Gabineaux

If I report someone and have no chatlogs and no evidence they simply tell me I've reported something without enough information for them to do anything. I'm not saying it's justified I'm just saying wow, 6mil he's getting a ban but 200mil, 175mil, sliding by with astroglide home free. I got nothing to report. I have nothing but a name and why should I report someone if they're happy with their purchase? I'm appalled they paid that much and they thought it was fine, but my god. How did that much gil get by the GMs? Also, there's mountains of RP fcs that bought their houses for outrageous prices. Do we rally up and report each and every one of these fcs? Because it was against the rules? I'm not sure what happens to these plots. The live letter said these transactions are reversed but reddit has said the gil is gone... do we risk it? What makes you think they don't ban some of them when they catch them? Do you personally know all of those house sellers to confirm that? The same way, you are taking one single example of how badly any system can turn with some poor soul selling his house 6M and getting banned. That's a bit disingenuous I think. As said just above, it's a bit like saying because one guy stealing pocket money to an old lady in the street got into prison while a few groups doing a heist never got caught means by all logic and necessity that all little thiefs always get stomped and not the dangerous guys pulling big heists... What kind of logic is that? One example or two don't make a generality. Unless you have proofs of course. What we would call a consistent and sufficient pool of stats to show otherwise. In any case, why would SE only ban the smallest offenses and not the big ones? Because they are mean bullies? I actually do personally know three people who flipped houses frequently to make 300mil+ and I don't find it my business to report them as I have no in game evidence to report. I have nothing. I have no chat logs, no screenshots, I have nothing in-game and they do not take out of game information. If they took out of game information as fact, everyone would just report the names on the housing reddit and that would be that. I have 'hey look at that guy sold this plot for x amount of gil to this player' and they could go 'um ok'. I assume I'd need a lot more than that to get anything done. I'd probably need chat logs, relinquish date/time, and I just don't have any of that information. In one of these cases, I'm friends with the person. I'm not going to report my friend. With such large masses of gil being moved I am legitimately impressed nothing has been done to their account at all. Like I said before, GMs should be able to see this gil moving and they should be doing something about it. I mean, maybe they DO ban some? But ok, who? Where? I keep my ear to the ground when it comes to housing because goddamn, I want a large house, and I've never heard of any high rolling flippers getting banned yet. Just careless people who do their dealings in game. And if they're banned, what happens to their plots? Are they going to be on the timer when it comes back? Why give them that courtesy if they're banned? ..But wait, their bans are situational. Sometimes it's just a 24hr ban, or week, or month. It's not always a permaban. I want to say bans depend on how many prior offences someone has on their account. Sometimes your ban depends what kind of mood the GM is in. You can report win trading which is also very much against the rules and sometimes the GM doesn't even read the ticket and just tells you it's not against the rules to pvp. So honestly, I shouldn't be surprised. I do squint at the GMs. I don't hate the players, I hate the game's system. Everyone knows about the one fella who has a FC house on each character with fully decked out airships in each house.. and he also has a personal large. Honestly, I don't feel the need to report him. Why? It's not his fault the game let him do that. Why should I be upset with him when I should be more upset with the game for letting that be possible in the first place? I also have to consider that FFXIV is run with a skeleton crew. Everyone at SE is working on FFXV. They have barely anyone manning the stations on this poor MMO that deserves so much more attention. And all the attention they do give it is going in all the wrong places.. DOUBLE CROSS HOTBAR. DOUBLE CROSS HOTBAR.

See, the market economy and the housing economy are very different things. The market is very fast. I can see 5 items up, buy them up, and resell them the same day for double the price and that's perfectly fine and well. Or I can buy 3 items, price them very very high, wait for someone to undercut me and then I can undercut them and make a profit over a week or so. Not against any rules at all. I'm not talking about buying a house just to flip it for a profit. That guy didn't get a profit. Sure ok yes it's against the rules, so ban him, but why aren't the actual house flippers who already have 900mil+ from doing this NOT getting banned? I don't know where any profit relinquishing came from. I'm not sure where you were going with that. Then we got the people buying smalls for 20mil, selling for 60mil the same week. Keep an eye on reddit and you can see the same plot go up and down as someone tries to flip it again and again. 160mil a medium, far more for large and that is absolutely ridiculous. We all know there are people out there who buy only to flip. And they never flip cheap. How do you get proof of it to report it unless you're part of the deal and therefore on the chopblock yourself? Nothing is being done about those transactions. No one at SE is batting an eye. Why not? Why should anyone have to report a transaction of over 40mil gil at all? That doesn't show up on their side and raise any red flags of RMT? Why aren't they reinforcing their own rules? Why do we have to report them/have them report one another in the first place? You can try, certainly you can try, but you risk yourself reporting them by making a party finder saying you're buying. But HOW are these large masses of gil going by unnoticed? They just ..don't care. I don't know what else it is. Because houses are moving still. And for far more than they ever did before the 'NO HOUSE SELLING' rules came around. 15-20mil used to be standard for small houses but not anymore. I mean the last time I had to report someone for using slurs in a dungeon I literally had to look up the guy's server on lodestone for the GM. The chatlogs, timezone, location of my character was not enough. The GMs don't have the tools for this? They can't open up the lodestone and check the character's name for the server, and where that character was at the time? What kind of customer service are we paying them for? I've never been asked on any other mmo to do half of the GM's work for them. But it certainly somewhat explains why they also don't really care about all of this house flipping going on. Hopefully we get as many apartments as we think we're going to and here's hoping they're a little more than just private rooms.

I already posted that earlier oops. but WHY WOULDN'T THEY GIVE US THIS INFORMATION. I WANNA KNOW. I must know. I also want to know if there's a penthouse. I want to know if I can go on a balcony and have a garden. I guess not.

I don't think it is cruel. A small plot is what? 3M? The guy is making double that price, which makes the victim pay 3 times more than they would normally have. It can definitely be seen as extortion, and house sellers can already make a good margin with such prices. Granted, they sure probably ask a lot more now as you say, with the overall atmosphere and prices climbing up and all, but I really, really fail to see that as cruel. I would do it everytime, no matter what. If it was just making you pay the value of all the inside items and airships, and that only, I wouldn't mind. Were all those 4 airships fully upgraded and all? Or just the basic ones? I find it a bit cruel though on the behalf of the GMs not to at least reimburse the buyers, even if it's a bit of a Darwin Award here. Okay, they got to be the fools, they bought even if it goes against the rules, sure. But at the same time... well yeah. It's probably to teach them a lesson so they don't do it again. It's a bit harsh sure, but to cut on the selling market, cracking down on buyers and thus, market demand, is a good way to choke the market. Any full set of airship parts will cart you over 6mil, even if it's just bronco across the board on 4 ships. Just selling those parts on the market instead of using them would get you more than 6mil. The mats are cheap, yeah, just gathering all that crap and wrangling 3 people to stand there while you put it all together is.. well it takes a lot of time and effort even for more than one person. And if he had prototypes all unlocked, all sectors unlocked, that's just a gil printing factory that uses FC points you can get from running expert and handing the stuff you don't use in. It doesn't take much points. You don't need a full FC to keep that train running. That alone is worth more than 6mil. Insert FC points, take out gil. That 6mil would pay for itself in a couple of weeks depending on RNG/parts/sectors covered. If you want to factor all of THAT in, gil for gil, that price tag is going to end up a lot higher than 6mil depending on parts. You can also consider this. Small houses were more than 3mil before. 10mil? Were they 10mil? Or were they 15mil before? It may have also depended on the class of the plot. It would have heavily depended on which ward he was in. Remember, plots used to be expensive. So if anyone wants to make their money back on what they spent on their plot older than ward.. what, 9? 10? They simply cannot. Their gil is gone forever. Even waiting the timer out, someone who spent 80mil on a large plot will get a piddly 25mil(roughly? WAY LESS? 10MIL? No no it's 80%.) back. So the possibility that this person paid 15mil for the plot, then perhaps a lot more than that on airships is very real. Then he got BANNED for 6mil? That's not cruel? Just because he had a plot and didn't want to give away his hard work for absolutely nothing (which I think he kind of did anyway for 6mil) he deserves a ban? If you ask me, 6mil is still STUPIDLY reasonable. Especially when right now, on Balmung, a small plot goes from 20mil, to 60mil. Yes, 60mil. If you find a small plot for 6mil on Balmung from another player willingly HOLY CRAP you are lucky. If you want anything that isn't in the Goblet you are looking at 40-60mil for a small plot. Plain and simple. And that sucks. It really sucks. The more I think about it, the more I think merging smaller servers and offering free server transfers off of Balmung would be the answer. But I think the ps3 is really limiting that? I guess? Or merging low low pop servers is the mark of a dying mmo and nobody wants to hear about that/see that happen. And.. Why would a GM reimburse a buyer? Why is the buyer the victim? They wanted the plot? They handed over the gil? They reported the seller? No one in these transactions has the evidence to fully report anyone to get any action done besides the buyer or the seller. Why would the seller report the buyer when they got their gil? That makes no sense. And if they just pat the buyer and let them keep their gil, that's encouraging the market on one end and not the other. If there's buyers, there's sellers. I understand why they're doing what they're doing but it's really ...not very effective. And if they trick sellers and ban them, especially in these cases where it's actually very VERY reasonably priced plots, it's so bad for their business as an MMO. That's going to piss people off EVEN MORE than they already are on both sides of the fence. It's only pushed the shit off of party finder and onto tumblr/reddit/third parties even further. So much so, that there's hardly anything in game there to ban at all besides an in game relinquish and snap re-buy. All they have to go on now is a large exchange of gil from one name to another, and the same names relinquishing and re-buying. But who has the time to stalk the reddit, connect the names, stalk the wards, and report these people as an outside looking in? I think the way the GMs could catch them now, IF they cared to, was to look at someone trading 1mil 40+ times. The same way they catch RMT. ....I have given people more than 6mil for a loan before and never gotten banned though. Something weird went on there. The more more MORE I think about it.. The guy felt stiffed for 6mil? Changed his mind? The buyer said LOL TOO BAD? So the seller reported him? Or the buyer felt, I SPENT TOO MUCH WHEN THE PLOT IS 3MIL? ...DID HE GET HIS PLOT BACK THOUGH? No one says ANYTHING about what happens to these plots. NO ONE. I've sent PM and nobody replies. Do the plots just go up on open market? I have no clue! ...Because if these plots go up for open market, people will definitely start keeping a closer eye on that reddit. ....ALSO... does anyone know if you can have a personal house AND an apartment yet? LOL. Because man, I hope they MAKE you choose. It will just not make sense if they allow you to have both.

They are allegedly coming soon to the cash shop..? :dazed:

If you're unhappy with your character, I don't see the harm in changing things up? :thumbsup:

They do this already but there is nothing to report? No one gets banned unless something is relinquished and gil is exchanged. I guess they might get a slap on the wrist but keep this in mind, it is also against the rules to buy as well as sell. There's a reason the reddit for Balmung is so dry. Everyone tries to bait people. Barely any houses are moving at all but boy when they do.. 175mil for the last medium house in the mist I saw sold. (I actually knew of the fella who bought it. Grabbed my head and went WHY OH GOD WHY to the guy who bought, but it was something he REALLY wanted..) That's what happens when this kind of stuff goes down. It went further into the black market and the prices only went up for the risk. Why haven't they turned the timer back on yet? THAT I do not understand at all. Here is a reddit thread I found particularly interesting: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/4qb9s7/plot_sale_results_in_ban/d4s52jk Someone sold a small plot for 6mil. With 4 airships for 6mil and got a 24hr ban? 6mil total for all of that. The gil is gone, but people are somewhat unclear on what happened to the plot. The GM even agreed that it would cost someone far more than 6mil to make those 4 airships. Hilarious. I think it's kind of cruel to report someone for this kind of stuff if they are selling you a plot for 6mil, which to me, is a completely reasonable price. ESPECIALLY with four airships. There was NO profit made there. For a ridiculously high price, I get it. But if nothing is exchanged, and a GM is in a bad mood? You could get in trouble too. Especially since it seems like they are just TAKING gil away from buyers, not returning it.

If they just put free transfers off of Balmung so the non RPers who hate us could leave without paying their $$$ .... But no, something tells me they LIKE the server nice and full so people gotta dish out $$$ to get here.

I am really going to laugh if they let people have a personal house AND an apartment. I didn't see anything saying they couldn't or could. I mean, if the apartment is nice enough I could see some people selling their houses to get one. Why not? Not a lot of people who have personal houses even use the chocobo stables/garden and they cannot use the airships unless they have an FC. ....But wait, can an FC buy an apartment? But they would not be able to dye a chocobo there, or garden. But could they have an airship workshop? :lol: Probably not. I am guessing it's just personal rooms but a little bit bigger.

It's a valid question, a lot of people nodded and smiled happily when Shantotto and Lightning appeared. A lot of people made their stories for their FFXI characters to be in FFXIV and everyone said sure why not. I think it's all a bit ridiculous but whatever if you're having a good time do what you do.

Remember kids, no matter what you're doing in this game, pve, pvp, RP? If you're a healer and anything goes wrong.. it's YOUR fault!

Aaah it's Myllor, the guy who makes all my music rolls! :lol: ...AND MY RAID LEADER SHE'S EVERYWHERE! XENEDRA'S EVERYWHERE! It all looks so wonderful. If I had extra money I'd commission you to draw my lousy character.

Yeesss.

Or is it You-kai like the url suggests? We knew it was coming, but were we prepared for it to have THIS MUCH STUFF TO OBTAIN? http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/2016/youkai-watch/

I'm sometimes really busy. But if I'm not busy and I just see someone RP walking alone or otherwise, I'll walk over and FIND a reason for my character to say hi. Their outfit, maybe if they emote, something in their expression. I find I am ALWAYS walking up. Nobody ever walks up to me. LOL but there is hardly a time I leave my character standing around someplace. I MAKE myself walk up to people because otherwise I'd never meet anyone new! There are some good ideas here though. I rarely look at search info or company info. It HAS lead to some pretty hilarious RP though. You know, the kind of search infos you see and automatically assume 'this person will not RP with me because I'm not a female character or what they're looking for'? ..Well, sometimes they'll RP with you anyways and sometimes it's a hilariously awkward treat.

I fuckin.. I fuck.. FUCK. Just fuck. :frustrated:

I met two people from my FC. We met in Vegas but not for fanfest, I went there for my birthday! It was a lot of fun, we spent a week there. I've known them since.. 2005? 2006? We've played all kinds of MMOs together but I only recently met them, it was really awesome to finally see them in real life as we've always mailed one another christmas packages and stuff like that.

The moogles in the churning mists have chosen to show themselves to people. I wanna say Estineneneineneien was all surprised and "wtf" when he saw them.

That still seems kind of overboard, doesn't it? Is there really going to be someone looking at each individual picture to make sure each individual person has each issue? edit: on second thought maybe I shouldn't ...I SHOULDN'T POST THAT LMFAO NAAWW NOOO NAAHHH NUH UUHHH

There are a few furniture items that are 'untradable' such as the stuffed tonberry that MUST be placed down in a house and picked up by someone else to be 'traded'. Other than that, yeah, you can throw stuff in an FC chest.

Canada: Lumped in with the USA. Buy something, ANYTHING from Amazon.com that will ship to Canada. If it's over $20, well deal with it. It will most likely be over $20. If it never arrived.. (in my case) too bad. I paid $65 for in game items I guess? lol. Never got the game I ordered. They won't refund me or re-send the game until the item they allegedly shipped returns to them. It arrived in Canada two weeks ago, never saw anything. Nothing on the door, nothing at the post office. Nothing at all. Called Amazon twice, they said too bad, this is the policy blah blah. Dealing with American Amazon has always been in a pain in the ass to me. Always. In my case I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped the game on my doorstep and walked off, not waiting for a signature and someone walked by and picked it up. In that case that's just Canada's shitty postal service. :roll: But hey at least I didn't have to take a picture of myself for strangers. I'll take over paying $40 over that. That's just strange. Why the fuck do they need pictures of people?

Usually Arvid will sit somewhere and eavesdrop, listen, stare into space, drink something and wait for something to laugh at/butt his head into the conversation over. Sometimes people get pissed off and tell my character to fuck off, I don't take it personally. That's a legit thing to say to someone who's eavesdropping and laughing at you. Other times when my character tries to insert himself into the conversation he gets ignored.. that's when you just find a different conversation to get involved in. Sometimes, well, usually, it's a conversation in the Quicksand my character got ignored from that is SO OUTRAGEOUS that you can just walk up to someone who is RP walking and go 'YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT I HEARD THOSE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S LITERALLY INSANE!' ...Other people's RP can make RP hooks for you. :lol: Or, there is the ever favourite, 'There's nowhere else to sit in here. Do you mind if I sit at this table with you?' Sit down, have your character eat/drink something, do some small talk and you might suddenly have a new friend. ...That's pretty much how I met my RP friend two years ago and we've been RPing ever since.

Good to know, since...you can't re-watch the in-game thing can you? You have to record it yourself.

The video is rather disturbing, just a heads up. Massive Attack, Young Fathers - Voodoo In My Blood

What should I name my bellsprout? I don't know... and I have a nidoran girl named Feminist don't worry. The Raticate is "Top %" because come on, I mean. Yeah.