Shoshopu

Alright! I mean, that's fine. I was just wondering if perhaps you (and many others I'm sure; when I'm RPing with people I don't know outside my FC, I say Shopu's only fought Leviathan, since that's the only egi she has anyway) were overestimating how uncommon primal-summonings occur, and people need to take 'em down when it happens, so... It's a totally cool thing to build a story around and it actually sounds like we're basically on the same page. But I just like to make sure before I go assuming things and jumping in (and then I went and wrote my assumption-based thoughts anyway, but) Shopu certainly hasn't even come close to 1v1ing them WoL style, I'd humm at that too, and Shopu especially would, considering how tough her company found it with a party of at least, like, ten. also!! sorry if my tone came off as argumentative? I really didn't mean to sound like I was trying to start an argument, just trying to figure out why you thought that D% As someone who's put a lot of time and thought into their IC summoner, whenever Summoner discussions come up I'm basically ready to go "It's not one of the 'untouchables' like WHM, and here's why". It's a fun thing to RP so it's, like... if people think they can't be one I'd like to let them know they can? I know this thread is about like... summoning other stuff and not "Summoners" but I'm looking for threads about it right now if OP's interested in that. I know specifically the discussion of ICly fighting primals has come up somewhere so I'm still nosing around.

Is this sarcasm? I'd rather ask than assume and say what I'm thinking of saying. (especially since Zach was said to be AT the battle, if not ACTUALLY FIGHTING, so he wasn't even fighting he was just present at one?) Well, if it's not sarcasm, I guess i'll go ahead-- my character has totally also fought IC primals, too. She has a Leviathan-egi. It's a discussion that's happened in other threads and I could go look to find them, but it's totally plausible. It's not something that happens VERY OFTEN and it's not something to be taken lightly but it's not an extremely crazy thing either.

"She's really tall! And kind of strange... but I think she means well."

Matoya's Cave!!! Although the music for the Alexander bosses (idk if it's all the bosses, I've only done the first two floors) is also really cool!

Yikes. I'm sorry if the hair you like isn't getting the votes you feel like it should, but there's no reason to be so rude about it. Also apparently only the last vote you make counts, so T_T I'm gonna have to go back and pick just one, it looks like. Phooey. Went back and voted 3 for female, 4 for male... it was a tough choice between 4 and 23 but I feel like 4 is the one I'd most likely use so I'll cross my fingers.

So far my favorites are male hairstyles that I wish would be unisex TT_TT Female hair #18 is probably the one I'd most want to win but it's probably not, which is really sad... I ended up Liking (that's how we vote right)? multiple ones in each category oops, just the ones I'd want to happen the most 2, 3, 18, 25 for females. Of these I think the Faris hair is my favorite. 4, 9, 14 and 23 for males. Of these I like 23 the best.

Really? Because here, people do that all the time. Seriously - all the time. In fact, if you don't smile and acknowledge people here, you are considered to be rude and snobbish. I hate to spoil the joke, but the article is the from the Onion...

I've been reading about the MBTI for years and I think it's a great character-writing tool! From the outset I assign a type to my characters because it really helps me get into their head and figure out how they figure things out. I used to test as ISFJ usually but on the fence with INFP, when I was in high school, but these days I think I'm pretty strongly INFP. I had some unhealthy tendencies towards some people in high school that I think often skewed my results towards ISFJ based on how questions were written on tests. Where the MBTI gets really interesting (and especially useful) is when you get past just the letters and get into the functions. The first test I ever took directed me towards Typelogic and I've kept it bookmarked ever since. It gives a decent functional analysis for each type after the general descriptive write-up. As for my characters... Shoshopu is ENFP, and Awyrbyrt is ESTJ. Just in case Arkamas doesn't lurk into this thread, Fyrilsunn has developed into a pretty solid ISTJ. I tried to get him to pick a type for Fyrilsunn at the beginning the way I do, but there were two he couldn't decide between, so he just did whatever and wound up there. The player himself we reckon is INTP. Rarely-sees-the-light-of-public-RP Dyrstswys is ISFJ and Lahzlona is..... undecided, she's a mess, I made the mistake of not deciding early on and now I need to analyze the actions she's taken thus far and figure it out

*glances around warily*.... ... *bumps thread* (I really, really like Fen'rin's card mechanically. And Ferai's artistically.)

I don't know if this has been posted about before, but for some reason if a YouTube URL shows up in a forum post at all, no matter what tags it's surrounded by (or even if there are no tags around it), it'll embed the video in the post and potentially eat up other text around it after automatically reformattting on its own. That's frustrating to me and defeats the purpose of even having tags, if just putting a YouTube video's url in a post does the same thing. Sometimes I just want to put a video in a [/url] tag, y'know? Especially if I want to link multiple videos in the same post. Putting it inside a or [/code] tag seems to be the only way to prevent it from doing that.

I'm a little surprised nobody's mentioned Hamon's quest dialogue in the level 5 pugilist quest, Harder than Rock... 500 gil (which you pick up right off the street, but Hamon seems surprised that you found so much) is good for "a week's worth of..." something. Food? A stay at an inn? A good inn? Unfortunately he trails off there, so it's not entirely helpful, I suppose, but it's the one example of a NPC describing a specific amount of gil and approximating its value that I can remember off the top of my head... and there might be more examples out there if anybody feels like digging. edit: why are youtube videos so friggin' hard to link on this forum. No, I didn't want to embed the video...

Born in magic, the ancient city of Amdapor lived in splendor and died in agony. As the Fifth Astral Era gave way to the Sixth Umbral and the ensuing catastrophe, the agent of Amdapor's destruction slept. Now, the seal that has held so long is softening like windfallen fruit─and what blind worms writhe underneath the skin of the dead city? Amdapor was not always thus afflicted. Indeed, the city once owed an age of prosperity to the benevolent art of white magic. But that was before the War of the Magi. It is told that the enemies of the Amdapori abandoned all caution in their pursuit of victory, and used their dark magicks to summon a king among demons. -E-Sumi-Yan The civilization of Amdapor was the birthplace of White Magic, which I believe was developed as a counter to Shantotto's black magic. It was destroyed during the War of the Magi. The way the quotes I find tell it, Amdapor's enemies summoned Diabolos upon the city, where he was apparently sealed until the Calamity weakened the seal (which is where the player steps in for the dungeon), but only after royally screwing it up. A friend of mine is really interested in Amdapor lore and although she doesn't remember exactly what the ingame sources of this information are, when I asked her, she said her impression of it was that the amount of the powerful back-and-forth of White and Black magic in the war devastated the area, including its aether, which allowed Diabolos to come through from the void in the first place- and it was also at that point the Elementals decided White Magic was being abused and sealed it, and the city, away, only allowing Padjal (and the player character, much later) to use White Magic. That might be a mix of some of her own headcanon though, she doesn't remember for sure, but it sounds pretty solid to me so I'm sharing it here. Take it with a grain of salt. But basically it sounds like a big, magical apocalypse event which led to the Sixth Umbral Era, and the Lost City of Amdapor is basically ground zero of the fallout. Sounsyy will probably roll by this thread eventually, or someone else with a more competent grasp on the lore than I have As for how survivable it is- something that really struck me about the dungeon, at least in the area where you first enter, is that it looks a whole lot like a scene at the beginning of Hayao Miyazaki's Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (at least the movie, I forget where the manga starts exactly, but the same scene I believe) where a village has been overtaken by the "Toxic Jungle", a forest of enormous fungus spreading across the world, inhabited by... you guessed it, giant insects. In Nausicaa, as long as you don't go too deep into the Jungle, you can survive the toxic spores by wearing what are essentially gas masks, so if you ever have an IC trek into Amdapor your characters could employ something similar to that. Breathing in the spores without a mask would result in hella hemorrhaging of the lungs and a painful death. Not sure if Amdapor's spores are that extreme, though. NPCs don't really mention it, so probably not, but if it'd make the RP more dramatic and exciting, hey.

I think everything about this shot turned out really cute!

Gosh, I feel lame reading these and thinking about how I came up with Shoshopu. Her premise was basically... I wanted a lalafell summoner. Because I was a tarutaru summoner in FFXI, but I didn't RP. I ran her through a character background generator (that's how she got four older brothers) and put a FFXIV lore spin on it, including how she became an arcanist (because she would become a summoner through RP). Then I picked a MBTI type for her and based her personality around that. I picked an extroverted type because my characters are usually introverts. Awyrbyrt is a funnier story. Arkamas mentioned once in passing that Fyrilsunn, in his youth, probably slept with his fair share of tavern wenches and could possibly have had a bastard or two. So I devised the most embarrassing/tragic son possible as more of a prank and then he became a character. And, as with Shopu, I just picked an MBTI type and ran with it. And like Shopu I picked an E type. Awyrbyrt's also practically my only male RP character I've ever had, and he's kind of a jock sort of guy, so he just ended up being a collection of unexplored territories for me wrapped up into one character. A lot of friends of mine have character concepts and personalities they carry through them from setting to setting, which they adapt to the lore (or adapt the lore to). I start out with lore concepts I want to play with and build characters around them, so every setting I play are new characters for me, that I don't take with me once I leave.

I made this crappy video today. You'll need to watch it in high quality at a high resolution to see her tiny lalafell mouth move at all (but believe me, I tried) but it was just meant to be a quick silly project anyway. If I'd had more time I would have found some more samples IHPZvzRXa5s Shopu would be voiced by Kristen Schaal. (gosh I hope this isn't too much of a necro, but it's relevant to the thread right?)

Buttons in a blanket like her mom used to make. And maybe some firewater like Fyrilsunn used to drink. I can't help but think in this situation they'd both already be dead somehow, themselves.

aaaAAA THESE ARE LOVELY +_+ Definitely interested in something whenever you open up again!! With new job comes new money to throw at artists... *rubs hands together*

I dunno, to me there's something dramatic and scary about just how brutal (and brutally short) the "proper knife fight" scenario is. If you wrote it right, it could still be a deadly dramatic grapple to keep your opponent from being able to grab at you well enough to stab, without all the dramatic dancy stuff. There's a place for both, it just depends on what sort of feel you're going for!

I don't know if this place has a name but it's the little bar just south of the aetheryte in Camp Drybone! It's pretty cozy and small, there's enough NPCs that it feels lived in, but all eight of the chairs are empty! No having to share your table with NPCs- even though there's only two tables. (The guy waving at me in the first picture and his friend were both actually RPing there! And before my queue popped there was a different group RPing there. It was cool to actually see people using it.)

If you're just mousing over Trachraet on the minimap, go actually talk to him. He can offer several quests at the same time and chances are if you mouse over his quest bubble on the minimap it'll display the wrong one. When I was doing Adder stuff on Awyrbyrt I was constantly forgetting that and wondering where the heckie the quests were.

I absolutely LOVE this stuff! Especially the sketches. The scantily clad Alderique and the lalafell marauder are my favorites, I can't decide which of the two I like better. Your style is really interesting- like, deceptively simple but at the same time really aesthetically pleasing. Rough, sketchy, super stylized... They remind me of some of Picasso's sketches and doodles, even also- it only just clicked in my head that you're Alderique's player, haha. When I bumped into you last night at the Runestone I was just thinking to myself, geez, what a charming and unique combination of features this Alderique guy has. Some faces you see in characters over and over again, maybe occasionally with a different nose or something, but I've never seen another elezen like Aldi. In my head your character design choices and your art style click together like perfectly and it's just making me smile a lot for some reason!! Seeing really unique styles like this is really inspiring to me because I never felt like I could quite grasp my own- everything I draw looks completely different from what I've drawn before, and it always takes me forever even to just do a doodle. I think that just means I need to draw a lot more, so... that's how I'm gonna spend my maintenance tonight, I think!! yikes this turned into a really gushy rant haha

Do mounts count as pets? Shoshopu's got an adamantoise that's big enough to ride. It's from her family's "herd" but right now it's staying with her free company in its chocobo stables. It's not that much taller than one and they have about the same diet... She also has a flowering mandragora that she accidentally planted and grew, but it usually just stays in her room. Being a planty thing it's a fairly low maintenance pet. She doesn't often bring it into public because she wouldn't want it to cause a scene... being a mandragora and all.

That isn't what he said, though. Well, that sucks and that was wrong of them to be angry at you, but I don't see anybody actually doing that in this thread. In fact, the people posting who say they're uncomfortable RPing these themes themselves have asserted several times that they're fine with other people RPing it and would politely ask others not to RP it with them if someone tried to. I fail to see why everyone's still being so defensive on this point in this thread. (Please don't read that in a condescending tone, I don't mean for it to be.) Nobody's arguing that the setting isn't flawed- at least as not as strongly as you're arguing it is. People have argued it's progressive in other aspects, like sexual freedoms, or that it's inaccurate to use progressive/conservative to describe the setting and try to relate it to our world, but I'm pretty sure nobody's arguing that it's without flaw or has no racism. The language people are using in this thread is honestly on the curt side, and there's a little bit of putting-words-into-peoples'-mouths going on, although I'm not inclined to point at specific people and examples for the sake of not instigating drama. (EDIT: The word "argument" was specifically used, and that is what I was referring to. That's part of why I posted in the first place.) Which is wrong. The setting has plenty of racism. If he'd said that the racism in the game's setting was not a main focus on the storyline, then he might have something, but to say it just doesn't have it is simply wrong. If somebody doesn't have knowledge of the setting, then maybe it's not best to come into a thread and say "X doesn't exist in the setting." That's a recipe for disaster. We've been over the subjective part multiple times and people seem to get it. It's completely alright to not be comfortable with mature or dark themes in RP. The objective part, that racism and prejudice between the races is prevalent in the setting, is the part that people seem to be having trouble with. "Very little" doesn't mean "none". He didn't say it doesn't exist. To me it seemed he was speaking in a relative sense. We all acknowledge it's there and it exists, but what we really seem to be disagreeing on is how relevant it should be to the individual player. And as you said- it's been pointed out multiple times. You probably don't need to point it out again to the guy who's just trying to share his perspective and how this RP relates to him and his feelings. edit: It's late and I feel things might be getting a bit off topic this point, and for that I apologize, so I personally am going to leave it. The point I'm trying to make is- this is a sensitive subject for many and I feel like perhaps the tone of the thread has gotten a bit smarmy, to the detriment of the discussion.

He's literally not saying it doesn't exist, though. He's just explaining his perspective and experiences as they relate to this sort of RP. He even said "from my point of view". That's not arguing. He's just saying they're lightly touched upon, relatively, compared to other themes- and I'm sure it seems especially so relative to his own life. (And argue about the IC/OOC separation stuff all you want, but there's a real human behind every RP character and their lives do effect their RP, even if the degree of it varies from person to person.) If you'd never played lancer you wouldn't be exposed to that plotline, for example. There's lots of ways you could miss it, the game honestly does gloss over it most of the time. It's mentioned, it exists, but it's not in your face or directed towards you most of the time. edit: Sorry to come off like the tone police, I just feel like this thread (not you specifically) is coming off as overly argumentative, bordering on being a little hostile, on this particularly sensitive subject. It's very subjective and personal to a lot of people, and that too needs to be acknowledged just as much as the oft-stated fact racism exists in this setting. Which it does, and I don't think anybody's really trying to argue about it at this point.

I made the mistake of queuing as a healer for my high level roulette the other day and had to deal with probably the worst healing experience I'd ever had, in a Lost City of Amdapor. Initially the tank pulled WAY too many enemies, like the first three pulls all at once, and our DPS were a ninja and a dragoon- not exactly the bastion of AoE DPS that could warrant such enormous pulls. They were also just barely geared enough to get in. The DPS both kept standing in all the AoEs, too. Then when we got to Diabolos the tank suggested we burn the boss and ignore the mechanics. I was like ... what? He thought we could take "at least three" of Diabolos's big attack that you're supposed to avoid with the matching doors. I was like "We might, but I don't think the DPS can". He insisted he'd never done the boss with the mechanics and so they ignored the mechanics. Afterwards he was like "What went wrong" and I pointed out our DPS were mostly in whites and didn't even have level 50 weapons and he was like "oh I didn't even look" ??? I asked the tank if he'd just never run this dungeon with anything but 130+ people, since he said he'd never done this boss following the mechanics, and he was like "basically" The previous time I ran a Lost City, weeks before- again, for the roulette- we had two people new to the dungeon and the tank just ran RIGHT INTO Diabolos without explaining the mechanics, or giving me time to. Didn't even do a ready check. We wiped and I gave him a piece of my mind. I haven't queued as a healer for any of my roulettes since then. u_U; Something about Lost City... I love the dungeon itself but I always have a bad time in it if I'm not running it with friends.