The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales

[Virella]

My tolerance for people not knowing their class is getting worse and worse. Really people, if you cannot do the basic thing of "keep my buffs up who increase my damage & keep my dots onto target" please remove yourself from duty finder

 

*tableflip*

 

My respect for the average MMO player has gone down my miles these past few years; so many people feel entitled to have their butts carried and cba to read up anything about their class x_X

[Kellach Woods]

TL;DR: Dear Gatherers - Yoshi P. is tired of you having it easy and wants you to put up with the same RNG crap and gil-sinking that your Crafter brethren have tolerated since 1.0. Please look forward to it.

 

Collectibles is like the worst possible idea I've ever seen for gatherers. Even for leveling it's wonky.

 

I still don't see how people can swear by collectibles for leveling crafting myself - Other than the fact that they're always able to be turned in, I'm kinda like whatevs.

[Kurt S.]

Ahh this is probably just a self inflicted nightmare but c'mon, is the drop rate for the Library chest piece really worse than the Demon Dragoon Mail from WoD? I have not stopped running and I swear I can put together 5 Monk sets, 3 WHM sets, 2 AST and NIN sets, complete with weapons. 

 

I just want my red sherlock coat so I can let go, level MCH and really start farming for tomestones of erotics.

[Gegenji]

Ahh this is probably just a self inflicted nightmare but c'mon, is the drop rate for the Library chest piece really worse than the Demon Dragoon Mail from WoD? I have not stopped running and I swear I can put together 5 Monk sets, 3 WHM sets, 2 AST and NIN sets, complete with weapons. 

 

I just want my red sherlock coat so I can let go, level MCH and really start farming for tomestones of erotics.

 

Those coats are notoriously stubborn. It took several runs for me to get my healer coat for Gogon's glamour. And I'm going to force inflict more of it on myself later for the other classes - I desire all the coats. Oddly enough, the only other one I have is the DRG one. :blush:

[Kurt S.]

Ahh this is probably just a self inflicted nightmare but c'mon, is the drop rate for the Library chest piece really worse than the Demon Dragoon Mail from WoD? I have not stopped running and I swear I can put together 5 Monk sets, 3 WHM sets, 2 AST and NIN sets, complete with weapons. 

 

I just want my red sherlock coat so I can let go, level MCH and really start farming for tomestones of erotics.

 

Those coats are notoriously stubborn. It took several runs for me to get my healer coat for Gogon's glamour. And I'm going to force inflict more of it on myself later for the other classes - I desire all the coats. Oddly enough, the only other one I have is the DRG one. :blush:

 

Hope the coats drop for you. 

 

I'm still on the prowl for the drg one for my level 26 LNC (wololol) aside from the red tank one. I swear if Kath/Kurt's color scheme just wasn't predominantly red....

 

Or yanno if I could trade those sets. Ah well.

[Melkire]

You wanna vent about horrifically bad drop rates? I'll vent about horrifically bad drop rates.

 

I've run the Vault more times than I can count by now. First time through as MNK from level 57 to 59. I never saw a single piece of MNK gear drop. It was always tank gear and other job scraps, and the tank would always need on the damned things.

 

Now I've been running through the Vault as WAR. I'm nearly 59 which means I'll be ditching Vault for Library soon. And you know what?

 

Not a single gods-damned left-side Inquisitor drop that I can use for glamour. Not since the axe dropped on my first run. Not ONE. It's been, what... twenty, thirty runs? I saw a belt, an earring, and a bracelet. That's been it.

 

Cannot wait to one day undersize this place and push their holy f***ing faces in. Ugh.

[Gegenji]

You should've seen the tizzy I drove myself into trying to get the Baldur Blade for Judge. I think I saw every other weapon at least once, with the PLD and WAR weapons making at least three appearances each (two of the PLD swords showing up IN THE SAME RUN), until I finally got it. Oh, and during the whole time I only saw two pieces of Terror Knight gear - belt (twice), and the legs near the end.

 

In doing all that, I nearly got enough Law to kit Judge out in full Law gear, minus a piece here and there. All to get a single weapon I only wanted for RP purposes. Then again, I'm pretty notorious for deciding the Most Difficult Thing is what I want for my character - Vulcan Lucis, for example. :blush:

[Kage]

I prefer (some of) the RNG of drops to my personal RNG of groups in Duty Finder.

 

Everyone tells me my (expert) roulette grumps are unbelievable.

 

Last two nights I got lazy and decided to just WAR my Expert roulettes. Neverreap was fine. The last boss was funny because the summoner just walked off. >>; I now understand how melee get triple twistered and vacuumed.

 

I had a good time in Fractal last night. They said I did fine etc. AST said it was a solid group. ALL I CARE ABOUT IS IF MY HEALER WAS OK WITH ME.

 

And then I got the WHM in Sastasha HM who let me drop so they could Holy while I am at 2k HP. Because DPS did not kill the 6 mobs in 4 GCDs the DPS was too low and they decided that they would just holy. I -think- the DRG DC'd and the SMN went "wtf" when the WHM told me "the dps don't have the AOE or don't know how" to do two-pack pulls. I said nothing while the SMN was like "you blame the dps for you holying and letting the tank die?"

 

WHM: "I prevented the wipe"

 

Me:

 

He did that on the second boss too. While all of us are stunned and getting ourselves out he just holy'd and died.

 

Oh well, shortcut.

[Warren Castille]

Wiped to Shiva HM because a healer died to avoidable mechanics repeatedly, up to and including standing behind the tank and dying to the cleave.

 

Got called a butthurt mad "jkid" in tells afterwards. Feels good.

[Aaron]

Not exactly a in game vent but uhh.

 

When you left your PS4 back at house so youre sitting here getting farther left behind in XIV stuff and will even miss grindstone again till probably the middle of next week.

 

Im glad im taking a break and all but I haven't played one video game since my vacation and it's killing me >_<

[Miryn]

Met my first Dork Knight while leveling BRD in Sohm Al. Dude had the Moogle sword equipped. That's a i75 weapon. I have the upgraded Ironworks bow. That's i130. There's a 55 ilvl difference between our weapons.

 

I asked him if he had a better sword and he said nope. Okay, then.

 

I ended up tanking at least one mob each pull because he couldn't hold everything and if I didn't have it, then it would be eating our healer. Sometimes the MNK had a mob too. If he'd at least put up Darkside maybe it would've been a bit better, but then again his MP bar was almost always full so perhaps not.

 

I also ended up peeling hate on every boss. With Quelling Strikes.

 

On one of our final boss attempts, he died and had the gall to blame the healer for "being slow". Buddy, if you just got an up-to-date weapon you'd have like 40 more Vitality. Why.

 

I just don't understand how someone gets this far on a Moogle weapon and think everything is hunky dory. The vendors in Ishgard sell i115 white weapons, even one of those would've been better.

 

Aaargh.

[Kage]

That sounds very much like a player problem. I probably would have just ducked out. Way too much frustration.

[Miryn]

The queue times though. ; ;

[111]

Actually, the vendors (for whatever reason) don't sell weapons for the new classes. At least I haven't seen them.

 

So its possible its just the best weapon he had. Perhaps They got to 50 pre heavensward, and just did the story quests before heading to ishgard.

[Miryn]

The DRK swords at least are sold in the bar area of the Forgotten Knight. And he had a lvl 60 NIN.

 

If he'd been trying I would've gone a little easier on him. But blaming other people first before looking at what he could've done better irritated the living hell out of me.

[111]

The DRK swords at least are sold in the bar area of the Forgotten Knight. And he had a lvl 60 NIN.

 

If he'd been trying I would've gone a little easier on him. But blaming other people first before looking at what he could've done better irritated the living hell out of me.

 

Oh, good to know! That means they must sell machinist weapons somewhere too <_<.

[Melkire]

The DRK swords at least are sold in the bar area of the Forgotten Knight. And he had a lvl 60 NIN.

 

If he'd been trying I would've gone a little easier on him. But blaming other people first before looking at what he could've done better irritated the living hell out of me.

 

Oh, good to know! That means they must sell machinist weapons somewhere too <_<.

 

The vendor in Skysteel.

 

I'm also pretty sure there's a i115 weapons vendor in Camp Cloudtop.

[Kellach Woods]

There's a i115 non-HQ vendor of everything in the Jeweled Crozier I believe.

[Kage]

Last night was interesting. About an hour before I had to log for sleep an LS-mate asked for a tank for Sohm Al in-progress.

 

I hate Sohm Al's fire/ice dragon pulls. Everything else is dandy but those pulls just. Ugh.

 

Anyway, we get to the 2nd boss. First pull, dps don't take down the green slime and ranged were the ones chosen for soak. So.... Green slime blows up and 2 people take a soak. Healer LS mate dies.

 

2nd pull Healer LS-mate dc's during. We somehow pull it out. As soon as I saw him back I popped Holmgang cause I didn't have anything but ... loading T_T; I die, I get rezzed and get the thing back but clutch actions and we pull it out with a win. IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FIGHT IS DONE THEY VOTE TO DISMISS HEALER-MATE. One guy apparently accidentally hit no and then initiated the vote dismiss. As soon as I hit "no" Healer LS mate poofed.

 

One says "ong ty"

My response was going to be a scathing something something about "really voting for harassment for a DC? And then AFK/OFFLINE?" But I instead just went "see ya" and left.

 

Oh well~ They were in together from Gilgamesh and in the same FC... and the Gundam Wing fanboi spelled Deathscythe wrong because I guess he was late to the name. HA... HAAAA

[Sounsyy]

I hate Sohm Al's fire/ice dragon pulls. Everything else is dandy but those pulls just. Ugh.

 

An easy way I've found to handle those pulls is to pull the trash that's present from max range and retreat back to the bottom of the hill with it. This will spawn the fire and ice dragons respectively, but as you're now out of their targetting range they won't aggro you or pelt you with aoes.

 

This trick works especially well for the ice dragon because the ice will melt and spawn every glacier sprite (non-aggro'd) while you finish trash at the bottom of the hill. This way when you do go up top and aggro the ice dragon and sprites, they all aggro simultaneously, leading to just one stacked, also simultaneous, explosion that's easy to dodge.

 

Hope this helps negate some of the chaos! ^^

[-no longer matters-]

I had a Titan EX group yesterday that DPS wouldn't turn to bust people out of the Gaols in time, and then the healers weren't paying attention to get in place in the back to we had both encasements on top of each other, I think the group made it past the heart phase like twice out of a bunch of tries. 

 

then we had a BLM that kept trying to abandon duty after every fail, til they finally just "DC'd" 

 

 

I swear one of these days I'm gonna finish the Extreme Primals to get my Balmung Sword... One of these days...

[Kage]

I hate Sohm Al's fire/ice dragon pulls. Everything else is dandy but those pulls just. Ugh.

 

An easy way I've found to handle those pulls is to pull the trash that's present from max range and retreat back to the bottom of the hill with it. This will spawn the fire and ice dragons respectively,  but as you're now out of their targetting range they won't aggro you or pelt you with aoes.

 

This trick works especially well for the ice dragon because the ice will melt and spawn every glacier sprite (non-aggro'd) while you finish trash at the bottom of the hill. This way when you do go up top and aggro the ice dragon and sprites, they all aggro simultaneously, leading to just one stacked, also simultaneous, explosion that's easy to dodge.

 

Hope this helps negate some of the chaos! ^^

 

Ohhh thank you Sounsyy!

 

It would also help if the DPS would not run up and just aggro all the things. With their presence.

[-no longer matters-]

I hate Sohm Al's fire/ice dragon pulls. Everything else is dandy but those pulls just. Ugh.

 

An easy way I've found to handle those pulls is to pull the trash that's present from max range and retreat back to the bottom of the hill with it. This will spawn the fire and ice dragons respectively,  but as you're now out of their targetting range they won't aggro you or pelt you with aoes.

 

This trick works especially well for the ice dragon because the ice will melt and spawn every glacier sprite (non-aggro'd) while you finish trash at the bottom of the hill. This way when you do go up top and aggro the ice dragon and sprites, they all aggro simultaneously, leading to just one stacked, also simultaneous, explosion that's easy to dodge.

 

Hope this helps negate some of the chaos! ^^

 

Ohhh thank you Sounsyy!

 

It would also help if the DPS would not run up and just aggro all the things. With their presence.

I'm a DRK so this pull is ridiculously easy, but what I do is take the first dragon to a corner where I can see the other two dragons land, I hit them with unmend as they land and start running a train and pop Shadowskin, until I have them gathered up, pop Blood Price, Dark Dance, DA/Dark Mind cast unleash after every siphon combo and just weave in and out of the AoEs. This stops your dps from pulling them, and as long as you use cool downs and dodge properly you should be able to mitigate the damage easy enough for your healer to breeze through it.

[Kage]

The fire dragon isn't really bad. Just puddles and a dragon add!

 

The problem is the ice dragon. DO I JUST GATHER EVERYTHING? DOES EVERYONE JUST IGNORE THE ICE? WHAT ARE WE ALL DOING HERE? As a tank, my first thought is "I NEED AGGRO ON ALL OF YOU" But the ice. What?

[-no longer matters-]

The fire dragon isn't really bad. Just puddles and a dragon add!

 

The problem is the ice dragon. DO I JUST GATHER EVERYTHING? DOES EVERYONE JUST IGNORE THE ICE? WHAT ARE WE ALL DOING HERE? As a tank, my first thought is "I NEED AGGRO ON ALL OF YOU" But the ice. What?

I do usually ignore the Ice and pull the Dragon away from it.