The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales

[Telluride]

 

(snip)

 

I'm okay for new tanks. But at least have SOME balls. And even with these tiny pulls, with i120ish, and with a competent healer and DPS, he STILL couldn't hold my aggro. Quelling Strikes up, no buffs.

 

I asked at the end if this was his first run or his first run as a tank. No. No it was not.

 

But speaking as someone who hasn't tanked post-50 yet, would you be madder at this tank, or the one who pulled everything, did hold aggro, but still couldn't endure that much damage at once, and then kept trying to do the same thing three times in a row with the same party-wipe result?

 

I suppose I'd rather have a slow and cautious tank than one who wanted to fight the Crazy 88s with a hobbit wielding a spork.

[Emberhair]

Dear Mr Black Mage with full augmented ironworks gear, 

 

You seem to know the bard class well. You know I have a ballad that restores MP, bravo! Very useful for casters, I assure you. But did you know Mr Black Mage, that your ice stance rapidly restores your MP to maximum? In fact, it does it a whole lot faster than my mp song ever could! But of course, you know this. I mean, just look at your level! Look at your gear! 

 

So why, Mr Black Mage, have you spent this entire dungeon shouting at me to use my mp song when your mp is zero? Why have you complained that my mp regen is too slow, a mechanic completely out of my control? Why, Mr Black Mage, do you refuse to use your ice stance when the whole party is telling you to and instead opt for whacking the enemy with your stick and complaining when you cannot do a fire spell? Why, Mr Black Mage, have you demanded I owe you "Ethers 4 dis sht!" ????

 

For once in my life, Mr Black Mage, I REALLY hope you are a troll and you have posted your antics onto YouTube for the world to see. Because if you are not a troll, but in fact a genuine player with full augmented ironworks at level 50, the only question I pose to you is this one: "................how....?" 

 

Kind Regards, 

 

Spoony Bard

[Kellach Woods]

BLM = Foe Requiem anyway.

[Kage]

Hello tank with almost 10k HP but would lose hate because of Sword Oath and pulling mobs away from where everyone in the entire duty center pulls them to.

 

I didn't comment on your standing in fire. I just decided that if you had enough health to not care about it, I did not care either.

 

But when you berate the DD for not Limit Breaking Midgardsomr after the 1st add, you're also revealing you being dumb ass shit. I had to ask you to move the add away from the boss because you were giving it the "Damage Reduced" buff. But I didn't really comment because you were POINTING THE MOBS AT THE PARTY THE WHOLE TIME. Even when i horribly typed it out while trying to keep the party alive. You kept pointing the mob at us. You moved the 2nd add AWAY from the boss and I said "move closer buffing him" while dealing with the fact that we were all getting sprayed because you do not know how to tank and spank. Then we died because we kept getting interrupted trying to activate the machine. Because you were trying to kill us.

 

Then you have the gall to say it was taking too long. When you buffed the mobs to take reduced damage. When you pointed it out, you then made it easier for me to instead of just kicking you, report you too. You demanded that we vote kick you and would not leave. You didn't want the penalty. I told you, and you laughed.

 

I hope you have a fun time with your small time of suspension.

[21:05][GM]Gm Axafidonx >> You're welcome. We don't like players abusing the vote kick feature just to avoid the penalty. That's not why the system is in place.

[21:05][GM]Gm Axafidonx >> And trying to kill the group with monsters is just plain mean.

 

By the way, no wonder you hate Keeper of the Lake because you suck at tank and spank bosses and point them in the wrong directions (LIKE AT CERULEUM TANKS)

[Asmodean]

Syrcus Tower.... Why is it only here I get people telling me to use Defiance despite the fact I'm at least 20 if not 30 Ilevel below the tank who is main tanking.  

 

Yes I am a warrior and I know my job well. Surprise, surprise.... it seem even run I had done for the past two day at least one dps seems to think I'm boarder line brain dead. I feel sad knowing Warrior are getting a real DPS stance cause these dps player are going to keep yelling at a warrior to use Defiance when it's not needed.

 

Sigh... I'm a 50 Warrior with a Conquerer  and a mix of LotA, ST and WoD gear. For the love a god do your job and stop complaining about a tank not in tank stance when not needed.:frustrated::frustrated::frustrated:

[BroodingFicus]

Dear lvl 30 something Bard I might have 'forgotten' to heal in Copperbell, 

 

You deserved it. The tank asked you nicely to stop using sprint to run ahead and pull mobs. /I/ warned you after you ran into the first boss room and started the lock down timer while everyone else was still halfway down the tunnel. We should have let the spriggans eat you. We didn't but you continued to use sprint and run away before mobs were dead so that you could pull ahead of the tank. I forgot to heal you and they commended me for it. I hope there are many more forgetful healers in your future.

[mongi291]

Syrcus Tower.... Why is it only here I get people telling me to use Defiance despite the fact I'm at least 20 if not 30 Ilevel below the tank who is main tanking.  

 

Yes I am a warrior and I know my job well. Surprise, surprise.... it seem even run I had done for the past two day at least one dps seems to think I'm boarder line brain dead. I feel sad knowing Warrior are getting a real DPS stance cause these dps player are going to keep yelling at a warrior to use Defiance when it's not needed.

 

Sigh... I'm a 50 Warrior with a Conquerer  and a mix of LotA, ST and WoD gear. For the love a god do your job and stop complaining about a tank not in tank stance when not needed.:frustrated::frustrated::frustrated:

Oh yeah I hate when this happens. I only have tanks leveled, so I only play WAR and PLD, but when I know that I'm overgeared/the boss doesn't have an aggro table/the boss is going to be "stunned" for a while, I switch Defiance off/use Sword Oath and try to deal as much damage as possible. I rarely ever got called out on that, though.

[ShoggMommy]

Had this exact thing happen last night. WHM would wait until the tank was around 10% before actually healing, spending the rest of the fight trying to add to the damage. I'm not entirely sure where this mentality is coming from? They claimed that they were saving us SO much time with it, but in reality, the tank just had to work around their bullshit to make sure the didn't end up biting it.

 

This actually spawned into a huge thing in the MIDDLE of a dungeon. They figured they might as well "prove a point" by just spam casting cure 1 over and over again, because they were asked several time to step of their healing. They took every hit on the chin. Didn't heal the rest of the party. Claimed this is what everyone wanted.

 

They were ultimately booted for wasting 20 more minutes by purposely wiping the party and arguing mid combat.

 

...And to add to that, this was in a level 35 dungeon.

 

:roll:

 

That royally sucks. I don't understand where it comes from either. I'm still scratching my head on it.

 

 

Aaaannnd unrelated I've got a new one! This time on tanking.

 

Dear obnoxious THM with equally obnoxious 'god-tier' name,

 

As a new tin-can tank, in which I informed you upon entering Copperbell, I do not appreciate the fact that you purposefully try to rip the hate off of me in an attempt to force me to work 10x harder and possibly getting my other members killed. Not only does it endanger the rest of the group, me spamming flash five times in a row and utilizing shield lob countless times- frankly sucks because you want to run your MP into the ground...

 

Further; you refused to attack the bombs and would target everything you aren't supposed to even though it was informed to kill bombs first. And when you did target the bombs you again attempted to rip hate to troll people. Finally when you do realize the bomb is getting to blow you train it away from the tank and then get the healer wiped as well as the tank.

 

You then raegquit when we're near the final boss after getting two members blown up. Note, we had no problems with any of the bosses, and everything aside from your asshattery, had everything running very clean and quick.

 

Enjoy your re-queue DPS.

 

Sincerely,

 

-Tin-can Foxberry-tank

[Kellach Woods]

Syrcus Tower.... Why is it only here I get people telling me to use Defiance despite the fact I'm at least 20 if not 30 Ilevel below the tank who is main tanking.  

 

Yes I am a warrior and I know my job well. Surprise, surprise.... it seem even run I had done for the past two day at least one dps seems to think I'm boarder line brain dead. I feel sad knowing Warrior are getting a real DPS stance cause these dps player are going to keep yelling at a warrior to use Defiance when it's not needed.

 

Sigh... I'm a 50 Warrior with a Conquerer  and a mix of LotA, ST and WoD gear. For the love a god do your job and stop complaining about a tank not in tank stance when not needed.:frustrated::frustrated::frustrated:

 

that's probably my fault.

 

I tended to run with Defiance on in these instances just in case the other tanks aren't up to snuff (or their healers aren't) so I can more smoothly transition to the tank role if needed.

 

(also I'll often let people with less ilevel main tank so they can get the experience)

[Addison]

I've had generally good luck with PUGs but the last two I had made my eyes roll.

 

Had a player yell at me for CCing. He said my job isn't to CC but to heal. Said if he saw me casting anything but Cure, I'd be kicked.

 

And no. No one was dying because I was casting repose on adds instead if curing. In fact, it was a flawless run.

 

I continued to Repose anyway.

 

I might be new to the game, but I'm not a complete idiot. Thanks.

 

Signed,

An 8 year FFXI WHM veteran

[Ilwe'ran]

So this is now the new sort of things you can meet in dungeon : A guy who dual account to log a healer + his character in order to tag faster. They let the healer (a SCH, without fairy) AFK at the entrance at the dungeon and say proudly in chat that yes they are dual accounting to skip the queue. What's wrong with you people !

[Kage]

Last night, I had a tank and his 2-member fc bard friend come into expert Keeper. No Oath use. No flash. The ninja and bard and myself kept getting aggro. When I asked for shield oath I got some strange jibberish of English? [Please tell me what " I time too levent" means.] His bard buddy would say "shield oath is for scrubs bruh" At that point I said "heals are for scrubs" and decided I'd just focus on the nin and myself. I'm too nice to not purposely wipe over and over by letting people die easily or else i would have done so. The one Oath seen was Sword and he still lost aggro to let the others take damage. We manage to finish the last boss with him and the bard deciding to dick around still (pointing the adds at party, taking damage willy nilly, turning to hit non-tank, etc). At this point my priority for healing, as I decided to be an ass back at two asses, were myself and the ninja (who had also asked for shield oath because the ninja was usually getting hit all the time as the PLD would lose hate). As the tank and BRD were happy to take damage by standing in things I decided that if they died I didn't give much fucks. The bard told his friend "im gonna play healer next time -tank- >.>" getting a reply "swell".

 

The ninja left saying "pretty sure you should play tank"

 

At some point I was thinking shield oath is for scrubs like you cause i'm carrying you bruh.

[ProvaDiServo]

Dear cowardly tank, in 120 gear

 

Please man the fuck up in A k hM and pull all the way to the foxglove, I know you were mad that I was grabbing it and bringing it to the group but...

Don't no body have time dodging poison templates, as it is a huge time waster, and it limits mobility. Why make party suffer when you can just push up and stop him from hurling sludge?

 

Fuck how you feel, this is duty finder. And it aint your first rodeo.

[Dravus]

Castrum Meridianum shouldn't be terribly difficult at this point but as a fresh level 50 tank I can't be expected to do everything. I didn't die, thankfully, but it didn't help that the off-tank (who had way more health than I did) just stood there and refused to tank any of the adds.

 

I would have been happy to let him main tank but he never responded or made a move to pull anything so I took the initiative...

[Swashbuckler]

Dear WHM marked #2 in Ramuh Extreme.

 

It would be very helpful if you would, you know, broke people out of Chaos instead of just standing around. It is OKAY to move. I understand wanting to heal whomever is MT'ing. I get it. Just PLEASE break people out of Chaos when #1 is actually chaos'd or when they aren't targeted for Thunderstorm.

[mongi291]

Castrum Meridianum shouldn't be terribly difficult at this point but as a fresh level 50 tank I can't be expected to do everything. I didn't die, thankfully, but it didn't help that the off-tank (who had way more health than I did) just stood there and refused to tank any of the adds.

 

I would have been happy to let him main tank but he never responded or made a move to pull anything so I took the initiative...

"Why aren't you keeping aggro?!"

Said the full ilvl 130 Black Mage to his fellow ilvl47 or so Paladin tank.

[Ha'uruh Nunh]

What is it with Keeper of the Lake and incompetency?  My last few runs have been dogshit.  It's not THAT hard of an encounter, folks.

 

Kage's stories up there about repeated fail in Keeper are confirming to me that there's something in the (lake)water that's causing massive amounts of derp.

[Chris Ganale]

Dear petulant WHM in Keeper with a stupid name,

 

I'm not entirely sure what you meant by "ADDDS dps", but given the ignorance you displayed after Einhander, I think you wanted me and the bard to kill the fuel tanks? You can't fucking do that, you ignorant twit, all you can do is knock them away from the boss, which I was doing, which any member of the party can do, and in which your sorry ass certainly wasn't. And then you vote dismiss on the grounds of offline both the bard and me? Bitch you're lucky I wasn't faster to get to the vote dismiss option once you kicked the bard, you and your cuntflap tank. Though I doubt anything will come of it, I hope a GM eats your ass for being a petulant twit.

 

Signed,

The Timesnatcher

 

 

Addendum: Indeed, there must be something in the water.

[Viola]

Alright guys (and girls), I'm going to show a side of me that I've been trying to shake off (as in; I'm trying to change to be a much better person, but sometimes my old habits come back really hard) and I kinda didn't want it to be seen here, but too late now.

 

Basically, I'm appalled at the FF14 community over something stupid. Something so insignificant that it shouldn't be a problem.

 

As everyone knows; there was a popularity poll that had everyone wanting Viera to be the next race, obviously being the highest in popularity.

 

Then when Au Ra come in instead, people are "We don't want another human-like race"

 

...Why the hell do you want the fetish race then if you don't want something that looks human?

 

It makes no sense, it hurts my brain, and I'm looking really immature right now showing my (old) colors.

 

(basically, if you got something that peeved you for no reason, or feel like it's not a great reason but need to vent, post here)

[Kellach Woods]

...can i vent that you ignored the other vent thread?

[Dat Oni]

I suppose it's only fitting I, someone who also made a failed vent thread, redirect you to the now firmly established Vent Tent.

 

You may voice your concerns there, but please, make note of the rules and try to keep your frustration, however understandable, under control.

 

:love:

[Kellach Woods]

Uh, Chris.

 

That's not a threat.

 

Listen to this PSA by esteemed wordsmith Trick Daddy.

 

eZxQ9ihUDi8

[Viola]

...can i vent that you ignored the other vent thread?

...I thought that was only for PUGs and whatnot?

[ShoggMommy]

...can i vent that you ignored the other vent thread?

...I thought that was only for PUGs and whatnot?

 

Nah this is the title: THE VENT TENT - POOR PUGS AND OTHER TERRIBLE TALES

I'm sure mods can just merge this.

[Unnamed Mercenary]

For not-game-related things, there's the rant thread here as well.