Virella

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Hello and welcome! You will find every sort of roleplayer here, ones who stick closely to lore, and people who take a bit more liberties. There is everything to be found for everyone really. Generally people just bow out respectfully if they do not agree, and that is about it. Nothing to be worried about Hope you will enjoy your stay

The first one has more attitude I think (what I like on roes!), so I would roll with that!

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*waves* Virella is happy enough to make new friends; however she is sort of stuck in Ishgard currently, but she may head down to Limsa/Mist soon enough! I have absolutely no idea what they would have in common, but it is easy enough to bump into one another IC someday if you are up for it

Was a toss up picking between AST and THM for me, however Virella does both! Admittedly her THM is a lot better in terms of magic use, yet her work is being an Ishgardian AST at this point So ehm, yeah, AST it is!

Huraay for more people roleplaying one of the unappreciated race; we can always use more like you around! Welcome to the RPC & to Balmung, hope your stay will be a pleasant one.

Well that Dragonspeak article got released before Heavensward came out; so I imagine he is very much aware with what direction he is taking the story in terms of dragons speaking with mortals? Edit: Questions, questions; and they are probably, maybe, hopefully, are going to be answered sometime! I am probably putting too much thought into it as this point, and it just due that one little mistake the Ishgardians made they have this connection with dragons and understanding them, if Dravanian seduction is indeed having dragons talk to you in their native tongue. Unless they all do it translated, that is an option as well! Guess we got to wait and see By the way, really enjoying the discussion so far!

Interesting Topic! However I got the bring a few things up for speculation, although I am going to spoiler this just in case;

Oooh, I like that idea of materia being used like that! That said, I have no idea how my character would be capable of bumping into yours, unless he is up in Ishgard currently. As well how common knowledge would his materia business would be? Not that I can see my character making use of it, but I would think she would love to pry into it if given the chance. In any case, drop me a message, or a pm ingame if you are up for some roleplay, I am sure we can figure something out! (worst case scenario, I can drag Virella out of Ishgard for a day if you cannot reach the place OOCly yet, or your character has no interest in going there!)

Welcome to Balmung, you are probably enjoying your stay here already so I wish for you to continue to have it be such in the future as well !

Binding themselves to the celestial bodies, who in turn are connected with Hydaelyn. Like a big Aetheryte. (That said, I find it strange that this healing is allowed, because it seems to drain from Hydaelyn and not from one's own aether, because why else would you have to attune to them eh? But that is a discussion for another thread I'd imagine;)) As of now you either had to have your character been in Sharlayan to be thought, dig into Astrologian him/herself, and recent questline for Astrologian shows off that the Ishgardians are just starting to pick up teaching the Sharlayan way to themselves (honestly, being the person who likes to drag out roleplay, the storylines goes on for a few moons as the questtext says, so being an awesomely taught pew pew healing beast is probably out of the question if you go for the Ishgardians teaching you!) That said, there are plenty of alternatives for healers, and they all have their merits for roleplay. In any case, may you or your friend ever decide to go to the Astrologian route instead for healing, you can always poke me ingame or over the RPC for advice, and heck, even roleplay. And for good measure, if you happen to be interested, or your friend, I wrote up the Astrologian summary down on the RPC as well. Linky! (fair warning, filled with spoilers) I hope that was not too offtopic for this, but I could not help to pitch in on the Astrologian part!

*flops* I would always welcome more roleplay with more people, especially Ishgardians. So if you are happy enough to roleplay with an Ishgardian elezen, give me a shout ingame, or toss me a message over the forums I'm sure we can work something out!

Checking your privilege just does not work in Eorzea. It does not have privileges in the way the real world has; every tribe, society, nation considers x to be something privileged, or not. Heck in your previous questions, I had a laughing fit over "is English take your native language? Take a step back." & "If you are not American, take a step back." due to being Dutch. Privileges in real life are still very relative. If you wanted to do this in a way it would work, you would have to do it for every nation and society. But I am very much on the bandwagon as well this will lead to nothing in the end.

Uuuh. These questions seem really out of place for Eorzea though. I'm just saying! Might want to adjust some things. Not to mention, some of the questions really do not seem to hold any validation here in Eorzea. Besides that, being the oh so woefully privileged in Ul'dah is probably far from what it in Limsa ect. * If you were born in the United States, take one step forward. <-----

Thank you all so far the new lore titbits you've given us. Keep them coming guys!

Who knows, who knows! They did promise new emotes, so well, this may be one of them!

Happy to have you here Maariya!

[align=center] Astrologian Lore Summary[/align] [align=center] [/align] History Questline Soulstone Attire Planisphere The Constellations Gate Unlocking Lore Behind Spells Additional Lore Sources [align=center]History[/align] Founded in Sharlayan thousand of years ago, spread trough Eorzea when they settled in the Dravanian Hinterlands. Three-hundred years ago Adaunel the Younger convinced the Holy See to use astrology to defend themselves from the Dravanian Horde. The first Observatorium can be found in Coerthas, name conveniently The First Dicasterial Observatorium of Aetherial and Astrological Phenomena. The Athenaeum Astrologicum in Ishgard was founded by Saint Guenriol. [align=center] Questline[/align] [align=center] Soulstone[/align] Your soulstone is given by Mace, the elderly grandfather of Leveva. He saw the WoL in a vision long before travelling to Eorzea. However it is given after you've done your first job quest at 30. This implies that the soulstone is not needed, and merely an aid as most Soulstones tend to be. [align=center] Attire[/align] The attire you see on Leveva, Mace and Severstre is the job's gear. The one and only Sharlayan made outfit. Jannequinard however does wear the arm pieces of it, but still has an Ishgardian styled robe on over a Sharlayan one, and this doesn't change after the AST Questline has finished. The other Ishgardian NPCs continue to wear parts of the Astrologian job gear as well, before and after the HW quests. It appears to be possible to get your hands onto a set if you so desired to do such, most likely. By what means? Twelve strike me down for I do not know. Sadly enough the three job questline does not explain how and what the purpose is behind the outfit, or how you can get your hands onto one. All I can state for certain that it is something Sharlayan made. [align=center] Planisphere [/align] The star globe is described as your sword and shield both, for it both grands you strength and protection. But most importantly it allows you to see the current stance of the stars into the heavens, allowing you to channel the aether into whatever spell you desire to cast. Your star globe can be made out of various material. Electrum, Mythril, Cobalt, Mythrithe, Hardsliver. The latter however seems to be 'favoured' one to be produced in Ishgard judging from the leve surrounding it. However the vendor does sell various other options. Whether to take this as lore of just a vendor placed there for player convenience? Probably the last option. That said another leve points out that the Blacksmiths in Ishgard aren't exactly keen onto forging the star globe in question, but do it anyhow due to the amount of coin offered. [align=center]The Constellations[/align] [align=center]Card Art[/align] The Bole: The gate to the first heaven, the heaven who holds the World Tree. Planted by the Matron (Nophica) and Nurtured by the Keeper (Althyk), the World Tree is the source from which all life is said to have sprung. The trunk of the World Tree, or the Bole, protects the weak, defending them from harm. Stars: Bright yellow The Balance: The Balance represents the heaven of fire, a realm made prosperous by the blessing of the Traders (Nald'thal), but at the same time, one whose equilibrium is maintained by the divine judgment of Azeyma, the Warden. Azeyma's might will empower those who would take up their blades and mete divine punishment in the name of the sun goddess. Stars: Red The Spire: In the third heaven rises an iron tower of spinning gears and taut springs constructed by the Builder (Byregot) himself. It is assailed without cease by the jealous Destroyer (Rhalgr), but the Destroyer's mighty levinbolts only server to power the spire's clockwork soul. It is through the blessings of both creation and destruction that strength is granted to she who sees her stars rise under this sign. Stars: Purple The Arrow: The fourth heaven, or the heaven of wind, was created atop a lofty peak by the Wanderer (Oschon), who's footsteps had been guided by the Navigator (Llymlaen). The wind that blows off Llymlaen's seas guides the arrow fast and true, and so shall deliver the weary souls of those trapped in the mire of confusion, indecision, and over-contemplation. Stars: Green The Ewer: It is said through the fifth heaven flows a mighty river carrying the water spilled forth from the Scholar's (Thaliak) vessel. In that water is the knowledge of all that have come before and all who will follow,the Aether spun from the Spinner's (Nymeia) loom, the aether from which all magicks are drawn and to which all magicks return. Stars: Light blue The Spear: The Spear is the gate to the sixth heaven, where the Fury (Halone) resides in a palace of ice carved by her own spear, ice formed of moonbeams collected by the Lover (Menphina). The spear fills us not only with the power to overcome our enemies, but also the compassion that is necessary to grant those same enemies mercy. Stars: White (Ishgardians may also call this the Halls of Halone. Take it with a grain of salt) [align=center] Gate Unlocking[/align] Gate unlocking is a part of being an Astrologian as well. Far from the monk way of kicking people down in the dirt in the hope of opening them, or dedicated meditation. Astrologians gate unlocking appears a lot more simple. That said it is unlocking these gates is rather a portal to the soul; much like attuning to an aetheryte but on a larger scale level; connecting yourself with the celestial bodies. Unlocking these gates appears having to wait on the moment they reach the highest and brightest point, when they flow of aether is the strongest in relation to Hydaelyn. What seems to be required is to observe the stars closely, and hope the powers of these celestial bodies flow trough you, thus unlocking the gate. It appears to be, as stated in the quests, really a mind related thing to do this. [align=center] Lore Behind Spells[/align] Diurnal Sect exists out of the sun and the diurnal stars represent the self, the active and expression. Nocturnal Sect exists out of the celestial bodies ruled by the two moons; stands for the unconscious and the passive. Dalamund stands for the uncontrollable, even after it's disappearance. Gravity is taking the gravity of a situation, turning it into harm so one may heal in the future. Royal Road is is drawing onto the power of the stars of whichever card represents it. It can be treacherous, perilous but it can lead men and women to greatness. Spread is all about patience, keeping the card locked away from when you need it most; one cannot influence which card is drawn, however one can influence when it is read. Shuffle is about glimpsing into the heavens for the future, however the stars will be out of place, not knowing what will happen next when you draw another card. You are not ignoring or denying a future from happening, merely postponing it. Synastry temporary entwines the fate of people. Time Dilation is diverting the straight flow of aether from the celestial bodies, given the impression of time going slower and increasing the duration of beneficial magicks. Collective Unconsciousness is feeling connected to one another, a link made from aether who allows you to feel their pain, their joy ect. It shapes itself when one feels a close, binding one with the other on an emotional level. Celestial Stasis is an ancient astromancy spell, denied to exists by the Sharlayans. It halts the heavens completely, thus stopping time for the spells duration. [align=center] Additional Lore[/align] [align=center](All the other lore titbits found in the quests)[/align] Astrologians who teach are addressed as Professor, but the Ishgardians seem keen onto continuing to call them Lord/Lady. Also people on Eorzea are stupid and believe the world is flat. Little Ala Mhigo and Ishgard are compared by Leveva to be equally as stupid due to their continuous strife in one way or the other. One fights for a war they do not understand any longer, the other has fallen from grace. She claims that both nations have accepted a fate of suffering, and turned away from the stars while in her opinion, they should be reaching out for them. It points out that Astrologians, and the Sharlayans, accept to their dismay that sometimes empowering the poor, the downtrodden is not to way to go, for they may overthrow those who who stand above them. As Leveva said, who holds the most power in the end are not that willing to share it due to this. Seeing vision in the stars appears to happen as well. Astrologians appear to be alien to Limsa, despite its diversity. The Forum appears to be the judging system of Sharlayan, possibly government as well. Glamours confirmed once more to race/appearance change. "Whores and rainbows" is a saying in Ishgard (lol). Sharlayans find the Isghardians barbarians and savages. The Studium appears to be the Sharlayan school. Aurum Vale holds a lot of gold. Sharlayans think the Eorzeans are unworthy due to their constant slaughter of one another, finding that their knowledge is wasted upon them. After finishing up your Astrologian quest at 60, the NPCs in and around the Athenaeum do not speak overly ill any more of Sharlayan magic. Some do not seem excited at all, others seek to embrace it. Low-born and nobles both have been flocking to the Athenaeum to be taught Sharlayan astromancy. The Holy See allows it now due to its popularity, and that way gaining somewhat control over it. Thaumaturgy and conjury have been around in Ishgard for ages. New celestial maps are being drawn up due to Sharlayan astromancy being a part of Ishgard as well now, much to the dismay of the Ishgardian astrologers put to the task. [align=center]Sources[/align] 50 AST Quest: What's Your Sign 50 AST Quest: Stairway To The Heavens 30 AST Quest: Fortune Favors The Bole 35 AST Quest: Hanging In The Balance 40 AST Quest: A Lesson In Patience 40 AST Quest: Slings And Arrows 45 AST Quest: Ewer Right 50 AST Quest: Love By The Sun 50 AST Quest: Spearheading Intiatives 50 AST Quest: Sharlayan Ascending 52 AST Quest: Empty Nest 54 AST Quest: Conviction 56 AST Quest: Feather In The Cap 58 AST Quest: Trumped 60 AST Quest: The Hands Of Fate Sightseeing Log: The Observatorium. History information. Jannequinard Wiki Entry: Wiki tends to be filled with headcanons as well. Keep this in mind. Forelmort Wiki Entry: Wiki tends to be filled with headcanons as well. Keep this in mind. The Fault In Our Cards: Fortune Telling lore ish stuff. Halls of Halone Lore Starglobe Leve: Material Starglobe Leve

@ Sounssy, what you are saying is correct, however I am of the opinion that tanks who are absolutely clueless on tanking, and do not do end game, theory crafting, lacking the skill, ought to just go for VIT because the STR stats will not be utilized in any case. And after levelling AST, and now my SMN/SCH secondly, tanks who have no idea what they are doing, standing in the aoe, not dodging, not using CDs; eh, give me a clueless tank with VIT over STR any day.

Tanks, who are obviously not skilled at tanking, especially while levelling, should not run with DPS trinkets. Just do not. If you ain't having the gear & skill to run those things, make your healer's life easier, and run vit stuff. Mostly because it allows me to make up for your shitty dps, because those trinkets ain't going to help you son. Honestly, a 200 dps pally with strength trinkets, that is just plain out bad, while I can see other tanks going up to the 400-500 easily in vit gear.

I do not think anyone cares about your character's level OOC. Granted it is easier to get a +50 character if you plan to join into the Ishgard roleplay, but that is completely up to you ! You can always level another char up after all! No one is going to berate you if you are levelling over roleplaying; a lot of people are doing it currently. It is mostly you alone who has to pick between whether you feel like levelling or roleplaying, no on else!