The RPC and the RP Server

[Mayumi Shiro]

Okay, I'm brand new to this community and am already a bit lost as to how to integrate so to speak when the right time comes.

 

The question of which server is going to house the RPrs is a question I had (in another thread)  It got no answers and now I think I know why.

 

I did play 1.0 for about 30 days, I maybe hit lvl 12 on a pug, but the game was attrocious and I just couldn't bring myself to play it.  At that time I did not RP in MMOs.

 

I did not realize that there was an unoffical RP server already either.

 

I have two other friends that are going to be playing, now neither of them RP so I'm not likely going to be joining them, however I won't lie about my hesitation to join a legacy server over a new one, for a small handful of reasons.

 

1: Equal footing, I know the game technically already had a launch with 1.0, that aside, when I join a "new" game I like the feeling that everyone around me is right where I'm at, and that as a server, we have to push forward, progress and learn about each other and the game.

 

2: 3rd wheel syndrome.  As has been stated, the 1.0 community is a tight knit group of pre-estabished RPrs.  They have deep backstories and have not only earned their levels but gone thru who knows how much RP to bring their characters to where they are now....and then there's me, the lvl 1 dude, the new kid in school who knows nobody at all.  Yes, a lot of people have said, well there's level sync we can always go backwards and help out, which is true..but that makes me feel like a 3rd wheel.  Here's a bunch of people who COULD be doing something else, now taking time to gain nothing but assist me.  I'm sure that's rewarding the first few times but after a while I can only imagine I'd be thought of as a hassle, and even if that's not the case, the thought would be lingering at the back of my mind.

       In this case, as a person trying to re-establish my RP roots, I imagine that I'd likely just withdraw with that thought constantly bombarding me wether it be true or not, which would not be condusive to me being able to actually RP.

 

3: The economy, This has nothing to do with RP so I won't go into detail other than to say, I want to be able to be amongst the first of those who hit a decent level in various crafts to help establish an economy.  I don't want to be the guy at the bottom trying to establish himself in an already established one.  This again to me, feels like its going against the whole new game launch feeling.

 

Now it would be absolutely..frankly heartless to ask anyone from 1.0 to toss away their achievements to start again.  That's clearly not a good solution.  For those who are from the 1.0 community, do try to understand the perspective of not only the new players, but new role players.  Many say that we can benefit from the experience of the established, and to a point I agree.  However I also believe that the same experience can be a detriment and a road block to newly formed RP'rs or gamers.  There is going to be awkwardness, there are going to be people who shy away and stop RPing either altogether or for a period of time while they acclimate.

 

Having the 1.0 RP server and then another RP server seems like a solution, of course, I've been around gaming for more years than I can count and that situation is akin to a guild splitting their top lvl members from their lower and mid leveled members into a sister guild and then saying that sister guild will still get the same support.  At first it may happen, but ultimately it is the high tier, or the origin guild where the action is at and the sister one tends to end up feeling like an abandoned puppy.

 

For me the first peg of forming an answer as to where I'm going to go will depend greatly on knowing where the RP community as a majority is going to be.  If that turns out to be on a legacy server then I need only ask myself is my drive to want to start RPing again equal to or greater than my aprehension about joining a pre-established server?

 

The other big factor is if SQUEENIX does end up branding an "official" rp server, than I suspect that's likely where I would go given that..well it is the official one.

[Challoux Baudrier]

This has turned into something akin to a Senate debate. Legacy server supporters on the left, majority supported non-legacy server supporters on the right, independents and small pockets of other random server selections down the middle. Maybe we should be calling this website the HRC-SPAN channel.

[Rhostel]

Viper, you may find you don't get much of a response. That's just because everything you've mentioned has been hashed out to death already, not any slight on your person. I don't think anyone would blame you for not reading through everything that's been said, though.

 

Basically, don't worry. The only real problems here are those caused by pessimism. Patience and acceptance will be rewarded.

[Asyria]

I've said it back before 1.0 was in beta and I'll say it again... votes suck. They always create drama, it's inevitable.

So either, don't have a vote or just.. you know.. don't make drama! ^^

 

And Viper.. I understand where you're coming from, but try seeing this game as an old game, rather than a new one. Because it's not new, it's just changed. So it's the same as joining a game that's existed for a while.

 

Even if it was brand new, there will always be those people who will rush to max level in a week before they start RPing or those that have RPed for months before launch in chat or on forums.

 

I'm not saying your concerns aren't valid, on the contrary I'm saying they would be valid even on a brand new game. I've played a dozen mmo's in beta and launch by now and every single time I was lagging behind after a week. And I've been unable to work or do much physical stuff for the past 4 years so mmo's have been my primary source of entertainment. ^^;

[Savarah]

Since this debate is so popular, I might as well throw in my two cents (which may or may not have already been said).

 

My background, to put it simply, is that of an FF fanatic who unfortunately never got to play 1.0 and has only a small degree of RP experience.

 

With that being said, I could really go either way with the server argument. On one side, I see the merit of joining a non-Legacy server in order to experience and grow with -about- the same rate as other players (excluding the power levelers and whatnot).

 

On the other hand (which is the way I am personally leaning), I would love to join everyone on Balmung simply because my knowledge of the lore, 1.0 especially, is very limited. The whole timeskipper bit along with the details on the Echo...I simply don't know that much about it. So finding some kind soul who can kinda hold my hand lore-wise would be nice.

[Azthran]

The discussion had gotten pretty popular on another thread but I think that thread wasn't meant for such a discussion to get that big. If I'm wrong then feel free to simply ignore/lock/and or remove this topic should any mod see fit to do so~

 

Now then we all have our opinions on this matter and many of us have shared those opinions already but lets just take a step back and look at these two server types objectively for a moment and see what's really different about them.

 

First off we have the name and I'm willing to admit that tagging a server as "Legacy" does sort of make it sound special and for the cool kids. All that tag is really saying though is "Hey! You have a character from 1.0? Cool, you can keep playing that character here."

 

Next we have the economy. This has been a concern of many people it seems as a few have mentioned that they would rather help shape the economy of a server rather than hop into one that's already established. Now the point I want to make here is that both server types will need to build up their economy. Yes legacy characters will start off with more gil and some items but I think this may just be a kick start to the economy to get it off the ground a tad quicker. Prices are bound to start out high and then hopefully smooth out regardless of what server you're on. I could see low level crafting materials being a bit of an issue on legacy servers but with the changed so gathering and crafting classes I'm hoping that will just sort itself out.

 

Community. This seems to be where a lot of people have issues so lets just stay calm, take a deep breath, and step back for a moment. RPC is not the only pre-established community out there, just like any other MMO launch people are using the betas and the hype to build up LS/FCs before the game is out. So with that being said cliques and in crowds will have already been formed on just about every server, this also leads in to those who will rush to level cap and dive into endgame. I'm willing to bet that after the first month there won't be much difference between the two servers other than the ability to have continued with your 1.0 character on those with a Legacy tab.

 

These are just some of the things I've been thinking about the last couple of days while out of town. Feel free to leave your thoughts and comments or to simply move along to another topic. Cheers!

[jwhyrock]

I'm a new user on the site, new to FFXIV not counting beta of course and old school roleplayer. Although I'm sure the legacy folks will be warm and welcoming I agree with the sentiment  that for those of us who are new, a server that was roleplay friendly non-legacy makes more sense.

 

You might not understand it, but think of it like watching a movie with someone who has already seen the movie but it's your first time seeing it. Even if they're not being annoying you can't escape the knowledge that they already know what's going to happen so its a little less enjoyable. 

 

We want to level with other people who are having that first time sense of wonder, learning curve and less exclusivity even if unintentional. 

 

Non-legacy needs a roleplay server.

 

**Also not sure if someone already referenced this discussion from the FFXIV forums which is related: http://forum.square-enix.com/ARR-Test/threads/47135-Alternative-RP-server-Behemoth%21

[Ellie]

I'm a new user on the site, new to FFXIV not counting beta of course and old school roleplayer. Although I'm sure the legacy folks will be warm and welcoming I agree with the sentiment  that for those of us who are new, a server that was roleplay friendly non-legacy makes more sense.

 

You might not understand it, but think of it like watching a movie with someone who has already seen the movie but it's your first time seeing it. Even if they're not being annoying you can't escape the knowledge that they already know what's going to happen so its a little less enjoyable. 

 

We want to level with other people who are having that first time sense of wonder, learning curve and less exclusivity even if unintentional. 

 

Non-legacy needs a roleplay server.

 

Actually, I don't know if the movie analogy is very accurate. Most of the game's content, especially the story, is as new to us as it is to anyone else. It'd be more like seeing the sequel to a movie that you've only read the synopsis of, but your friend has watched the whole movie. The movie itself is new to you both, but the person who saw the first movie knows the characters and the themes of the story better.

 

I won't fault you if that's something that you'd rather not have to deal with, but I feel for those who are like you, but will be joining the game in the future. They won't have a server that's brand new for them to start on. If going to a server where people have already been playing is so bad that there are people who can't tough it out for a few months until they're experienced too, this means they're not likely going to want to join us on FFXIV at all. It's kind of sad to think about.

[jwhyrock]

I'm a new user on the site, new to FFXIV not counting beta of course and old school roleplayer. Although I'm sure the legacy folks will be warm and welcoming I agree with the sentiment  that for those of us who are new, a server that was roleplay friendly non-legacy makes more sense.

 

You might not understand it, but think of it like watching a movie with someone who has already seen the movie but it's your first time seeing it. Even if they're not being annoying you can't escape the knowledge that they already know what's going to happen so its a little less enjoyable. 

 

We want to level with other people who are having that first time sense of wonder, learning curve and less exclusivity even if unintentional. 

 

Non-legacy needs a roleplay server.

 

Actually, I don't know if the movie analogy is very accurate. Most of the game's content, especially the story, is as new to us as it is to anyone else. It'd be more like seeing the sequel to a movie that you've only read the synopsis of, but your friend has watched the whole movie. The movie itself is new to you both, but the person who saw the first movie knows the characters and the themes of the story better.

 

I won't fault you if that's something that you'd rather not have to deal with, but I feel for those who are like you, but will be joining the game in the future. They won't have a server that's brand new for them to start on. If going to a server where people have already been playing is so bad that there are people who can't tough it out for a few months until they're experienced too, this means they're not likely going to want to join us on FFXIV at all. It's kind of sad to think about.

 

 

I knew that would be the predictable response the second after I posted. A better reason is that there is a group of people who already know each other and a group of people yet to form these relationships. We want to form our own groups organically. We don't want match.com meet ups we want drunk hook ups with like minded strangers at name your watering hole.

[Khaze'to Zhwan]

I'm a new user on the site, new to FFXIV not counting beta of course and old school roleplayer. Although I'm sure the legacy folks will be warm and welcoming I agree with the sentiment  that for those of us who are new, a server that was roleplay friendly non-legacy makes more sense.

 

You might not understand it, but think of it like watching a movie with someone who has already seen the movie but it's your first time seeing it. Even if they're not being annoying you can't escape the knowledge that they already know what's going to happen so its a little less enjoyable. 

 

We want to level with other people who are having that first time sense of wonder, learning curve and less exclusivity even if unintentional. 

 

Non-legacy needs a roleplay server.

 

Actually, I don't know if the movie analogy is very accurate. Most of the game's content, especially the story, is as new to us as it is to anyone else. It'd be more like seeing the sequel to a movie that you've only read the synopsis of, but your friend has watched the whole movie. The movie itself is new to you both, but the person who saw the first movie knows the characters and the themes of the story better.

 

I won't fault you if that's something that you'd rather not have to deal with, but I feel for those who are like you, but will be joining the game in the future. They won't have a server that's brand new for them to start on. If going to a server where people have already been playing is so bad that there are people who can't tough it out for a few months until they're experienced too, this means they're not likely going to want to join us on FFXIV at all. It's kind of sad to think about.

Thats a very good point and I think its something that people are forgetting, these brand new servers will only happen very very rarely after launch and so people are going to be joining existing communities, and the experienced people might very well be those who were so against the idea of joining an existing community in the first place.

[Challoux Baudrier]

"we want drunk hook ups with like minded strangers at name your watering hole."

 

I'm pretty sure some of these legacy players are more than capable of that. :angel:

[faceman7381]

I shake my head now for in the future a year or so from here a player will come come on here and say something about how they wish they and their friends would have been here at launch because they just joined the non legacy rp server and every one was already in rp groups and they were way behind on gil gear and levels.  And the response will be well you gotta adjust for 

The community.  Irony.....I shake my head now to save time later.....

[jwhyrock]

I shake my head now for in the future a year or so from here a player will come come on here and say something about how they wish they and their friends would have been here at launch because they just joined the non legacy rp server and every one was already in rp groups and they were way behind on gil gear and levels.  And the response will be well you gotta adjust for 

The community.  Irony.....I shake my head now to save time later.....

 

and it's that exact elitist attitude we don't want any part of. We're just not that into you sorry. I'm sure you don't represent the majority of roleplayers here though as I know that the focus isn't comparing stats and racing to the finish or you're a loser mentality. Most of the real roleplayers have been very nice and welcoming. Wanting to play with new people is perfectly fine for many people.

[Averis]

I knew that would be the predictable response the second after I posted. A better reason is that there is a group of people who already know each other and a group of people yet to form these relationships. We want to form our own groups organically. We don't want match.com meet ups we want drunk hook ups with like minded strangers at name your watering hole.

 

I don't get this at all. Meeting people is meeting people. Sometimes they are in a group, sometimes they aren't. Does this mean that if a group of friends or a couple join the same "new" sever as you you won't play with them either because they already know each other? We hear this all the time, "My friends and I want to start on a new server". Isn't that the same thing in the end in regards to groups that already know each other? Wouldn't that then mean that other new players won't want to play with your group of friends since you already know each other? (The general you)

 

Often times guilds are formed and started well before a new games launches. A lot of new ones are starting now on this very forum alongside older ones. When a new player starts the game on launch day there are already a bunch of guilds already established. You can't start on a server where no one knows each other at all. It's just not possible. And I just find it all the more ironic how many (not necessarily the person I commented) complaining about Balmung and its already established groups are coming from people that themselves are "a group a friends".

 

To me this is just simply a fear that "I won't be accepted with the cool kids" or that they want to start on an equal footing, IE for competitive reasons, which I can understand to a degree, but everyone levels at a different pace anyway, so it's sort of a moot point in the long run. (again this is in general to those complaining about starting on an established RP server, not specifically to the commented post above)

 

Like others have said, a new server isn't going to be open each time new players join the game, and if new players are truly role-players and want that immersion then they should go where the majority of their fellows are. Just as in real life, there will be people more experienced than you and groups and bonds already formed. Work with that into your character story.

 

Just my opinion...

[faceman7381]

........I have no levels higher than 25.....

 

I am in a link shell with 6 non legacy players that I founded.....

 

 I mentor 2 people on the site....

 

I was making the point that someday you too will be in the same place we are and despite saying we will welcome and help you become part of the community a new player will present the argument that they are too far behind to catch up so there is no point to try.....

 

All you will have left to say is what some of are doing....pleading you to try it and not break up the community....

 

It was meant to show the irony...not inflame....

 

Dee Snyder once said at the PMRC hearings in the late 80s to paraphrase...'if you go looking for something in someone's words you will find it without first knowing the true meaning they were expressing.'. I ment only to convey how it is now and how it will be for everyone no matter the server....

 

That is all..

 

 

All the best to all in whatever they choose to do.

 

Konner

[jwhyrock]

I knew that would be the predictable response the second after I posted. A better reason is that there is a group of people who already know each other and a group of people yet to form these relationships. We want to form our own groups organically. We don't want match.com meet ups we want drunk hook ups with like minded strangers at name your watering hole.

 

I don't get this at all. Meeting people is meeting people. Sometimes they are in a group, sometimes they aren't. Does this mean that if a group of friends or a couple join the same "new" sever as you you won't play with them either because they already know each other? We hear this all the time, "My friends and I want to start on a new server". Isn't that the same thing in the end in regards to groups that already know each other? Wouldn't that then mean that other new players won't want to play with your group of friends since you already know each other? (The general you)

 

Often times guilds are formed and started well before a new games launches. A lot of new ones are starting now on this very forum alongside older ones. When a new player starts the game on launch day there are already a bunch of guilds already established. You can't start on a server where no one knows each other at all. It's just not possible. And I just find it all the more ironic how many (not necessarily the person I commented) complaining about Balmung and its already established groups are coming from people that themselves are "a group a friends".

 

To me this is just simply a fear that "I won't be accepted with the cool kids" or that they want to start on an equal footing, IE for competitive reasons, which I can understand to a degree, but everyone levels at a different pace anyway, so it's sort of a moot point in the long run. (again this is in general to those complaining about starting on an established RP server, not specifically to the commented post above)

 

Like others have said, a new server isn't going to be open each time new players join the game, and if new players are truly role-players and want that immersion then they should go where the majority of their fellows are. Just as in real life, there will be people more experienced than you and groups and bonds already formed. Work with that into your character story.

 

Just my opinion...

 

 

I'm 36 couldn't give less of a shit about people's social habits. I prefer uncharted territory and it's not rocket science that people who are legacy are pc even if they are now playing ps3 version which means they tend to be more mmorpg veteran than your average console gamer branching out into mmorpg territory for the first time.

 

It is a fact a non legacy server will have more new players than vets. You can attempt to spin it any way you want. We don't want a legacy server bottom line. Enjoy your legacy server we will make a community on non legacy server.

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........I have no levels higher than 25.....

 

I am in a link shell with 6 non legacy players that I founded.....

 

 I mentor 2 people on the site....

 

I was making the point that someday you too will be in the same place we are and despite saying we will welcome and help you become part of the community a new player will present the argument that they are too far behind to catch up so there is no point to try.....

 

All you will have left to say is what some of are doing....pleading you to try it and not break up the community....

 

It was meant to show the irony...not inflame....

 

Dee Snyder once said at the PMRC hearings in the late 80s to paraphrase...'if you go looking for something in someone's words you will find it without first knowing the true meaning they were expressing.'. I ment only to convey how it is now and how it will be for everyone no matter the server....

 

That is all..

 

 

All the best to all in whatever they choose to do.

 

Konner

 

 

Fair enough. I guess I'll call off the hackers! =) It did come across as snide, but good to know not intentional.

[Averis]

I'm 36 couldn't give less of a shit about people's social habits. I prefer uncharted territory and it's not rocket science that people who are legacy are pc even if they are now playing ps3 version which means they tend to be more mmorpg veteran than your average console gamer branching out into mmorpg territory for the first time.

 

It is a fact a non legacy server will have more new players than vets. You can attempt to spin it any way you want. We don't want a legacy server bottom line.   Enjoy your legacy server we will make a community on non legacy server.

 

I'm also 36, but I don't know what our ages have to do with anything. I'm just giving my view on the matter. I really don't understand this "threat" that "vets" pose to you. I'm just befuddled by it. I'm not trying to "spin" anything. I'm just having a discussion. If you don't care what others do and made up your mind then why argue about it so much? Just do what you plan to do.

 

The thing I don't get is that we aren't enemies here, and I don't think anyone is forcing anyone to do anything, yet I feel this strong angst against the legacy folks and server as if we all did something horribly wrong to even suggest the idea to try and keep our small RP community together.

 

Anyway, have fun wherever you end up. I hope you have many great adventures.

[jwhyrock]

I'm 36 couldn't give less of a shit about people's social habits. I prefer uncharted territory and it's not rocket science that people who are legacy are pc even if they are now playing ps3 version which means they tend to be more mmorpg veteran than your average console gamer branching out into mmorpg territory for the first time.

 

It is a fact a non legacy server will have more new players than vets. You can attempt to spin it any way you want. We don't want a legacy server bottom line.   Enjoy your legacy server we will make a community on non legacy server.

 

I'm also 36, but I don't know what our ages have to do with anything. I'm just giving my view on the matter. I really don't understand this "threat" that "vets" pose to you. I'm just befuddled by it. I'm not trying to "spin" anything. I'm just having a discussion. If you don't care what others do and made up your mind then why argue about it so much? Just do what you plan to do.

 

The thing I don't get is that we aren't enemies here, and I don't think anyone is forcing anyone to do anything, yet I feel this strong angst against the legacy folks and server as if we all did something horribly wrong to even suggest the idea to try and keep our small RP community together.

 

Anyway, have fun wherever you end up. I hope you have many great adventures.

 

Because only kids worry about social conventions. I don't find text on the Internet threatening. I'm stating that a world with more new people is far more enjoyable than a world with experts. It becomes a collective journey of discovery and learning vs. a bunch of seasoned players holding the hands of the new folks. It's a matter of what someone enjoys. You could love country music and tell me the southern community is really warm and awesome and I think the music is dogshit listened to by lots of people who tend not to be very intelligent or cultured. I don't mind a bunch of rednecks enjoying their thing just as they wouldn't relate to me enjoying my thing.

 

Everyone is different. It's a matter of taste and priorities.

[Averis]

Because only kids worry about social conventions. I don't find text on the Internet threatening. I'm stating that a world with more new people is far more enjoyable than a world with experts. It becomes a collective journey of discovery and learning vs. a bunch of seasoned players holding the hands of the new folks. It's a matter of what someone enjoys. You could love country music and tell me the southern community is really warm and awesome and I think the music is dogshit listened to by lots of people who tend not to be very intelligent or cultured. I don't mind a bunch of rednecks enjoying their thing just as they wouldn't relate to me enjoying my thing.

 

Everyone is different. It's a matter of taste and priorities.

 

Um... wow. Okay... I'm done.

[jwhyrock]

Because only kids worry about social conventions. I don't find text on the Internet threatening. I'm stating that a world with more new people is far more enjoyable than a world with experts. It becomes a collective journey of discovery and learning vs. a bunch of seasoned players holding the hands of the new folks. It's a matter of what someone enjoys. You could love country music and tell me the southern community is really warm and awesome and I think the music is dogshit listened to by lots of people who tend not to be very intelligent or cultured. I don't mind a bunch of rednecks enjoying their thing just as they wouldn't relate to me enjoying my thing.

 

Everyone is different. It's a matter of taste and priorities.

 

Um... wow. Okay... I'm done.

 

 

oops I guess someone likes country lol. Wrong analogy to make. What I find a little irritating about the people in your camp is the appearance of being "open" to people with other viewpoints, but yet have a holier than tho lofty attitude when someone disagrees with your perception on what game environment they prefer.

 

I'm opinionated and don't pretend I'm not. I want new world with new players add much as possible. I don't think my point of view on the subject is unusual if you read countless other posts online.

 

No one is poaching your people from you, but it does feel like your camp is being very pushy about where other players should be playing. Just sayin.

[Averis]

Haha, actually I don't like country music either, but I'm not going to argue with your attitude. That's why I'm done. The rest of your remarks couldn't be more off the mark in my case, but keep on making assumptions, I'm sure you'll make a lot of new friends that way on your new server.

[jwhyrock]

Haha, actually I don't like country music either, but I'm not going to argue with your attitude. That's why I'm done. The rest of your remarks couldn't be more off the mark in my case, but keep on making assumptions, I'm sure you'll make a lot of new friends that way on your new server.

 

 

Already do. We're not so hoity toity in our crowd. It's the uptight people in the rpg community that really turn off the folks who just wanna chill and enjoy the game. People can roleplay without a stick up their ass and it makes for a much more inclusive environment for those who don't roleplay or casual roleplay.

 

This is why we need a non legacy server to create our own community the way we want to with emphasis on roleplay and people who maybe just don't want Shout chat 24/7 "L337GUILD3RZ CLAN HIRING FREE COMPANY MEMBERS!!!! MUST HAVE LV 50 GEAR OR NOT WELCOME!!!"

 

There will be plenty people who stumble across this discussion and agree with me. Plenty will agree with you. Both opinions are fine.

[Jonexe]

I know I'm new here, and maybe I'm missing something; but I don't understand why any of this is an issue to anyone.

 

If you want to play on a new server, go play there. If you want to post about the RP going on there, and offer people an alternative, go do it.

 

The idea that a community has to choose whether or not to "support" another server is kind of... strange. The RPC here is not the "Balmung RP community" or the "Non-Legacy RP community". According to the logo at the top of my screen it's Hydaelyn Roleplayers Coalition... meaning all of them; combined. If 10 people decide they want to go play on Goblin or some other server... then who cares? Wouldn't they be just as free to post about the fun they're having here as the folks on Balmung?

 

If you have new players asking "where all the roleplayers at?!", then you tell them about the various servers. Hell, you could even have a sticky about it. It's not difficult to have a thread were people can post about the different groups on different servers. "Many people play on Balmung, but there's also a growing community on server X! Server Y has a small community, with a specific plot they're going for. Visit this thread if you want to know more about it." 

 

I understand that it may become more difficult for people on the new server(s) to have events... but that's up them to take up the reigns and lead the charge then. If the people on other servers don't want to... well that's their own problem then, isn't it? It's also not like you won't have some people that decide to play on both! 

 

In my mind, the arguing about servers is more likely to split the community than help it. You're going to have people feeling put out regardless of the decision that's made. I think it would be better for everyone, as a whole, if the community of this site was dedicated to FFXIV Roleplaying; anywhere and everywhere it's taking place.

[Blade]

The idea that a community has to choose whether or not to "support" another server is kind of... strange. The RPC here is not the "Balmung RP community" or the "Non-Legacy RP community". According to the logo at the top of my screen it's Hydaelyn Roleplayers Coalition... meaning all of them; combined. If 10 people decide they want to go play on Goblin or some other server... then who cares? Wouldn't they be just a free to post about the fun they're having here as the folks on Balmung?

 

That's pretty much exactly what this site is and supports. You nailed it pretty much on the head. The RPC has always supported roleplaying efforts on other servers; there's a reason why in the Linkshell Hall section you have the ability to specify which server you will be on. One linkshell has already declared that they will be on Hyperion, another Legacy server, for example.

 

So really, the community here at the RPC supports any roleplaying effort on any RP server. We tend to favor having everyone together, though, but by no means does that imply that we don't support roleplay efforts on other servers.

 

Given that Kylin has already said that we'll be voting for an official RPC non-legacy server... I'm a little bit confused why there are so many jabs being exchanged.

[Ellie]

I don't believe that I've never told anyone that they cannot have an opinion of their own. I might not be able to completely understand your opinion, and I might even think it's not very well thought out, but your opinions are yours to have.

 

And if it's the elitist "top tier gear only" crowd you're really worried about, I guarantee the new servers have them within a month. You're not going to get rid of them completely, even on a server that has a lot of console players on it. Besides, unless they've got a 1.0 character that they're really invested in, I can't imagine them passing up the opportunity to play PVP on a server made up mostly of console players (whom they might feel are inferior, and easy to win against).

 

That's just my take on it, though. I'm just saying that, considering the nature of MMO's you shouldn't get your hopes up about having a server with very few elitist jerks, legacy or not.