Plausibility of Vampire RP

[ultima_weapon]

alright so hear me out im a huge fan of vampires and other supernatural beings and would like to come up with ways to rp in a lore friendly way and incorporate that into my character who's a hyur so here goes 

 

Origin of vampirism: My idea was the first vamp(s) to have been magic users who either forced an elemental into submission or maybe it was a mutual union to protect the environment (still working this part out or could use it as a distorted legend passed down over time) and the results of said union created something beyond human but still flesh and blood

 

Abilities: manipulation of nature/ aether in general so jobs would include whm/blm/nin/mnk/maybe pld tho with different applications of how the magic/abilities are used. all magic comes from casters body but since they're immortal it's not life threatening.

 

Feeding: Must consume external aether to replenish body. This can be done Cnj style and just take from the environment or for more practical and less primal-esque destructive means and drain a person's aether through their blood, the elementals would probably prefer second method since humans suck (no pun intended)

 

Weaknesses: Fire would be a huge one and things like sunlight would just be superstition encouraged by vamps to deceive the public and blend in

[Val]

Vampires absolutely do not exist in XIV lore. And that's.. pretty much it. There isn't really a way around it, and making up a race specifically to RP one just won't work. You're going to meet so much opposition that it's probably going to be more of a nuisance for you than fun. If you want to RP a vampire, I'd suggest going to an actual vampire-based RP. XIV isn't the place for it.

[Virella]

Blood does seem to hold aether, seeming in the MQS you need to gather some of the beasttribes, and turn it into a potion. If I remember correctly. So I guess drinking blood might have some aether, so it could make sense? I don't know, it sounds like more of a trouble then it's actual worth.

[Sebastian Taylor]

 

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[Flashhelix]

There's no real lore-friendly way to RP vampires because there's no such thing as vampires in XIV.

 

Origin of vampirism: My idea was the first vamp(s) to have been magic users who either forced an elemental into submission or maybe it was a mutual union to protect the environment (still working this part out or could use it as a distorted legend passed down over time) and the results of said union created something beyond human but still flesh and blood

 

I can't really see anybody forcing an elemental into submission. They're intangible, unknowable nature spirits that have complete control of the forest. How would an elemental turn somebody into a blood-sucking zombie weakened by sunlight? That doesn't really seem up their alley.

 

Abilities: manipulation of nature/ aether in general so jobs would include whm/blm/nin/mnk/maybe pld tho with different applications of how the magic/abilities are used. all magic comes from casters body but since they're immortal it's not life threatening.

 

This seems almost ludicrously overpowered.

 

Weaknesses: Fire would be a huge one and things like sunlight would just be superstition encouraged by vamps to deceive the public and blend in

 

So then they don't even have vampire weaknesses? And how exactly would there be a public superstition anyway if vampires don't exist in the world of FFXIV? There's no superstition because they're not there.

[ultima_weapon]

they dont exist as far as we kno 8-) until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

[Val]

they dont exist as far as we kno 8-) until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

 

In that case, I'm gonna RP a Saiyan as a monk. Can't say it doesn't exist 'cause it's a big world out there 8-)

[Oli!]

they dont exist as far as we kno 8-) until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

 

 

The problem with this sort of argument is that it justifies everything in the setting by its very nature. I could roleplay as Superman or get a group of friends to run around as the X-Men, because the setting does not explicitly say that they exist.

 

By that same token, the alternate of this argument is also true if you accept the reasoning of the first. There is nothing that explicitly says that they exist, therefore they do not.

[Flashhelix]

they dont exist as far as we kno 8-) until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

 

Yeah, no.

 

Auri were always there, Odin's backstory alludes to their existence. Plus you could use "it's a big world out there and we don't know" to roleplay literally anything, it's not a viable justification for playing something as out of left field as vampires let alone special aether-vampires that don't have vampire weaknesses.

[ultima_weapon]

they dont exist as far as we kno 8-) until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

 

In that case, I'm gonna RP a Saiyan as a monk. Can't say it doesn't exist 'cause it's a big world out there 8-)

not really much of a stretch when there's demons and gods running around. and hey why not maybe you were sent to hydaelyn as a baby lol

[Faye]

Hi there! First off, I want to say I like vampires. I really like vampires. I usually RP one if there's any plausibility. I have no shame in admitting this. That being said, I'm not RPing one in XIV, and the reason is that it's really not plausible. So far, we've seen no vampires in game nor even any reference to them afaik. The closest you might be able to role-play is a being from/tainted by the Void that must feed on aether (not blood), though sunlight doesn't seem to bother creatures from the Void.

 

Though you haven't mentioned anything about drinking blood and specified that the sunlight weakness would be a myth for your "vampires," so I have to ask, why exactly call them vampires at all? What are the downsides to all the benefits this template will give them? This isn't a canon thing, it's a thing you're making up and likely no one else will play one of these "vampires," so saying they're perpetuating rumors about their "weaknesses" seems silly. Why would they not just hide their existence altogether? Vampires aren't a thing in XIV, so as long as people are abiding by the lore, you're not going to run into characters who know what your character is and what the real world mythology for vampires is.

 

I also want to mention: Conjurers don't take from environment, they borrow the powers of the elementals.

 

I'm afraid I'd have to caution against trying to role-play a conventional, blood-sucking vampire, and the alternative you've laid out also seems best left alone unless you just want to take the route of playing a standard Void creature, which will still rub some people the wrong way. But that's my two cents; you do you!

 

not really much of a stretch when there's demons and gods running around. and hey why not maybe you were sent to hydaelyn as a baby lol

 

People are not role-playing their characters as demons and gods. I think that's the key point here. Heck, even in game, they are not just "running around" and the majority of the NPC's we see are fairly normal people.

[Caspar]

I mean, I suppose you could do it, if you wanted to. But there's no lore to support it, so it'd be 100% fanon. If it's fun for you, that's fine, but I wonder if you'd get enough players on board to make it really entertaining. In the past, when I played pen and paper games about vampires, the fun was mostly in their interactions with other clans of vampires. There are no vampires in FFXIV, so it'd really be a matter of getting a bunch of like-minded players to do vampire RP privately. But even so, like others have said, you might not find any because there's not much point in playing FFXIV for vampire RP when the setting doesn't support it in any way.

[Gargand]

they dont exist as far as we kno 8-) until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

 

In that case, I'm gonna RP a Saiyan as a monk. Can't say it doesn't exist 'cause it's a big world out there 8-)

not really much of a stretch when there's demons and gods running around. and hey why not maybe you were sent to hydaelyn as a baby lol

He makes a good point Val. I think he has you beat here.

[Val]

they dont exist as far as we kno 8-) until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

 

In that case, I'm gonna RP a Saiyan as a monk. Can't say it doesn't exist 'cause it's a big world out there 8-)

not really much of a stretch when there's demons and gods running around. and hey why not maybe you were sent to hydaelyn as a baby lol

He makes a good point Val. I think he has you beat here.

 

@#%$

[Val]

they dont exist as far as we kno 8-) until a few months ago there weren't scaly horned people with speculated demonic origin. plus its a big world out there

 

In that case, I'm gonna RP a Saiyan as a monk. Can't say it doesn't exist 'cause it's a big world out there 8-)

not really much of a stretch when there's demons and gods running around. and hey why not maybe you were sent to hydaelyn as a baby lol

 

The problem is that these demons and "gods" are just that--special god characters. The character you RP is not considered one of them. As everyone else has already stated, your argument doesn't really hold up. You of course are welcomed to do what you want, but be forewarned that most people will likely avoid/ignore the character the moment they find out what he/she is supposed to be.

[ultima_weapon]

Hi there! First off, I want to say I like vampires. I really like vampires. I usually RP one if there's any plausibility. I have no shame in admitting this. That being said, I'm not RPing one in XIV, and the reason is that it's really not plausible. So far, we've seen no vampires in game nor even any reference to them afaik. The closest you might be able to role-play is a being from/tainted by the Void that must feed on aether (not blood), though sunlight doesn't seem to bother creatures from the Void.

 

Though you haven't mentioned anything about drinking blood and specified that the sunlight weakness would be a myth for your "vampires," so I have to ask, why exactly call them vampires at all? What are the downsides to all the benefits this template will give them? This isn't a canon thing, it's a thing you're making up and likely no one else will play one of these "vampires," so saying they're perpetuating rumors about their "weaknesses" seems silly. Why would they not just hide their existence altogether? Vampires aren't a thing in XIV, so as long as people are abiding by the lore, you're not going to run into characters who know what your character is and what the real world mythology for vampires is.

 

I also want to mention: Conjurers don't take from environment, they borrow the powers of the elementals.

 

I'm afraid I'd have to caution against trying to role-play a conventional, blood-sucking vampire,

and the alternative you've laid out also seems best left alone unless you just want to take the route of playing a standard Void creature. But that's my two cents; you do you!

i thought they did take from the environment no? or at least borrow aether which is how it can b abused harmfully

[Flashhelix]

This thread is going places.

[Aaron]

I dont think Vampires were ever in any FF title tbh.

 

Closest thing we got was Vincent sleeping in a coffin.... And hes not even a Vampire.

 

Regardless ftr id like to say Werewolves are better.

[Val]

I dont think Vampires were ever in any FF title tbh.

 

Closest thing we got was Vincent sleeping in a coffin.... And hes not even a Vampire.

 

Regardless ftr id like to say Werewolves are better.

 

There are a couple of vampire-like classes in some FF games. A few even call them "vampires," but that's about it.

[ultima_weapon]

I dont think Vampires were ever in any FF title tbh.

 

Closest thing we got was Vincent sleeping in a coffin.... And hes not even a Vampire.

 

Regardless ftr id like to say Werewolves are better.

there was a vampire lord in the original final fantasy as well as the job in bravely default which acts like blue mage

[Verad]

It is a truth universally acknowledged that any roleplay community will resist, to the best of its ability, the inclusion of vampires if they are not explicitly and unambiguously described as existing in the setting.

 

I wish you luck, OP.

[Faye]

i thought they did take from the environment no? or at least borrow aether which is how it can b abused harmfully

 

THM takes from the environment, WHM borrows from the elementals. If a WHM does not pay proper respects to the elements and get their permission, the WHM will end up using their own life aether and, eventually, kill themselves.

[ultima_weapon]

It is a truth universally acknowledged that any roleplay community will resist, to the best of its ability, the inclusion of vampires if they are not explicitly and unambiguously described as existing in the setting.

 

I wish you luck, OP.

i hope in November the Void Ark opens and the mages inside try to drain us and we need culinarians to make dishes with garlic lol

[Aaron]

I stand corrected then!

 

In any case when you think about it, theres really no place for vampires in XIV. You see how Ishguard treated Au Ra the second they stepped in the city?

 

Vampires if they even did exist would probably be handled akin to Salem Witch Trials. Everyone dies until theres nothing left.

[FreelanceWizard]

I dont think Vampires were ever in any FF title tbh.

 

Vampires show up as undead monsters in several FF titles, but... yeah. I wouldn't really use that as a justification here, since it's not like FF4, for instance, had super-detailed lore justifying their existence. They wanted an undead monster with Bleed and Drain, so they made it a vampire.