The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales

[Aaron]

Dear people who use PF,

 

I don't understand why you do it or who the hell would do this in the first place. But having a PF up that says "IC Pedophile looking for lalafell." Is not only fucked up no matter how you look at it. But it is also leads people to think you need to be put in a mental hospital irl. Like seriously,  what. the. fuck.

 

I haven't logged on for the rest of the entire day because of this. That seriously creeper me the fuck out.

 

I shoulda screenshotted it but I was too busy unplugging my PlayStation and getting the fuck off the internet.

[Viola]

For not-game-related things, there's the rant thread here as well.

 

Well, it's kinda game related, since it deals with the game.

 

However, fair enough. ('-' )

[Chris Ganale]

I have no idea what you're on about, Kellach.

[Kellach Woods]

I have no idea what you're on about, Kellach.

 

"I hope a GM eats your ass for being a petulant twit."

[Kage]

Dear people who use PF,

 

I don't understand why you do it or who the hell would do this in the first place. But having a PF up that says "IC Pedophile looking for lalafell." Is not only fucked up no matter how you look at it. But it is also leads people to think you need to be put in a mental hospital irl. Like seriously,  what. the. fuck.

 

I haven't logged on for the rest of the entire day because of this. That seriously creeper me the fuck out.

 

I shoulda screenshotted it but I was too busy unplugging my PlayStation and getting the fuck off the internet.

 

There's also that stuff about eating lalafell and I'm just. What the ever living fuck. No thank you. I don't want to see that shit in PF.

[Nebbs]

 

.....

 

(basically, if you got something that peeved you for no reason, or feel like it's not a great reason but need to vent, post here)

 

 

My vent would be negativity feeding negativity. Sure we all want/need to vent but what we need after that is to find something positive and publicise that, or at least ask others what they do like about the game.

 

So if folks want to vent, please try to add something good afterwards.

 

negative + negative = vicious spiral.    Just say no!

 

[Alothia]

So, I'm frustrated because someone whom I thought was gone has come back and it worries me. I had a hard time falling asleep last night because of it. It just makes me uncomfortable and anxious and nervous. I hate feeling like I'm going to have to hide to avoid said person.

 

On the bright side, I have a great FC of people who understand my struggles and are really supportive of keeping me safe and sane.

[Gegenji]

.....

 

(basically, if you got something that peeved you for no reason, or feel like it's not a great reason but need to vent, post here)

 

My vent would be negativity feeding negativity. Sure we all want/need to vent but what we need after that is to find something positive and publicise that, or at least ask others what they do like about the game.

 

So if folks want to vent, please try to add something good afterwards.

 

negative + negative = vicious spiral.    Just say no!

 

Hopefully all the other threads and such should help with that! Talking about what you love about the game, theorizing, and other such things. This one specifically, though, is for complaining about that healer who was playing limbo with your life total (HOW LOW CAN YOU GO) or that Garuda EX run that was marked as a "farm group" that can't even manage to get her past half health.

 

Fortunately, we seem to have managed to avoid the aforementioned vicious spiral - mostly, I believe, due to people complaining... some folks agreeing and/or commenting (seriously or jokingly) about it... and then moving on to the next bit of venting. Everyone seems to be keeping on the straight and narrow about it, so I don't see any need for any additional rules or policing of the thread at the moment.

 

Of course, if people start veering away from that, you bet I'll say something. :thumbsup:

[Kurt S.]

You ever have those days where you just can't help but think the system is out to get you and does what it can to make your runs miserable?

 

For example, 2nd boss of WP HM. 'Oh, Keil, you're actually not being a trashy drg kitty! You know what you reward is? We'll drop all the frog totems right up your ass and literally surround you with them. Enjoy." 

 

Last boss of AK HM. 'Wow, you're actually stealing aggro from the STR WAR Tank that's better geared than you, better bind you to the floor and drop 3 death scythes on your face...every..damned...time.'

 

1st boss of AK HM 'Oh my, you haven't stopped critting haven't you kitty? Why don't I just keep tagging you with the orb of death...also enjoy input and aoe lag!"

 

'Ah you want the picaroon maiming armguard and chestpiece? But you seem to be wanting it so much so let's give it to the other, BLATANTLY DREADWYRM'D, DRG why don't we? So what if you're still wearing pieces of Wolframs amirite?'

 

No, no stories about horrible players. Sadly.

[Aduu Avagnar]

So, I'm frustrated because someone whom I thought was gone has come back and it worries me. I had a hard time falling asleep last night because of it. It just makes me uncomfortable and anxious and nervous. I hate feeling like I'm going to have to hide to avoid said person.

 

On the bright side, I have a great FC of people who understand my struggles and are really supportive of keeping me safe and sane.

As I said before, whose legs am i breaking?

[Nebbs]

.....

 

(basically, if you got something that peeved you for no reason, or feel like it's not a great reason but need to vent, post here)

 

My vent would be negativity feeding negativity. Sure we all want/need to vent but what we need after that is to find something positive and publicise that, or at least ask others what they do like about the game.

 

So if folks want to vent, please try to add something good afterwards.

 

negative + negative = vicious spiral.    Just say no!

 

Hopefully all the other threads and such should help with that! Talking about what you love about the game, theorizing, and other such things. This one specifically, though, is for complaining about that healer who was playing limbo with your life total (HOW LOW CAN YOU GO) or that Garuda EX run that was marked as a "farm group" that can't even manage to get her past half health.

 

Fortunately, we seem to have managed to avoid the aforementioned vicious spiral - mostly, I believe, due to people complaining... some folks agreeing and/or commenting (seriously or jokingly) about it... and then moving on to the next bit of venting. Everyone seems to be keeping on the straight and narrow about it, so I don't see any need for any additional rules or policing of the thread at the moment.

 

Of course, if people start veering away from that, you bet I'll say something. :thumbsup:

 

 

Apologies this was not a comment on or even in this topic, but an OP in another thread. *hugs* carry on venting

[Addison]

I might be a healer, and therefore kinda sorta responsible for you. But I can't physically pick up the DPS and move them out of the AEs. I can't hold hate for the tank. I can't be expected to keep you alive if you can't even have the patience to let me properly buff the group before you try to prove how much of a badass you are by pulling without Protect or Stoneskin.

 

I realize the cool thing to do is pick on the healer when people die. I realize picking on the new kid on the block makes you some kind of hipster and that's my "rite of passage" or whatever. But I can't do my job if you're not doing yours. And no, asking "Addison r u even healing bro" is not ok. Nor is it funny. So just stop.

[Chris Ganale]

'Ah you want the picaroon maiming armguard and chestpiece? But you seem to be wanting it so much so let's give it to the other, BLATANTLY DREADWYRM'D, DRG why don't we? So what if you're still wearing pieces of Wolframs amirite?'

 

Many a tale of t2 BLM farming is echoed here.

[Kellach Woods]

Derpgoon shoulda elusive jump'd moar.

 

Dying three times to Einhander should autokick you from the instance and immediately put your party into PF as a forgiveness measure.

 

Keep in mind, I asked if everyone knew the fight, and they all said yes.

[Dravus]

I really detest players who are kitted out fully in high end gear and then need on everything that drops when there's another of the same class who is in dire need of using it as a genuine upgrade. It's ridiculous how many times I've run Crystal Tower with my partner only to see him miss out on gear because of greedy individuals who don't even need it.

[FreelanceWizard]

Unfortunately, until everyone plays nice like that, the behavior will persist. No one wants to get screwed repeatedly out of something they want for glamour because people who don't need it for anything other than seals or desynthesis keep rolling Need on it.

 

What I've found works really well is to ask at the start of the instance if you need stuff. A simple "hey, all of the gear here is an upgrade for me, would you mind if I have it if it drops?" goes a long way. I've never actually seen anyone turn that request down, and I run a lot of instances.

[cuideag]

Dear WAR in KotL with 8K HP Buffed,

 

I didn't get to examine your gear until after we wiped twice and you had obviously swapped something because suddenly you had just shy of 10K. Thank you for that! It helped! But you know what else really helps when you are wanting to pull multiple groups and want to have an easier time holding threat and not dying?

 

Cooldowns. Please, use your cooldowns. They're not just for bosses!

 

Love,

cuideag

[Arter Wood]

Off-topic posts to threads that are asking for RP, a guild, free company, whatever have at you. I've seen so many of these posts and it infuriates me - not only do those people ruin the point of the thread but they take it out of the OP's hands. Delete other people's posts in the thread? Yes pleeeease.

 

[Rakoh]

I think I have finally managed to translate Party Finder Language.

 

• "Clear Party" = "I don't know how to do this"
  
• "Learning Party" = "I really don't know how to do this and don't want to admit it"
  
• "Watch a video" = "I really have no fucking clue how to do this and expect you to watch a MrHappy video and explain it all to me"
  
• "Looking for a Clear for a Friend = "7 People need the clear and we all don't know what we are doing"
  
• "Farm Party" = "Everyone is going to leave after the first clear."
  
• "Stay for more than one run" = "I'm going to leave as soon as I win the Pony"
  
• iLv120 for a iLv95 Raid = "I want to be carried"
  
• "X Strikes = Kick" = "I am going to kick you for my fuck ups"
  
• "G>N" = "I am going to need and leave when the thing I want drops"
  
• Steps of Faith Clear Party = "I have no friends"
  
• "Carry Party" = "I have 7 people that want to be carried by you, an we are too cheap to pay a Merc Group to do it."
  
• "3-3-2, Tank Marks" = "I don't know what I am saying and want to sound like I know what I'm doing"
  
• "No Sol bonus" = "I'm too cheap to buy a carry"
  
• "Extreme Farm Party" = "I still don't have the clear despite this being around since Last Year/1.0, and I'm too afraid to admit it"
  
• "X Item Locked" = "I'm going to sit here in PF and refuse to take someone willing to help because they can roll on this item too"
  
• "No Timewasters" = I'm going to waste your time and disband the party after 1 wipe."
  
• "First time doing this" = "First time doing this."
  

[Aaron]

I think I have finally managed to translate Party Finder Language.

 

• "Clear Party" = "I don't know how to do this"
  
• "Learning Party" = "I really don't know how to do this and don't want to admit it"
  
• "Watch a video" = "I really have no fucking clue how to do this and expect you to watch a MrHappy video and explain it all to me"
  
• "Looking for a Clear for a Friend = "7 People need the clear and we all don't know what we are doing"
  
• "Farm Party" = "Everyone is going to leave after the first clear."
  
• "Stay for more than one run" = "I'm going to leave as soon as I win the Pony"
  
• iLv120 for a iLv95 Raid = "I want to be carried"
  
• "X Strikes = Kick" = "I am going to kick you for my fuck ups"
  
• "G>N" = "I am going to need and leave when the thing I want drops"
  
• Steps of Faith Clear Party = "I have no friends"
  
• "Carry Party" = "I have 7 people that want to be carried by you, an we are too cheap to pay a Merc Group to do it."
  
• "3-3-2, Tank Marks" = "I don't know what I am saying and want to sound like I know what I'm doing"
  
• "No Sol bonus" = "I'm too cheap to buy a carry"
  
• "Extreme Farm Party" = "I still don't have the clear despite this being around since Last Year/1.0, and I'm too afraid to admit it"
  
• "X Item Locked" = "I'm going to sit here in PF and refuse to take someone willing to help because they can roll on this item too"
  
• "No Timewasters" = I'm going to waste your time and disband the party after 1 wipe."
  
• "First time doing this" = "First time doing this."
  

You forgot

 

"Know what you are doing" - im gonna join this because im sure everyone thats not me knows what to do and its a easy carry.

 

As if my sudden achievement poster at the end if I clear WONT alert everyone I got carried. Oh well its too late by then.

[Kellach Woods]

yup. i'd rather not do 'em than go through PF at this point.

 

server's PF is ass

[Dravus]

yup. i'd rather not do 'em than go through PF at this point.

 

server's PF is ass

 

I feel like comments like this do the server a major disservice. There's plenty of excellent groups available through the party finder and I've successfully cleared most of the content I set out to do largely because of the existence of solid groups available through the party finder.

 

Is it hit and miss? Definitely! Yet I'm inclined to believe it's less a case of the party finder being useless and more a matter of some people giving up too easily or experiencing a handful of bad groups and then letting the bitterness arising from those experiences dictate how they see what is a very useful tool.

[Kurt S.]

Rant.

 

Sure my problem's definitely attributed to my location and time.

 

But seriously queues...what in the flying fuck are you doing?

 

No, not queues to get into balmung I've come to terms with that.

 

What I mean is what fuck is up with all of these dungeon queues. I just cant seem to find dps to run haukke with. Yes, fucking haukke fucking normal fucking mode. 

 

Yes I know everyone wants to be a fucking bleeding edge dorge knight, hell im one of those fucks. But seriously? No one fresh enough to come in as a blm, drg, mnk, brd, smn or nin? No one remotely interested in mch at all? Maybe there are a lot who are/do but my timezome just doesnt fucking agree with it.

 

Honestly this ticks me off worse than the connection errors I have to balmung and even my shit internet in general.

 

Fuckadoodle doo

 

/endrant

 

Sorry, going on 3 hours sitting in queue with no luck is just frustrating. I mean did they swap Haukke manor for the frontlines or wolf's den while I wasnt looking?

 

I'll just step away from Tanking for a week or 2.

[D'ly]

If you don't want to wait for people to watch a MSQ cutscene for a dungeon(especially when its apart of the expansion that just came out), then go run it with a full party instead of using duty finder then whining.

[Caspar]

I don't whine usually in here. However, I must stress that it is important to be understanding when others point areas in which your play can improve. I feel this game is not truly difficult. There's no natural at it and no player who is innately less skilled due to something physical or mental. Even the best players can lose focus and become impatient, so emotions too aren't a barrier to becoming skilled if properly controlled. I think that the players who I've met who were deficient were without exception ones who didn't feel interested in even so much as entertaining the criticism of others. If a melee politely suggests you do not tank their targets in the middle of a nigh-instant death aoe pool, you should consider moving it, rather than sarcastically replying "I'm aware, thank you." The player who refuses to learn and demands more of the game than what they put into it is invariably the least skilled, that's all.