discussion Alternate RP Server

[EliBallard]

The reason why is because the incentives can make or break whether or not people choose to leave. As someone quoted earlier there are indeed pros and cons to voting early and waiting for the designated worlds. There are many possibilities and their likelihoods aren't high but it does well to consider all the angles.

 

Square Enix retains the option of merging some of the lower pop worlds. What happens if Mateus (which is currently my top choice) ends up being merged with goblin or Zalera and doesn't get a designated free world transfer bonus? What if some communities would be willing to uproot but only for a designated bonus? More communities means a healthier, more robust one that can facilitate differing opinions and possible breaks in thought. We all want this endeavor to succeed and want to give it all the best options and support possible.

Because this is by and large for NEW players, not people already on Balmung.

[Mercer]

The reason why is because the incentives can make or break whether or not people choose to leave. As someone quoted earlier there are indeed pros and cons to voting early and waiting for the designated worlds. There are many possibilities and their likelihoods aren't high but it does well to consider all the angles.

 

Square Enix retains the option of merging some of the lower pop worlds. What happens if Mateus (which is currently my top choice) ends up being merged with goblin or Zalera and doesn't get a designated free world transfer bonus? What if some communities would be willing to uproot but only for a designated bonus? More communities means a healthier, more robust one that can facilitate differing opinions and possible breaks in thought.

 

I agree and that's why I clarified in the original post that it's not the end all be all vote, there will be more over time. But right now people need a place to go. There will be more votes, there will be more discussions as info comes out. Plans can change, they will change. But people are still looking for a home and a community right now. Information and guidance is needed.

[Haven's Fox]

They're not going to give free transfers between small servers. They're giving free transfers from capped servers to small servers.

 

Actually it doesn't say either way in how the bonus will apply yet. All we have is a vague "Transfers to designated Worlds will be free of charge" statement so far. As I said before we still have yet to see the second half of that news post with the details.

[Kage]

You're right. I tend to be over the horizon, long distance what-ifs person and sometimes can't see the shit right under my nose. I just want this endeavor and whatever else to do well.

 

I've been fairly active or lurking from the moment I joined RPC. Since then, I've seen people turn to other places from Balmung. People will post free company or linkshell infos for their communities. Eventually, through a various amounts of reasons, people will trickle away or back. I've seen people upset because communities have stagnated or too insular that the other players feel that things are too clique-ish. Things seemingly held up strong because of a few pillars and end up collapsing so once again it's seemingly a struggle from the ashes. Nothing has flourished and blossomed yet with bounties of fruit.

 

This is -not- to demean any of the communities who have tried, are living, or will continue to be tried. It's my honest opinion that there's so much strength in being able to gather each of these communities and bring them together, so that the reliance of the health of the community is not solely on a few leaders or a singular group. I just don't think it's good to, in the end, say "Here's the few you can go to" whereas there can be the new RP server, designated and chosen with the best possible efforts and information we can. One of which those efforts is yes, including any possible Balmung communities to join as well as consolidating other server groups.

[Erah'sae]

It's my honest opinion that there's so much strength in being able to gather each of these communities and bring them together, so that the reliance of the health of the community is not solely on a few leaders or a singular group. I just don't think it's good to, in the end, say "Here's the few you can go to" whereas there can be the new RP server, designated and chosen with the best possible efforts and information we can. One of which those efforts is yes, including any possible Balmung communities to join as well as consolidating other server groups.

 

To be honest, I don't thing the server itself doesn't matter as much for this as getting things set up to where there are 'enough' pillars to handle a that time period of initial move in and hitting the critical mass of self-sustainability.  I'm trying to envision what things will look like a year from now when the routine churn has taken it's toll and removed a few of those pillars (because real life always does.)

 

I watched folks try and establish an RP community on Cactaur and have it fall apart for similar reasons.  The big coordinator of the few smaller groups had a kid and quit to be a dad.  It more or less died out not too long after.  A new RP community needs to be able to survive disruption like that.

[Kuzhuk]

I won't be voting, but I will be participating. The chosen server doesn't matter to me. I just want somewhere to go that's low population and will allow for free transfers and character creation. It's also very important to me that enough people commit to this and follow through to create a stable community.

[Seraphine Felstar]

Cast my vote for Mateus and happy to welcome any newcomers to the server. Anyone who is looking for an invite to our server LS, discord, needing an FC, dungeon assistance or wanting help getting started can feel free to send a /tell to Sera Felstar :thumbsup:

[Papajimboh]

In response to those saying it's mostly for new players, it does affect people connected to them too. I am currently on Balmung, and my wife is not. She created characters before the shut down, and then wasn't able to move play with me, and I don't want to move now either until we know which servers are going to be designated. 

 

So whether or not you're currently on Balmung doesn't affect whether you get to have an opinion or not. 

 

I voted, but as has been mentioned previously, we won't get a true bearing for the situation until we see how SE handles the server designation and if they end up combining servers. That could heavily swing the poll if we knew now what they'll do.

 

As for my wife and myself, we're just keeping an eye on the situation before making any snap decisions, and hopefully it works out in favor of the community as a whole creating a secondary home for thriving RP while simultaneously maintaining the strong community on Balmung. There is enough of a presence to spread the love a bit without diluting it to the point of destroying it.

 

I do wish they'd announce soon though since most people would no doubt prefer moving and getting settled prior to the launch of Stormblood.

[Blair]

Putting a vote in for Mateus. Ive been here since I started 3 years ago and there are a bunch of thriving fc's. I was in an old rp ls before hw so the rp scene has been here a long while even if it was small. But ever since cross server pf came out. There is little need to transfer away anymore from the smaller servers. The growth has been steady since then to our friendly community. Players in the RPC ls and others have helped grow the rp community here lately also and I appreciate that. So im all for more growth if people want to transfer. Havent seen an us vs them mentality. Id say we welcome more people to the raid, hunt, rp and other scenes we have goin. Plenty of great fc's and people. Housing here that you can start a fc up in. Or a new rp location. Plenty of sprouts start out here and level all the way to 60.

[TheCrimsonRose]

As a person whom has been to Balmung and see first hand how bloody crowded; it is nice to see that folks are trying to find a full alternative.  I also think that the populous of Balmung has been overall nice but... unpleasant after a long stint.

 

I would like folks to learn that Faerie has been offering HUGE public RP locations and many personal Houses aswell as FC home have been converted into Bars/Stripclubs/taverns/pubs/bathhouses and many other things.

 

We've got a lot fo the same locations and instances that Balmung offers with a Discord and numerous LS for RP OR getting started with RP.

[Maril]

//Modhat on 

 

This thread has been cleaned - Please keep on topic. I refer to the modhat disclaimer on the first page. 

 

//Modhat off.

[Vexander]

Having recently moved to Mateus I had to vote for it of course. Its RP community is strong and growing, friendly and helpful, and there's always a good number of RP'ers on. The Housing Market is highly available as well. Being the least populated server currently for the Aether Data Center, I cannot imagine Mateus not being a designated free transfer server either.

[Hilde]

Is Mateus the most active RP server right now, though, or is it only being chosen because the transfer fee will likely be free?

[Vexander]

Is Mateus the most active RP server right now, though, or is it only being chosen because the transfer fee will likely be free?

I think its difficult to quantify the activity on the servers to be honest. I'd like to say Mateus, Siren, and Faerie have sustained communities of RP'ers on them. As for which has the largest, I couldn't begin to guess. I do know quite a few people who have transferred to Mateus of late, but I wouldn't be surprised if Faerie and Siren were getting new folks as well.

[EliBallard]

Is Mateus the most active RP server right now, though, or is it only being chosen because the transfer fee will likely be free?

It is without a doubt the most active of the options.

[Shion]

I have to vote for Mateus too, and not just because I spent money transferring yesterday. I've been pleasantly surprised by the community since I arrived. Small, yes, but friendly and active for its size.

 

That said, I'm not sure how well the idea of designating a secondary RP server - no matter which it is - will go over with the "losing" servers. Certainly new players without a stake in it can be directed there, but people on Faerie and such probably won't want to pay to transfer over. I only transferred because I was new so didn't have any roots established on Balmung (well also because my slightly-newer-than-me friend missed his opportunity to get on Balmung but on Mateus we can play together).

[Gabineaux]

I -almost- sent an alt off with enough gil to snatch that last Lavender Beds large house on Mateus but someone beat me to it. There's still a LOT of empty plots there and the RP friendly houses there are looking pretty nice.

 

Unfortunately I keep hours like an Australian, and when I was around there was nobody online at all.

[Papajimboh]

Have they made mention, or even hinted at a potential date of announcement for when they may pull the trigger on designating servers? That would erase much of the guesswork and allow everyone to really start zeroing in on a target server, be it the higher vote getter or otherwise. 

 

I'd also like to make an observation. It seems at least a few newer players (I'm still rather new myself actually) are getting some good info from this thread and the previous, and we may well see at least a bit of growth across all the mentioned realms. Not everyone is simply going to dive into the most popular server, but instead may read something someone says during this discussion and decide another option suits them better. 

 

Regardless where everyone lands when the dust settles, do what makes you happy and what suits you best instead of simply swimming with the current. Finding a nice little spot to fit into will make you happy, and therefore the people you RP with happier by association.

[LetsGoKaito]

I must agree with the others about the benefits of Mateus. With the announcement of bonuses coming for new or transferring players, it will be the easiest to recommend newer rpers. not to mention housing is plentiful. The only downside that I can think of is the MB prices and variety are less than ideal compared to the other options, but with boosted exp and gil, disciples of hand and land will catch it up fairly quickly.

[Cassandra]

I do wish they'd announce soon though since most people would no doubt prefer moving and getting settled prior to the launch of Stormblood.

 

The reason they didn't is to avoid people flooding onto Balmung and Gilgamesh knowing they won't have an opportunity again for however long. They wanted this to blindside us hoping people like yourself would transfer off. I don't say that to be mean, but it's the unfortunate reality of how SE wants to handle Balmung's overpopulation. 

 

What I do take umbrage with is their decision to lock high pop servers now but wait until Stormblood's launch before implementing bonuses or free transfers. Right now, no one has any incentive to leave since it'll still cost $18. They should have rolled everything out together, thus encouraging people to transfer instead of having us stuck in limbo waiting for them to figure it all out.

[Vexander]

What I do take umbrage with is their decision to lock high pop servers now but wait until Stormblood's launch before implementing bonuses or free transfers. Right now, no one has any incentive to leave since it'll still cost $18. They should have rolled everything out together, thus encouraging people to transfer instead of having us stuck in limbo waiting for them to figure it all out.

I don't disagree that they should've opened free transfers off now as well, but I will say Square gave me an incentive to leave Balmung: the Lag. Ever since the servers were relocated to the West Coast, the game was become far too unresponsive for me while on Balmung. When I logged onto Mateus with my main after moving him, it felt like how it was before the move. The lack of congestion makes the game easier to play.

[Unnamed Mercenary]

What I do take umbrage with is their decision to lock high pop servers now but wait until Stormblood's launch before implementing bonuses or free transfers. Right now, no one has any incentive to leave since it'll still cost $18. They should have rolled everything out together, thus encouraging people to transfer instead of having us stuck in limbo waiting for them to figure it all out.

I don't disagree that they should've opened free transfers off now as well, but I will say Square gave me an incentive to leave Balmung: the Lag. Ever since the servers were relocated to the West Coast, the game was become far too unresponsive for me while on Balmung. When I logged onto Mateus with my main after moving him, it felt like how it was before the move. The lack of congestion makes the game easier to play.

 

That's kinda unlikely or it's your connection then. Balmung and Mateus are on the same datacenter. They share half the same servers (lobby, instances, etc).

[Papajimboh]

I do wish they'd announce soon though since most people would no doubt prefer moving and getting settled prior to the launch of Stormblood.

 

The reason they didn't is to avoid people flooding onto Balmung and Gilgamesh knowing they won't have an opportunity again for however long. They wanted this to blindside us hoping people like yourself would transfer off. I don't say that to be mean, but it's the unfortunate reality of how SE wants to handle Balmung's overpopulation. 

 

What I do take umbrage with is their decision to lock high pop servers now but wait until Stormblood's launch before implementing bonuses or free transfers. Right now, no one has any incentive to leave since it'll still cost $18. They should have rolled everything out together, thus encouraging people to transfer instead of having us stuck in limbo waiting for them to figure it all out.

 

That's actually what I was referring to. I understand them blindsiding us with the lockout for that reason. What I meant was I wish they would let us know which servers are going to be designated as free transfers prior to Stormblood, or preferably just go ahead and open them up now. 

 

Doing it at the launch is going to make it sort of chaotic for the community as everyone will be wanting to enjoy the new content, but also scrambling to get this situation in order. 

 

Sorry if I was unclear.

[Arrelaine]

I do wish they'd announce soon though since most people would no doubt prefer moving and getting settled prior to the launch of Stormblood.

 

The reason they didn't is to avoid people flooding onto Balmung and Gilgamesh knowing they won't have an opportunity again for however long. They wanted this to blindside us hoping people like yourself would transfer off. I don't say that to be mean, but it's the unfortunate reality of how SE wants to handle Balmung's overpopulation. 

 

What I do take umbrage with is their decision to lock high pop servers now but wait until Stormblood's launch before implementing bonuses or free transfers. Right now, no one has any incentive to leave since it'll still cost $18. They should have rolled everything out together, thus encouraging people to transfer instead of having us stuck in limbo waiting for them to figure it all out.

 

That's actually what I was referring to. I understand them blindsiding us with the lockout for that reason. What I meant was I wish they would let us know which servers are going to be designated as free transfers prior to Stormblood, or preferably just go ahead and open them up now. 

 

Doing it at the launch is going to make it sort of chaotic for the community as everyone will be wanting to enjoy the new content, but also scrambling to get this situation in order. 

 

Sorry if I was unclear.

This would be nice. They really should be opening it -really soon-.

[Koti Nexus]

So, I've been fairly quiet about things as I've been giving a chance for the other Roleplay servers to come in and speak about themselves. I am in support of where-ever the cards may fall, as I know people will do, in the end, what they will do.

 

To explain a bit about myself, is that I am someone from the ye ol' days of Besaid. I was there during closed beta, open beta, and I watched the very formation of these forums. I actually remember when this place was called the RPC and not Hydaelyn; Or I think it now it is called H-RP.

 

I watched as we were merged with another server and we managed to keep our small, but lively roleplay community together. We didn't have Discord back then or many means we do now to keep the community connected, but we found the ways here in this forums to remain a strong community.

 

I also remember when the servers were closed down and when 2.0 started, but it was around here that I stepped away from Balmung, because my life took a very different path and I did, sadly, yes, burn some bridges because of it. I always lived in the shadow of that regret. Of the fact that my life, while out of my control, did burn bridges and tarnished my name a bit.

 

Knowing that when I returned and with little to no connection. The harder it was becoming for people to join Balmung and watching the posts here, I decided to create the RPC, name sake to these forums long ago, on Mateus.

 

Why Mateus?

 

Because Mateus was a very low pop server, a very friendly base community of the already mix culture that was there. The non-roleplayers were supportive and curious. The roleplayers were open and warm. It reminded me greatly of Besaid so long ago; My home.

 

I knew there that this place had the potential to be a flood over for Balmung, it had a chance to become something special and wonderful, and so I spent nearly 6 months of my time working with the community to build it up. To make amends for what I had done and to help support something that could flourish for the servers lifetime.

 

Low population means great place to build from. Its open. Its untouched. It can be shaped. It is a chance to start over and make anew. To learn from past mistakes and fix those mistakes to make something greater.

 

To come to Mateus, to support Mateus, is to build on a foundation of the great frontier as some many forefathers did before us. It has housing available, a market that can grow, and a community that can continue to strive forward.

 

I believe in what we are doing here and while yes, we do have our growing pains, and little subcommunities are being created as I type this. This is alright, it only shows the continued growth, the continued success of this building on this frontier.

 

You can join us on the RPC of Mateus or you can create your own path. We are ready for both of these, as a local of Mateus who is very supportive of Balmung, wishes to help as much as I, and is super excited to see all this work paying off. They even created a Discord to help keep sub-communities all together as one family. Because to be here, is to be family, and we all know families don't always get along, but its how we grow from those experiences and how we handle those experiences is what makes us as community.

 

I want Mateus to be a sister to Balmung. I love the people of Balmung, my former home, and I did this to help. I did this to help not only Balmung but to help increase the population on a server that needed the people; That wanted the people.

 

[align=left]While this is not a direct link to the RPC, it is one to the Mateus Roleplay Commuinity, created to keep this family together as it grows and by the permission of the woman who created it, I'm going to link it here. Join on there, ask questions, see the community at its heart. -- Mateus Roleplay Family

 

I'm also sorry if this post is a bit messy, I am writing from my heart and I do hope, I really do hope. You will consider us, but what choice you all make as a community... Know this, I wish you all, each one of you, best of luck in your adventures, because what makes us all family, is the love of 14 and the love of roleplay.

 

Cheers![/align]