Plausibility of Vampire RP

[Aaron]

In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.

 

90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.

 

Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.

 

But what do i know.

[Dravus]

Nobody is physically going to prevent anybody else from role-playing whatever they wish. I don't think we need to go through the same song and dance in every thread and lace every word with sugar and disclaimers to highlight that.

 

Now, one thing I'm very curious about is whether the creator of this thread is genuinely open to taking feedback into account or whether they've decided that they're going to go ahead with the idea no matter what advice is given. All too often we end up with a situation where a controversial idea is pitched, people highlight reasons as to why it wouldn't work/might need major improvements...and then it turns out that after multiple pages of back and forth debating the original poster simply latched onto those who agreed with their idea and ignored everything else.

im just looking for feedback and alternatives to how to incorporate my character's story. i liked the idea of manipulating nature spirits since it diverts from the usual pacts with demonic spirits as the origin or vampirism and the rp is mostly for me and my friends. i just wanted to see whats possible with magical creations based on what we know so far

 

A demonic pact, however, is the most 'lore friendly' route that you can exploit. Blood is often used as a source of power in demonic rituals within FFXIV. You could also simply go down the route of playing some sort of unhinged serial killer/cannibal who believes that by consuming the blood of their victims they'll gain vitality.

 

Ultimately you can do whatever you like, yet if you want to interact with the community as a whole - and I'd assume you do given that you're posting this here - then you'll ideally want to ensure that you take as few liberties as possible. People are much more willing to give a controversial character concept a chance if only a few liberties are taken and it comes off as plausible. Yet when the liberties stack up and become too numerous then a lot of people lose all patience/interest.

[ultima_weapon]

In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.

 

90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.

 

Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.

 

But what do i know.

i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol

[Val]

In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.

 

90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.

 

Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.

 

But what do i know.

i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol

 

That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

[Aaron]

In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.

 

90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.

 

Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.

 

But what do i know.

i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol

If that's the case my friend all i can say is do the best you can.

 

If anything im hoping people dont outright ignore your character. I believe everything deserves at the least a sliver of a benefit of the doubt to see if its fun. But not everyone thinks like me.

[ultima_weapon]

i'd also like to point out that Thancred has been in Ul'dah for 20 years and hasnt aged a day based on flash backs lol someone get the holy water

[Caspar]

i put fire and their primary weakness. and i guess the usual decapitation and stake to the heart shouldve included that oops. didnt wanna put sunlight as a weakness since that had more to do with religious superstition since sun is holy and vamps are "unholy" along with crosses etc etc

All that jazz about holy water, sunlight, and the cross, that's just silly superstition!  We'll stick to stakes, decapitation, and fire, and maybe the whole sleeping in the soil of their homeland thing.

Excuse me. The most important vampire weakness is clearly needing to count every bean thrown in front of them. It's just not appropriate to vampire lore otherwise!!!

 

It's a little known fact that this is at least one part an accurate portrayal of a vampire.

 

 

You could play him.

[ultima_weapon]

In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.

 

90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.

 

Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.

 

But what do i know.

i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol

 

That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

[ultima_weapon]

i put fire and their primary weakness. and i guess the usual decapitation and stake to the heart shouldve included that oops. didnt wanna put sunlight as a weakness since that had more to do with religious superstition since sun is holy and vamps are "unholy" along with crosses etc etc

All that jazz about holy water, sunlight, and the cross, that's just silly superstition!  We'll stick to stakes, decapitation, and fire, and maybe the whole sleeping in the soil of their homeland thing.

Excuse me. The most important vampire weakness is clearly needing to count every bean thrown in front of them. It's just not appropriate to vampire lore otherwise!!!

soooo essentially the compulsion to do every moogle fetch quest? THE BEANS

[Val]

In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.

 

90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.

 

Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.

 

But what do i know.

i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol

 

That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

 

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

[ultima_weapon]

In short your feedback is it's not a good idea.

 

90% of your rp would be you getting barraged with questions on how youre a vampire when vampires dont exist.

 

Which tbh i don't think IC anyone would know vampire don't exist or exist because its not one of those common sense topics.

 

But what do i know.

i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol

 

That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

 

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

[ultima_weapon]

i put fire and their primary weakness. and i guess the usual decapitation and stake to the heart shouldve included that oops. didnt wanna put sunlight as a weakness since that had more to do with religious superstition since sun is holy and vamps are "unholy" along with crosses etc etc

All that jazz about holy water, sunlight, and the cross, that's just silly superstition!  We'll stick to stakes, decapitation, and fire, and maybe the whole sleeping in the soil of their homeland thing.

Excuse me. The most important vampire weakness is clearly needing to count every bean thrown in front of them. It's just not appropriate to vampire lore otherwise!!!

 

It's a little known fact that this is at least one part an accurate portrayal of a vampire.

 

 

You could play him.

dat count chocula tho lol im dead now. congrats u created the undead lmao

[Aaron]

i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol

 

That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

 

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

[ProvaDiServo]

 

That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

 

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

 

I consider rafflesia to be very sinful.

[Caspar]

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

That's actually a good point though. How would the term show up if there was no creature named "vampire" in the world? Is the vampire plant the only thing to have the name? If so, were vampires to show up in the lore, would they be named after the plant?

 

I'm clearly overthinking this. I should be farming eso.

[Val]

i think thats the point lol im not gonna shout hey im a vamp love me to everyone i see its more of the plausibility of a what if situation. if they existed how would it be implemented? in real life myth they're descended from demons or Cain himself, anime has them without usual weaknesses like in A Certain Magical Index so i wanna see how it could work in ff14. Dracula also means son of the dragon so could there be a connection to dragons if we were to change the lore around? thats what im mostly looking for. story ideas and exploring lore not outright stamping it out lol

 

That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

 

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

 

Just because the reference is there doesn't mean that the creatures exist. The same could be said about any item/event/whatever they've done. Vampire is just a word. The creature it's tied to doesn't have to exist for it to be used.

[ultima_weapon]

 

That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

 

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

neither are all vampires in different lore. in A Certain Magical Index they are magical beings descended from Cain who are the same as humans but with greater magical potential and mages steal their hearts to create weapons since they dont stop beating and essentially provide infinite power. among other examples

[ultima_weapon]

 

That's the problem. You can't/shouldn't change the lore around to suit your needs. You can bend it, but this bending should be very graceful. The dragons in the game are not your typical dragons of lore and should not be viewed as such.

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

 

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

and not all vamps r evil das racist bruh lol in vampire diaries they were created with a nature spell too.

[ultima_weapon]

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

That's actually a good point though. How would the term show up if there was no creature named "vampire" in the world? Is the vampire plant the only thing to have the name? If so, were vampires to show up in the lore, would they be named after the plant?

 

I'm clearly overthinking this. I should be farming eso.

the eso isnt going anywhere lol one expert roulette a day keeps the grind away till 3.1 in two months

[Aaron]

how else could i bend it tho? thats why i wanted the first ones to be a nature spirit in a human body that was the progenitor of it. and it doesnt have to be dragons i was merely illustrating the many interpretations beyond vampires being demonic in origin. hell in True Blood God is believed to be a vampire lol hydaelyn has some explaining to do

 

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

neither are all vampires in different lore. in A Certain Magical Index they are magical beings descended from Cain who are the same as humans but with greater magical potential and mages steal their hearts to create weapons since they dont stop beating and essentially provide infinite power. among other examples

Yes but the term vampire isnt necessarily tied to your version as Val said.

 

It could be something created to ascertain that specific plant.

 

Pretty sure leopards werent called leopards because of something already existing.

[Teadrinker]

and not all vamps r evil das racist bruh lol in vampire diaries they were created with a nature spell too.

 

:frustrated:

 

Guys, this guys character's last name is Swan. He's just looking for vampire RP period. He's not gonna listen to any logical or cohesive facts about lore. Just leave him/her be.

 

OP you really shouldn't ask if your idea is lore compliant and then hilariously disregard the facts given to you. It's pretty obv trolling.

 

WTB thread lock.

[ultima_weapon]

 

That's what we're trying to tell you. In XIV lore, it just isn't plausible to RP a natural/traditional vampire. There are alternatives that people have suggested that work more or less like one, but you would need to be willing to drop the term "vampire" and just RP a dude that eats aether.

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

neither are all vampires in different lore. in A Certain Magical Index they are magical beings descended from Cain who are the same as humans but with greater magical potential and mages steal their hearts to create weapons since they dont stop beating and essentially provide infinite power. among other examples

Yes but the term vampire isnt necessarily tied to your version as Val said.

 

It could be something created to ascertain that specific plant.

 

Pretty sure leopards werent called leopards because of something already existing.

well the word leopard comes from greek and latin roots meaning lion + panther since it was believed to be a hybrid species, which it isnt but the name stuck. so literally it means panther-lion. so yes they were called leopards based on something already existing lol

[Candor]

So this thread blew up fast. Holy hell, people. Guy just asked about some vampires.

 

So, it's pretty clear people like vampires, and the OP would like to play one. To him I say, play one. Treat it as a super special awesome chocolately covered extra rare secret though. Like the sort of secret that no other character will learn. EVAR. Something like this will do a lot toward shaping your RP in fun and interesting ways for yourself and others. Technically you can do this with any concept, canon or otherwise. This is how all those players RPing their characters as primals and void touched should be doing it. Just, you know, don't go blabbing to everyone.

 

Anyway. 2 cents. I'm done. Not getting sucked into this Twilight love fest. Enjoy your vamp rage, RPC.

[ultima_weapon]

and not all vamps r evil das racist bruh lol in vampire diaries they were created with a nature spell too.

 

:frustrated:

 

Guys, this guys character's last name is Swan. He's just looking for vampire RP period. He's not gonna listen to any logical or cohesive facts about lore. Just leave him/her be.

 

OP you really shouldn't ask if your idea is lore compliant and then hilariously disregard the facts given to you. It's pretty obv trolling.

 

WTB thread lock.

not trolling just trying to have a good laugh and talk to people. and my last name is actually Swann in game and real life dont judge on things u dont kno and facts? lore is more fluid than u make it out to be. can you tell me the origin of the miquo'te master race? its lore compliant to say that humans did weird things with cats so im just trying to broaden horizons.

[Aaron]

the word vampire does exist in ff14 tho there's a regeant called Vampire plant that sucks lifeblood from plants around it so the label and terminology already exist in the game

A plant isnt an undead evil creature though...

neither are all vampires in different lore. in A Certain Magical Index they are magical beings descended from Cain who are the same as humans but with greater magical potential and mages steal their hearts to create weapons since they dont stop beating and essentially provide infinite power. among other examples

Yes but the term vampire isnt necessarily tied to your version as Val said.

 

It could be something created to ascertain that specific plant.

 

Pretty sure leopards werent called leopards because of something already existing.

well the word leopard comes from greek and latin roots meaning lion + panther since it was believed to be a hybrid species, which it isnt but the name stuck. so literally it means panther-lion. so yes they were called leopards based on something already existing lol

Yes but as we all know a leopard is not a lion or a panther. Hence the name leopard stuck because when you think about it the name is unique to that particular species. Because legit panther lions are not real.

 

Same applies to a vampire plant or whatever. The rerm vampire could be anything that feeds off the blood or life of something else. Which when you think about it just means the things carnivorous in a sense.

 

Nothing to do with mythical vampires you're talking about.

 

But in all honesty as i stated earlier. I really don't care what you do. Odds are it's not gonna bother me.