? It seemed like Zyrusticae was not saying that *anyone* (like a merchant or a pig-farmer) could suddenly start doing crazy dragoon-jumps with little to no training - only that this video (and Raubahn/Ilberd's fight) show that zany acrobatics and superpowered abilities are not purely limited to Derplander and his WoL party. Any character that has undergone a logical amount of training could potentially do what Ilberd/Raubahn did or the dragoons have done in the video. So while an ordinary farmer might not be able to do crazy acrobatics - someone who has spent over a decade or more training in this form of combat might. Link to comment
Zyrusticae Posted April 12, 2015 Share #48 Posted April 12, 2015 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure if you and Zyrusticae are exactly in disagreement with each other? It seemed like Zyrusticae was not saying that *anyone* (like a merchant or a pig-farmer) could suddenly start doing crazy dragoon-jumps with little to no training - only that this video (and Raubahn/Ilberd's fight) show that zany acrobatics and superpowered abilities are not purely limited to Derplander and his WoL party. Any character that has undergone a logical amount of training could potentially do what Ilberd/Raubahn did or the dragoons have done in the video. So while an ordinary farmer might not be able to do crazy acrobatics - someone who has spent over a decade or more training in this form of combat might. Right, exactly. The contention was never whether or not an "average person" could match up to them. That's just silly, and to make such an assertion would be to imply an extremely flat power curve where training, luck, and skill matter for very little, so I don't even know why one would bring it up. Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing that implies that RPers are required to play said ordinary farmer or whatever, something I thought we already established long ago. There's nothing particularly prestigious or impressive or morally superior about limiting oneself in such a fashion. It's all in the execution, as I like to stress time and time again. My biggest bone was with the argument that the WoL and his companions were so clearly above and beyond everyone else and that even implying my character could be on their level makes me a "special snowflake", which is why the trailer and Raubahn vs Ilberd are so gratifying to me. No, I don't feel any particular guilt over not making my character an "average Jane", and I don't see any reason why I should limit myself in such a fashion, thank you very much. I would be grateful not to hear any such arguments levied my way in the future. 1 Link to comment
allgivenover Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share #49 Posted April 12, 2015 I was pretty excited already but this is just brilliant. I like the part where the Warrior of Light looks out of a window in Ishgard and doves fly by - it's reminiscent of Garnet doing the same thing way back in FFIX in Alexandria. They're geese, but yes I also was reminded of the Alexandria scene. No, I don't feel any particular guilt over not making my character an "average Jane", I did it for the better part of two years, but given the increasingly epic scale the story and setting is taking I'll be moving away from that. Link to comment
Seriphyn Posted April 12, 2015 Share #50 Posted April 12, 2015 No, I don't feel any particular guilt over not making my character an "average Jane", I did it for the better part of two years, but given the increasingly epic scale the story and setting is taking I'll be moving away from that. Same. For a long time I was playing Kale as one of the 'background Flames NPCs'...even dressing him like an NPC. He's part of the background, a Person, not a Character. But now (esp with my lovely Flame Elite armour that I've had before anyone else btw) I'm pushing him more towards being a PC, a Character, a Military Figure rather than just a Rank-and-File. A commander who arrives on chocoboback and the footsoldiers around react with a Masaka?! (rather than being one of the footsoldiers) Link to comment
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