Balmung Restriction Discussion

[Dravus]

And this is why the official forums are never a good tool in any game.

 

To be fair the same problems that affect the official FFXIV forum can be found here at times. It just doesn't bubble to the surface as often or directly as it does over there. The only reason I don't post on the official site frequently is due to how clunky the site feels. It also lacks the close knit feel that I grew used to back when I role-played in WoW. It's a shame that there aren't realm exclusive boards over on the official site to help bring together the community.

[Naunet]

...I think this is also why our zones are massive. 

 

Ahahahahahaha... wat. This can't be serious!

 

Was 1/4 joking with the transfer money thing. Though people paying them certainly doesn't encourage them to change stuff. My main point was that it can't possibly be a hard character cap that's causing the problem. SE trying to direct the flow of traffic makes some sense, but it's a very heavyhanded way (especially since they don't even let players already on the server make alts).

[Unnamed Mercenary]

...I think this is also why our zones are massive. 

 

Ahahahahahaha... wat. This can't be serious!

 

Was 1/4 joking with the transfer money thing. Though people paying them certainly doesn't encourage them to change stuff. My main point was that it can't possibly be a hard character cap that's causing the problem. SE trying to direct the flow of traffic makes some sense, but it's a very heavyhanded way (especially since they don't even let players already on the server make alts).

 

oh, no. You caught a typo. I very much meant to type "aren't". On that note, I'm going to fix that ASAP. 

 

But I meant in more in say, a comparison to 1.0 and 2.0. The zones in 1.0 were massive. If we had similar congestion and if the game was still using crystal tools, we'd have been screwed. (there was a reason 1.0 had like, a 20 rendered chracters max limit). ...we see the same happen with fates. ...plop a ps3 user down where Odin spawns. Watch the DCs.

 

I agree that it's likely not a hard cap, since such a case would be kinda amazing in itself. But I do think we're probably getting too close for comfort from a stability perspective. The networking code and architecture for this kinda stuff has WAY more variables than we can really discuss, unless someone is a network engineer. And even then, we don't know how SE's is set up. 

 

As such, the most we can do is keep bothering them about it, but it likely won't change until it becaomes a problem on other server as well.

[Kellach Woods]

I don't build things. I break things so they can make it better.

 

Which is why I'm not happy about whatever it is they did.

[Unnamed Mercenary]

I don't build things. I break things so they can make it better.

 

Which is why I'm not happy about whatever it is they did.

 

Lemme put it this way then. 

 

If you don't know how something is built, how can you effectively break it t show its flaws?

 

The restrictions are in place because they were deemed necessary for a certain standard of gameplay. (Or the Balmung gates would be wide open). ...It might be for the best that we can't get a flood of new people. It does certainly keep more of the bots out than the servers left open. (Even if we get that occasional one or two)

[Naunet]

(Even if we get that occasional one or two)

 

From accounts, it's doing a piss poor job at keeping bots out.

[Kellach Woods]

Lemme put it this way then. 

 

If you don't know how something is built, how can you effectively break it t show its flaws?

 

Tell that to the people who employ me

 

But really, knowing the nuts and bolts is just for my curiosity on this. It's just that all we can really do is express ourselves as customers on a forum that's hostile to us.

[allgivenover]

Edit: Nevermind, my source asked me to delete this post.

[Delilah Scythewood]

From accounts, it's doing a piss poor job at keeping bots out.

 

Yeeaahhh. I see bots EVERYWHERE.

[Kage]

Based on the images I see on Reddit, other worlds have it just as much. Maybe worse. Honestly, I see the bots everywhere same as before. It hasn't been an onslaught of suddenly more bots for me.

[Khoure]

Not to get involved with the discussion, but I thought it'd be relevant to note: Balmung opened up, at least as early as 2:57 am pst, which is when I checked and made my character. Still open now, which is why I decided to put my other character on as well.

 

I didn't really want to post in this thread since I'm very new to RP and all, but yeah, it's been open for approximately half an hour so far. So either today is a lucky day or it's not actually that impossible to get on. I haven't been trying very long, so I don't know how real the struggle is lmao. Personally, I understand the restricting of the first Balmung character, but I think it's a bit weird that they restrict people with characters already on Balmung (seeing as you can only be logged onto one at a time) but then again, I don't know how servers work at all.

[Oscarlet Oirellain]

I just finally made my character on Balmung after waiting a week. I can't believe I actually saw it open!

[Kellach Woods]

Yeah, it seems like there's been a few days lately where it actually opens.

[Kismet]

At the time of this post, Balmung is still currently open (Gilgamesh is, too)! I repeat, Balmung is open!

[Izayoi]

Now it sucks to be at work all of a sudden :frustrated:

[Berrod Armstrong]

*Sits here with his 8 characters on the server since before Christmas*

 

...ayep.

 

 

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM!

[Desu Nee]

*Has 5 alts still level one just in case*

 

 

I think you guys are paranoid.

[Kage]

*Sits here with his 8 characters on the server since before Christmas*

 

...ayep.

 

 

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM!

 

Unfortunately it was right before Christmas when it become much harder to get a character or alt into Balmung.

 

Anyway, it seems that Balmung has been opening Mid Weekday 3-5am PST.

[Verranicus]

I got my friend on the server this morning around 6AM EST. It's definitely doable.

[Kailia]

well unfortunately last night I was in bed asleep. 3 days running trying to get the alt made, left me exhausted. Tonight though, I hope is the night that the server opens up again.

[Kailia]

Well server is open as of 3:53 AM PST. So it looks like I was just trying on a bad set of days (Weekend and monday lol) and looks like mid-week at a time when the sun aint even thought of coming out yet, is the best times for people to make chars.

 

But regardless, it's going to be hells making an Au Ra in the expansion, unless they do something.

[Kage]

and looks like mid-week at a time when the sun aint even thought of coming out yet, is the best times for people to make chars

This has basically been the case for... half a year now? I don't remember exactly -when- the restrictions started to be the case but it's been awhile that the only times I could create a character on Balmung was to wake up early at 4am-5am PST and make it.

 

May? Sometime when kage became a Manqote. I think we started to have to try to caution friends and direct them how to create a character around then.

[Naunet]

Well server is open as of 3:53 AM PST. So it looks like I was just trying on a bad set of days (Weekend and monday lol) and looks like mid-week at a time when the sun aint even thought of coming out yet, is the best times for people to make chars.

 

But regardless, it's going to be hells making an Au Ra in the expansion, unless they do something.

 

It's also rather unacceptable that the only way to really make a new character on Balmung is to destroy one's sleep for a night. ;

[Kurt S.]

*Laughs at the fact that he can churn out an alt after most dinnertimes.*

 

*Only has 5 characters*

 

*Is not maximizing his opportunities v.v*

[Kage]

It's also rather unacceptable that the only way to really make a new character on Balmung is to destroy one's sleep for a night. ;

Gilgamesh is under the same time constraints, though not as strict (instead of Balmung's 'some days at 3am-5am PST' it is pretty much all weekdays).